Talk:List of Major League Baseball perfect games

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Section regarding "no-hit, no-walk, no-hit batsmen games" deleted as being useless cruft. A perfect game is a team accomplishment that requires, by definition, no runners allowed via error. There is no justification for listing games spoiled by an error; if we list those games then we should be obligated to list every game ruined by a base hit, every game ruined by a walk, every game ruined by a hit batsman, every game ruined by a dropped third strike, and every game ruined by catchers' interference. Vidor (talk) 00:12, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Nonsense. While perfect games are a team (defensive) accomplishment, they are credited to the pitcher; otherwise perfect games ruined by fielding errors (particularly those committed by players other than the pitcher) are a notable achievement.  Some of the examples you give are cases where the pitcher himself undoes his achievement, and there are plenty of examples of that.  Are there any perfect games ruined by catcher mistakes (dropped third strikes, passed balls, etc)? 50.53.107.181 (talk) 06:44, 19 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Should Rich Hill's performance be included in this section? Yes the perfect game was ended by an error, but even without that, it wouldn't have been a perfect game, since it went to extra innings. He would eventually go on to allow a home run, which seems like it would invalidate his place on this particular list.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dethwing 00 (talk • contribs) 12:20, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I came to say the same thing. While it was 24-up/24-down when Hill came out for the 9th the only two options were for the Pirates to win (home team) or a 10th inning making him 6 outs and 1 run away...  assuming the Dodgers could finally get a run.  Ultimately this game was a 1-hit, 1-error, 1-run shutout loss for Hill.  It almost needs to be on some other page for rare events.  (1) Perfect game broken by error in the 9th, (2) no-hitter ended by walk-off homerun.  Neither of which has ever happened on it's own while both happened last night.205.142.232.18 (talk) 17:45, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

What are the numbers about??
What are the numbers in the table after "RHP" or "LHP" about?? For example Cy Young (BOS) RHP, 37... --Zackmann08 (talk) 03:32, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Those appear to be the ages of the pitcher at the time of the perfect game. They don't benefit, I don't think. – Muboshgu (talk) 12:36, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

I thought it was the uniform number initially. If these are staying, they should be listed as, instead of 37, "Age 37". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drbeechwood (talk • contribs) 19:38, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

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Dennis Martinez perfect game
For Dennis Martinez' 1991 perfect game, the description states "Martínez reached only one three-ball count." According to the play by play listed at baseball-reference.com (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN199107280.shtml), three batters for the Dodgers had a three-ball count.

They were:

Brett Butler in the 4th (7 pitches) grounded out

Eddie Murray in the 7th (7 pitches) grounded out

Kal Daniels in the 8th (6 pitches) struck out swinging

Here's the video on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWo7oC_BbTM).

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New subsection: "Combined near perfect games"
Greetings and felicitations. I just added a new subsection, "Combined near perfect games", which I hope will pass muster. —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:32, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Definition?
Does this article include the definition of a "perfect game"?

I didn't read the entire article, but I couldn't find a definition. If it's here, could someone please set it out somehow, e.g., in a section "Definition"? If it's not here, could someone please add it? And maybe when discussing the different variants of "near perfection", be careful to explain clearly exactly how each case does not meet the definition.

Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 04:04, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Imperfect Games
There was only one game listed in this section. I added one additional game, Mark Buehrle's April 18, 2007 no-hitter he faced the minimum 27 batters after picking off the lone batter to reach base via a walk. This section needs a full list compiled.

I changed the title to "Minimum Batters faced" as the term "imperfect game" does not appear to be generally used in this capacity. Searches of "imperfect game" yield results regarding Armando Galarraga's June 2, 2010 game not games where the pitcher faced the minimum 27 batters.

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