Talk:List of McMaster University people

Alumnus list one
'''Hey everyone, this is the updated list of McMaster people that I have compiled. Some are already on this page.'''


 * Eric Agius - president of Nike, Inc. Canada
 * Lincoln Alexander - former Lieutenant Governor of Ontario
 * Julia Alleyne - medical doctor of Sport CARE
 * Ronald Ames - actor
 * Sonia Anand - clinician scientist
 * Charles Anderson - MBA program director of the faculty of management at University of Manitoba (1974); president and chancellor of Brandon University (1990)
 * Syl Apps - athlete
 * Timothy J. Aubrey - senior vice-president, finance of Fairmont Hotels and Resorts
 * Richard Bader - scientist
 * John Needham Blow - Wing Commander of RCAF (1941)
 * Leonard Blum - award-winning screenwriter
 * Paul J. Bognar - general Manager of Maytag and The Hoover Company, Canada
 * Roberta Bondar - Canadian astronaut
 * John Nicholls Booth - renowned magician
 * Marianne Brandis - writer
 * Harold Brathwaite - award-winning educator, director of education for Peel Region school board
 * Claude Brochu - captain in the Royal Vingt-Deux Regiment
 * Barbara Buchner - scientist, connaught medical research laboratories
 * Martyn Burke - film maker, novelist and journalist
 * John Candy - actor
 * Muriel Spurgeon Carder - first woman ordained in the Baptist Convention of Ontario and Quebec
 * Elva Irene Carrol - assistant vice-president of Merill Lynch, Canada Inc
 * Cecilia Mary Carter-Smith - track star, represented Canada in 1966 and 1970 at the Commonwealth Games
 * Teresa Cascioli - financial analyst; president and CEO of Lakeport Brewing Corporation
 * James Albert Chambers - free lance documentary photographer and teacher
 * Charly Chiarelli - writer
 * Douglas Coleman - scientist; researcher at Jackson Laboratory discovered genetic cause of diabetes and obesity
 * Philip F. Connell - vice-president finance of George Weston Limited and Oshawa Group
 * Samuel Ernest Darragh - professional football player for the Montréal Alouettes
 * Jack Darville - partner of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP
 * Roberto De Clara - conductor
 * Gordon Dean - elected Ontario Legislative (1981)
 * Paul Dingledine - first Canadian ambassador in Iran
 * Jim Dinning - executive vice-president of TransAlta Corporation; director of Shaw Communications Inc.
 * Tommy Douglas - politician
 * Robert C. Dynes - president of the University of California system
 * Kenneth Elston - nuclear physicist
 * Howard Engel - writer and CBC producer
 * Jay Firestone - chair and CEO of CanWest Entertainment
 * Stephen Foster - missionary surgeon in Angola
 * Wayne Fox - vice-chairman of CIBC
 * Jonathan Frid - actor
 * Marc Garneau - first Canadian astronaut, awarded Honorary Doctor of Science in 2005
 * Hertzel Gerstein - medical researcher
 * Daniel Goldberg - actor, screenwriter, producer
 * Patricia Green - NASA aerospace engineer
 * John A Hansuld - geologist, pioneered Eh.pH principles to exploration geochemistry
 * Marjorie Harris - writer
 * Richard Heinzl - doctor; founder of Medecins Sans Frontieres
 * Doug Henning - stage magician
 * Terrance Michael Hopkins - plant engineer for General motors, Canada; founder of AISCO (Advanced Industrial Systems Company)
 * Eric Hoskins - public health specialist, one of Canada's Top 40 Under 40
 * James Hutchings - Rhodes Scholar for Ontario; personal representative of the Canadian Prime Minister for the Economic Summit in 1989
 * Ernest Hutton - director of education for Hamilton Board of Education
 * Allan Jackson - owner of Jackson-Trigg wineries
 * Russ Jackson - educator, administrator and broadcaster
 * Simon Johnston - canadian playwright director and teacher
 * Kerrie Keane - actress
 * Roy L. Kellock - puisne justice of the Supreme Court of Canada (1944-1958)
 * Bartha Knoppers - lawyer
 * Jean-Paul Lam - economist
 * Gary Lautens - legendary Canadian newspaper humorist
 * Michael Lee-Chin - chairman and CEO of AIC Limited
 * Eugene Levy - actor, director and producer, awarded Honorary Doctor of Letters in 2005
 * Kevin Lynch - economist; deputy minister of Finance in the government of Canada, under Paul Martin
 * Margaret K. Lyons - renowned BBC and CBC reporter
 * William John Mahoney - assistant coach for Washington Capitals in NHL
 * John F. MacGregor - statistician and chemical engineer
 * Karen Maidment - executive vice-president and CRO, Bank of Montreal
 * Robert Marshall - engineer; national chairman of Canadian Institute of Food Science and Technology; H. J. Heinz Company
 * Lawrence Martin - journalist
 * Basanti Majumdar - AIDS researcher
 * Steve Mann - inventor and scientist
 * John Mayberry - president and CEO of Dofasco Inc
 * Keith L McIntyre - president of Mohawk College (1980-19??)
 * Dalton McGuinty - current Premier of Ontario, Canada
 * Leslie McLean - chief engineer and vice-president of Stelco (1975)
 * Ellen M. Malcolmson - president and CEO of Expertech Network Installation Inc
 * John Mighton - mathematician
 * Edward Minich - president and CEO of Otis Elevator Company
 * William G. Missen - senior vice-president of Stelco Inc
 * R.E. Munn - chief scientist of air quality research branch of Environment Canada
 * Bob Munro - founded Mathare Youth Sports Association in Africa
 * Heather Munroe-Blum - vice-chancellor and principal of McGill University
 * Hanna Newcombe - scientist; director of the Peace Research Institute
 * Elisabeth Nicol - physicist
 * Robert Fletcher Nixon - first elected Ontario Legislative in 1962; chairman of Atomic Energy of Canada Limited
 * Ronald R. Nolan - engineer; president and CEO of the Hatch Group
 * Samantha Nutt - founder and executive director of War Child Canada
 * James Orbinski - Nobel Laureate, Peace; was president of Medecins Sans Frontiers
 * John Harry Passmore - RCAF Squadron leader in World War II
 * Lawrence Pennell - flight Lieutenant RCAF in World War II; member of Privy Council of Canada, deputy government house leader and solicitor general of Canada
 * Howard Petch - academic administrator
 * Waldemar Pieczonka - physicist and engineer; directed IBM's first attempts in integrated circuitry
 * Elinore J Richardson - tax lawyer of Borden Ladner Gervais LLP
 * Ivan Reitman - film producer and director
 * James V Sardo - president and CEO of Firestone, Canada
 * Daniel N Sauder - chairman of department of Dermatology at Johns Hopkins University
 * Myron Scholes - Nobel Laureate, Economics
 * Donald Seldon - lieutenant-colonel of Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders of Canada (1940); recipient of Queen's Silver Jubliee Medal
 * William C. Shaw - co-developed IMAX film system
 * Martin Short - actor, writer and producer
 * John Sinclair - executive vice-president of Bell Canada (1983-1992)
 * David C. Smith - principle and vice-chancellor of Queen's University (1984-1994)
 * Marnie Spears - president and CEO of Ketchum Inc.
 * Richard Splane - RCAF pilot in World War II
 * Harley Mark Steubing - freelance TV news reporter (1982)
 * Geraldine King Tam - world-renowned botanical artist
 * Mark Wainwright - president of the University of New South Wales, Australia
 * Tayce Wakefield - vice-president of corporate affairs of General Motors, Canada
 * Robert Waugh - vice-president and director of General Motors, Canada
 * David M Wiles - scientist; awarded the Queen's Silver Jubliee Medal
 * Lynn R Williams - president of the United Steelworkers of America (1984)
 * Red Wilson - chair, Nortel Networks Corporation
 * Ronald Lynton Wilson - assistant commercial Secretary for Canadian Embassy in Vienna, Austria (1963-1965)
 * Mark Tarnopolsky - researcher of neuromuscular disorders, Creatine
 * Kathryn Taussig - founding member of Camerata, innovative chamber music ensemble in 1972
 * Robert Tebbs - World War II captain of the Canadian Army
 * Miriam Therese - renowned singer and composer
 * David Thomas - actor, writer
 * Bernard Trotter - producer, executive and member of board of directors of Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
 * James Viczian - vice-president of Baptist World Alliance (1990-1995)

YCCHAN 18:47, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Added to list, some corrections made. YCCHAN 23:16, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Removal of people on the list
User:GreenJoe has removed an entire lot of people by just stating they are "non-notable". That is only his opinion and not others. He did not discuss or allow other users to contribute/verify and just removed the names. Clearly, this page need sources and will be added over time. Wikipedia policy of having good faith should be exercised here.

I think he has some issues with similar pages of Canadian Universities. Obviously he would revert back to "his version" in no time. This obsessive behavior is not suited in Wikipedia. 219.77.171.34 (talk) 08:59, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * They're non-notable because they don't have Wikipedia articles, and the persons who added them failed to cite sources proving they are notable. The onus is on the person who adds them to verify notability and prove it to everyone else. GJ (talk) 15:57, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * This is Wikipedia where everyone contributes to articles. Removing them all won't solve the problem because nobody would know they ever existed. Just because whoever created this page has not provided references for every single person mentioned, it does not mean it should be removed. You said they are non notable just because they don't have Wikipedia articles. Well they will be notable when people start an article!!


 * Also, Wikipedia is not on a deadline. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:DEADLINE. See WP:NOEFFORT 203.218.213.127 (talk) 02:21, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The onus is on the person adding the names in to cite sources and prove they are notable. Otherwise they can be removed. End of story. Don't start an argument with me, I'll find others to back me up. GJ (talk) 02:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

In this situation where you add a name that results in a redlink (even after searching for alternative names), you have a choice. You either write the article and demonstrate there that the person is notable, or you demonstrate notability in a reference, and wait for someone else to write the article. If you do not do that, how are we know that the redlink is not about a student who flunked out last year and has no notability whatsoever? --Bduke (talk) 02:51, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Wait let me understand your statement Bduke. Are you in support for keeping the list or want it to be removed?
 * I thought I was clear. I am opposed to lists of this kind having redlinks unless there is a reference cited that clearly asserts notability. It would help of course if the reason for notability is given by the name as it was for several of the people being removed here, and that point established by the reference. E.g Joe Blogs, Member of Parliment, followed by ref that establishes that Joe was a M of P. We have to verify what we write. There can also be living person issues. So for this issue, for the items that the edit war is about, either write an article on them that gives notability or add a citation that asserts notablity. Just leaving a redlink with no cite is not acceptable. --Bduke (talk) 03:45, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Answer me this. What about the criteria of having good faith? And the fact Wikipedia is based on numerous people's contributions. Waiting for the person who created this page (i.e one person) to verify the links one by one will take a lot of time. Removing the list cannot possibly make things better. How will people know these people even existed? Sometimes common sense supersedes policy. 203.218.213.127 (talk) 04:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The information is still in the history. It is not lost. The policy is clear. Notability has been challenged by the items being removed. To put them back it has to be verified that the people are McMaster people and that they are notable. Please read the policies. I agree with GJ and so it seems does Kmsiever below. I'm leaving this discussion now. It was only on my watch list because of my involvement with one of the notable people on this list and his article. --Bduke (talk) 05:40, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * User:GreenJoe apparently reverts to his own edit version just because he has a different point of view. I have valid reasoning why it should be kept but he just says its up to the person who started this page. This fundamentally opposes the contributing factor of wikipedia! Also I don't need to be threaten when you say "find other people to back me up". I'm more than welcome to listen to other people's POV. I also think there are many people who think differently than you do. The discussion is not the end. 203.218.213.127 (talk) 03:16, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * And I have valid reasoning for why it should remain out of the list. GJ (talk) 03:52, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Which makes no difference because I have my own reasoning. Don't pass judgment on others. Wait and see what other people have to say. Also bringing other people you know to "back you up" will just make the decision skewed. 203.218.213.127 (talk) 04:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with what others have said. If a person is listed, the person should have a Wikipedia article, or the editor adding the person should provide a source. Either one establishes notability. Wikipedia is not a directory. See WP:NOT and WP:SAL for more information.--Kmsiever (talk) 05:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

John C Bell
Why does John C Bell need to be on the list, and where's the proof he's affiliated with McMaster? Me-123567-Me (talk) 03:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I added a source. :) Would you delete this whole article because it is completely unsourced, too? If you'd look John C Bell, you'd see where it says he received a degree at McMaster University. :) Finding sources isn't too difficult, and it is how to improve the content. To remove content without making sure that content is false (or unsourcable) means to risk losing helpful encyclopedic information. --PeaceNT (talk) 03:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Me-123567-Me and User:GreenJoe is the same person. Sockpuppets.
Evidence:


 * Please don't make accusations you cannot backup. I am not this other individual you claim I am. GreenJoe 03:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You want me to back it up? Just by looking at the edit times of user Me-123567-Me reverted the List of McMaster University people at 03:33 on 12 July 2008. See Evidence. User GreenJoe posted a warning template on the talk page of User Talk:203.218.216.163 at 03:32 12 July 2008. See Evidence How CONVENIENT that if you are not the same person, your posts are within ONE MINUTE APART? One cannot be dumber than this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.218.207.125 (talk) 01:21, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

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