Talk:List of Latin phrases (full)/Archive 1

Inclusion?
-- Shall we include many mottos? The motto for Kings College London is Sancte Et Sapienter which, i believe, means :"With Holiness and Wisdom" Thank you Zach Beauvais 00:17, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

--What about Floreat Etona?

EXTRA OMNES
No EXTRA OMNES ? 86.136.90.90 16:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Greek?
Are some of these translations of Greek?Cameron Nedland 14:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * O duh, yeah. Sorry, do you want me to delete this part?Cameron Nedland 18:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

errare humanum est
This was used earlier by Cicero (106-43 BC) and perhaps also by Hieronymus. See, for example, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_lateinischer_Redewendungen. Also discussed in the recent book Hier Stehe ich, ich kann nicht anders by Helge Hesse. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.172.170.42 (talk) 22:45, 30 January 2007 (UTC).

Gaudeamus igitur
Surprised not to see this here (this comment also added to detail page) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.29.70.20 (talk) 12:50, 27 April 2007 (UTC).

I think two more quotations should be added: "Aurum potestas est"; which means "Gold is power" Or literally "Gold power is" and "Rem acu tetigisti" which means "You have hit the nail on the head" or literally "You have touched the matter with a needle" 212.46.45.154 19:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

non impediti ratione congitatonis
shouldn't this be Bold textcogitatonisBold text?66.35.34.88 15:15, 29 May 2007 (UTC)userralto

Further segmentation desired
If we had those with specialized knowledge of their specialty and Latin, how great it would be to have:
 * Medical Latin phrases
 * Legal Latin phrase
 * Historical Latin phrases
 * I wish I could volunteer, but I'm not qualified.Arodb 19:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

quod vide (q.v.)
Should it be mentioned that (q.v.) is less frequently seen on, e.g. web pages, than on printed documents due to the hyperlinking facility? Samantha of Cardyke 15:58, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

En masse
I was suprised not to find this here. Anyone who knows the exact translation able to add it? -Aaedien 23:22, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * En masse is French, not Latin. Cyan-Light 21:18, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

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Requests for translation
You might strike it lucky and get a translation by posting here, but you're far better off posting to our dedicated Languages reference desk --Dweller (talk) 09:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

a priori "presupposed"
It is interesting that the first word to describe "a priori" is "presupposed" when I think of philosophers such as Giovanni Gentile who used a priori to mean "without presupposition". This might be confusing to those who go get into the philosophic end of it and look it up here. Maybe "without prior supposition" or "no previous account" might be a better initial translation here. 67.5.156.242 (talk) 10:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

A phrase I'd like to see a translation for please?
I know this is a weird request but I've nowhere else to turn. I've been all over looking for a translation of this phrase. There are a few people around the net that use it for a motto but alas, no translation. I hope someone here can help me. Here's the phrase:

"quamquam in fundis inferiorum sumus, oculos angelorum tenebimus."

The best of my latin tells me that it has something to do with "seeing the angel of death" (I think - i.e. oculos (see) angelorum (angel) tenebimus (death I think)), and starts out, well, quamquam is just a sentence opener that I think means something like "Although" and fundis sumus I think means "underground".

"Although buried, they see the angel of death?"

That can't be right. Too weird and meaningless given the context. Any help? Please?

Jreitsch 20:53, 11 April 2007 (UTC)jreitsch


 * Purely a guess:
 * "Although in the lower depths, we behold with the eyes of angels."
 * Please let us know the correct translation, when you find it!
 * logologist|Talk 21:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Literally, it means "although we are in the low depths, we are retained in the eyes of the angels". So, you could reformulate it as "although in lower depths, we remain watched by angels". I am not good enough in English to give it a nice reformulation. But you get the idea of the phrase. By the way, I doubt this phrase was written by an original Latin speaker. The style is too "modern". Would not have used "quamquam", and I would have used passive forms instead of active forms. Indeed, "we" should be the object rather than the subject. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.72.93.5 (talk) 18:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Could someone tell me how to write "In Life, always be free" in latin? I want to get it as a tattoo, I think that'd be cool and would actually mean something to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.47.205.173 (talk) 20:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone know how to say "Come What May" in latin. Also interessted in a tattoo of this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.54.202.166 (talk) 20:52, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't want a tattoo saying this, but I would like to know what "omnia romae vernalia sunt" means. I've read it somewhere, and from what I've collected from this article, I suppose it means "all romans are" and vernalia? 85.76.253.210 (talk) 23:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

"...quamquam in fundis inferiorum sumus, oculos angelorum tenebimus..."

I venture that Oscar Wilde said something similar? "Though we are in the gutter we look to the stars", or something?

Jonty H. Campbell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.241.36.253 (talk) 16:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Latin Phrase Mechanism
Is there a way for me to show a random Latin phrase (with translation) per {timePeriod:Day,Week}? Would this be a "bot" or just something that pulls from this list?Mjquin_id (talk) 15:18, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Quotations
I am by no means an expert on this topic, but why is it that some of the translations are in quotations, while others are not? It seems the translations towards the beginning of the alphabet do not contain quotation marks, but further through the alphabet more and more translations contain the marks. JPP355 (talk) 17:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. In my opinion, there is no general need for quotation marks in the column "Translation". The reason for this inconsistency is probably the split of this list into 6 separate sub-lists (see: List of Latin phrases) which means that while an editor is editing one list, (s)he is not aware of formats used in other lists. Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:57, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Illegitimati non carborundum
"Don't let the bastards grind you down" A latin phrase which is often used Bogger (talk) 09:04, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, sort of, yes. What's your point?
 * There is an entry in this list which also points to Illegitimi non carborundum. What else did you have in mind? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:44, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

quod
condemnant quod non intellegunt; They condemn what they do not understand or They condemn because they do not understand (the quod is ambiguous) It is my understanding that in this case quod should be taken strictly as because. I'll wait a few days before making the change if no-one objects.Niteman555 (talk) 23:52, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

ubi mel ibi apes
I am by no means familiar with Latin or the Roman world, but I was looking over the list and the description of the above seems off to me. The translation is "where [there is] honey, there [are] bees", and it is described as "similar to " you catch more bees with honey than with vinegar" .. treat people nicely and they will treat you nice back". The expression seems far more in line with "Where there's smoke, there's fire". Is anyone familiar with this, and the intended meaning? --69.165.152.73 (talk) 08:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Images
I would like to know: what is your position on the images on this page? Do you find that they make the article better?--Hilsa 01:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Guywithmako (talk • contribs)
 * Background: This is a continuation of the discussion at User talk:Guywithmako.
 * There are currently three images in this full list: File:Waterhouse-gather ye rosebuds-1909.jpg at List of Latin phrases: C, File:Brochenzell Heiligkreuzkapelle Kruzifix detail.jpg at List of Latin phrases: I, and File:Ultima Ratio Regum Cannon.jpg at List of Latin phrases: U; so it's not as if the list were overwhelmed with images.
 * A further point, in addition to those I made at Guywithmako's talk page, is that regulating the inclusion of images in this list seems to me like unneeded instruction creep. There doesn't seem to be a mad rush to fill the list with images, and those three currently present illustrate their subjects quite nicely. None of them have their own article in the English Wikipedia where the images would be more appropriate. Two of these (INRI, Ultima ratio) do have articles in other language Wikipedias where these images are used, demonstrating their suitability to illustrate the subject. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:16, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Many phrases from Merriam-Webster
I have a 1964 copy of THE NEW MERRIAM-WEBSTER DICTIONARY, which has a nine-page appendix, "FOREIGN WORDS AND PHRASES INCLUDING STATE AND NATIONAL MOTTOES" [capitalization theirs]. I estimate that that appendix has 530 entries, including 300 Latin entries, 200 French entries, and 30 (probably fewer) other entries. That list has some entries not found in List of Latin phrases (full), and vice versa. I am listing hereunder the entries in that list which are not in List of Latin phrases (full), with parentheses around entries which are similar to entries in List of Latin phrases (full). I am reproducing the letter "J/j" as used in the dictionary, although I am aware that List of Latin phrases (full) uses the semi-consonantal "I/i". I am not providing English translations at this time, because of concerns about copyright infringement, but maybe there should not be those concerns in this instance, because of the limited number of ways in which a phrase can be translated.

—Wavelength (talk) 18:59, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * abeunt studia in mores
 * ad extremum
 * ad patres
 * ad unguem
 * ad vivum
 * aequam servare mentem
 * aequo animo
 * aere perennius
 * aliquando bonus dormitat Homerus
 * aliter idem
 * a maximis ad minima
 * amicus humani generis
 * amicus usque ad aras
 * anguis in herba
 * animal bipes implume
 * animis opibusque parati
 * anno aetatis suae
 * anno mundi
 * anno urbis conditae
 * aqua et igni interdictus
 * Arcades ambo
 * arrectis auribus
 * aut Caesar aut nullus
 * bonis avibus
 * brutum fulmen
 * cadit quaestio
 * causa sine qua non
 * crux criticorum
 * delineavit
 * Deo favente
 * de profundis
 * desipere in loco
 * dies faustus
 * dies infaustus
 * docendo discimus
 * dux femina facti
 * ecce signum
 * e contrario
 * est modus in rebus
 * (et id genus omne)
 * et sic de similibus
 * (exceptio probat regulam de rebus non exceptis)
 * exceptis excipiendis
 * exitus acta probat
 * ex mero motu
 * ex necessitate rei
 * experto credite
 * ex ungue leonem
 * facile princeps
 * facilis descensus Averno [or] facilis descensus Averni
 * fas est ab hoste doceri
 * Fata viam invenient
 * fiat experimentum in corpore
 * finem respice
 * forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit
 * (fortes fortuna juvat)
 * fronti nulla fides
 * fuit Ilium
 * furor loquendi
 * furor poeticus
 * furor scribendi
 * Gallice
 * hic et ubique
 * humanum est errare
 * (ignorantia juris neminem excusat)
 * in aeternum
 * in dubio
 * in futuro
 * in praesenti
 * in saecula saeculorum
 * in statu quo ante bellum
 * inter nos
 * in usum Delphini
 * invenit
 * invita Minerva
 * jacta alea est
 * januis clausis
 * jus divinum
 * laborare est orare
 * lacrimae rerum
 * lapsus calami
 * littera scripta manet
 * locus in quo
 * lusus naturae
 * magna est veritas et praevalebit
 * magni nominis umbra
 * malis avibus
 * medio tutissimus ibis
 * me judice
 * meum et tuum
 * mole ruit sua
 * monumentum semper perennius
 * (morituri te salutamus)
 * mutato nomine de te fabula narratur
 * ne cede malis
 * ne quid nimis
 * non omnia possumus omnes
 * novus homo
 * nugae
 * omnia mutantur, nos et in illis mutamur
 * ore rotundo
 * o tempora! o mores!
 * otium cum dignitate
 * pallida Mors
 * partiriun montes, nascetur ridiculus mus
 * paucis verbis
 * pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt
 * pereunt et imputantur
 * pleno jure
 * poeta nascitur, non fit
 * post obitum
 * pro aris et focis
 * (pro rege, lege, et grege)
 * quantum mutatus ab illo
 * qui facit per alium facit per se
 * quoad hoc
 * quos deus vult perdere prius dementat
 * re infecta
 * religio loci
 * resurgam
 * sal Atticum
 * sculpsit
 * scuto bonae voluntatis tuae coronasti nos
 * secundum artem
 * secundum naturam
 * se defendendo
 * semper idem
 * sicut patribus sit Deus nobis
 * silent leges inter arma
 * similis simili gaudet
 * siste viator
 * splendide mendax
 * spolia opima
 * status in quo
 * suaviter in modo, fortiter in re
 * suo loco
 * suo Marte
 * totidem verbis
 * totis viribus
 * toto caelo [or] toto coelo
 * tria juncta in uno
 * truditur dies die
 * (ultima ratio regum)
 * uno animo
 * utili dulci
 * (vade retro me, Satana)
 * varia lectio [and] variae lectiones
 * varium et mutabile semper femina
 * vincit omnia veritas
 * vinculum matrimonii
 * virginibus puerisque
 * vixere fortes ante Agamemnona
 * vox et praeterea nihil
 * (vox populi vox Dei)

beneplacito
In Italian beneplacito means "blessing", so avere il beneplacito means that someone had a blessing/was granted permission (to do something). I am not sure why in the article it is synonymous with the more common ad libitum (at pleasure). Wikipedia... 128.100.227.111 (talk) 18:12, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Add
Someone should add

Causa latet vis est notissima. The cause is hidden, the results well-known. -Robbie

Someforgot Veritas odium Parit.Its a shame how editors missed this frase.200.48.214.19 (talk) 14:22, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Missing a phrase:
Prae Deus, omnes testis Exim Deus, nullus

Before God, all are witness, After God, none. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.208.174.60 (talk) 17:25, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Additional phrase to include: vis major
Can someone add in the following phrase: vis major, please? We have a Wikipedia article here: Force majeure. I would add it, but I don't want to mess up the chart. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 02:09, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

few mistakes
There are a couple of mistakes on the table, mostly due to forced English plurals to Latin words. The best example is "aquila non capit muscas". The word "muscas" did not exist in Latin, it was coined by a clueless british/american(?) writer who wrote a book with this title some time ago. In latin musca (fly) has the plural musci (flies). The correct phrase is "aquila non capit muscam", where the termination specifies accusative plural. Same as "philosofum non facit barba" (not the beard makes a philosopher, please remark the difference "philosofus non facit barba" would mean that one particular philosopher does not have/grow beard). — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaurV (talk • contribs) 09:22, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Your argument regarding "musca" and its declension is not supported by musca. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with the Barba non facit philosophum example. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:58, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

The point I am trying to make is that accusative termination in Latin is "um", and Latins didn't make "-s" plurals. But have it your way... — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaurV (talk • contribs) 05:41, 1 July 2016 (UTC) In the page you linked, go and check the plurals for all those 20 languages. They all end in "chi","cji", "che", etc, adding "-s" only by local characteristics (like Spanish, whatever). LaurV (talk) 05:47, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Where does this list use improper plurals, or accusatives? Which "linked page" with "20 languages" are you referring to? If musca, what do those have to do with this list? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 09:40, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Table formatting
The table seems inconsistent and the headings too general. A better layout could be

38.110.64.163 (talk) 21:25, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

A column for pronunciation should also be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.98.136.99 (talk) 20:06, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

accipe hoc - take THAT
Can't edit Template:List of Latin phrases (A), please change "accipe hoc", it means "take THAT" and not "take THIS". Cheers --Saippuakauppias ⇄ 20:01, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * (You would need to edit List of Latin phrases (A).) Wouldn't "take that" be "accipe illud"? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:45, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Confusion about Erasmus
In the phrase:

iugulare mortuos	to cut the throat of corpses	From Gerhard Gerhards' (1466–1536) [better known as Erasmus] collection of annotated Adagia (1508). It can mean attacking the work or personality of deceased person. Alternatively, it can be used to describe criticism of an individual already heavily criticised by others.

It is said that "Gerhard Gerhards' (1466–1536) [better known as Erasmus]", but in the Erasmus article, "A 17th-century legend has it that Erasmus was first named Geert Geerts (also Gerhard Gerhards or Gerrit Gerritsz),[10] but this is unfounded.[11]"

I believe that the Erasmus page should mandate over this one. Recommending removal of that note about "Gerhard Gerhards". Suggestion:

From Erasmus' collection of annotated Adagia (1508). It can mean attacking the work or personality of deceased person. Alternatively, it can be used to describe criticism of an individual already heavily criticised by others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.190.103.11 (talk) 23:12, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Unus Annus
Someone maybe would like to add Unus Annus (one year) from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXnh0h8IT7E -- Danielrhirsch 23:25, 19 November 2019 (IL) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielrhirsch (talk • contribs)

Please add “Sunt superis sua jura" to article
Please add " Sunt superis sua jura " to article.

E.g. last sentence in this section of  "The Natural History of Religion" by David Hume -

[ https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Natural_History_of_Religion#Section_XIII._-_Impious_Conceptions_Of_The_Divine_Nature_In_Popular_Religions_Of_Both_Kinds ]

(Note says that it's from Ovid, Metamorphoses, Bk. IX, Line 500.)

I'd prefer that someone who's competent in Latin (not me) do this. :-) Thanks. - 2804:14D:5C59:8833:ECFB:75C9:565B:3859 (talk) 20:51, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Missing a large body of latin phrases from the List of Latin legal terms
Below are the missing terms that could be ported over from the List of Latin legal terms: a mensa et thoro a quo absque hoc accessio accidentalia negotii ad coelum ad colligenda bona ad idem ad quantitatem aditio hereditatis adjournment sine die adminiculum allocatur alteri animus contrahendi animus manendi animus nocendi animus possidendi animus revertendi animus testandi ante cadit quaestio casus fortuitus cautio de restituendo caveat cedens certiorari cessio cessio in anticipando cessio in securitatem debiti cessionarius collatio bonorum commixtio commodans commodatarius commodatum communio bonorum compensatio compensatio morae confusio conjunctissimus consensus ad idem contra contradictio in adjecto coram non judice corpus juris corpus juris civilis corpus juris gentium corpus juris secundum crimen falsi culpa lata culpa levis culpa levissima cum beneficio inventarii cum onere cura curandus curator curator curator ad litem curator bonis curator personae curia advisari vult damnum emergens damnum et interesse data certa datio in solutum de bonis non administratis de cujus de die in diem de minimis debellatio debitor cessus delatio hereditatis deorum injuriae diis curae dictum diligens paterfamilias diligentissimus paterfamilias doli incapax domicilium citandi et executandi dominium plurium in solidum dominium pro parte pro indiviso dominus litis dominus soli domitae naturae duces tecum ebdomadarius eleemosynae embryo formatus embryo informatus episcoporum ecidicus episcopus puerorum error in iudicando error in procedendo essentalia negotii et al et seq ex aequo et bono ex concessis ex delicto ex demissione ex fida bona ex intervalo temporis ex nunc ex post facto law ex propriis sensibus ex proprio motu ex tunc excommunicato capiendo excommunicato recapiendo extant extravagantes facio ut facias factum falsus procurator favor contractus ferae naturae fiat fideicommissarius fideicommissum fideicommissum multiplex fideicommissum residui fideicommissum simplex fideicommittens fideiussio fiduciarius fieri facias formata fortis attachiamentum forum non conveniens fructus industriales fructus naturales functus officio gardianus ecclesiae gravamen guardian ad litem heredes proximi hereditas iacens heres hypotheca in arguendo in curia in forma pauperis in futuro in haec verba in mitius in omnibus in pari delicto in pleno in prope persona in solidum in terrorem in terrorem clause inaedificatio incapax indicia indignus infans infra iniuria sine damno innuendo inter rusticos inter se intra intra fauces terrae intra legem invecta et illata ipso jure iudex a quo iudex ad quem ius commune ius persequendi ius praeferendi ius quaesitum tertio ius retentionis jurat juris privati jus jus accrescendi jus ad bellum jus civile jus cogens jus gentium jus in bello jus inter gentes jus naturale jus primae noctis jus sanguinis jus soli jus tertii lacunae laesio enormis legit vel non lex commissoria lex communis lex fori liberandi causa liberum veto lingua franca lis alibi pendens lis pendens locatio conductio locatio conductio operarum locatio conductio operis locatio conductio rei locus locus delicti locus in quo lucrum cessans mandamus mandatarius mandator mandatum monstrum mora accipiendi mora solvendi mora solvendi ex personae mora solvendi ex re mortis causa mos pro lege motion in limine naturalia negotii ne exeat nec vi negotiorum gestio nemo debet bis vexari nisi non adimpleti contractus non est inventus non obstante verdicto novum iudicium novus actus interveniens nudum pactum nudum praeceptum nudus dominus nulla bona ore tenus pactum acquisitivum pactum de contrahendo pactum de hereditate tertii viventis pactum de non cedendo pactum de non petendo pactum de retrovendendo pactum renunciativum pactum successorium par delictum pars dominii partus sequitur ventrem paterfamilias pendente lite penitus extraneus per aversionem per incuriam per minas per proxima amici per relationem pignus plena probatio pleno iure plus quam tolerabile postliminium praedium praedium dominans praedium serviens praeemptio praesumptio praesumptio innocentiae praesumptio iuris et de iure praesumptio iuris tantum praesumptio veritatis et solemnitatis praetor peregrinus pretium pro doloribus pro bono pro tem probatio probatio probatissima procuratio procurator procurator ad causas procurator ad negotia procurator in rem suam promittens propria persona pupillus qua quae ipso usu consumuntur quaeritur quaestus liberales quantum quantum meruit quantum valebant quasi qui tam quo ante quo warranto quoad hoc ratio scripta rationae soli reddendo singula singulis res res communis res derelictae restitutio in integrum revisio prioris instantiae salva rei substantia scandalum magnatum scienter scire facias scire feci se defendendo secundum formam statuti semiplena probatio seriatim servitus servitus itineris servitus ne luminibus officiatur servitus non altius tollendi servitus oneris ferendi servitus personarum servitus praediorum servitus tigni immittendi servitus viae si sine liberis decesserit situs solutio indebiti specificatio stante matrimonio statu quo stipulans stipulatio alteri stratum sub modo subpoena subpoena ad testificandum subpoena duces tecum suggestio falsi sui heredes necessarii sui juris superficiarius superficies supersedeas suppressio veri supra tantum et tale transactio trial de novo trinoda necessitas tutela tutor ubi eadem ratio universitas personarum universitas rerum uno contextu usucapio usufructuarius usufructus uti possidetis uxor via executoria via iure vice versa vinculum iuris vis maior vitium in contrahendo viz voluntatis declaratio

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidmoore0 (talk • contribs) 09:03, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

English
What does the Latin phrase et al. Mean? 49.145.40.69 (talk) 23:23, 19 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Short for et alia, "and others". Nuttyskin (talk) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Addition of new phrases
"virgo intacta", I'm not sure if it fits in the list so I will just leave it here. Merrick919 (talk) 06:21, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Also per centum which I think means by the hundred nunmap  (edit this page to talk) 14:26, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * And comedamus tandem, et bibamus, cras enim moriemur, "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow, we die", which used to adorn the walls of Roman taverns.
 * Nuttyskin (talk) 11:06, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Why is there no J's?
Why no section for Latin phrases beginning with the letter J? I'm sure there must be at least a few.. Jus ad bellum, and Jure uxoris for two. -- &oelig; &trade; 18:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * As far as I know, there was no J in the Latin alphabet. Those articles (and a few others) misspell the first word; they should be moved. Most of the Interwiki links in those articles spell the word with an I. There are entries for "ius ad bellum" and a few others in the List of Latin phrases: I. Ius is another article where these terms could be incorporated. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:25, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Why is there a section for the letter U? I am not aware of that letter existing in the Latin alphabet either. Henrywizard (talk) 19:35, 22 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The original Latin alphabet of the Roman Kingdom and the alphabet of the Roman Empire do not contain the letter U.
 * However the modern ISO basic Latin alphabet (used in medicine) does. Flamur Kasa (talk) 23:08, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The Roman letter V was both a consonant (a "w" sound), and a vowel (an "u" or "oo" sound). In modern pronunciation of Latin, the consonantal value tends to be rendered as a "v" sound. Please note that, in the early centuries of printing, the values of U and V were reversed from the modern use; which is why, for example, our doubled letter "V" (which has a "w" sound), is pronounced "double U".
 * Nuttyskin (talk) 18:14, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

duplicate articles
i see no reason why every single table in this article should have its own separate article. if there is no reason for it, why not delete them all and keep only this one? 2604:3D09:6A7F:82C0:A505:4A5A:8CB7:3C94 (talk) 00:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)