Talk:List of LGBT characters in modern written fiction/Archive 1

Renaming
Two questions: Aleta 02:51, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Shouldn't we rename this article to include lesbians explicitly?
 * 2) Should we include transgendered people characters in the list (and title), or should they be listed separately?

Categorising Fictional Characters
In Articles for deletion/List of fictional self-harmers (2nd nomination), a page of fictional characters was deleted because it would supposedly have to rely on editors' personal point of views, and how much is required to satisfy being on the list. As I raised in Articles for deletion/List of fictional self-harmers, the same arguments apply to many lists of fictional characters, such as those which label characters as being gay or bisexual.

Is there any distinction I am missing, or should we AfD this one too? Mdwh 00:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think there should be a problem if we can add references for them all. That way we're not relying on editors' POVs. -- Beloved freak  18:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Duane's Middle Kingdoms series
Herewiss, Freelorn, and Segnbora are all primary characters -- three of the "Tale of the Five" that's the other title for the series. Gaylactic Spectrum Awards 2003--SarekOfVulcan 01:43, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Criteria and sourcing
As suggested in the recent stalemated deletion discussion, this list does need the criteria for inclusion laid out at the top, and each entry should be sufficiently sourced (through the primary source or secondary ones, as appropriate for the particular entry).

I am going to give the criteria a go and begin the sourcing process, but I encourage others to participate ASAP. I would also ask the Reference Police to give us some time to bring the list up to speed before deleting anything, or at least move objectionable entries to this discussion page for future sourcing.

I am also copying the following comments from the AfD discussion as they apply to this issue. TAnthony 14:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
That was a killer debate, and I am grateful for it; I learned a lot about Wikipolicies and deletion criteria. (There are an awful lot of those out there.) I would suggest, before letting go the issue, that a fictional character can be categorized in this arena by 'definition' or by 'description' -- but not by action. Definition if the author, in the work of fiction, says "Fred is a lesbian." Description if Time magazine publishes an article describing Fred as "the best gay cop in the screenplay." But by action, I think, you leave too much room for Kirk/Spock ambiguity -- and that way lie flamewars. Deltopia 01:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you mean action's not enough if, for example, the lead character is a male in an unambiguously sexual relationship with another male, and throughout the book has romantic/sexual encounters with other men, and with no women? Anyway, I've started to try & revamp the page a bit in my sandbox. Let me know what you think. I haven't attempted the criteria bit yet, but the first paragraph (shamelessly pinched from the List of LGB people) is useful in defining homosexuality & bisexuality. I am also wondering if maybe we should separate lesbian, gay & bisexual characters from transsexual characters the way that the people lists have been separated since the first three have more in common with each other than with transsexuality. Just a thought, what do other people think? Also, we could do with defining what we mean by modern fiction (& is there any reason why it's limited to modern fiction?). So many questions... -- Beloved Freak  17:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think, from what I've read, actions are enough, but only because it doesn't work the other way -- if Fred lives in an unambiguously monogamous relationship with a person of the opposite gender, but Fred's author identifies him as a repressed bi, we would probably throw him on here. There are better examples, but that is one that illustrates why I think actions are almost ignorable.  I may well be wrong and am willing to be convinced otherwise :) Deltopia 20:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Good sandbox start, Belovedfreak. I'd assist when it gets up to the main page. --Moni3 17:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3
 * Awesome revision, Belovedfreak; you rock! And to answer your question about the limited genre, see List of LGBT figures in fiction and myth for the other lists which were split off the original master list. What do you think about me doing some kind of nav bar to go from one to the other? TAnthony 17:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah I think a nav bar would be a great idea, I wasn't even aware of the "myth" list until very recently, they kind of get lost otherwise. -- Beloved Freak  18:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * As you can see, I've already implemented a nav box. TAnthony 18:49, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * That's great. I've added all the currently sourced items to my sandbox. Should I add that to the article & move the current unsourced list to the talkpage, or is it best to leave it as it is for now? -- Beloved Freak  19:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, if we want others to contribute sources, I think we need to make it as simple as possible: we should format all (or most) current items into tables with a "source needed" tag in the References column for each one. Since they're fictional and so not controversial, I think they can stay in as unsourced for a bit without being deleted to give us time to source them, and they can always be moved to the Talk page in table form.
 * BUT, to get the ball rolling, perhaps we should do as you say, put your sourced tables in and put the rest here, then add some back one by one in table format, starting with the ones that don't have sources yet but are obviously accurate. Let me know how I can help you make the initial change, I don't want to mess with your sandbox or get in the way. TAnthony 19:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, I see your first point, it'd probably be better in some ways to leave the entries there to be sourced in due course, but just glancing over the list I can see some pretty questionable entries already, so I think I will just go ahead and move the list to the talkpage to be sorted. Hopefully with a concerted effort we can sort it within a short time. I will have a bash at it this weekend. As you can see I haven't addressed the criteria issue yet, so that still needs to be agreed upon. -- Beloved Freak  20:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Also: what about transsexual characters? Are we keeping them in or making a separate page? -- Beloved Freak  20:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Though they are certainly more prevalent than ever, I would say there are still few enough trans characters that they fit fine into the list: LGBT is still the most commen term, despite the choice made for the real-world LGB people lists. TAnthony 21:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Table width
If anyone could scrutinise the code and see if they can work out why the tables for "H" and "W" are shorter (or is it narrower?) than the others, that would be great. I can't work it out... -- Beloved Freak  10:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Never mind. It seems to have sorted itself out. -- Beloved Freak  23:48, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters
A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion or exclusion of episode and character, as well as other fiction articles. Please visit the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction). Ikip (talk) 11:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Original list, to be sorted, referenced & readded to article page with citation & explanation
Please delete the characters from this list when transferred to the article. -- Beloved Freak  10:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

A-C

 * An'desha shena Jor'ethan in Mercedes Lackey's Mage Storm trilogy (bi-sexual (attracted to Firesong)).
 * Aran'gar (also Halima Saranov) - The Wheel of Time series - Reincarnation of the lecherous male Forsaken Balthamel into a female body. His predilections remained intact, though his actions (as Halima Saranov) are ambiguous. Flirts with but will not sleep with men. (transgendered/bisexual?)
 * Asher from the Anita Blake series by Laurell K. Hamilton (bisexual)


 * Balthamos and Baruch, angel lovers in the His Dark Materials trilogy (ungendered but both referred to in the male pronoun)
 * US Navy Commander and Chaplain James J. Banquette (gay but married), portrayed by Miles Derry in One of the Guys by Robert Clark Young
 * The Barasts, a bisexual species of humans in The Neanderthal Parallax trilogy by Robert J. Sawyer
 * Barieus in Lynn Flewelling's Nightrunner series (bisexual)
 * Justin Bartlett in Cate Tiernan's Sweep series (gay)
 * Sean Bateman in The Rules of Attraction (bisexual)
 * Eva Bates - Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe by Fannie Flagg (inferred that she is bisexual)
 * Martin Benson - The eponymous hero of the Benson Trilogy by Michael Carson. (gay)
 * Berdine in The Sword of Truth Series by Terry Goodkind - in a relationship with Raina, another of the Mord'Sith
 * Rupert Birkin in Women in Love by D.H. Lawrence
 * Anthony Blanche - Aesthetic character in Evelyn Waugh's Brideshead Revisited (gay)
 * Beryl Blenheim in Chart Throb by Ben Elton (transgender)
 * Kyle Blueman, CHERUB series by Robert Muchamore
 * Harlan Brown - Track coach and lover of world class Olympic runner Billy Sive in The Front Runner, Billy's Boy, and Harlan's Race (gay)


 * Carmilla, from Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu's 1872 Gothic vampire novella, Carmilla (lesbian)
 * Hugo Cartwright from Stephen Fry's book The Liar
 * Mr. Cecil, the costume designer in Daisy Fay and the Miracle Man written by Fannie Flagg (gay)
 * Celie from The Color Purple has a love affair with Shug and mentions several times throughout the book that she is not attracted to men (lesbian)
 * Andrew Compton in Poppy Z. Brite's Exquisite Corpse (gay)
 * Bertram Cope A Wisconsin-born Masters Student who is also a Student Professor at an Illinois state college in the early 1900's; from Bertram Cope's Year, by Henry Blake Fuller (implied as Gay)
 * Catherine Cornelius in Michael Moorcock's Jerry Cornelius novels.
 * Cupid in Luke Sutherland's novel Venus as a Boy; A damaged prostitute from Orkney with the ability to make his lovers see visions of paradise. (bisexual)

D-H

 * Mrs. Danvers - Daphne du Maurier's novel, Rebecca (lesbian)
 * Roger Dascombe - V for Vendetta; extremely camp and accused of being homosexual, but later pays a widow into sleeping with him. (bisexual?)
 * David, from Russell T Davies' Doctor Who novel, Damaged Goods (gay)
 * Beauchamp Day - Tales of the City seducer, corrupter and opportunist (bisexual)
 * Domenico - Anne Rice's Cry to Heaven (bisexual)
 * Randy Dreyfus - Peter Lefcourt's The Dreyfus Affair: A Love Story. Married white baseball player that has an affair with a male black team member and eventually leaves his wife for him. (bisexual)
 * Divine and Darling Daintyfoot in Jean Genet's Our Lady of the Flowers


 * Danielle Edwards - Two For One—a novel about having choices novel by Sean David Wright (bisexual) - Finance exec who has a straight boyfriend and a lesbian lover
 * Sky Eventide in Cate Tiernan's Sweep series (bisexual)


 * Henry Fitzroy - Tanya Huff's Vicki Nelson series (bisexual)
 * Jack Flash - Hal Duncan's Vellum & Ink (gay)
 * Fledge, the butler in Patrick McGrath's The Grotesque (bisexual)
 * Padraig Fleury - in Standish a novel by Erastes (gay)
 * Freelorn - prince of Arlen in Diane Duane's Middle Kingdoms series (bi)
 * Tylendel Frelennye - Mercedes Lackey's Last Herald Mage trilogy, lifebonded to Vanyel Ashkevron (gay)


 * Sidney Giblet in Patrick McGrath's The Grotesque (bisexual)
 * Jess Goldberg in Leslie Feinberg's Stone Butch Blues - says that s/he has always preferred femmes, whether female or male. (Bisexual)
 * Rafe Goshawk - in Standish a novel by Erastes (gay)
 * John Grimes in James Baldwin's Go Tell It on the Mountain.
 * Private Magda "Tonker" Halter - Monstrous Regiment by Terry Pratchett (lesbian). Partner of "Lofty" Tewt (below).
 * Adrian Healey in Stephen Fry's The Liar
 * Herewiss s'Hearn in Diane Duane's Middle Kingdoms series (bi)

I-M

 * Inès - No Exit by Jean-Paul Sartre (lesbian).
 * Infinite Darlene, from Boy Meets Boy (novel) by David Levithan (drag queen, possibly lesbian
 * Whipple Janders - A character from the novel Hawaii, who leaves his wife for a man with whom he had served in the Armed Forces. (gay)
 * Jean-Claude from the Anita Blake series by Laurell K. Hamilton (bisexual)
 * Jeffy and James in The Devil Wears Prada by Lauren Weisberger (gay)
 * Joanna Lee Jefferson - A character in N. A. Diaman's Ed Dean is Queer.


 * Keren in Mercedes Lackey's Queen's Own trilogy, lifebonded to Ylsa, then to Sherrill. (lesbian).
 * Alex of Kerry in Lynn Flewelling's Nightrunner series, partnered with Seregil. (gay) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.236.92 (talk) 01:27, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Daja Kisubo - Tamora Pierce's The Will of the Empress (lesbian)
 * Silverfox k'Leshya in Mercedes Lackey's Mage Storm trilogy, partnered with Firesong k'Treva (gay).
 * Firesong k'Treva in Mercedes Lackey's Mage Storm trilogy, partnered first with An'desha shena Jor'ethan and then with Silverfox k'Leshya (gay).
 * Starwind k'Treva - Mercedes Lackey's Last Herald Mage trilogy, lifebonded to Moondance k'Treva (gay)
 * Moondance k'Treva - Mercedes Lackey's Last Herald Mage trilogy, lifebonded to Starwind k'Treva (gay)
 * Kyle, from Boy Meets Boy by David Levithan (bisexual)
 * Laura, from Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu's 1872 Gothic vampire novella, Carmilla (lesbian)
 * Liall in Kirby Crow's Scarlet and the White Wolf trilogy, partner of Scarlet. (bisexual)
 * Liir, possibly Liir Thropp, a character in Wicked and the main character of the sequel, Son of a Witch. His lover is Trism, a coconspirator. May also have romantic feelings for Candle, who is pregnant with his child. (gay or bisexual)
 * Lynx in Lynn Flewelling's Nightrunner series (gay)


 * Guido Maffeo in Anne Rice's Cry to Heaven (bisexual)
 * Mark Manning - Main character from the Mark Manning mystery series by Michael Craft. Finds out he's gay in the first novel, Flight Dreams.
 * Lord Sebastian Marchmain from Evelyn Waugh's Brideshead Revisited. One of the two central characters in the novel. (gay)
 * Marius in The Vampire Chronicles by Anne Rice (bisexual)
 * Francis Marlowe - Iris Murdoch's The Black Prince Important character in novel. (gay)
 * max spendilten from the fictionpress series deep vortex written by alexpanda, max is bisexual and in a relationship with kai (female) and sam panda (male) (bisexual)
 * Jason Mellis - The narrator in N. A. Diaman's semi-autobiographical novel Second Crossing.
 * Raven Meltzer in Cate Tiernan's Sweep series (bisexual)
 * Thomas Messenger in Hal Duncan's novels Vellum & Ink.
 * Michelle - Main character in the Burke series of novels by Andrew Vachss. In Flood, the first novel, Michelle is a pre-operative MTF.  She becomes the life partner of Mole in Blue Belle, and undergoes her operation after the thirteenth novel, Only Child. (transwoman)

N-R

 * The Very Irreverend Joffy Next from Thursday Next novels by Jasper Fforde. Revealed to have a boyfriend, Miles Hawke, in book two. (gay)
 * Nigel in The Devil Wears Prada by Lauren Weisberger. (gay)
 * Noah, from Boy Meets Boy (novel) by David Levithan (gay)
 * Nothing from Poppy Z. Brite's Lost Souls. (bisexual)


 * Valerie Page - V for Vendetta; actress, star of The Salt Flats. Lover of Ruth (see below). Is imprisoned, experimented on and murdered by England's fascist government. (lesbian)
 * George Pappas - The main character in N. A. Diaman's novel Castro Street Memories.
 * Paul, from Boy Meets Boy (novel) by David Levithan (gay)
 * Parsifal - The Magician's Assistant by Ann Patchett. Magician, lover of Phan. (gay)
 * Una Persson in Michael Moorcock's Jerry Cornelius novels.
 * Phan - The Magician's Assistant by Ann Patchett. Parsifal's lover. (gay)
 * D.J. Pickett - Peter Lefcourt's The Dreyfus Affair: A Love Story. Male black baseball player that has an affair with married white team player Randy Dreyfus, who eventually leaves his wife for him. (gay)


 * Raina in The Sword of Truth Series by Terry Goodkind - in a relationship with Berdine, another of the Mord'Sith.
 * Randolph - Truman Capote's Other Voices, Other Rooms'' (gay)
 * Relli - Mercedes Lackey's By the Sword, partnered with Shallan (lesbian)
 * Luis Rivera - A character in N. A. Diaman's Ed Dean Is Queer.
 * Rizu - Tamora Pierce's The Will of the Empress (lesbian)
 * Ruth in V for Vendetta. Actress and lover of Valerie Page (see above). Tortured into giving up Valerie and subsequently committed suicide. (lesbian)

S-Z

 * Sam Panda from the fictionpress series deep vortex written by alexpanda, Sam is bisexual and in a relationship with Max Spendilten (male) and Kai (female) (bisexual)
 * Simion Satterwhite A Baccalaureate student attending Yale College (now Yale University) in the Late 1870's- Early 1880's hailing from Haliburton, West Virginia in The God in Flight, by Laura Argiri (Gay)
 * Siuan Sanche - The Wheel of Time series. Had a relationship with fellow Aes Sedai Moiraine Damodred, while in training. (bisexual)
 * Scarlet in Kirby Crow's Scarlet and the White Wolf trilogy, partner of Liall. (gay)
 * Alec Scudder in E.M. Forster's Maurice (gay)
 * Rufus Scott in James Baldwin's Another Country
 * Segnbora d'Welcaen tai-Enraesi in Diane Duane's Middle Kingdoms series (bi)
 * Seregil in Lynn Flewelling's Nightrunner series (bisexual)
 * Shallan - Mercedes Lackey's By the Sword, partnered with Relli (lesbian)
 * Katie Shaw - Two For One—a novel about having choices novel by Sean David Wright (lesbian) - Advocate for the homeless who is Danielle Edwards' lover.
 * Sherrill - Mercedes Lackey's Queen's Own trilogy, lifebonded to Keren (lesbian)
 * Shug in Alice Walker's The Color Purple (bisexual)
 * Billy Sive World class Olympic runner and lover of his track coach Harlan Brown in The Front Runner (1974) (gay)
 * Ambrose Standish - in Standish a novel by Erastes (gay)
 * Cornelius "Corny" Stone in Tithe : A Modern Faerie Tale and Ironside: A Modern Faery's Tale by Holly Black (gay)
 * Henry Stratford in Anne Rice's The Mummy (bisexual)
 * Milo Sturgis - An LAPD detective in Jonathan Kellerman's Alex Delaware series. (gay)


 * Janos Tabori in Gentry Lee and Arthur C. Clarke's Rama II (gay)
 * Private Tilda "Lofty" Tewt - Monstrous Regiment by Terry Pratchett (lesbian). Partner of "Tonker" Halter (above).
 * Michael "Mouse" Tolliver - Tales of the City (gay)
 * Tom - Bridget Jones's Diary (gay)
 * Tony, from Boy Meets Boy (novel) by David Levithan (gay)
 * Kenneth Marchal Toomey in Anthony Burgess's Earthly Powers (gay)
 * Tonio Treschi in Anne Rice's Cry to Heaven (bisexual)
 * Sho Tsukioka in Koushun Takami's Battle Royale (gay)
 * Dr. Ethan Urquhart - Lois McMaster Bujold's Ethan of Athos (gay)
 * Margot Verger, the sister of the villainous Mason Verger in Hannibal by Thomas Harris. (lesbian)


 * John Williams (aka Will) in W. A. Hoffman's Brethren: Raised by Wolves and Matelots: Raised by Wolves, partner (matelot) of Gaston the Ghoul. (bisexual but leaning towards gay)
 * Andrew Wray in Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey-Maturin series


 * Ylsa - Mercedes Lackey's Queen's Own trilogy, lifebonded to Keren (lesbian)


 * Zach - Poppy Z Brite's Drawing Blood. (bisexual)
 * Edward Zanni in How I Paid for College by Marc Acito (bisexual)
 * Zillah - Poppy Z Brite's Lost Souls. (bisexual)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Belovedfreak (talk • contribs) 20:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Dorian Gray
Since Dorian Gray and Basil Hallward are never outed by the author (they are just interpreted that way by the researchers), I'm not sure they should be presented here. --Jet37 (talk) 15:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't comment on the actual interpretation as I've never read the book, but it seems to me that it's cited to a reliable source. A quick search on google books leads me to think that there is other reliable coverage of this. My suggestion would be to firstly, if you don't think the source used now is good enough, find a better one. Secondly, find a reliable source refuting this interpretation or suggesting that he is not a bisexual character, and then using that reference, add an explanation to the "details" section of the table in this list. If it's a case of homosexual subtext (as I say, I've never read it, so I don't know), then that can be explained. Those are my thoughts anyway.-- Beloved Freak  15:09, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Nightrunner should retagged? Bisexual characters not really bi.
Seregil expresses his dislike of sleeping with women in internal dialog. He is a homosexual that sleeps with women ONLY when required by his job (spy). I would list him as gay.

Alec likewise has only expressed interest in Seregil...... but he is new to the whole process and is still figuring out for himself what he is - but he did "marry" a man (Talímenios) and has not expressed interest interest in anyone else.

Micum Cavis is a candidate for Bisexual "tag." (ex lover of Seregil - now married with kids).

Spandox (talk) 17:21, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * What do the sources call him? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  00:17, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Wide misconception that Alec Scudder of Maurice is gay.
Both the list of gay and the list of LGBT characters put Alec Scudder from Maurice as gay, and there are third party sources also stating this. He is even used as an example at the beginning of one of those pages. However, in the book he writes a letter saying and later tells the main character that it is natural to want women, and the main character also sees him kissing two maids. Surely the book's clear picture of him as bisexual should take precedence over third party sources?

Relevant book quotes: "Has Mr Borenius spoken to you about certain girls? I can't help being rather rough, it is some men's nature, but you should not treat me like a dog. It was before you came. It is natural to want a girl, you cannot go against human nature."-from Alec's letter to Maurice.

"For instance, as he drove up through the park he saw a gamekeeper dallying with two of the maids, and felt a pang of envy. The girls were damned ugly, which the man wasn't: somehow this made it worse, and he stared at the trio, feeling cruel and respectable; the girls broke away giggling, the man returned the stare furtively and then thought it safer to touch his cap; he had spoilt that little game."--92.29.147.216 (talk) 17:43, 3 June 2014 (UTC)92.29.147.216

merge of List of books featuring transgender persons
The content of List of books featuring transgender persons would all be content appropriately covered in this article. There is no need to attempt to maintain the information in 2 spots. (There is so little sourced content in that article that in actuality there is practically nothing to merge). -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  03:24, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * support. This one covers the scope of the smaller list, I agree no need for dual maintenance.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 17:11, 30 May 2014 (UTC)


 * partial support. I think the list should be separated into categories.  If someone is looking for books with trans characters, they shouldn't have to pore over a GLBT list to find them.  And for the record, if you check the history, you'll see that the reason that article is so short is that someone decided to rip most of the content out of it a few months ago.  - Lisa (talk - contribs) 04:01, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The magic of the new combined list is that you can simply sort the column and all trans entries are grouped together.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 04:33, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Lisa, I just pulled the removed transgender books from the history and added them to my worklist to cite and add here, thanks for the heads up. This list will never be "complete" but it seems as though trans characters are fewer and harder to find than others so I want to make an effort to include as many as I can.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 04:59, 30 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Is there an easy way to add to the list? - Lisa (talk - contribs) 13:21, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Merge list of gay characters
The content of List of gay characters in literature was split out from this list in 2012, but I can see no value in dual maintenance, so it would be better to merge that back here.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 17:16, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

The "sublists" (gay, lesbian, bi, transgender) are relatively small and somewhat redundant, with duplicate entries from here and a lot of the same novels with characters split out based on their individual sexuality across the lists. Merging back together and reformatting along the lines of the gay list seems to make the most sense.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 14:12, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I've tagged List of bisexual characters in literature and List of lesbian characters in literature for merge discussion as well. &mdash; TAnthonyTalk 15:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


 * And my plan would be for this list to be reformatted like the gay list but with the "subgroups" (gay, lesbian, bi, transgender) sortable.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 15:12, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

So I have reformatted this list as a sortable table, added citations and boldly merged the following lists into it: Not surprisingly, most entries on those other lists were already here, reinforcing the argument above. This list is large but not unwieldy, and if it is ever split again based on size I would argue that it be done by year or by works A-Z rather than by "sexual denomination".&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 00:29, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * List of gay characters in literature
 * List of bisexual characters in literature
 * List of lesbian characters in literature
 * List of books featuring transgender persons

Nico DiAngelo.
I, personally think that Nico DiAngelo is more curious than flat out gay. He does like Percy, but shows no other evidence. I think that maybe he just thought he liked him and learned how he felt later on which made him upset that he can't understand his own feelings. Which I can relate to. Although I have said this, I do think that it is a possibility for him to truly like Percy. Princessthayet (talk) 01:49, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

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Sorting
How is this page going to be sorted? It looks as though it's being sorted by work title, however it's not stated anywhere on the page and the 1800s section doesn't appear to be sorted at all. Should the page continue on as sorting by work title or would it possibly be better if it's sorted by when the work initially came out so the page is somewhat of a timeline? VivaciousArcanist (talk) 22:49, 7 August 2020 (UTC)