Talk:List of Internet phenomena/Archive 8

Just add Joke SoCool from thailand
Another great Internet phenomena from thailand with Chabu,Bucha,Brachow(God) in Thailand —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.11.36.208 (talk) 12:23, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * WP:V, WP:RS. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Klay World
This is a very large Internet series, like Neroticaly Yours. Itshould have its own article. It is posted on mainly 2 websites. They are Newgrounds, and KnoxsKorner. It made by Robert Leon Benfer, who goes by the name Knox. It has become very successful, it even has its own movie, which is listed in the article List of stop-motion films. It was going to have its own article, but was chosen not to be one. There is possibly going to be a sequel to the movie, and a different one called "Lakeside Ghost".


 * WP:SOURCES, WP:SIGN. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:28, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Anti Clinton Ad
I think this article shuold enclude at least somthing about that. It was on internet and talked at on the news many time.
 * Which one, of the many "anti-Clinton adverts"? And can you prove its WP:NOTABILITY? --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Milk and Cereal
There's the VT finest milk and cereal webcam


 * Point? Argument? Proposition? --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

abdul traya?
i am suprised that abdul traya is on this site?


 * WP:V, WP:SIGN. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:26, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

"Shorter FOO"
The internet tradition which launched the phrase "I am aware of all internet traditions" was "Shorter FOO"--e.g., "Shorter Ann Coulter", "Shorter George Bush"--in which a longer statement by FOO is linked and summarized in a clever, extremely unflattering, though preferably not completely unfair, way.

But does it make sense to list this type of stylized discourse here? Does this risk turning this page into a glossary, or worse a list of catchphrases ("fisk", "and a pony", "Friedman Unit"), or, worst, of bad rhetorical habits ("Barry HUSSEIN OSAMA")?


 * Would you mind proving its WP:NOTABILITY and verifiability? And WP:SIGN your posts. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:26, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Hot Tamale
It's an animation like Badger badger badger http://www.macbrosplace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/hot-tamale.swf


 * non-notable, and WP:SIGN your posts. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:21, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

mr. t versus everything
I'm surprised to see that the mr. t vs pages aren't mentioned here. there are so many of them. They've been around for quite a while too.

Do you mean stuff like Mr. T against Chuck Norris? -zxcvbnmalex™


 * non-notable. Wikipedia cannot include details of every single meme. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Portal
How has nobody mentioned 'The cake is a lie' yet? That's freaking everywhere! Gadoink4 (talk) 02:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not as widespread as other memes on this list. --M ASEM (t) 14:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Being "everywhere" does not necessarily make it WP:NOTABLE and Verifiable. And "everywhere" would be an over-generalization; it's not in my car boot, for one, nor in my car radiator. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Moskau
For some reason, Moskau has been excluded from this list. 24.250.3.55 (talk) 02:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Unverifiable as a meme. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

zonday does not move away...
from the mic in order to avoid feedback as you incorrectly claim. he does it in order to avoid having breathing sound on the recording. there is no speaker in the room that could cause feedback. he's got the playback in his headphones as one clearly can see.

wikipedia has a weird attitude towards this whole REALIABLE SOURCES stuff... things that get a lot of traffic on the internet is notable... why is it that just cause some clueless dude at a paper writes about a meme, it's notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.210.119.28 (talk) 20:52, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In reply, this is merely enforcement of policy, to prevent false information to be placed on Wikipedia. Rules are rules, and they are enforced and followed for a good reason. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and it also prevents WP:SYNTHESIS and WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Will it Blend?
Can we put this into the advertising section? 213.166.17.19 (talk) 10:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Non-notable. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Okkusenman
Too many youtube vids to count! Can we add it here on music? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.236.120.38 (talk) 03:02, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Non-notable. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Billy Mays?
He's recently become a meme, we should add him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.61.90.8 (talk) 16:54, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * non-notable and unverifiable. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:13, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

CARMEN WINSTEAD
there is a popular urban ledgend of a girl named carmen winstead that originated from myspace and later spread into chain e-mails and texts. the story is something along the lines of this:

There is a girl named carmen who during a fire drill is pushed down a sewer by a group of 'popular' girls trying to embarass her. when she didnt resurface the girls called the police. the police fished carmens body from the sewer finding that she had broken her neck on the ladder. the girls told everyone that she fell, they belived them. later on a 16 yr old boy got a text telling this story and decided not to repost it. later when the boy was taking a shower he heard a girl laughing and rushed to repost the message. but it was too late. that night, the boys mother ran to his room after hearing strange noises and didnt find him in his bed. months later, police found the boy in a sewer with a broken neck and the flesh peeled from his face.

the chain e-mail and text claims that if you do not send the story to everyone on your list, carmen will come after you. the e-mail claims that you can even google her name and find that the story is true,which is probably what you are doing right now. although, after a bit of research it was discovered that no news of any stories even remotely similar to the one told above have been found in any news stations or papers and that there have been no reports of any dead teenagers found in the sewer ever. so whatever they are telling you in the chain letters or my space posts should be marked as junk as it is just a waste of time and probably an escuse for teenage girls to make more freinds on their myspace. dont beleive what theyre telling you in these fake posts.


 * A note to these IP editors: please be sure to use proper Wiki syntax, such as creating a new header for each topic post, and to sign your posts. Oh, and for the above, non-notable and unverifiable. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:13, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Dragon Ball Z: It's Over 9000!!!!!
In the English Dragon Ball Z episode 21, Ocean dub I think:

Nappa: "Vegeta, What does the scouter say about his power level?" Vegeta: "It's Over 9000!!!!!" Nappa: "What?! 9000?! There's no way that can be right. Can it?"

Why isn't this one here? It's had millions of views and was a huge fad. It was actually a mistranslation and was supposed to be Over 8000. 68.111.198.244 (talk) 03:04, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Non-notable. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:07, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Angry German Kid
Could there please be a page about the Angry German Kid? --116.240.209.91 (talk) 12:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Pleading won't make it WP:NOTABLE. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:17, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah true, but there have been countless of countless of parodies about this kid and it's pretty much an internet phenemenom and such, and there actually is a reason as to why he made the video. i like agk and i am not trying to plead about an article or anything i'm just saying i feel he deserve one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.59.175.40 (talk) 23:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

United Breaks Guitars
Found something that could be added to the page...it's everywhere now. Was posted July 6th and already has 2.1 million views so far. Someone else could research it, and add the article.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Draconiator (talk • contribs) 01:05, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Needs evidence of being a meme - likely this is more a popular video and likely can have its own page, but it needs a source to say its a meme. --M ASEM (t) 01:13, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Nobody's Watching
Isnt anyone gona mention Nobody's Watching a failed tv pilot that was uploaded on to YouTube and now has its own website and myspace profile.
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Pokemonusafan
UFO appears in Elizabeth, NJ. backhouse Mike Get it Right Phenomena —Preceding unsigned comment added by Applereviewerusa (talk • contribs) 19:13, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:RS, WP:N, WP:V. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 08:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Potter Puppet Pals
One of the most famous series ever -zxcvbnmalex™
 * QUOTE: "most famous series ever" - Avoid peacock terms, Citation needed. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 08:26, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

More memes can be added
There are many things that can be added here:

omnomnomnom.com

demotivational posters (this one is a big meme), many of which come from despair.com, but people may often make their own using a motivational poster maker

"i think halo is a pretty cool guy. eh kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything" was most likely first posted by Anonymous on 4chan, according to the encyclopedia dramatica. here is a picture

interior crocodile aligator. less well known, but the audio is from part of a rap by Chip Tha Ripper

shoop da woop (do we know if it's spelled "woop" or "whoop"?) this meme really must be added on the list, as it's one of the classic memes. its origin is probably from 4chan, and here is a possible explanation from a blogger

the lolwut pear

the Youtube video "Message to Scientology", by Church0fScientology, in which Anonymous uses a synth voice in a video to announce its decision to destroy Scientology "For the good of your followers, for the good of mankind, and for our own enjoyment"

Youtube poop is a meme, but i wouldn't know where to site it.

"This is SPARTA!!" a quote from the movie "300," which inspired thousands of facebook users to join a group called “Everyone write ‘This is Sparta!’ on your AP tests.”

Pedobear

Eli Porter - Surely a youtube and meme legend? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.92.76 (talk) 21:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

- - - - - - -

I also don't quite understand why Lemon Demon is listed as a meme. They seem just like any other band (except that they got famous through the internet), and I have never seen them used as an in-joke, unlike other memes.

And in the intro, it should be mentioned that the term "internet phenomena" is often shortened to the word "meme"

Iterate (talk) 04:34, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Consider using Verifiable sources which can prove WP:NOTABILITY. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 05:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and also, QUOTE: "thousands of facebook users" - Avoid weasel words. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 08:29, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Katawa Shoujo
Would this classify as an internet phenomenom for the games section? - .:. Jigsy .:. (talk) 02:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:RS, WP:N, WP:V. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 08:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Fuck Yeah Seaking!
Should be added for its viral status on 4chan


 * Bottom of talk page. And WP:RS, WP:N, WP:V, WP:SIGN. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 08:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Rant about pleading and begging on this talk page
To all prospective editors: Wikipedia is WP:NOT an infinite repository of information; we cannot mention every single puff piece on the internet as there are obvious limitations and restrictions, and thus are against WP policy. Memes must be proven of WP:NOTABILITY, using WP:RELIABLE SOURCES that are WP:VERIFIABLE. Adding a request, plead or begging here will not have any change on the article; you must be able to prove notability if you intend on making a contribution to this specific article. Remember, the WP:BURDEN of finding sources is on you, as the contributor, not on me, or any other editor. We are not your slaves, nor are we paid for this, we all have lives, wives, girlfriends and university degrees to tend to, and so do not have the willpower to assist in finding sources for internet memes. Contributors are required to find credible sources on your own. Also, new additions to this talk page must be placed at the bottom, and you must remember to WP:SIGN your posts. Note also that WP:PEACOCK terms and WP:WEASEL words in your "plead" do not make them appear "more important", rather it makes them all the more less credible; be sure to only mention facts, as Wikipedia is built on facts. Regards, --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 08:56, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

A red paperclip
Here I added the red paperclip story into the article, but it got removed allegedly based on it not being a meme. This article is about "Internet phenomena". The guy got a Guinness world record by doing internet transactions and got covered by countless blogs, websites and mainstream media. How is he not an internet phenomenon? --uKER (talk) 13:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

BTW, I'd say 90% of the items listed under "Websites" are more questionable than this one. Also, Brokeback Mountain an internet phenomenon? What gives? --uKER (talk) 13:49, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The idea of these internet phenomena are that they not only spread widely but then become memes on which other user-created content is built on. There's no question that One Red Paperclip was noteworthy and needs an article of its own, but it's not something that had the same viral nature as other things on this list. That said, there are probably a few other things on this list that need pruning. --M ASEM  (t) 14:02, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * If that is the case, maybe we should clarify the criterion by which something becomes worth listing here and do the cleanup to establish the idea. --uKER (talk) 14:09, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Japanese Internet memes
Some of these are popping up a lot around YouTube and Nico Nico Douga, which can lead viewers to lesser-known ones and could gain more attention to people outside of Japan. Should this list include a section about several Japanese Internet memes like these below?


 * Hatsune Miku (初音ミク) - a vocaloid by Yamaha widely used on Nico Nico Douga and YouTube. Often used in saying "La" at every note of an instrumental song (most notably video game music), as well as vocal songs, whether original or not.
 * Yaranaika (やらないか) - a one-shot homoerotic manga by Junichi Yamakawa (山川純一) first published in a manga supplement of the gay magazine Barazoku in 1987. The short manga is a famous meme on the internet (Japanese internet forums especially), largely considered the representative work of Yamakawa and responsible for the revived popularity in his works.Source
 * Hikkoshi Baba (騒音おばさん) - a woman who makes a lot of loud noise with a lot of things. From yelling while using a carpet beater to playing loud music with a boombox.
 * Yukkuris (ゆっくり) - Click here for more info.
 * [MAD] - a series of music videos similar to YouTube Poop, but with several words and sounds from different videos played at every beat of a song. Here are some examples:


 * Shuzo Matsuoka (松岡修造) - a series of [MAD] music videos showing a former tennis player advertising a deodorant while shouting "Shu!". Sometimes he tells viewers to never give up while complaining a lot.
 * Ichiro Laser Beam - a series of [MAD] music videos showing Ichiro Suzuki, a Major League Baseball outfielder for the Seattle Mariners, throwing a baseball as a mass-exploding laser beam.
 * Ronald McDonald Insanity - a series of [MAD] music videos showing the Japanese McDonald's commercials cut and remixed. The first one noticed by English-speaking regions.
 * Airmoto (エア本さん / 必須アモト酸) - a series of [MAD] music videos showing a famous Japanese actress and a member of a Japanese cult religious sorority from Nico Nico Douga.

There are several others out there, but I don't know their names. Parrothead1983 (talk) 00:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Unless there's sufficient information in English to discuss them, they should not be here - this is en.wiki. --M ASEM (t) 02:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * @Parrothead, you will need WP:RS to ensure WP:V. You must also prove WP:N. @Masem, there is no such rule as "en for en". --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 07:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, just in case you're wondering, the relevant policy is WP:NONENG. Non-English sources are permitted on EN Wiki, and it is not specifically encouraged that all citations must be in English. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 07:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

What What (In the Butt)
Seems like the What What (In the Butt) video should be added to the "videos" section of this article. It was a hugely popular viral video and created a fan following. It's listed on YouTube as being one of the Most Discussed videos of all time, it currently has around 23 million downloads, it has received a ton of press, and it was even featured on an episode of South Park where the plot of the episode revolved around notworthy/famous viral videos. There are a bunch of reliable sources that call the video a "sensation", "a perfectly executed viral conspiracy", "a smash hit that circulated around the world via the internet", etc.. Can someone get it listed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.229.214.55 (talk) 23:03, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia?
Does Wikipedia count as an internet meme (such as CITATION NEEDED quotes)? It is almost always referenced in pop culture; such as 9000! anonymous wikis across the web. Plus I think Wikipedia is pretty notable, if not... Anyway I'm not reffering to the wiki itself as an internet meme, more as an internet phenomenon. TY Kausill 10:59, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * wikipedia is not a word for all wikis. saying wikipedia is an internet phenomenon seems a bit dubious. it is not a source of internet memes but does have an internet culture of it's own. if including wikipedia creates a slippery slope then it might be best to remove it. encyclopedia dramatica would be a better candidate.Some thing (talk) 18:43, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it would. Kausill 03:12, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

You missed The Laser Collection and Pedobear
The Laser Collection should be in the animation category. Pedobear should be in the animals category. Mudkipz should be in the gaming category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.204.193.151 (talk) 04:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * See the FAQ. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 04:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Wedding Dance Down the Aisle
I think this video surely qualifies for the status of an Internet phenomena video at this point.

http://snarkfood.com/wedding-dance-down-the-aisle-video-makes-bride-groom-instant-internet-celebrities/

L. A. Vess 01:55, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Not without a reliable source describing it as a phenomenon (snarkfood does not meet reliable source criteria, as it is a non-notable blog). See note at top of page. OhNo itsJamie Talk 02:06, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


 * just because a video is popular does not make it a phenomenon. has it caused a cultural response? Some thing (talk) 19:49, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Definately should be filed under Advertising. -NiX —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.216.0.147 (talk) 07:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Definitely a baseless argument. Read the above FAQ. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 08:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Stop deleting things without their own article
Can people please stop deleting things from this page just because they don't have their own article? Reliable references establish notability. The fact they they have or have not a separate article on wikipedia is totally irrelevant. <>Multi-Xfer<> (talk) 00:45, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

How about adding Tourettes Guy?
Can't he at least appear on the list? Since, after all, he was too funny to be allowed to have his own Wikipedia article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.248.75.30 (talk) 05:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree, he should be on here. He's just as legitimate as the others in the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.210.28 (talk) 07:44, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Just look at how many videos the Tourettes Guy has! We should add it to the list.24.36.113.128 (talk) 01:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

NPOV
It seems to me that many of the descriptions of memes seem to be stating that they are either: humorous, dumb or often parodied. I think that we should fix this article to remove all instances of POV. Kausill 06:48, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Just in case you're wondering, the tag is there because the neutrality of this article is really serious. Kausill 06:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Symbol support vote.svgAgree: remove all non-NPOV terms. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 06:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree also. <>Multi-Xfer<> (talk) 22:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC)


 * If particular entries need improvement then please either improve them or tag the detail in question. Placing an indiscriminate tag upon the entire article is not an improvement. Colonel Warden (talk) 08:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The whole article is in serious disrepair but regardless of whether or not there is a tag I think we'll just fix this article. Hopefully there will be no need for a tag by the end. Kausill 12:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Slap Chop Remix
I can't add this, but this should be in the article as it has sources. It originally started on Youtube by DJ Steve Porter. After about 3 million views, Square One Entertainment used it as their new infomercial. It now has aprox. four million six hundread thousand views since being uploaded on Youtube in April 2009. It has it own website for crying out loud. TMZ even reported this on their page. 24.36.113.128 (talk) 01:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * See the FAQ. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 08:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It is mentioned several times on Wikipedia, remember. Kausill 12:26, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

you guys forgot sneezing panda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.179.203.253 (talk) 22:55, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * See the FAQ; and no, us guys did not "forget" sneezing panda. People, stop writing that we "missed" or "forgot" something; WP:N, WP:RS, WP:V, WP:OR. RTFM or STFU; STFU or GTFO. In my honest words, if it does not meet WP:RS, then we honestly don't care. Sorry for being too abrupt, but after a myriad of similar questions (despite the creation of a FAQ which doesn't appear to be working), I just don't seem to be producing endorphins anymore. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 07:48, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Then have a cup of tea and relax. The world won't end if you aren't here to protect the article from incursions.  Powers T 19:50, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Animator .vs Animation
Animator .vs Animation should be there! in the Games! it is so funny and complex at the same time. --Loser State (talk) 16:55, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Please read the FAQ.  Kyle  1278  18:09, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Boxxy History
I'm having a hard time finding the history of the talk pages and deletion discussions for the redirected article. Am I looking in the wrong places or did the frustration over what looks like a bunch of shenanigans on the deletion log cause the information to not be preserved? There are a few reliable sources but I would like to see what was and was not gone over. Anyone able to point me in the right direction?Cptnono (talk) 06:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See its AFD for why it was deleted and then replaced with a redirect. --M ASEM (t) 06:04, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Awesome. I was poking around and couldn't find it! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.Cptnono (talk) 06:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The article really should be created. a breakdown of 4chan is pretty darn notable. --Rockstone (talk) 02:53, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * See the FAQ. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 02:59, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Still appears more notable. Why does the starwar's kid have his own article?! --Rockstone (talk) 14:18, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * There are a couple decent sources on this one. There are also some garbage ones. It looks some editors didn't want to deal with it or the silliness actually got into Wikipedia as well.Cptnono (talk) 15:19, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This was one of the few times 4Chan actually failed to get what they needed, no one is 100% sure of her age or location or even her full name. Hmm... --Rockstone (talk) 15:28, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That is disputed but some of the info is in reliable sources (plenty of not) and might be "outing" if it was included.Cptnono (talk) 15:30, 22 August 2009 (UTC) Er... I honestly meant to put "some". That changes the whole meaning of the sentence. Whatever, this is my revised opinion. D'oh.Cptnono (talk)

Raptor Jesus?
Where is raptor jesus? Their is a redirect to raptor jesus but the section does not contain him? Why isn't our Lord acknowledged? C6541 (T↔C)  01:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Because your lord does not meet WP:N, WP:V and WP:RS. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 08:28, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * C6541 does have a good point, though -- if there's a redirect from Raptor Jesus to this page, it should be mentioned here somewhere. Powers T 13:51, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:Miscellany for deletion? It's about time? Wait, that should be WP:Redirects for discussion, my bad... --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 00:10, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Feel free to nominate it, but either way people searching for Raptor Jesus shouldn't get sent to a list that doesn't mention a thing about it. Powers T 00:13, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

The Banana Article
Can you remake the Dancing Banana article and the animation because it's PBJ time! PBJ jelly time! Wayya!Wayya! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.147.66 (talk) 23:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 *  No . --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 00:11, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Charlie the Unicorn
I believe Charlie the Unicorn is notable. -johnnylurg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.9.60.183 (talk) 04:30, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Added. Clem (talk) 01:32, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * We need a reliable source (not youtube, for sure) that describes this as a internet meme or phenomena. --M ASEM  (t) 01:37, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure that several news sources have identified Charlie as a viral video. In fact, I think it's a lot more popular than stuff like Tyson. I think WP:IAR applies here. Kausill 13:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you have misinterpreted WP:IAR in regards to this situation; WP:RS still applies here. If it has been proven that it is viral, then WP:N is justified. That only leaves WP:RS that is WP:V (i.e. not a "blogspot" post; rather, an article by a more established source, perhaps Slashdot, Cnet, New York Times, etc), which shouldn't be hard to fulfil. Someone should be WP:BOLD in searching for sources. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 13:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree with you. This place needs a big clean up too. Kausill 10:49, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * But surely, if Charlie The Unicorn was featured in a Weezer video clip then along with other YouTube celebs I think it's pretty damn notable. Thanks. Kausill 10:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Re-added with reference to established source. BenoitRen (talk) 23:04, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You saved the world. Kausill (Talk) (Contribs) 15:50, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Angry german kid
Angry german kid (aka leopold) was filmed by his dad while playing a computer game however when the game dosen't lean in his favorso he chucks a spaz and smashes his keyboard. Some people say that it was staged and was to show what graphic video games can do to people. In return users have made edited videos of angry german kid like "angry german kid gets mauled by the smurfs" or "angry german kid has a nightmare". after leopold's dad gave the video to a local news company they showed it on air and people started to think he was undergoing therapy. Because of the misunderstanding leopold stoped making videos for a year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.137.130 (talk) 18:45, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Find a source. Powers T 12:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Boscocat2008
this is an unknown person on youtube, and as you can see, i've named my account after him... he makes comediees and music videos... i believe he should be given a chance to become something
 * WP:V, WP:RS, WP:N. Also, possible WP:COI. And finally, WP:SIGN. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 01:05, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I Set My Friends On Fire
I Set My Friends On Fire should be added to the "Music" section. They became famous through MySpace with the screamo "Crank That" which is all over the internet today. - 173.169.157.233 (talk) 17:12, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Reference to verify notability as a meme? --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 06:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

So what exactly is the point of the page?
It seems like internet phenomena that become big enough for reputable sources to take note would present a poor sampling of the overall body and content of memes in general. However, in light of notability, sourcing, and other wikipedia conventions, total inclusiveness is totally infeasible. So just what is this page trying to accomplish? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.145.129.47 (talk) 01:59, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This list is not aimed at being an exhaustive list of memes (which would be impossible), just a mention of a number which are notable enough to have sources written about them. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 08:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * We are documenting memes and other phenomena that have gained notice outside of the internet - mainstream media for example. Sure we could use something like KnowYourMeme.com as a source, but that still considered a source within the bounds of the internet. The problem with that is that such memes can propagate themselves due to the viral nature of the internet, but many of these blossom and fade with not a blip on the radar outside of it. We're looking for things like national newspapers, mainstream television coverage, and the like, to tell us when the meme has at least surfaced, if not stayed afloat, of what the rest of the world sees from the internet subculture. That is what makes these memes notable is their recognition from non-Internet-related sources. --M ASEM  (t) 15:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Just like internet porn, if it is only online it won't make it on Wikipedia. I would like to see more people looking for RS so maybe instead of "see the FAQ which is worded like you are a damn moron" there should be something copy and pasted in like "hey, go find some sources from a google news search than try again" or maybe even trying it yourself, Benlisquare. I'm sure it is annoying playing gate keeper but if you are going to put yourself in the way of trolls you might as well do it right or stop trying. Realistically, you might as well just sit back and revert instead of spending your time essentially telling people to go away since it accomplishes the same thing. That's criticism from just looking at the talk page so my criticism (which I promise is meant to be constructive) might be off.
 * Further more, please keep in mind that notability requirements do not limit the content of articles (WP:N) so the sourcing guidelines for verifiability are not nearly as stringent as might be currently asked for. There is no reason we can't have more unwikilinked subjects in this list as long as an eye is kept out for bloat and recentism. We might as well delete the whole thing if the focus is not to let Wikipedia turn into an indiscriminate collection of information. A category could easily take its place.Cptnono (talk) 11:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Shoop da Whoop?
Is Shoop da Whoop really not on here? I think it's one of the biggest memes out there and maybe used to have an article or link on here but definitely doesn't now. Shouldn't someone add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwakin21 (talk • contribs) 01:45, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * See FAQ. And WP:SIGN your posts. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 09:29, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Bot archiving of talk page
Interval should be changed to every 3 or 4 months... a monthly archive to a new page is very inefficient, e.g. July 2009 is only 30,327 bytes while June 2009 is only 2,859 bytes. Taking into account that talk page traffic varies from time to time, 3 or 4 months should be enough to reduce the disparity between archive pages and reduce the unnecessary number of archive pages we have for this talk page. Consider archives for pages like Barack Obama and they run up to the hundreds of KBs, example being Talk:Barack Obama/Archive 58 at 154,621 bytes. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 13:45, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

LOLwut Pear
Certainly very notable. I believe it should be added. 98.200.56.74 (talk) 18:08, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Can you cite references from reliable sources? We need suitable references to add new items. Btw new sections conventionally go at the bottom of the page, not the top. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 18:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

David Hasselhoff?
Back in 2005, "The Hoff" was huge.

Under the wikipedia entry for David Hasselhoff, it says - "Hasselhoff has also become something of an Internet phenomenon, mostly as a subject of fun. Numerous websites have appeared and there is currently a campaign to get him a number one single in the UK." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.49.173.174 (talk) 03:36, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Be WP:BOLD and go find some sources for it that are verifiable. (Heck, I wonder, do any of these people actually read the replies? or do they just post the one message and leave it, expecting someone else to do something...) --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 11:23, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

The Amazing Horse
The amazing horse should be among the animals: http://weebls-stuff.com/toons/Amazing+Horse/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.30.234.150 (talk) 21:49, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, just find some reliable sources. Powers T 14:32, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

"BOOM, Headshot!"/FPS Doug
I feel like this is notable enough for inclusion. It's been referenced countless times on television and in videogame culture. Obviously, it comes from Counter-Stike. --70.184.239.162 (talk) 08:39, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * See the FAQ, especially the part regarding sources. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 11:21, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Oolong (rabbit)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.109.115.2 (talk • contribs) 20:40, 25 November 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oolong_(rabbit)

Too large -> Split
This article is a gigantic clusterfuck that needs to be split into several articles. 76.85.196.138 (talk) 05:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

In the future it will be about as silly as having a single article describing all non-internet phenomena.

Biased

 * The article is a bit biased! Only YouTube users, bloggers and MySpace users are included. There certainly are people that are forum celebrities (forum = message board). There are countries where forums are more important than YouTube, Facebook and MySpace. 78.130.136.199 (talk) 14:43, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you have any specific examples with reiable sources to back them up

Charlie Bit My Finger
Is there an article on Wikipedia about this video? I'm interested in creating one.  The left orium  17:04, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Jpmcruiser (talk) 21:00, 21 December 2009 (UTC) It already has an article.

Organization and Cleanup
As it stands right now, the sections are misleading and unorganized. Phenomena should be listed alphabetically and in the section most appropriate. For example, a picture that has become a meme should be listed under "Images," yet the person featured in it (whose name is not known) is listed under "People", even though the image itself is what's important. That's currently the case with one entry, and I'm planning on fixing that and doing some overall cleanup of various sections. If anyone wants to weigh in or help out I'd appreciate it. Friginator (talk) 00:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Also, the "Websites" section should be removed, in my opinion. Many of the memes/phenomena are websites to begin with, and I can't imagine a way to properly source any particular website for inclusion, as the list is essentially "websites that are important on the internet". The whole thing seems redundant to me, so I'm going to go ahead and remove it. However, a list of hoax/satirical websites (Flying Spaghetti Monster, Bert is Evil, Bonsai Kitten, etc.), might be worth including with proper citations. Friginator (talk) 02:36, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a difference between websites that propigate memes (4chan) and websites that are memes (not just one single page or character, but the entirity of stuff there) like Homestar Runner or Weebls. Unless we can figure a better way to classify those later parts, which I'm not against. But there are meme websites, and there is some listed that should be removed. --M ASEM  (t) 02:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * In that case, I don't think we should include websites simply because they create memes. Like I said, a list of gag sites like the Flying Spaghetti Monster would be fine. But right now the article lists sites like Facebook and Twitter, neither of which even have anything to do with memes. The section is basically a list of popular websites. Weebls and Homestar Runner wouldn't count because they both include a large, varied amount of content, rather than one central video, game, image, joke, theme, etc. An individual part of one of those websites could be a meme, but when the website is more than one particular example of a meme, it can't be a meme itself. For example, YouTube is not a meme, but various videos on YouTube are. Friginator (talk) 03:29, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. All of the websites mentioned in that section have easily verifiable popularity, but I think it's inaccurate to describe the websites as "Internet phenomena" per se. I'm of the understanding that "List of Internet Phenomena" can be translated in Wiki-terms to "List of Internet-based memes which have been described as "phenomenons" or similar by one or more reliable sources." OhNo itsJamie  Talk 04:26, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't see too much of a problem with this. then again, thats my opinion. if necessary, though, i agree in that things like facebook and twitter should be removed first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpmcruiser (talk • contribs) 03:41, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Regarding the talk on Facebook, note that the title of the article is not List of Internet memes, but rather List of Internet phenomena. The definition of "phenomena" is not synonymous with "meme". The "meme list" argument does not suffice. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 12:08, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

This page certainly needs to include Boxxy
Why is there no Boxxy in this Wikipedia page? I thought it was a respectable encyclopedia. I type "Boxxy" in the search box but I get redirected here and to my surprise, there is nothing about Boxxy here. What is up with that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.166.56.146 (talk) 14:53, 4 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Ha ha ha. "Respectable encyclopedia"? That is the exact reason we do not have such articles, without reliable sources. Nice one, tell us another. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 12:11, 21 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It is so cool to be ignored about an issue with the article... --201.166.56.146 (talk) 13:40, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't, she's a child. --Closedmouth (talk) 13:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes this page really needs to include boxxy eaven if she is a child its only her oline NIC and the moderators or what ever can keep it clean. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.215.235.73 (talk) 20:18, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. See edit summary for additional reasoning.Cptnono (talk) 22:12, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Follow-up: There is an Icelandic (or something like that) one out there somewhere. Added a couple more. The Metro one might be questionable but it isn't being used to make extraordinary claims.Cptnono (talk) 23:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


 * In depth Info on BoxxyBabee

http://boxxystory.blogspot.com/2009/01/rise-of-boxxy.html http://pursuingrandomness.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/boxxy-isnt-dead/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.127.165.250 (talk) 07:30, 10 December 2009 (UTC)


 * OT Comment: I am wondering why my earlier comment was removed by User:75.75.10.6. Was there a reason for this? --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 09:44, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Star Wars Kid Name Removal
The article Star Wars Kid asks for his name not to be included. I believe, that this should be adhered to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thompson.matthew (talk • contribs) 09:51, 21 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not censored, and intentionally covering up someone's real name when it's public knowledge is blatantly against policy. I'm not sure what those editors were thinking when they decided his name should be censored, but that's the last thing anyone should feel the need to adhere to. Friginator (talk) 21:49, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Would you mind putting his name in the Star Wars Kid article then. They are doing the opposite. Thompson.matthew (talk) 03:59, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Per WP:BLP, as the person was a minor when the event happened, and has since asked to keep his name out of it, we cannot assign the name unless they allow for us to do so, both here and at Star Wars Kid. --M ASEM  (t) 04:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Boxxy
I have recently been looking up boxxy on the net. Just seeing what happened.. She was happy on the net one day and then 3 weeks later there came up a video of her. From her class and she tryed not to pay attention to the camera. Then when her class mate videoed her the second time she said some lyrics to song and they pointed the camera to the other class mates. Personally i think it was a encoded message. Meaning she had to go underground.. but she still loves you. Boxxy was no where near anonymous. Long story short unless you guys want to read up on it. Boxxy released 3 videos on youtube for her gai online friends. People on a image hosting site called 4chan posted her photos on there massively, in hordes. Because she was a funny teenager. Boxxy was a hyper teenager who just innocently posted 3 videos without knowing how it would spark up. Well CBCR ( A anti boxxy group) Went into deep investigation on her to find out her real life details. Well..They did. Over the course of a week they found her phone number, address, Every account since 2005. They had cracked into it by using the lost password feature. There were reports of a man who did try to kill her, And many reports that she was under police protection. Google maps on her address showed that she had police cars by her house. There was a boxxy meet at her house and a video of it and several pictures. There was a blond lady who asked them to go away and that there aware of whats happening. Every picture of boxxy has been exposed on to the internet. And people even claiming her router name was "Hogwarts" According to rumor she was forced to move because of all the stalkers and flowers at her house. Along with people sitting there staring. This is a example of how dangerous the internet is. This was ridicules and showed how many pedos and hateful people are on the net. No law action was ever taken to my knowledge. But somebody needs to add in here somewhere that there was some other info as well.. Far from anonymous. Thanks. And btw im 16 and i just look up history on various people. I have always done it ;D i even know info that nobody else knows. Keeping to myself. Im not asking for her Information to be posted, Im asking for somebody to add in that she was stalked,tracked down and nearly hurt.But then again, This is your call.--Suffx (talk) 00:07, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No. It is the call of sources. Since notability is questionable there is not an article. So much info in thils list might be overboard. If it is not too much info, reliable sources disucssing the stalking need to be provided. Le tm eknow if you need more info on the ins and outs of this project.Cptnono (talk) 11:37, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I like turtles
The "I like turtles" kid should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.83.75.110 (talk) 17:27, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Why? Raekuul, bringer of Tropes (He does it without notability) 02:06, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

mudkipz
Before I start some sort of edit war over this (having just come here from Lamest), I just want to make sure I understand something. "so i herd u leik mudkipz" is listed here as being an animation-inspired meme. However, I would like to present to my fellow editors the idea that the mudkipz meme should be listed as a gaming meme, along the lines of the "LET ME SHOW YOU MY POKEYMANS" lolcat, as mudkips, as well as all other Pokemon, originate from a series of video games rather than some sort of animation. If the original line that the anon from 4chan was, in fact, referring to the animated works of the franchise, then the point is moot (pardon the pun). If it is not, however, a reference to the animated works of the franchise, then I propose moving the mudkipz entry from animation to gaming. If there are any objectors, please speak now so that an edit war may be avoided. Raekuul, bringer of Tropes (He does it without notability) 02:06, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * According to the relevant articles, Mudkip premiered in Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire, which came out in 2002. The anime, on the other hand, started in 1997.  Thus, the mere fact that the original video game came before the anime is no help when trying to figure out whether the Mudkipz meme is based on the game or on the anime.  Powers T 02:37, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Except that the season of anime that Mudkip premiered in was, if I'm not mistaken, also the Ruby and Sapphire series, which means that Mudkip would not have debuted until November of 2002 at the very earliest (excluding an Early Bird Cameo in the Silver League finale), according to the list of Pokemon: Advanced episodes. Also, the List of Pokemon 241-260 page links to the mudkipz meme as a games phenomenon, not an animation phenom. We probably should be internally consistent. Raekuul, bringer of Tropes (He does it without notability) 03:40, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

LoTR!!!
I can't believe the One does not simply *insert word* in Mordor and its versions images haven't been listed! EerieNight (talk) 21:45, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't believe you haven't seen the FAQ! --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 01:45, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Animals?
Nobiiru, commonly known as LONGCAT, should be represented through this Wikipedia article. It is definitely more popular than a sizable portion of the entries here. Tacgnol, his ultimate enemy, is optional. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.199.64.64 (talk) 07:00, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * See FAQ. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 01:44, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Lemon Party
I guess if Goatse is on here, shouldn't Lemon Party also be on here? 24.113.65.101 (talk) 00:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Only if you can find a reliable source for it. Powers T 00:58, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Jpmcruiser (talk) 21:58, 21 December 2009 (UTC)It could be included since it is in the shock sites article here on wikipedia. I'll post some of the links from the refrences section that relate to lemon party, but I don't know how well these sources are. Check in case.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=18561912 http://web.archive.org/web/20080309165446/http://www.bestweekever.tv/tag/Lemon+Party http://www.maxim.com/movies/dvd-reviews/33821/30-rock-season-two.html http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1793801 http://www.moviefone.com/movie/superbad/26917/video/superbad-unscripted-clip-2/1956042

Hope this helps.

If this isn't good enough information, can somebody at least say? This isn't on the page.Jpmcruiser (talk) 03:46, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Those clips are simply parodies or acknowledgement of its existence, and as such, are not reliable sources for notability. OhNo itsJamie Talk 03:53, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

okay. Thanks anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.54.121 (talk) 14:04, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Kikkoman
Another one to add please Late 1999 or 2000 I think it was... he's even got an existing wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soy_Sauce_Warrior_Kikkoman Of course this list is going to just go on and on as time goes by.

99.23.76.145 (talk) 05:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

70.160.54.121 (talk) 14:08, 18 January 2010 (UTC)Here's a source for Kikkoman. Hope this works.

http://www.year2000.com/Details-249/kikkoman-sauce-soy.html

If I need a better source and/or need more, please let me know.

Is this source good enough?

Zlatina Savova
The most notable East European internet celebrities are Zlatina Savova (in Bulgarian: Златина Савова) and Fifi Rodriguez (sometimes written in Bulgarian as Фифи Родригес, which is a direct transliteration). Should this be included or this article is USA-centric? These two are not YouTube celebrities, but they are hugely popular in virtually every Bulgarian forum and even in some other East European forums. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.130.136.199 (talk) 13:10, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * See FAQ. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 01:44, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Woll Smoth
This originally began as a series of disruptive edits to the Wikipedia article on Will Smith where the image of Smith was replaced with another image showing him with reduced eyes and mouth. It has since gained in popularity throughout the web featuring other celebrities with shrunken eyes and mouth and the resulting mispronounciation often with the vowels replaced with "o"s. 98.22.106.131 (talk) 20:07, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * See FAQ. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 01:45, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

icanhascheezburger
icanhas cheesburger needs to be on here. it is quite good, and very well known. host of lolcats, loldogs, and FailBlog.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.91.159.34 (talk) 21:26, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I Can Has Cheezburger? is not really a phenomenon; it's a website that collects instances of a phenomenon. Powers T 15:51, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * There's a link to "I Can Has Cheeseburger?" under the "LOLcats" listing in 'images'. But the last poster is right, it's not really a meme itself. WTF? (talk) 15:39, 21 January 2010 (UTC)