Talk:List of HTML editors

List of HTML editors
This page has a nomenclature problem. A WYSIWYG page layout or site design program is not, technically, an "HTML editor" since that class of software is generally incapable of actually editing existing HTML code (it can generate HTML by exporting a proprietary format to HTML format, but generally can't open and edit an existing document). While HTML can be edited with any plain text editor, text editors are not really HTML editors since they lack tools specifically geared toward the handling of code (although there are notable exceptions). Word processors are also not HTML editors, often having more in common with WYSIWYG products. So...either this list should be pared down extensively, or we need to question its purpose and value. What is the purpose of this list, and is it worth keeping? Or should it be retitled? Canonblack 22:27, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Added HotDog (note the capitalisation) to the Text/HTML editors section. At some time I'll flesh out the stub with some details. Wont be too hard used to work on it. --goon 10:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Combined: all the Composer derivitives in 1 or 2 lines. I understand that the full-time developer for NVU has changed jobs, that the code has been released to an active open source community, but that it's now required to have another name again which is Kompozer. I'm no exepert but it looks like Seamonkey Composer is still going.

could soneone make a table of


 * .1 General information
 * .2 Operating system support
 * .3 Editor features
 * .4 Web technology support
 * .5 Image format support

jsut a suggestion 23:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The point of the list, I believe, is to list the articles about relevant software that exist within Wikipedia. The comparison you are asking for would be a "Comparison" article such as has already been proposed within the HTML editors article.  It would not be this article, which serves a different purpose. Canonblack 21:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I guess is that the typical reader has something to write or edit a web page about; that's their interest. They might need warning about the editors that write bad code or make it hard to continue the learning curve, just as they might be interested in ones that have good templates or good instructions. If anyone has the patience to write a comparison table I'm happy to let them have an Adobe Pagemill 3 for WindowsVeganline 09:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Categorization
Can someone explain the difference between "basic" and "source code" text editors? How does it come that Emacs is categorized as a basic text editor while Eclipse (and even Notepad++) is categorized as "source code" editors? --Nopedia (talk) 09:47, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

With articles?
The para at the top of the list says this is a list of editors "with articles", yet about half of the entries are redlined. Should the redline entries be removed, or should the para be rewritten? [EDIT] I'm just going to remove them, and if that's a bad thing, we can revert the change. [EDIT] I've also removed the section, "Web-based editors", because all of the links therein were redlined. Canonblack 21:34, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * These changes are very drastic and I don't like them myself. The page should really be a full list of HTML editors and quite a few have been added in recent weeks. A red-lined link should prompt somebody to write an article about it, it should not be deleted just because of that. As it happens the HTML editors page is so limited in its scope and biased towards just a few editors (all WYSIWYG) so is not a replacement. Such a change should certainly have been done through the normal Wikipedia discussion process, not just foisted on us like this. And Canonblack are you the same chap as 12.22.250.4 who actually did most of the changes? Dsergeant 06:22, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You are completely missing my point. The opening paragraph states that this is a list of editors with articles in Wikipedia; if there is an editor in the list that is a redlink, then it doesn't have an article in Wikipedia.  Therefore, it should be removed.  I didn't create the list.  If it's the consensus that this should be a list of all editors that exist or have ever existed, then why does the opening paragraph state that this is a list of editors with articles in Wikipedia?  I note that someone (probably you) has gone in and replaced several of the redlinked editors.  As for "foisting" anything on you, I was making a bold change as invited by the Wikipedia user guidelines in accordance with making the list fall into what appeared to be its stated purpose.  If you disagree, then revert the edits.  I did offer the idea openly as you can plainly see above. I didn't "foist" anything on anyone.  And the HTML Editors article isn't meant to be a replacement for this.  This list is meant to augment that article, and its content was broken off from it to shorten the original article's length.  Canonblack 19:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No I had not misunderstood your point. But I would suggest that instead of removing all the redlinked articles you changed the opening paragraph to remove 'with articles in Wikipedia'. It SHOULD be a fairly comprehensive list of HTML editors and those without current WP articles should have them added later, just like everything else on WK works. No it wasn't me who added those extra ones, the ones I added recently already had articles or I wrote them myself so they were already blue links. I am surprised nobody else has commented on this drastic change.Dsergeant 06:38, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


 * agreeVeganline 09:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)


 * So do I. The problem isn't the red links; the problem is the premise. Why should HTML editors that do not (yet) have an own article be excluded?? Whom should help that?? It is regrettable that these articles are not (yet) available; but it is a bit of useful information just to know the names: because then you can use a search machine for the names instead of working through tons of useless links you get by searching for "html editor". - Or is it meant for the "reputation" of the WP? That there must not be any hint in this side that the WP is not complete? The WP IS NOT complete (it will NEVER be complete, and any clearminded human being is aware of it; just fools rant about it) - so why pretend??  Why should people be held ignorant for the sake of a stupid claim? I cannot see any good in this restriction - just delete it! Yog-S 149.225.66.3 (talk) 22:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

hasn't nvu been discontinued?
I thought it had....--TiagoTiago 19:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Officially not, though there has been no development for around 2 years. KompoZer is an interim bug release version and is certainly current. But being discontinued is no reason to remove it from WP. Dsergeant 07:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:TopStyle Logo.png
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BetacommandBot (talk) 15:51, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:EditPlus Screenshot.png
Image:EditPlus Screenshot.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

certain Mac editors?
Which of the article's categories do these shareware editors for Mac fall into?:


 * RAGE WebDesign
 * Goldfish for Mac

Thank you.Dogru144 (talk) 01:22, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

FLwriter
What about FLwriter? It is a REAL compact basic Linux word processor based on HTML files. AFAIK its file is less than 700 kB size; so it is essential for small distris (Abiword is several times its size) In fact, Damn Small Linux had it on version 2.0 or 2.1. But it does not seems to be in development any longer. See http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_8495.html. Or http://www.tucows.com/preview/221783. 149.225.64.31 (talk) 06:12, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Create first an article and then you are allowed to add the editor to this list. As long no article exists, the entry will be removed again from this list. mabdul 06:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Quanta Plus
This fine piece of software is (alas) discontinued, it doesn't work in current KDE environments. Any alternatives in sight as for Linux systems (apart from NVU)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.8.42.80 (talk) 13:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

hallo.js
Hallo is a simple web editor based on the contenteditable technology available with HTML5. Instead of toolbars, web content can be edited directly.

Hallo.js is free software developed by Henri Bergius for the IKS Project and co-funded by the European Union

http://hallojs.org/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.206.114.250 (talk) 21:38, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

HTMLPen.com
I use HTMLPen for my basic designs and testing. It has editor and instant previews and code completion. It is free and very helpful. I think it can be added. Thanks.

Which "Web++" is this list referring to?
Probably not this one, it appears to be just a blog: http://www.web-plus-plus.com/

Maybe these, but embedded C++ interpretors are not editors: https://konteck.github.io/wpp/ https://www.openhub.net/p/w

And let's not confuse it with the implmentation, design, or architecture of this framework: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/983503

Alas, the app this was referring to may be lost to time... Tree4rest (talk) 21:08, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

My edit was reverted
I tried to add some HTML Editors, and my edit was reverted. Notepad2 and Sublime Text need to be added, and also I think Evrsoft 1st Page 2000, Expresso (for mac) and Notepad2-mod should be added. desbest (talk) 22:14, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

It's been discussed before, but as I recall it, those have no special features for HTML-editing. If you want to make constructive remarks, start by pointing to those specialized features, using reliable sources TEDickey (talk) 22:21, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

"as I recall it, those have no special features for HTML-editing" I listed my edits under the Source Code Editors section of the page, not the WYSIWYG editors part of the page. desbest (talk) 00:35, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I have added Sublime Text and Visual Studio Code to the list, in line with this template on web editors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:HTML_editors. I don't know about Notepad2, but if Atom and VIM and everything else is on there, then Sublime Text and VS Code definitely belong. Crazy that VS Code wasn't on there yet, since it is the most popular editor for web at this time. Lomacar (talk) 04:01, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

My edit was also reverted, twice
I put Pinegrow on the list of WYSIWYG editors because it looks like an excellent piece of software for the purpose. It is highly rated on alternativeto.net, more popular than Webflow, Weebly and Bootstrap Studio. It is the number one WYSIWYG alternative to Dreamweaver on that site. If it is removed then those other ones should be removed from Wikipedia too. Not to mention all the old outdated ones on there. In fact, maybe it would be good to organize or mark the software based on if it is still being developed or not. We should have a historical record of old programs, but people reading this page are probably more interested in what are the good and popular apps in the present. It is a shame to remove excellent software from the list just because somebody deems it not "noteworthy" enough. Lomacar (talk) 03:49, 6 October 2021 (UTC)