Talk:List of Iyers/Archive 1

This section has been moved out of the article Iyer. as the Iyer article was too long and does not need to include the names of famous Iyers.

Merge?? The article Iyers is already too long and a lot of Information on socialand cultural practices and history of Iyers is yet to be updated.

I believe it is unnecessary to include an evergrowing list of Iyers in that section. Either this article be completely done away with or it be retained as a separate article.

Harishsubramanian 11:13, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I think Ramesh Krishnan/Ramanathan Krishnan names have not been included in the list. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.83.53.76 (talk • contribs) 07:50, 23 July 2006.

major corrections
as for as i know tamil actor vivek is not an iyer but a devar from madurai. upcooming director priya is a mudaliar and late actress soundarya (tamil, kannada and telugu) is a vaidiki brahmin. please don't include all the famous persons in the iyer list. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.251.188.10 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 11 August 2006.

as far as I know, Indra Nooyi pepsi CEO is an Iyengar!. Is it established she is an Iyer for sure?

Wikified
Wikified as part of the Wikification wikiproject! I formatted the external links, removed the merge tag as above, added an Overview section. JubalHarshaw 15:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Deletion
I am removing the delete tag. It can be a category and a list because a list is more complete as it contains items that don't have an article. It can also stimulate the creation of new articles. -THB 18:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Note to Wikipedia Admins:

This is not an honest article. This is the most untruthful piece of Junk on wikipedia.

It is NOT a fact that most NRIs are Brahmins. This is farthest from the truth. What is the justification for writing such nonsense.

It is a historic fact that Brahmins (Iyers) hassled the Dalits, kept them out of cities, kept them out of Temples, etc. Dalits were not allowed to cover themselves, there were restrictions on what they could wear, what they could work as, where they could live, etc. etc. all imposed by Brahmins. If there's a list of Brahmin achievers, that came at high cost to non-Brahmins whose self-respect was robbed. ONE of the major achievements of brahmins is that they made the Dalits address themselves disrespectfully for example a Dalit has to stay far away from a Brahmin while talking to him and address himself (the Dalit) in Derogatory terms. Why are these facts not part of this "INFO"??? Has Wikipedia been taken over by Iyers (brahmins). If Wikipedia wants to host such nonsensical casteist list, why not start with a List of Nazi achievers? OR put the truth talk about the good and bad about Brahmins. Do not give one sided info please.

Moved in here from the article
Note to Wikipedia Admins:

This is not an honest article. This is the most untruthful piece of Junk on wikipedia.

It is NOT a fact that most NRIs are Brahmins. This is farthest from the truth. What is the justification for writing such nonsense.

It is a historic fact that Brahmins (Iyers) hassled the Dalits, kept them out of cities, kept them out of Temples, etc. Dalits were not allowed to cover themselves, there were restrictions on what they could wear, what they could work as, where they could live, etc. etc. all imposed by Brahmins. If there's a list of Brahmin achievers, that came at high cost to non-Brahmins whose self-respect was robbed. ONE of the major achievements of brahmins is that they made the Dalits address themselves disrespectfully for example a Dalit has to stay far away from a Brahmin while talking to him and address himself (the Dalit) in Derogatory terms. Why are these facts not part of this "INFO"??? Has Wikipedia been taken over by Iyers (brahmins). If Wikipedia wants to host such nonsensical casteist list, why not start with a List of Nazi achievers? OR put the truth talk about the good and bad about Brahmins. Do not give one sided info please.

User:Manukarnika added the following paragraph to the article. I have no opinion to give on this, but it certainly does not belong in the article itself. Emeraude 21:24, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

SUCH a list is "nonsense", in casteless world, the dirty Indian casteism is raising its ugly head in the form of "list of iyers". If you really want to put out such a list, then you should include the list of Iyers who abused Dalits for thousands of years as well!!! Comeon guys grow up! Originally posted in article 09:01 27 May 2007 by User:Manukarnika

THIS IS, FOR MOST PART, A HONEST ARTICLE. I appeal to my fellow Wikipedians to provide more references. The person who seems to have made this appeal to Wikipedia admins makes points which are totally unrelated to the discussion about the usefulness of the article. Whether Iyers discriminated against Dalits is immaterial and even of these achievements came at a high cost to non-Brahmins they are achievements nevertheless.WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES SHOULD BE BASED ON FACTS, NOT ON OPINIONS.Ravichandar84 01:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Overview section
I have removed the overview section as it served no purpose other than promoting a certain point of view. The article on Iyers should be more than enough to explain who they are and why one might want to have a list of them. The best way to keep the list neutral is to refrain from any value statements, be they positive or negative. -- rimshots talk 10:40, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Articles for Deletion tag
Keep-- May I request the person who has affixed the 'Article for Deletion' tag to give a proper explanation of the reason/s that have led him to chose this article for deletion. I dont think improper formatting, unWikified article etc. are reasons valid enough to mandate this article for deletion. This article does not, in any way, kindle communal or casteist hatred of any sort.Besides there are articles on List of Parsis,etc.-Ravichandar84 01:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of edits
I had added some names to the list of Distinguished Iyers and added a note here. But my entire edits including the note has been undone without any note.

May be this is how it is done. I am out of this game. Even this note may be undone.

--Sankarrukku 04:56, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Removal of Links
Links to articles on anthropologist 'Ananthakrishna Iyer','Malayattoor Ramakrishnan','Sir P.S.Sivaswami Iyer' have been removed and the entry 'Mani Shankar Iyer' has been removed and the reason has been given as 'vanity'.I can underdstand how a link to an existing page can be construed as 'vanity'. -Ravichandar84 16:14, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I meant to revert the persistent inclusion of C-h-i-t-r-a R-a-m-a-n-a-t-h-a-n (see also ) ccwaters 00:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

NPOV
The page is full of obvious self-promotion. Tyrenius 11:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

This is a list of famous persons from a particular community. If anyone has a problem with a particular entry, he can always post in discussions. It has been done before.

In view of the photograph and description of Sankaracharya of Kanchi Mutt this tag seems justified.

Thanks.

--Sankarrukku 04:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, Sir CV Raman, Subramanya Chandrasekhar, Sir Mokshagundam Visvesvarayya, RK Narayan and Viswanathan Anand are internationally acclaimed individuals while Tyagaraja, Chembai,etc. are famous in India. Just because the list is too long it does not mean that it is FULL OF SELF-PROMOTION. In my opinion, most of them mentioned deserve to be there.-Ravichandar84 14:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

The laudatory reference to the Sankaracharya of Kanchi Mutt is not correct. He was one of the religious leaders of Tamil Nadu whose following was restricted to a section of the Iyer community. The person who has inserted this should give some reference to articles written by people who are not Iyers.

In the case of Ramana Mahirishi there is category in ODP with 17 sites. http://www.dmoz.org/Society/Religion_and_Spirituality/Hinduism/Gurus_and_Saints/Ramana_Maharshi/

--Sankarrukku 15:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The laudatory reference to the Sankaracharya of Kanchi Mutt is not correct. He was one of the religious leaders of Tamil Nadu whose following was restricted to a section of the Iyer community.


 * Well, Kanchi Paramacharya is regarded as one of the greatest Hindu saints of the 20th century.  MOST IYERS regard Him as a prophet and miracle-worker apart from being a great Yogi. It is ridiculous that this individual does not want articles written by members of a particular community to be regarded as reference enough. It seems obvious that the person above has a personal grudge against me and is doing such things to target me and nothing else. - Ravichandar84 13:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Number of unreferenced entries or entries without links to biography articles

Spiritual leaders:            0 out of 11 Scientists and Academicians:  1 out of 14 Journalists and Writers:      4 out of 20 Advocates and social activists:10 out of 13. Freedom Fighters:              1 out of 8 Sportspersons:                 0 out of 5 Artists and Musicians:        12 out of 43 Politicians and Administrators: 3 out of 15 Entertainmers:                 3 out of 20 Classical artists:             2 out of 4 Businessmen                    4 out of 11

It could be seen from these statistics that the entries in the article are all well-referenced and there is almost no self-promotion in the article. The NPOV tag was wrongly placed here and copuld be removed. -Ravichandar84 14:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

category entries


A

* Alladi Krishnaswamy Iyer

B

* Vidya Balan * Chembai * Subramanya Bharathi

C

* Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar * Cho Ramaswamy

H

* Hariharan (singer)

I

* C. P. Ramaswami Iyer * Sir P. S. Sivaswami Iyer * Pico Iyer * Raghavan N. Iyer

J

* Janaki Ramachandran * Jiddu Krishnamurti

K

* K. V. Krishna Iyer * Kalki Krishnamurthy * Chandrasekharendra Saraswati Kanchi Mahaswamigal * Kavita Subramaniam * Ramya Krishnan

L

* L. K. Ananthakrishna Iyer * R. K. Laxman * Palamadai S. Lokanathan

M

* Shankar Mahadevan * Mahalakshmi Iyer * Jagadguru Swami Sri Bharati Krishna Tirthaji Maharaja * Ramana Maharshi * Mani Ratnam * Mowni

N

* R. K. Narayan

P

* Siva Sri Paskarakurukkal * Patanjali Sastri

R

* R. Venkataraman * Rajagopala Chidambaram * Ramachandra Guha * Malayattoor Ramakrishnan * C. V. Raman * S. R. Ranganathan * Rappal Sangameswaraier Krishnan

S

* S. P. Balasubrahmanyam * Lakshmi Sahgal

S cont.

* Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan * Sathyamurthy * T. N. Seshan * Sheshadri Swamigal * Sir K. Seshadri Iyer * Sri Muralidhara Swamiji * Sri Sri Ravi Shankar * Subramanian Swamy * Subramaniya Siva * Suchitra Krishnamurthy * Swami Sivananda * M. S. Swaminathan * Arvind Swamy * Syama Sastri

T

* Thiagarajan Sadasivam * Tyāgarāja

U

* U. V. Swaminatha Iyer * Ulloor S. Parameswara Iyer

V

* V. V. S. Aiyar * Valangiman Sankaranarayana Srinivasa Sastri * Vanchinathan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bakasuprman (talk • contribs) 03:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

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