Talk:List of Horrible Histories songs

Merger
If anyone has any problems with the proposed merger on the article, please post it on the subsection below

Merger Problems

 * I think the most major problem here is that rather than giving a rationale behind your merge proposal for us to discuss, you have merely gone ahead with the merge templates confidently asking for any reason it should *not* happen. Why do you think these two articles should merge? FYI I am highly opposed to this proposal but I will hear you out. :)--Coin945 (talk) 17:36, 18 July 2013 (UTC)


 * What proposals for merger are there? Perhaps I am missing something but I do not see a proposal or rational listed. Ianmurray5 (talk) 11:58, 24 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I already removed the merger templates because they had no rationale behind them.--Coin945 (talk) 18:34, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

This article does not cite any references or sources
I wonder if adding hyperlinks to appropriate YouTube videos as requested in comments would solve in part the need to have references.

Added a two hyperlinks linking to YouTube as examples (Flame & Death Favourite Things).Ianmurray5 (talk) 12:51, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Radio Times Article - Idea for improvement
Read: Horrible Histories: 5 brilliant songs from series 5 as an idea to improve this wiki pageIanmurray5 (talk) 15:32, 24 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I wrote lots of great content (including content based on that source) in the Horrible Histories (2009 TV series) article. The relevant stuff can simply be copied over as is, or altered accordingly.--Coin945 (talk) 18:34, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge with List of Horrible Histories episodes
First off, understand that I don't mean to denigrate anyone's hard work here. Thing is, I had originally proposed a cleanup on this article -- based on my previous extensive work rewriting the main TV series article, which should be enough to demonstrate both my goodwill towards the show and familiarity with it.

But quite honestly, the more time I spend trying to figure out what this article needs, the more the blatant fancruftiness just really, really jumps out. Yes, music is important in the context of the TV series, in which article it is accordingly, and lovingly, now given special mention. A separate list implies separate notability for the songs themselves, and -- absent a CD release or similar -- they just don't have that. They don't even have official titles, most of them.

Barring simply proposing this article for deletion, which almost certainly would mean wholesale losing the aforementioned hard work, I've come up with what I think is the best-case scenario:


 * 1) As noted, everything here that possibly needs to be said about Horrible Histories' music in general has already been said in, or potentially can be added to, the 'Music' section in the main article.
 * 2) Everything else of interest -- by which I specifically mean the song titles, main performers and parody inspiration if any, and possibly the lyricist if not Dave Cohen -- is already in, or can easily be moved into, the List of Episodes, which is in fact a worthwhile spinoff article that I'd much rather be working to improve anyway (frankly I have always been irritated, when I've checked it in the past, that the songs aren't easier to find). Like so: Song: Cut-Throat Celts: 'Boudicca' (hard rock parody) Martha Howe-Douglas, Mathew Baynton, Jim Howick and Ben Willbond
 * 3) The creator of the article has already voiced his support for this proposal (over on the main article's talkpage). Therefore, unless there's serious objection within, say, the next week, I'm proposing to formally merge the song article into the list article and go on from there as described above.  Shoebox 2   talk  23:28, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, have now finished the rewrite of the episode list article--available for review in my sandbox--incorporating the usable song info from this one as outlined above. I've checked over the header, but aside from a few credits there's just nothing usable there (although the claims re: the original inspiration for including the songs and the saga of the nonexistent CD release would be, if they could be sourced at all/to something much more plausible, respectively.)
 * At any rate, in the absence of any objections will complete the merge as of tomorrow (Monday) afternoon EST, turning 'List of Horrible Histories songs' into a simple redirect to the newly-enhanced episode list. Again, my sincere thanks to everyone who's put serious work into this article, and rest assured everything of it that I could possibly salvage has been (in fact, it was a huge help in the process). Shoebox 2   talk  03:26, 6 January 2014 (UTC)