Talk:List of Internet phenomena/Archive 6

Christopher Walken
Not sure if it was notable enough for inclusion here, but I figured I'd throw it out there. Apologies if it's been removed before. The combination of his existing Internet fame and the presidential hoax seemed noteworthy... if not as much so as say Numa Numa. Luatha 08:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * the prasing : but this fame culminated in 2006  is inappropriate if uncited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.69.137.23 (talk) 16:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

YTMND
Why isn't YTMND.com listed in the list of web sites? Most of the Internet phenomena listed here have been parodied on YTMND at one time or another, along with a bunch of smaller Internet fads. 75.16.166.193 00:38, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Chris Crocker
The phrase: Chris' world-wide fame exploded is uncourced, unencylopedic and needs to be removed/rephrased —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.69.137.23 (talk) 16:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

So edit it. PlaguedKiller —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.130.26 (talk) 05:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Why was technoviking deleted?
He's was number 4 on google trends, has numerous remixes, and is blowing up on message boards. Some would say he's the next Chuck Norris. Why deleted? I'm new at this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camaroman (talk • contribs) 19:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * If a reliable source can be found showing the technoviking has notability outside of the Internet (i.e. covered in the news), then it can be added to the list. UnfriendlyFire 05:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

One World
I'd like to see the One World campaign by MadV on the list. Looking at his wiki entry there are several 'reliable media sources' which documented the campaign, and it definately left it's mark on the YT community. It is after all the most responded video of all time (excluding obvious attempts by videos at spamming their way to the top), and was featured on various news programmes. 194.176.105.40 03:41, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

The exploding whale
I am surprised that this hasn't been included, because it is a really old pure internet phenomenon:

http://www.google.de/search?q=exploding+whale&ie=utf-8

89.247.33.147 15:22, 27 October 2007 (UTC) Peter Lemken Berlin

The exploding whale
girls showing off their long tongue on video blog websites like youtube —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.25.124.23 (talk) 16:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

This is Sparta Techno Remix
A video with 4 million views, spawning off many other remakes, and is the most liked 300 video on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZBA0SKmQy8 If it can't have its own section, it should be added under the "300" part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WrestlingFrodo25 (talk • contribs) 02:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

xiao xiao
I nominate the Xiao Xiao series of animations (and the flash-game) to be listed on the main page as well. 85.178.77.104 03:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You don't have to nominate anything - just simply find some reliable sources that back up these animations as notable and feel free to edit mercilessly. the_undertow talk  04:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Charlie the Unicorn goes to Candy Mountain
Charlie the Unicorn goes to Candy Mountain is a huge sensation amongst kids and even young adults. I've met several people that can quote most lines and there are even youtube videos of people re-enacting the video themselves line for line. I would rather that someone with more experience add it to the page than I, so it gets done properly.

Annoying video that gets stuck in your head is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus.

-sadchild talk  19:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Shoop Da Whoop
IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZER IMMA FIRIN MAH LAZER SHOOP DA WHOOP

the shoop da whoop meme should definitely be listed here. Diegoamerezrocks 19:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * See previous notes (including the large banner at the top) regarding notability. OhNo itsJamie Talk 19:28, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

not phenomena
these aren't phenomena-

Hurra Torpedo — A Norwegian band that became part of a viral ad campaign by going on a coast to coast tour in the US that was paid for by Ford in order to promote the Ford Fusion car. As part of the ad campaign, a mockumentary movie called "The Crushing Blow" is being made. By the end of November 2005 a clip from The Crushing Blow was viewed more than 500,000 times in a couple of days from the web site iFilm.[5] Lemon Demon — A one-man band by Neil Cicierega. Cicierega's Hyakugojyuuichi was a web animation hit.[6] Neil is also the creator of the popular two series hit Potter Puppet Pals. JerryC — Taiwanese guitarist and composer who wrote "Canon Rock", a rock arrangement of Pachelbel's Canon in D.[7] Jeong-Hyun Lim (a.k.a. funtwo) — Guitar player from South Korea, who first played JerryC's Canon Rock and post on YouTube.[8]

I am an expert on the iternet and there are a thousand things that belong here over these —Preceding unsigned comment added by Areugayyaurlol (talk • contribs) 14:27, August 15, 2007


 * Heavens, please not 1,000. But if you have two or three good examples for the page that would be super...once you have the hang of wiki markup language, signing your talk posts, etc., you can also add your Internet expertise to the internet meme article, which is somewhat bare bones at the moment.  Also, if you want to dispute some of the examples as being non-notable even though sourced, have at it.  Wikidemo 21:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Do tell, how can someone be an "expert at the internet?"-- Oni Ookami Alfador Talk 18:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

This is a stupid article. of course hurra torpedo should be on here, as well as all the big chan memes like looooongcat or cockmongler. After all those are mostly things that started on one sites like SA or 4chan and migrated to other sites. There's not even a lolcat entry in images.. You guys either know very little about the internet or just like to pretend that most of it (save for wikipedia of couse) doesn't matter out of some sort of superiority complex. This article should be as long as possible. I'd stay and "contribute" but I know a losing battle when I see one 68.101.78.230 14:29, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4chan "memes" are forced phenomena perpetrated by juvenile morons. JuJube 04:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

The Cake is a Lie
This is one to watch. This phrase from Portal seems to be gaining momentum as a meme. The song from the ending credits "Still Alive" is being quoted often on social networking sites such as digg. Also, "the cake is a lie" is gaining popularity.--13:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's mentioned in Portal and Still Alive redirects there; maybe The cake is a lie should, too... JuJube 04:53, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Over 9000!
This is a popular enough video. It has had well over 2 million views and has had a considerable impact on the internet. I think it deserves a mention in the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zabuza Sword (talk • contribs) 22:46, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * See "Charlie the Unicorn" for why that doesn't impress. JuJube 20:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Most annoying memes as of late

 * "So I herd u liek mudkipz"
 * "DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU"

204.52.215.13 23:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

This is Mason
Mason Reed from thisismason.com became famous with anonymous and his internet popularity is still growing. He should be mentioned with "internet people". Shinlink (talk) 22:11, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Section choice
We have some sections in the article but it's difficult to use these in a consistent way. For example, is Chocolate Rain a video or a band? Is Numa Numa a person or a video? And so on. Some input on this would be helpful before I tackle the problem myself. Colonel Warden (talk) 14:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Chocolate Rain
Minor vandalism request to be fixed, someone got something about /b/tards in there. Please Fix. 71.98.12.254 (talk) 18:01, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Done. Colonel Warden (talk) 18:06, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! 71.98.12.254 (talk) 20:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Bands
I renamed this section "Musicians" because, obviously, not all the musicians featured comprise, or are in, bands. --Tony Sidaway 16:05, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Charlie The Unicorn
This is a pretty significant video, with over 25 million views on Youtube alone. Possibly could be added to the list under "animation-based." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.189.129.134 (talk) 20:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * As stated at the top of the page, you'll need reliable sources to support it's notability. OhNo itsJamie Talk 20:32, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed. As famous as this is, there are almost certainly some sources, so you just have to find them.  Try poring through google news.Wikidemo 21:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well i don't know if these are included as sources but almost everyone at my school has been singing the song along with many other schools. And many remake videos have been produced for the video too. Such as a harry potter one and one from thehill88 etc.--Mugatu3333 (talk) 03:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Here. This video has 17 million views, and there a few other which total over 25 million. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.189.129.134 (talk) 02:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Bubb Rubb + Lil sis
It is a crime against wikiality that Bubb Rubb and lil sis are not included. the Lepraucan/Where da Gold at? Both are classic examples of Meme. And the grape stomp lady, how could I forget her? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.101.119.130 (talk) 04:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. JuJube 04:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSOSJ68xOBA --BillyTFried (talk) 18:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Websites
I removed the list of websites because I couldn't work out how the listed sites could be classed as "internet phenomena" in the sense of this article. --Tony Sidaway 16:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I suppose that the idea is that these websites are either phenomena in their own right or they are a notable seed-bed for the phenomena. We can have cites if you really insist but these seems quite unnecessary for well-known sites which have articles of their own, like Google and Wikipedia. For example, see Russia Today on YouTube. Colonel Warden (talk) 16:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

reorg
This article seriously needs clarity as to what should be included and how to categorize it. I think that the way in which something is a phenomena is more important than what the item itself is. For example, Chuck Norris Facts and Walken for President are web-based jokes about celebrities, Tourist Guy and lolcats are appropriated image/collage, Chris Crocker is a celebrity blogger; from a net phenom viewpoint, he has more in common with bands that got famous thru online vids than he does with Chuck Norris (but right now, both are in the "people" section). I think having a websites section is a serious detraction from quality. Social Networking Sites are a net phenomena; let's just say that and link to a list of them from here rather than engaging in a popularity contest. Ditto content hosting sites like JibJab, YouTube, YahooVideo, etc. -- Akb4 (talk) 09:05, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Christmas gift from Time Magazine
For all those in search of reliable sources, Time just came out with its top ten viral videos of 2007 list here. I shall not partake, but if you need a source here it is. Enjoy. Wikidemo (talk) 17:32, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Alison Stokke
Isn't she the quintessential internet phenomenon? A rather average athlete becoming insanely popular on the internet on the basis of her looks. There was an article about her in the Washington Post. 122.167.24.74 (talk) 18:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * See Articles for deletion/Allison Stokke (second nomination). –Pomte 12:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Candy Mountain?
I think the video "Charlie Goes to Candy Mountain" is worthy of being put here, its rather popular. What do you think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.235.190.138 (talk) 18:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

yeah but what about website
a lots of the internet phenomenons comes from ytmnd, 4chan and so on, they could be quoted no ?

4chan ; longcat, ... ytmnd ; all the things with the nigg*, with darth vador and so on

for me it's some kind of phenomenon.

i think the eon8.com catastrophe should be on here.

that was nuts for a while 8/1

Also, this list is totally incomplete. Tubgirl was a meme before goatse was, and rotten.com and maddox.xmission should be on the websites list. Maddox is definitly a phenomenon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.108.208.160 (talk) 21:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

wait, how come the "i herd u liek mudkipz" and "flying spaghetti monster" isn't on the list?
How come the popular Mudkip internet meme isn't in the list. And isn't the flying spaghetti monster a internet meme as well, it's been popularized on the web community like Uncyclopedia? Unless, if I can find an internet article or a newspaper about the "I herd u liek mudkipz" meme, I should add that in there. I'm guessing our policy is a little too strict to extract sources from blogs and imagesites. Other than that, it is really funny (or annoying). --Dark paladin x (talk) 21:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There are no reliable sources known to exist about the mudkip meme, as with most of the stuff from 4chan that becomes popular.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 09:26, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Adding alternate reality games (ARG) category?
Aren't ARGs an intresting internet phenomenon? They include the I Love Bees (also known as ilovebees or ILB for short) by the creaters of Halo? and the Lost Experience that promoted the television show Lost. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.65.150.220 (talk) 00:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

No Asian Prince?
Peter Pan is on here, why not Asian Prince? Of course, the lack of Brian Peppers is astonishing. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 17:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

itt van a gumimaci?
what about itt van a gumimaci? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.178.107.95 (talk) 20:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

-- No GiveBoobs.com? ---
What about GiveBoobs.com? - The girl successfully cyberbegged for breast implants, after millions of hits. There needs to be a reference to the cyberbegging phenomenon here, and I think GiveBoobs is the best example, in terms of tastelessness, lack of 'need' by the beggars, humor, and the money-generating power of the internet. Article about giveboobs appeared in Wired magazine, here: http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2003/06/59165.

Ladies217man (talk) 20:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC) jan 9, 2008

TUBGIRL!
I saw goatse on there but why not tubgirl if we include material down that path? http://www.tubgirl.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lipton800 (talk • contribs) 15:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

2 Girls 1 Cup
I think this shock video should definitely be included, especially seeing how much of an impact the video reactions have made on youtube and it's world-wide reach. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gibbon1993 (talk • contribs) 20:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, it seems an obvious addition, so I've added it. Colonel Warden (talk) 22:35, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * but someone keeps taking it down, so lets have a heated debate here.--Mongreilf (talk) 12:05, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with the rules governing editing wikipedia, but the current entry seems hyperbolic. Especially the first sentence; "A cursed cryptic video clip that cause it viewers experience symptoms such as mental confusion, vomiting and psychological trauma". Really? Obviously most people are gonna be disgusted by the video, but I somehow doubt this is an accurate description. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.136.30 (talk) 21:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

At this time, there are no reliable sources demonstrating the notability of this video. If someone is convinced that it is notable, why not attempt to create an article about it? If the article survives an AFD, then I'd accept the notability. OhNo itsJamie Talk 00:00, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's actually the reaction to the video that is the phenom. However, the blog used as a citation is not reliable. the_undertow talk  00:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Good, we have some proper discussion. My contention is that


 * The phenomenon is evident and you are failing to AGF in recognising this. I didn't just invent this, you know.


 * I found the cite by using Google News after Jamie dissed the first cite. It seems to be a bona fide news source covering this sort of material and has an editorial staff.


 * I'm not sure how blog is defined exactly but, even if, for the sake of argument, NewTeeVee.com is considered a blog, such a source can be considered reliable. For example, RealClimate is regularly cited in Global Warming.  We have other cites on this page to Slashdot and some entries have no cite at all. Colonel Warden (talk) 00:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * (1) An entry doesn't have to have a cite if it has a corresponding article (in that having an article indicates that its notability has been accepted). OhNo itsJamie Talk 00:26, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * (2) As mentioned in the WP:Reliable sources policy, blogs are usually not considered to be reliable sources unless they are notable and/or written by experts. RealClimate is notable. Though NewTeeVee may assert that it is notable, making such an assertion does not make it so.
 * (3) Google hits are not accepted measures of notability. OhNo itsJamie Talk 00:26, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


 * One can still AGF while reverting an edit. I did assume good faith, checked the source and do not see it is compatible with third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. CNN is good. NewTeeVee, not so much. But with that you should be trying to find consensus instead of walking the fine line of incivility in your edit summaries and creeping towards 3RR. the_undertow talk  00:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Looking into it further, NewTeeVee.com is a subsidiary of GigaOM which does describe itself as a blog but which seems to be quite notable and authoritative. Since they have reputation to maintain and a professional, editorial staff, I contend that their output is as reliable for our purposes as any other journalistic work (which is not saying much :)).  Colonel Warden (talk) 00:44, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


 * curious how there are entries here with no sources cited, yet this one gets reverted. i do hope people aren't losing their impartiality to the nature of the content. more importantly the video's content, together with the reliable source guidelines, maybe skewing the notability test because many reliable sources would be unlikely to touch this, even if the world and his wife had watched it. --Mongreilf (talk) 12:09, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

oh and Ohnoitsjami "WP:Reliable sources policy". it's not a policy, it's a guideline. --Mongreilf (talk) 12:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, and those entries have corresponding articles that are sourced. Like I said, if you create an entry for it and it survives AFD, I'll accept it.OhNo itsJamie Talk 16:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * your wikipedia article criterion for notability is a red herring. there are other forms of notability, in fact wikipedia and other wikis are specifically given as examples of non-reliable sources here (incidently was reliable_source_examples, where you got the "blogs are not usually considered reliable sources", because that page is neither policy nor guidelines, but an essay). the problem in this case is an internet phenomenan seems to be occurring, but because of its nature it's unlikely to be reported in the places deemed reliable. obviously we can't do original research, but i wonder, as a side issue, when is something so self evidently true that stating it is no longer considered original research--Mongreilf 12:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Update. The Smoking Gun have reported on it here. The Smoking Gun is part of Turner Entertainment, which is part of Time Warner. Also Radar (magazine) have reported on it here, they seem to be blaming former attorney general alberto gonzalez, though in a somewhat satirical way --Mongreilf 14:19, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I just noticed those sources too and updated the article again, citing Radar. Colonel Warden 23:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * This video is probably notable. If you can't find good enough sources, be patient and persistent and you will.  Blogs are not normally reliable sources.  The page that says that used to be a guideline but the material got moved and it's in flux right now.  I don't think it's anyone's intent that by demoting part of it to essay status we would admit blogs generally as satisfying WP:verifiability concerns.  That's especially true for this article.  If we lowered the bar to inclusion of an Internet meme that it's been mentioned in a major blog we would have thousands of potential members of this list and, hence, an indiscriminate and useless article.  The point is to cover several major, important phenomena, not to allow anything that's real.  The list inclusion criterion has no real policy basis, it's just an editorial decision made by me and some earlier editors to the article to try to find a good dividing line between what's worth keeping and what isn't.  If we're not tough enough we get a bunch of junk in the article, and it's quite likely to be gutted or deleted by the community when it comes to their attention.  Incidentally, the reliability of a news source / blog doesn't depend on it being a notable institution in its own right.  There are plenty of reliable articles published in non-notable sources (e.g. a neighborhood newspaper), and plenty of notable news sources (e.g. the Colbert Report, advocacy journalism, editorials) that are not reliable.  It's really a question of editorial oversight and fact-checking.  Blogs are usually self-published, and the article submissions are not reviewed for accuracy, relevance, importance, etc.  They're great sources of information but when you actually drill down, even pieces by famous bloggers tend to cover trivia, they're speculative, and they are full of errors.  A few months ago we were dealing with people who wanted to add Tay Zonday's Chocolate Rain video.  It was obviously a big thing with millions of Youtube hits, but no reliable source had written about it yet.  Sure enough, a couple weeks later a good article appeared, it got its citation, and the rest is history. Wikidemo 09:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I think someone should take this to DRV. 2girls1cup and its variants have been salted, and never went through the AfD process. If someone really wants to create an article, they should userfy it, and write and cite it well, then show that to the people at DRV, although I don't think they'll look down on it too well partially because of the vulgarity of the subject matter.-h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 15:12, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh wait. It does have an article now!-h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 15:13, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks like early incarnations were speedied a couple of times. The current version seems to be quit well written and sourced. --Tony Sidaway 16:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Even the 'reaction videos' are very popular - I think that proves notability - are there any precedents ? I guess it's down to the rise of video as an online medium recently. --195.137.93.171 (talk) 14:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Broken link ?
Memes on the Internet Article regarding the spread of Internet memes. "offline for maintenance" --195.137.93.171 (talk) 14:16, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Lemon Party?
What about Lemon Party since there's a parody commercial about it and it's been referenced several times on NBC's "30 Rock". FreeNachos (talk) 02:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by FreeNachos (talk • contribs) 02:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Should "Cloverfield" even count?
This movie was hardly promoted just because of the internet, especially if it's mentioned in the same breath as Snakes on a Plane (which actually had lines WRITTEN because of internet message boards). Cloverfield keeping aspects of the movie secret is not a rare practice. MOST movies do this. I think Paramount Pictures contrived this idea of calling it an "internet phenomenon" because it's not.

FreeNachos (talk) 02:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Corey, Melbourne party boy, will need a mention soon
He's this week's Chris Crocker. Ichormosquito (talk) 07:59, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No, he's not. JuJube (talk) 09:44, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * So it DID go through AfD. I had looked for a history of his Wikipedia article but couldn't find it.   Thanks for the link.  Ichormosquito (talk) 16:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

What defines an 'internet phenomena'?
Sorry, but I'd like to know the difference between the things are considered 'phenomena's? Why can't I add many articles from List of YouTube celebrities‎ or Category:Internet personalities? Because all those subjects have gained popularity by word of mouth over the internet. This list may be better off as a category, or nothing at all. Unless my concern is address, I will consider listing this article for deletion.--Seriousspender (talk) 19:23, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can add more entries to this list if you have sources which demonstrate their notability as internet phenomena. The list already contains some YouTube celebrities.  If they become too numerous then one list can reference the other.  Colonel Warden (talk) 22:27, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * True that this title leaves a lot to be desired. Note that this page has already been nominated for deletion twice, with the discussions found here and here. I personally tend to think that if something on this list is notable to have its own WP page, then it is notable. Why make this list a page? It makes more sense to have a Category:Internet_Phenomena tag and let the individually-notable phenomena be tagged. Roscoestl (talk) 22:32, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Why not just link to List of YouTube celebrities instead of list them here?--Seriousspender (talk) 22:36, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I will be listing this for deletion in the future, watch my contributions.--Seriousspender (talk) 23:05, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Chuck Norris Innacuracy
Vin Deseil facts came first, followed by Bob Saget Facts, then MR.T Facts, then Chuck norris facts.... view 4q.cc... the people who created the origional facts generator in responce to a Vin Deseil family movie... http://4q.cc/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.244.53.151 (talk) 06:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed. –Pomte 06:32, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

More: Tay Zonday, Rick Roll
These two should be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.197.135.67 (talk) 03:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Tay Zonday is in already. Rick Roll was in but I took it out as it seems to be a form of spam. We're not here to play tricks on people. Colonel Warden (talk) 19:15, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Rick Roll should be in, it was a phenomena. 86.111.162.127 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 00:33, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Martin Leung (the Video Game Pianist) ?
Leung started out gaining popularity with his piano renditions of the scores to Mario, Zelda, and other Nintendo games on Youtube. After he got really popular, he signed on with a tour to play with Play! A Video Game Symphony. So I think that qualifies him as notable / internet phenomena, right?

--Alegoo92 (talk) 04:21, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Spelling - please correct
I can't yet edit this article. Could someone please correct the reference, near the start, to "phenomenas". This is wrong - "phenomena" is already plural so the S is unwanted. Thanks Nomorenonotnever (talk) 23:36, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Crazy German Kid not included?
Few internet memes have become so popular and inspired as many parodies as the "Crazy German Kid" video. Shouldn't it be included in this article? Langas 10:04 AM 13th April
 * not that popular, remove? --80.136.227.168 (talk) 15:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

no Magibon?
"don't tase me, bro" makes it but not Magibon??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.135.83 (talk) 10:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Added Honglaowai (红老外)
Added this guy who is hot in China right now and his videos have been seen over 10 million times and China's press and TV can't stop talking about him. I think he is notable enough to be included. I will let the community decide whether to keep him on the list, but please keep in mind that he is mostly famous in the Chinese-speaking world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kltiger (talk • contribs) 08:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Bloodninja
Bloodninja should be included on the list. I put on my robe and wizard hat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.113.6.227 (talk) 23:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sources plz. JuJube (talk) 23:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Bloodninja
Yes, Bloodninja should definitely be here. His chat logs have been circling the internet making people fall out of their chairs for years. just google bloodninja chat and you will get about 13,000 results. Here are some of them:

Bloodninja.org chat logs

more chat logs

Kbduvall (talk) 19:51, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Blogs and Albino Black Sheep don't count as reliable sources. JuJube (talk) 08:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

They're reliable internet sources for this article: websites dedicated to internet phenomena.Chinawoman (talk) 05:59, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I think lazy sunday is a pretty cool guy. eh raps about red vines and doesn't afraid of anything
Any reason there's no Lazy Sunday on this page? I know it didn't originate on the internet, but that's where it really took off, and spawned numerous response videos. Just curious, I guess. I'm generally in favor of trying to keep this sort of article from including too much crap, but this one is certainly notable. -R. fiend (talk) 18:50, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Merge from Shock site?
What do people think about removing the list of sites from Shock site and instead, pointing the readers here? Mango juice talk 03:44, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the 2 girls 1 cup should go here and then shock site should point here in a "see also". Ogrish and goatse aren't phenomena per se, they are sites.  Personally, I think this article is long enough as it is just listing individual videos by themselves or sites that are famous for just one thing.  It would get too long if we also use it as a place to list popular sites that are famous for a whole style of content.  Wikidemo (talk) 18:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Note that Goatse.cx is already in the list here. I agree that popular or momentarily popular websites aren't necessarily "Internet phenomena" but the definition of shock site includes two types of things: (1) orindary web sites like Rotten.com or Ogrish that host shocking material, and (2) extremely shocking image/video memes.  The latter type certainly is a type of Internet phenomenon, right?  Mango juice talk 14:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

never put your picture on the internet
http://www.fadmine.com/Fun/never-put-picture-on-the-internet.html

this and similar, isnt this already a fad now?

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I was wondering why this wasn't added either...

also, don't forget about star wars kid, he needs to be added http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_kid

and why isn't Mirian/Magibon on here either? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.136.83.245 (talk) 15:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Pirates vs Ninjas
This has not been included and I'm sure there are many sources on this. TheSun (talk) 05:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Zero Punctuation
Zero Punctuation, the weekly animated game reviews by Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw (fullyramblomatic.com) should be included here ... ZP has been an internet phenomenon since August 2007. I feel it should be included along with a link to Ben Croshaw and Escapist Magazine IanDangerously (talk) 14:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Any entries must have reliable sources documenting that they are a phenomenon (i.e., news article). OhNo itsJamie Talk 14:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Meatspin
Has anyone thought about adding meatspin to internet phenomena, i mean everyone i know has seen it somehow. If you haven't seen it, it involves homosexual anal sex between and man and a transvestite. It is a repeated video clip, giving the appearance of the transvestites penis swinging. It is played to "you spin me right round" by dead or alive

www.meatspin.com
 * You mean "Ridin Spinnaz"? Uh, no. JuJube (talk) 11:10, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * If you think the likes of Meatspin, Goatse, and Tub girl are noteworthy enough to include on a wikipedia article, I suppose you could try it and see how long it takes for someone to dispute its presence.

207.7.186.29 (talk) 20:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

B3ta
The website b3ta.com is a fairly major internets in the UK, it's certainly a meme hub, more often in mainstream media than 4chan with a member count of over 66000. 80.7.26.80 (talk) 13:10, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

The Anniversary of Internet Phenomenon
I created the term Internet Phenomenon. At the fourth anniversary of this article, I must concede that yes, the term was original research, created without reference or citation. Others have noted this discrepancy, moving the page to "Internet meme". Strangely enough, the term has persisted on Wikipedia and has since spread memetically throughout the Internet, even inspiring an ED category. To all this I say: I'm sorry.

It happened four years ago, back in my first days of editing Wikipedia using IP 68.116.240.4 At this time I had not chosen a username, and on 14 April 2004 created an article on the "ThunderCats Outtakes" circulating the Internet at that time. On 15 April 2004 I created the Internet Phenomenon article to list some popular things on the Internet. The term was coined on the spot. I should have linked to the "Internet meme" article developing later, but felt that not all popular events on the Internet are necessarily memes, and that the definition of meme might be diluted by including anything remotely popular.

On that same day I edited the Thundercats Outtakes article to link to "Internet Phenomenon," in order to avoid its deletion, and continued to edit pages (OS-Tan, Pancake Rabbit) to link to Internet Phenomenon, in a petty attempt to justify their existence as a series of related topics. After editing articles with various IPs, I requested to consolidate my edits under a single username, "ihavenolife", using the IPs 68.116.241.53 and 158.4.56.6 to request a change of attribution for an edit, though the service was discontinued before the request could be implemented. This was in 2005, after my deployment ended, as I returned to Fort Carson, Co from Iraq. These were my noobish days as an editor. Still, users added to the page, and it continued to grow to its current state, at its zenith attempting to catalog every known event of Internet popularity ever created. The article has since been trimmed, and may have never been an encyclopedic article in the first place. I should have made it a category instead.

As the discussion warning says, and as various editors have discussed on this talk page over the years, Wikipedia is meant to have reliable sources, not things I made up one day. With that in mind, I request that this article be permanently renamed, and all references to the term Internet Phenomenon or Internet Phenomena be deleted, on Wikipedia and throughout the Internet, as it has always been uncited and unverifiable original research. Ihavenolife (talk) 05:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but you don't own your own mind anymore. Wikidemo (talk) 20:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not intended for something I made up one day. You'll find no search results for Internet Phenomenon or Internet Phenomena before Apr 14, 2004, because no sources used it.  Any references to the term can be found in recent blogs and news sources because of this article, which is the opposite behavior of what Wikipedia is intended for.  Wikipedia is not meant to produce original terms and ideas.  No one should support the existence of this page unless you clearly support the violation of Wikipedia policy.  Ihavenolife (talk) 19:15, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm aware of no such policy. If a subject is verifiable, notable, and encyclopedic in nature then it's suitable for inclusion here, even if it originated as a byproduct of Wikipedia.  If what you're saying is true (and I have a hard time believing it), the article was unverifiable and therefore unsuitable at the time.  But it's fine now, and we don't delete articles as punishment for past sins.  Moreover, the article is about the subject matter, not the term.  Internet phenomena did not originate with Wikipedia: they predate our encyclopedia and they exist on their own.  It might as well have been called "List of Internet memes", although the scope here is a little bit wider. Wikidemo (talk) 20:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Here are reliable sources discussing internet phenomena in the year 2000. Colonel Warden (talk) 22:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

FAIL
Surely FAIL is worth a mention here. It's at least as popular as lolcats. mikeaitch (talk) 05:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Angry Video Game Nerd
I think that the angry video game nerd should be included in this article also, with link to his origional wikipedia pagr Markthesharksheehan (talk) 05:02, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

He is already. Colonel Warden (talk) 10:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Maybe some should add that the Angry German Kid actually acts the whole thing and released the video on purpose. 85.177.45.105 (talk) 16:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

The Cake is a Lie, Weighted Companion Cube
I submit these two as internet phenomena, though the Cube has a stronger chance since has had plush toys, Halloween costumes, etc made. JAF1970 (talk) 19:35, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

The companion cube is definately an Internet Phenomena now. It should be included in the article with a link to Portal IanDangerously (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

The Companion Cube is a phenomenon within the gaming community, that doesn't necessarily imply that it's an internet phenomenon. F33bs (talk) 06:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

fat girl
who is the one fat girl that is sped up alot, on a couch, in a blue and white shirt with flowers on it. someone give me the wiki page for this plz? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.171.231 (talk) 04:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me?
I got a suggestion you can put for phenomena.

==TV Shows' Episodes==


 * Lovesick Sonic — In the end, there's a Sonic Sez about sexual harrasment, which Sonic is really getting advice.


 * Wacky Delly — Due to the popularity of Rocko, Filburt & Heffer making a cartoon. Can be seen anywhere.


 * The Courtship of Stewie's Father — Peanut Butter Jelly Time parody by Brian Griffin. It can be seen on YouTube

TVB

Sonic gives Censored Advise is a very big Ytmnd fad/net phenomena. Max (owner of Ytmnd) was actually being threatened of being sued by Sega (specifically the UK located branch of the company) if he did not remove the site. Find the "official"/appropriate source document and it can be thrown up right away.

Wacky Delly = No That is like saying the "Log" commercial from Ren & Stimpy should be on the list as well.

Peanut Butter Jelly Time is already on the list, not sure what you're trying to say. Are you stating that as an example of the fad or are you attempting to say that it started the fad? Family Guy has never started anything aside from the example of a popular show being bad, and the long fights Peter has with the chicken. mcnichoj (talk) 06:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Just checked and I  found the Sonic thing is already mentioned and has its own article on the Ytmnd page, it is not needed on here. Mcnichoj (talk) 06:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Rules 1&2
Guys, Why are 4chan and 2channel on here? Has no one ever heard of the Rules of the Internet? We don't need more people joining 4chan and help make the cancer that is killing /b/ worse! Stop this. Remove those. And they're not even Internet Phenomena... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainjeanlucpicardoftheussenterprise (talk • contribs) 02:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Rules 1&2 only apply to raids. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.89.65 (talk) 15:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

/b/ must die anyway. Believe me, I've been there. and also resisted the addiction the board creates. 82.12.88.229 (talk) 16:01, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Pedobear
Why can't I find that lovely furry bear anywhere in Wikipedia? I think it should be mentioned, if not here, somewhere. Lab-oratory (talk) 16:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree. It's really frequently referenced in jest when underage girls are mentioned on multiple forums and is quite ubiquitous on several major forums such as 4chan. 24.84.198.63 (talk) 07:47, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

300, Not In Films
Why not? It's started many parodies including a partial Office spoof that was featured on YouTube called "305". http://youtube.com/watch?v=8wpa2Qplm8M Sparta Techno song. (Makes references to some other memes.) http://youtube.com/watch?v=wcAq9mOUx8s&feature=related

mcnichoj (talk) 05:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Charlie The Unicorn
I don't see any it isn't already Cal05000 (talk) 07:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Starfox 64
"Do a barrel roll." How is that not on this list. It has been a phenomenon since 2000. You could even say it's more quoted than "all your base are belong to us."

I second this request. "Do A Barrel Roll" has inspired countless prank calls, most notably to Tom Green Live. In addition, there are numerous YouTube videos devoted to the phenomenon. It's not as well known as "all your base", but I think it's a worthy addition to this list. F33bs (talk) 05:45, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Well the article isn't complete yet, but we'll or try to add some stuff to it so we could get things orginized. I'm an internet meme fan and all, but I hope the article is finished. =P --Girla PurpleHeart (talk) 18:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Agreed. But I don't think this article will ever be finished. :D F33bs (talk) 01:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia?
I think wikipedia itself should be on there somewhere, almost everyone knows what it is, they have even referenced it on The simpsons many times. 98.15.233.184 (talk) 19:33, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

It's already there under the website section. mcnichoj (talk) 05:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

no it isn't 218.212.183.252 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 12:07, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Vernon Koekemoer
Should Vernon Koekemoer not be added to the People list?

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=139&art_id=vn20080320080119105C679269

http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=751627

http://video.news.sky.com/skynews/video?videoSourceID=1312555&flashURL=feeds/skynews/latest/flash/web_movers_2000_100408.flv

AthurDent (talk) 09:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I hope she made lotsa spaghetti!
Why Hotel Mario isn't even mentioned? It has a lot of popular Internet memes like "I hope she made lotsa spaghetti" and "You gotta help us." and Mario's "All toasters toast toast", "check out the enclosed instruction book", and "No." Example: http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=PEYeTsvVrmA --200.83.14.223 (talk) 17:46, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

It's over 9000?
I think someone should write a few words here about "It's over 9000" if there are notable sources. After all, there's already a mention in 9000 (number). Alex.g (talk) 16:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Fix the bump.  RC-0722 communicator/kills 16:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

That was my question, but someone offed it! Popie the Popester. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.188.4 (talk) 02:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC) Definatly. This is one of the biggest memes out there, I was shocked when it wasn't mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.247.179 (talk) 03:06, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Someone needs to find an article/"reliable" source that makes note of Over 9,000 before it can be thrown on the page. Shouldn't be too hard. mcnichoj (talk) 06:13, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

this is as close as i could come to finding a reliable source: --SKiPMacD (talk) 04:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

xkcd
Where is Randall Munroe? Revzack (talk) 22:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

XKCD already has it's own article, shown here: xkcd. Since it is primarily a webcomic, it does not necessarily fit in with the stated purpose of this article. Rautenkranzmt (talk) 12:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Inconsistence
This article is a list of notable Internet phenomena, which have been discussed in reliable sources. It is not simply for things that you believe are well-known.

How a meme can be discussed using a reliable source?. I don't think that it's possible to obtain a reliable source to say what is a meme and what is not. Or reliable source must be somethingawful, 4chan and (if was stolen of) Ebaumsworld. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.73.30.108 (talk) 22:39, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

A reliable source, in the case of this article, as stated by at least one or two senior editors in the history of Wikipedia, and as defined in WP:V, would be a major (see: non-internet) Media or News outlet, such as the New York Times or CNN. Rautenkranzmt (talk) 12:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. A meme's success is subjective. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SKiPMacD (talk • contribs) 17:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Pork and beans?
Many watchers of this article probably know me as they meanie that deletes stuff (stuff that isn't properly sources as being a phenomenon, versus "stuff that I think is cool." That said, I wonder if it's worth mentioning Weezer's video for Pork and Beans, since it revolves around Internet phenomena...though perhaps it would be most appropriate to add Pork and Beans (song) to the See also section... OhNo itsJamie Talk 22:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe I have found reliable sourcing (as defined by WP:V) in both an MTV News article, as well as an article in the business section of the Minneapolis Star Tribune. As such, it should be rather safe to add the video. Rautenkranzmt (talk) 12:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Cloverfield? Are other ARGs notable too?
Yes, I know we have a source that claims it to be an internet phenomena, but is it REALLY notable? I mean, it did have a large following, but wouldn't that make I Love Bees notable? Or the Dark Knight advertising? The Lost Experience? The Year Zero game? CahalanesDunmanway (talk) 16:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree that one is a bit sketchy. Snakes on a Plane easily qualifies as an Internet phenom of that nature. Cloverfield is a better example of Viral marketing along the lines of The Blair Witch Project. OhNo itsJamie  Talk 17:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Zelda CD-i Games
Youtube started making fun of these games, and then it was taken to the extreme, and now the horrible animation is known everywhere. It defintily counts as an internet phenomenon under the gaming category. Link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zelda's_Adventure. Genixpro (talk) 02:57, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Caramelldansen
The dance parody videos featuring anime/video game characters rocking side to side with their hands posed on top of their heads like ears(?) with the song playing in the background by the Swedish pop group Caramell

Not sure if it deserves a link here or not back to that page maybe. Mcnichoj (talk) 08:10, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it should be, too. There are many many parodies about this dance on youtube. Volcott (talk) 14:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not without a source indicating that it's a phenom. OhNo itsJamie Talk 14:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Counts its own article? Here Volcott (talk) 23:06, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Falcon Punch
I really feel the Falcon Punch needs to be on the list. It's spawned many YouTube Poop videos, and due to it, many people started worshipping Captain Falcon like Chuck Norris.

Link to the video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw

Dilophosaurus Rex —Preceding comment was added at 11:31, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Not without a source indicating that it's a phenom. OhNo itsJamie Talk 14:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Edgar's Fall (La caída de Edgar) and ¿Por qué no te callas?
What about the mexican boy? He caught many attention on the internet for its fall and the parodies associated to the video. Also he did a tv commercial resembling the original fall, and also he was interviewed on tv about the video spreading on the internet. It should at least be mentioned on the page. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b89CnP0Iq30 <- the original video. It has over 8 million of visits article Also, I think the "¿Por qué no te callas?" phrase should be mentioned here, too. It was the spanish king telling the venezolan president to shut up on the Iberoamerica summit. There is an official song, ringtones and a domain registration (porquenotecallas.com) saying the popularity of the phrase. article

Volcott (talk) 23:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Elektronik Supersonik
Should Zladko "Zlad!" Vladcik not be added to the Music list? This fictional character of the equally fictional nation of Molvanîa has become a kind of Internet phenomenon since 2003.

Elektronik Supersonik

--Skaravageur (talk) 14:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Angry German Kid
Angry German Kid — A German boy becomes very angry while playing Unreal Tournament

Bit misleading as it apparently was all acted out and that was just one segment of the whole series. (source) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.78.254.21 (talk) 08:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I herd u liek mudkipz
Seriously who doesn't? This should have been on here eon8 ago.159.92.57.11 (talk) 18:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, yes...this page needz moar mudk1pz!!!1!! --SKiPMacD (talk) 17:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Way moar mudkipz. 24.226.77.23 (talk) 02:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Shoes, Street Magic, and possibly Muffins
liamklyesullivan's Shoes should be on this list. I remember it was all the talk at my school when it came out. Muffins should MIGHT be on this lift, also a work of liamkylesullivan. Also, the David Blaine's street magic parody, which was very big and very funny.

--Harvey &quot;Two-Face&quot; Dent (talk) 16:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)