Talk:List of Mario video games by year

Reformat
After each game there was a description, the function of this description was never constant; I feel the best is to describe his role in the game as to explain how and where he appears.

The new format is:

Game Name (system(s)) Appearance Description

Or

Game Name (system(s)) – Region Information - Appearance Description

Rlk89 23:04, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Smash Bros. as a spinoff
I'm not entirely sure that Super Smash Bros. is a spinoff of the Mario series. It's true that the Mario series has the greatest representation in the Smash Bros. games, but isn't that just because of popularity? The only link I can see with the Mario series is the controls being simple for a multiplayer game. Toomai Glittershine 12:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Should we vote? Rlk89 12:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Sure. We can vote whether it says as part of the Mario series or not. I'll just mention that a "no preference" vote owuld keep it that way it is. Toomai Glittershine 13:12, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Super MARIO Bros., Super SMASH Bros. don't any of you see it's an obvious reformation of the name, Super Mario Bros.?! Keep it in the spinoffs section. Mariofan 13:17, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Not only that but he is considered the main character, the main bosses are mostly from the Mario series, and the Gamepro interview shown that Mario is possibly the main character in the series. Mr. Mario 192 19:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * That still doesn't make it a "Mario" game. Otherwise, games like Sega Tennis would be considered a "Sonic" game when it's not. Magiciandude (talk) 16:43, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

List seems incomplete
Where's Yoshi's Island? It's mentioned when it's re-released for the GBA... but what about when it was originally released?--Biggman15 06:50, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's full name is Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island.--Rlk89 00:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The sad part... Is that I knew that... But I still missed it... Sorry... :)--Biggman15 04:25, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Mario Kart Arcade GP 2
It's listed under both 2006 and TBA. If it's going to be released this year, then it's not TBA. It's it is unknown when it will be released, then it's TBA and the 2006 part is fancruft. Which is it? -- 69.233.222.102 03:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Every search I do ends up the same. The game doesn't have a release date yet. So, it's TBA. -- Jelly Soup 05:59, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Why is Donkey Kong listed as a spin-off?
Why is this the case? Isn't it the opposite, really? 85.230.32.136 02:55, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Your right how should we post the relation thou? --Rlk89 01:11, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Punch Out? Tennis?
Why are these games listed as Mario games? You don't play as Mario, nor is he part of the game aside from a cameo. -- Jelly Soup 02:37, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The article says:
 * Over the years, Mario has appeared in at least 130 popular video games to date, both with starring and less significant roles. Here is a chronological list of licensed games that Mario has appeared in.


 * Camios may support the plot or may play a small role in the game or the promotion of the game. Punch Out and Tennis include his camios. this list include all of marios apperances weather big or small. --Rlk89 01:04, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Helps if I read, right? Hahaha....ha.... -- Jelly Soup 07:09, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Should include Donkey Kong Country 2 then as well, right? --65.114.60.147 (talk) 10:01, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Seeing as I just happened across this article again, I think I must disagree with the wording. The focus of this article is supposed to be Mario games by year, not every Mario game that he has appeared in (which is fancruft). If I have no opposition or discussion, I will be removing all non-Mario games from the list. -- Jelly Soup 08:54, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Mario Games could be defined as games Mario Has appeared in.Rlk89 19:20, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * In pinball he's only in a bonus stage. So does that count as cameo? In movies a cameo origanally meant a non-speaking role (you only see their face, like the jewelry) but that has changed over time. In video games is a cameo a non-playing role or a non-speaking role? If it's a non-playing role then Donkey Kong Jr. doesn't belong.Mozepy (talk) 17:08, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Virtual Console
Should virtual console releases for the wii really be here, it is a VIRTUAL console, and it seems that so many of these games will just be here twice or three times. putting these is redundant, but i will not remove because i don't know if i am alone in this, but i'm putting in my two cents. --72.138.175.46


 * No they should not be removed, because they are official releases, and they should be treated as the Super Famicom Satellaview, because games that are released for the VIRTUAL console can be "new" in that they may have been previously unreleased. --Rlk89 00:56, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


 * They are official releases, but they are not new releases, I understand documenting where a game was release and it differs from the previous version in some way, but Nintendo has stated that they are the exact same roms as what appeared on the consoles years ago. If they were different in some way, I would understand the need for new entries. With that said, I would like to suggest a couple possibilities, a general link to the virtual console games list, or, adding a note beside game entries where the game was released for the virtual console in the exact same form as the previous, which would include the year the virtual console version was released, and possibly have it link to the virtual console games list. --FiveIron 06:36, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * They are not new releases, but they are official releases, official releases of a game that includes mario should simply be listed as official releases of a game that includes mario, regardless of new content or not. --Rlk89 23:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Also VC games get their own VC Rating69.136.128.185 19:35, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Mushroom Kingdom Hearts
This is not a game but an April Fool's joke done Electronic Gaming Monthly. The issue it came out in was the April one. And EGM is known for its April Fools jokes. Heck there is a wikipedia entry on it. I removed it from the list

WarioWare as a spin-off
I'm not sure about having them. They really seem more like spin-offs of the Wario Land franchise which gets a mention below the list than spin-offs of the Mario franchise. True, there are 9-Volt microgames but they feature more games than just Mario so you could use the same logic to put WarioWare on the Zelda games. I think I'm going to remove it if nobody disagrees. 24.159.39.11 18:56, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

"Release"
Every item in the very long bulleted list says "release" after the area in which is was released. Couldn't we get rid of the word "release" on after item and just have it say say "Super Mario Bros. - North America", or whatever? Useight 06:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It could be done, but the format is not a naturally understood format. If someone is just looking at a specific section of the article. they might not understand it as a release69.136.128.185 01:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Spin-Off
A spin-off of something has a completely different continuity than the actual. The actual continuity in the Mario franchise is the Main series. The only game Princess Daisy appears in that has an actual continuity is her debut, Super Mario Land, and she now only appears in spin-offs, including Party and Sports. --PJ Pete

Tetris
I've earned five lines on level nine of each of the three tetris games on NES and I haven't seen mario, nor do any of the sprites on the ROMs seem to look like him... Just wondering, does anyone knows the veracity of this, as in seen it for themselves? 216.114.134.137 06:59, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Super Mario Bros Frustration???
Where is this section to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.75.23 (talk) 19:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Ummm...
Y is the 2008 games missing?-SLJCOAAATR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.229.233.168 (talk) 23:29, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Title change?
Shouldn't this page be called something like List of games featuring Mario? SimCity is hardly a "Mario Game". Staecker (talk) 21:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * OK then- I'll move it. Staecker (talk) 14:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Upcoming games

 * Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix Jamz (Wii) - TBA
 * Super Mario Open Golf (Wii) - TBA
 * Mario Party 9 (Wii) - TBA
 * Mario Kart Double Dash Off Road (Wii) - TBA
 * Mario Thunder Tennis (Wii) - TBA
 * Mario Unleashed (Wii) - TBA
 * Mario Fight Night (Wii) - TBA
 * Yoshi's Adventure (Wii) - TBA
 * Baby Adventure (Nintendo DS, Wii) - TBA

Need I say more....?SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 14:13, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Are you gonna make articles about those video games? Noneofyour (talk) 13:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

No...That was vandal doing that i removed a long time ago.  Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R.  03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion for appearances vs playable character
The title of this article is "List of Mario games", I would suggest that this list be limited to game where Mario was either a playable or interactable character. Everything else such as cameo appearances (Mario is Missing) and the use of his likeness (SimCity DS) could be placed in an article titled List of Mario Appearances. How's that sound? If either of you continue to throw reverts back and forth I'll get an admin to intervene (I'm tired of seeing the exchange on my watchlist). --AeronPrometheus (talk) 02:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Er. I'm fairly sure a list of appearances where a picture of Mario appears is probably going to be useless trivia. As for the reverts, eh. SLCwhatever doesn't like me, so he reverts blindly. Not a lot I can do about it. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * How about putting cameos and appearances at the bottom this page then? I agree that there's no need to make a separate article for just that but I'm trying to get you two to play nice. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 02:27, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Because they're subtrivial, and the factual claims are often unreferenceable.
 * He's unhappy that I removed his unsourced upcoming games. There really isn't a compromise there; either there is a source for them and I have no objection, or there isn't and they don't belong here. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The issue isn't about whether there are sources, I'm sure many sites and publications document every time Mario has been seen inside and outside of a video game (For the record this article contains 1 whole reference). The issue is how deep this article is on the subject. Going just by the title, you're right, anything less than a playable or interactable version of Mario doesn't need to be listed. But since there's no practical limit to this article it can include them in some fashion. You don't like the idea of a separate article, so how about a sub-list on this article? --AeronPrometheus (talk) 02:50, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I had nothing against you for a while AMIB, but you're going about destroying articles. Change this name to List of Mario Appearances. End of story.  Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R.  02:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * This is not a discussion about how you feel about MIB, take that to his talk page. Do you have any objections to the lesser appearances being put at the bottom of the page on a separate list? --AeronPrometheus (talk) 02:50, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

This article could be easily sourced, but it's already on the bubble of what is actually useful. Adding a list of pictures/statues/looked-like-Mario list is just going to be hopeless, and mostly unsourceable except to fansites and game guides. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:08, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I say keep the cameos here, just change the articles name. AMIB, according to Synergy, we can use pictures from fansites.  Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R.  03:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Depends on the factual claim being sourced. They are a very poor source. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Most fan sites are unreliable, but some are. For instance some fan sites for Nintendo are so large that a liaison from Nintendo will actually communicate directly with staff on releases, details, etc. In those cases you have to use your best judgment --AeronPrometheus (talk) 05:09, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Three years later and the problem still hasn't been solved? Anyway, 'List of Mario games' implies a list of games that pertain to Mario, not any old thing he's been in. If we really want to keep what doesn't fall under that, then I support the name change to 'List of Mario Appearances'. As for sources, one could try hitting up the Super Mario Wiki. -- Jelly Soup (talk) 04:00, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Are we allowed to cite other Wiki's? If so, then that's a good idea.  Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R.  04:05, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Too be honest, I'm not sure. I assume that a specialized wiki could pass under the fansite rule. -- Jelly Soup (talk) 04:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hm. I'll ask someone who would know when they're on.  Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R.  04:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No. They are not good sources for anything. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No, not ever. Wikis can't source other Wikis that would defeat the purpose of sourcing altogether. You can have an external link to, say, the Nintendo Wiki from a page like this but you can't rely on what they say to support what we say. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 05:09, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, understood.  Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R.  18:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Golf should be removed from this list
With the announcement of Captain Rainbow it appears that the Golfer from Golf is not referred to as Mario. So saying that Mario is still the playable character of Golf is incorrect. We can leave in that he resembles him though. (Angry Sun)
 * Source? Skeletal   S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R.   Soul  02:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

 And there are many other sources. Now if the Golfer were actually Mario wouldn't it actually say that. (Angry Sun) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.64.40.199 (talk) 03:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. That's good enough. Skeletal   S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R.   Soul  04:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
I forgot who but someone has been changing around the 2008/cancelled games.I'm not sure if anyone else seen, but I have and fixed back.Noneofyour (talk) 20:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Missing some ports
Missing the ZX Spectrum versions of Mario Bros and Donkey Kong. 86.131.89.40 (talk) 23:59, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Mario
Mario power tennis for 2009 reference? Seems made up. IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 16:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Paper Mario Kart (Wii)
Why someone put up Paper Mario Kart (Wii) and Why?147.31.184.131 (talk) 11:38, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

and why did they put super paper mario 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.141.16.116 (talk) 23:42, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Mario Party 9 (Wii)
Are they making a Mario Party 9 for the wii?147.31.184.131 (talk) 11:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

It hasn't been confirmed yet, but I belive that Nintendo is just focusing on Super Mario Galaxy 2 right now.

Future Games
A lot of people have been putting false games like "Mario Party 9" and "Super Mario Galaxy 3". Please only post future games that have been officialy confirmed by Nintendo! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.236.149.114 (talk) 21:34, 3 April 2010 (UTC) Are the games "Bowser's Adventure" and "Super Smash Bros. 4" confirmed?

General format of the list.
I was thinking that the games in the list could be formatted in the following way: Game Name - "Regions"

E.g. under 1996 for Super Mario 64 we could have: Super Mario 64 - North America and Japan

and then under 1997: Super Mario 64 - Europe and Australia (or PAL regions)

Either that, or we could have seperate articles to show a list of Mario games by year in each of the regions seperately?--The Ultimate Koopa (talk) 22:05, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Metal Gear Solid Twin snake Mario
Mario makes and appearance in MGS: The Twin Snakes in Otacon's lsb. I just don't know the year. This should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.252.182.246 (talk) 02:00, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Upcoming Games

 * Super Mario Galaxy 3 (Wii U)
 * Super Mario Sunshine 2 (Wii U)
 * New Super Mario Bros. 3 (Nintendo 3DS)
 * Super Mario World 3 (Wii U)
 * Super Mario Land 4 (Nintendo 3DS) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.208.86.150 (talk) 22:25, 31 October 2014 (UTC)