Talk:List of NCIS episodes

Pilot broadcast
I read somewhere that the JAG pilot 2-parter was edited down into a single episode and aired during one of the regular seasons (presumably the first season). Can anyone confirm that? If true, it should be noted. 23skidoo 21:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I am not sure if that is true, but the versions I have seen in Australia have been in two separate 45 minutes episodes. Jayzamann 05:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

If the pilot deals with the death and subsequent taking of Air-Force 1, I can confirm that this was shown as one episode in the UK. (I realise this is an entry several years after the fact, but thought this brings more clarity to the issue) Tory88 (talk) 22:00, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Help
To anyone, who reads this: It would be nice if people who like NCIS could help with episode guides, screenshots and, beginning with season 4, to help filling the single episodes' articles with infos. TIA --SoWhy Talk 08:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Organizing Episodes
I think the episode list should be more like the one of M*A*S*H, with a different page for each season and a main page consisting of an overview of each season.

I am able to make this however if anyone objects to this please let me know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mhrmaw (talk • contribs) 08:10, 23 January 2007 (UTC).
 * First off, let me say thanks for uploading all those screen shots. Second, thanks too for starting articles on those episodes, I started myself on season 4 but work and study keep me occupied pretty much, so thanks for this great help.
 * So, to your suggestion, I'd say, that's not the most important and needed task. It works for Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis with more than those amount of episodes listed. I think a split should not be done before it is really needed, it just fragments things unnecessarily.
 * PS: Please sign your posts with --~ in the future :-) --SoWhy Talk 20:41, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Episode Page style
Hi there, fellow NCIS-fans. First off, thanks for creating new sub pages for episodes. On further pages, I would like you to consider using the following template so that all episode pages have a familiar structured look. Criticism is welcome, but please try to use it. Makes it easier. :-)

Template: "Episode Name" is an  episode  of the drama television series NCIS.

Plot
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Two Part Episodes
Is there any reason why two part episodes have to be in the same article?

Just because they share the same title does not mean that they are the same.

Doing this means a lot more information in the info box. Eg: This is from the info box from the episode Kill Ari

If it was on separate pages you would not have to specify who wrote and directed each part and you would not have two separate air dates.

It is not necessary to have them on the same page.

If you will see other shows such as Charmed, House and even Buffy the Vampire Slayer have two part episodes on separate pages. Mhrmaw 04:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * As MatthewFenton pointed out on your talk page, it is a consensus amongst other editors to do it like that, with shows like The Simpsons or Stargate (who have a large number of dedicated editors) doing it. Even if I did not agree with Matthew in the past and we had our little fights, I have to agree with him now and I think, we should do it like that.
 * As I already said, the question should not be "Is there too much Info?" or "Did they air together?" but "Do the share the same name?" and "Could they be shown consecutively?". For example, if the producers wanted to have episodes even if they end with "to be continued" separated, they used different names, like "Ice Queen" and "Meltdown". "Kill Ari" and "Hiatus" on the other hand do not only share the same name but could be shown consecutively.
 * The work you have with different directors and writers for part 1 and 2 is not as much as it looks like. Mostly such episodes share the same writer and/or director and it saves work with guest stars who usually are the same. Also, someone looking up a multipart-episode does not care for part 1 or 2 but wants to know everything that happens in it. That's why it's called multipart-episode because if you look at it, it's only one episode, but longer. See the "Ice Queen"/"Meltdown" example for those where this is not the case. --SoWhy Talk 13:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Cashed Out?
An episode entitled Cashed Out has been added to the episode list in season four, however according to TV.com and imdb.com no such episode exists.

Could someone please, either verify the existence of this episode or delete it.

Thank you. Mhrmaw 10:22, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that is an old name for "Blockback", it was listed at TVRage iirc. I corrected it with the TVRage Infos. --SoWhy Talk 17:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

references or sources?
The TV episode Switch has this message:

It's only a TV episode. Why does it need to cite it's references or sources? Mhrmaw 01:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It's nonsense. I removed it. --SoWhy Talk 17:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

deleted pages
Why were all the pages deleted?

This reason was stupid and not true. They were not copied from the site mentioned. I made a few of the pages and have never been there. Where can I discuss this? Lizzie Harrison 17:53, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, one of the users (I think Mhrmaw) did copy+paste content from TV.com into the articles and an admin deleted all of them because a stupid user tagged them for deletion. I complained myself and will get those wrongly deleted restored and I suggest you do the same here. --SoWhy Talk 18:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * See WP:UNDEL for the process to have those pages restored. &mdash; MrDolomite | Talk 18:53, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I've created the Pilot episodes as stubs, right now I don't have time to do the rest but you can quickly create the pages with this template:  which transforms into (an example page) Ice Queen (JAG). thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 11:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

End of Season 4 and Season 5?
Some edits from an anonymous IP have resulted in some new episodes in season 4, as well as some season 5? The edits have something wrong with the formatting, as well. Can anyone verify that this is not some kind of April fools joke? Where did this info come from? The same user put a section in the show's main article about a new character that supposedly replaces Gibbs, giving his name as Mark Thompson. He also blanked out the article on the actual Mark Thompson, Director-General of the BBC, since that is the name of this alleged character. If this information is correct, then fine. I don't know if it's true or not, so I'm not going to touch it. ----Steve 20:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * As long as there are no sources backing those claims, any adds should be removed or at least commented out using HTML Tags. As much as I don't like using WP:V for every possible info on Wikipedia, if information is given in articles about things people cannot check (for example by watching the episodes in question), a reliable source has to be cited in favor of it. As neither TVRage nor TV.com list any more episodes, these claims yet need to be verified imho. --SoWhy Talk 23:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Season 5?
If there is a season 5 should we make a second article because this is getting long?--Migospia 09:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. List of Stargate SG-1 episodes has 10 seasons in one article without problems. --SoWhy Talk 13:10, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Featured List
Hi there, whoever has a look here. I think, this list prospered quite well the last few months, making it a very good overview of NCIS's episodes. I thought thus that we should propose it as a Featured List Candidate. It needs some improvements still, like ALT-Texts for the images (see Featured list criteria), but maybe we can pull it off. What do you all think? --SoWhy Talk 21:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Expand / Plots
As mentioned by multiple persons here, most of the plot "summaries" are, at the moment, teasers, which do only summarize the first few minutes of an episode. Please help by changing those to 2-4 sentences-long summaries which include the most important plot developments if you are able to. As usual, if you have the time, please try to create more articles for the as of yet red-links (episodes without their own article). TIA. --SoWhy Talk 12:46, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I've begun expanding the episode descriptions, from Yankee White to Sub Rosa. Will do the rest of Season 1 when I have time to sit down and watch the DVDs, then will move on to the rest systematically.
 * Kouen 10:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! :-) --SoWhy Talk 12:06, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. :) I'm done with Season 1, room for improvement of course (always is) but it works. Will do Season 2/3 over the weekend. Kouen 16:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This was a mistake. A core policy is that Wikipedia is not for plot summaries. McWomble (talk) 10:16, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Season 5
Episode 5 - Leap of Faith - Air-date: October 23 2007 - Episode 99 Episode 6 - Chimera - Air-date: November 06 2007 - Episode 100

I tried to put it into tables but it did not work

Scoreed - Not logged in
 * I would add it but do you have a source for this information? (TV.com is not really a good source for such information because like WP anyone can add it without any source given) --SoWhy Talk 09:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * No the source is TV.com so it is very unreliable

Scoreed 09:31, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

More Season 5
IMDB list - Not a very reliable source but it is also stated across more websites aswell.

CBS wiki - Offical CBS NCIS Wiki site


 * Season 5, Episode 5: Chimera - Episode 99
 * Season 5, Episode 6: Leap of Faith - Episode 100
 * Season 5, Episode 7: Requiem - Episode 101
 * Season 5, Episode 8: Designated Target - Episode 102

Scoreed 09:26, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The NCIS Wiki might be another wiki but it is more reliable because CBS endorses it's existence. I have written a message to the editors who added those episodes over at the NCIS wiki and asked if they had a source for those episodes. We can decide after I get a reply :-) --SoWhy Talk 14:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5-7 can be also found on SpoilerFix. I added 5x05 now with a FutonCritic Press release and 5x06-08 with the four sources who mention them and a note that they were not confirmed. That should cover WP:V. --SoWhy Talk 17:19, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, it doesn't cover WP:V. This is highlighted in WP:V and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. The fact that the information is found in more than one source (in this case, four) does not justify their reliability or the verifiability of the information. In most cases, the information is copied from one site to another. According to WP:V, "Questionable sources should only be used in articles about themselves." CBS' wiki, IMDb and TV.com are all "questionable" sources as they can be freely edited by the public. SpoilerFix should not be used as a source on the account of the verifiability and reliability of the "spoilers". The sources used for any articles in Wikipedia must be reliable and verifiable, which do not include the CBS' wiki, IMDb, TV.com or SpoilerFix. -- Ladida 11:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You have not explained why SpoilerFix is not reliable, you just say they are not. Unless you can bring a good reason, I see none to exclude it, as they carefully review the spoilers and do not just include everything anyone tells them... --SoWhy Talk 12:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I did. I said that their spoilers can't be verified. Moreover, SpoilerFix is not notable. How do you know that they carefully review their information? And how do they know that their information is accurate? For any information on future episodes, we have to rely on press releases or material published by a reliable and reputable source, which does not include SpoilerFix. Regards, Ladida 23:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Tribes
Any reason or speculation as to why Tribes didn't air tonight? JanderVK (talk) 02:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the strike!

MyView (talk) 05:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm thinking it was either that (a last minute pull), or a more "controversial" reason. I was just wondering what others think, or if we can get some answers. JanderVK (talk) 11:04, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it's the 2007 WGA strike as well. Afaik Tribes is the last episode they have finished and I guess they hope to settle the strike within the next time or at least have something new for the new year (I mean before Xmas noone really cares for new episodes anyway). --SoWhy Talk 11:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Even though it was already filmed, they did not show it till tonight due to the strike. They don't know when they can show the next show, so they're showing reruns as filler. --MahaPanta (talk) 02:22, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Links to Individual Episodes
Why are the titles of each of the episodes linked back to the List of NCIS episodes page? If the episode pages were removed, why weren't the links? QuasiAbstract (talk) 02:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Now someone is using a redirect, and Tribes leads to Tribes (series).--MahaPanta (talk) 03:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Internal Affairs
Whoever keeps adding the killer in the episode, please stop, not everyone has seem the episode and not everyone wants it spoiled —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.223.174.64 (talk) 05:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Bit late, but yes, I did. For further references, see WP:SPOILER. --SoWhy Talk 17:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Spoilers
GODDAMN!!!! Cut the spoilers please. After _______'s death. What the hell. Come on... --74.237.227.42 (talk) 20:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:SPOILER. --SoWhy Talk 20:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Individual Episode Guides
It would be nice if each episode had it's own page with it's own episode guide and everything, which lists the guest actors and gives a plot summary and all that —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.100.222.182 (talk • contribs)
 * Yes, it would be. Feel free to do it, I stopped after 5x11 because I lack the time to do it. You are welcome to do it :-) --SoWhy Talk 17:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * A core policy is that Wikipedia is not for plot summaries. Also note that it is likely that each individual episode of a television series will not be notable on its own. McWomble (talk) 10:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

"A core policy is that Wikipedia is not for plot summaries." - I'd just like to add my (futile) protest to the wikipedians. I used to come here for the great plot summaries for a few TV shows. It's great to catch up on a plotline, as NCIS carries plots over many episodes. (Thanks for those now-deleted plot summaries, all concerned!) I liked the Wikipedia plot summaries because TV web sites are so commercially oriented and inconsistently written it's not enjoyable to browse there. So, since Wikipedia's alabaster hue can't be sullied with interesting information, can there be a PopCultPedia? All those popular culture items that Wikipedia is throwing away can be squirreled away there. And PS, I did not contribute to the recent fund drive... if you want my money, make me feel like the inner circle that runs Wikipedia does not look down on me and my concerns. - CG —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.66.227.183 (talk) 04:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Is there a reason why clicking on "Bête Noire" (Season 1) brings us back to the list of NCIS episodes page? I'd have thought it was significant since it was the first episode with Ari. Possibly better to redirect it to the first paragraph of "early encounter" section on Ari Haswari Linnah (talk) 23:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The individual episode pages consisted entirely of plot summary and trivia. A core policy is that Wikipedia is not for plot summaries. Also note that it is likely that each individual episode of a television series will not be notable on its own, simply because there are not enough secondary sources available. McWomble (talk) 10:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

In that case, why does CSI: Miami still have all its plot summaries? Why not wipe out people's hard work there, as well? Here's a clue, Wikipedia. Most people visit these TV sites to read the plot summaries - you're just shooting yourselves in the foot by deleting them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.152.143.216 (talk) 00:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * You're definitely NOT making a good case here by purposefully REMOVING content either, 141.152.143.216! First of all, you've accused people of removing content and stifling information (myself included!) Then, you yourself remove content in further attempts to vandalise the article. Please STOP. Edit Centric (talk) 06:59, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I usually come to Wikipedia for actor bios and plot summaries. I would like to know who the 'little girl' in Witch Hunt is. She looks very familliar, and i have been pondering it for a while. We should make seperate pages, it would allow me to recommend Wikipedia to over 250 people. --mininoipod

Season 6
Season 6 will have 28 episodes. The First Episode is rumored to be called Heartland - ''"A Marine gets in a brawl inside a bar. When the bouncers kick him out, he finds two Marine buddies barely breathing between the trash cans. One doesn't survive and the team is called in to investigate. Gibbs goes back to his home town, where we meet his father. Tony, Abby, Ziva and McGee also appear." '' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.109.189 (talk) 09:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

There is a problem with this "Heartland" episode. In season 2 episode Bone Yard, Gibbs mentions his father is dead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.141.150.2 (talk) 17:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * do you have a reliable source for that?  So # Why  22:45, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

No, just the episode itself. The episode description could be wrong, or the producers forgot that Gibbs said that, or Gibbs' stepfather died and his biological father is still alive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.141.254.251 (talk) 17:38, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * And where did you get that from? I have not found a press release stating such information and TV listing pages like TV.com or TVRage are reliable sources as anyone can add to them. If you have a reliable source, please feel free to add it to the article. Or tell here and I will add it :-)  So # Why  18:19, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There IS a scene in the episode where Jackson Gibbs asks McGee if the boss ever talks about him, McGee replies that he seems to remember Gibbs referring to him as "dead", then when Ziva gives him "that look", he does some back-pedalling; "or maybe it was "dad"..." Edit Centric (talk) 03:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll do it if I found a reliable source. Some people in Youtube and the NCIS official site say that the first episode will not be Heartland. They say it is called False Flag and it's about Ziva. I know the team will be separated for several episodes before returning with Gibbs. But for now, those are only rumors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.141.224.91 (talk) 14:58, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Exactly, only rumors so fare and thus we have to wait until we have a press release or similar. Can't be too long until CBS announces it.  So # Why  15:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

It is confirmed that Michelle Lee, Daniel Keating and Brent Langer are going to be Gibbs' new team members, according to the CBS press release. It appears the episode Last Man Standing will be the season 6 premiere. False Flag and Capitol Offense should be episodes 6.02 and 6.03. There are rumors that Heartland will be episode 6.04 and is not a hoax, but still there is no reliable source for this.

Season 6 Episode 1
There is a problem with the episode I saw. Correct me if wrong but have they already broadcasted this before either on the internet or TV. I believe I saw this episode already. I quite remember Lee having relations with Palmer and the situation of NCIS traitor before September 23.--68.103.153.82 (talk) 00:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

IP Edits Fixed...
Just letting everyone involved know that I've had to perform some minor maintenance on the article, the last IP edit added some valid new episode info, but removed a previous source citation for some reason. I used rollback to revert the source removal (see my rollback log here). The very next edit is me also, adding the new episode info back in. Edit Centric (talk) 07:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Individual episode pages deleted
What happened to the episodes that had individual pages? Every link just leads back to the "List of NCIS episodes" page, whereas before they used to lead to their own individual page. What happened to them? Those pages were good, there's nothing wrong with having them, is there?


 * That's a matter of opinion, I suppose. Since this list article has brief recaps for each episode, I'm thinking that's sufficient. For each episode to have its own page might be over-doing it a little, unless the episode was notable in some way, for instance being nominated for an Emmy award, being a pivotal episode for the entire series, etceteras. Edit Centric (talk) 08:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Simply being good/useful is not sufficient for inclusion in Wikipedia. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan site. The individual episode pages consisted entirely of plot summary and trivia. A core policy is that Wikipedia is not for plot summaries. Also note that it is likely that each individual episode of a television series will not be notable on its own, simply because there are not enough secondary sources available. Articles on a work of fiction should primarily describe it from a real-world perspective, discussing its reception, impact and significance. McWomble (talk) 08:54, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * And yet, television show upon television show on Wikipedia have detailed plot summaries for every single episode. Why are people picking on NCIS instead of, say, House or Futurama?  Maybe it's because NCIS presents an easier target with its lack of legions of fans undoing the edits of people with nothing better to do than being Wikipedia nitpickers?  Don't act all high and mighty quoting the rules until you've played in a bigger arena.


 * At tat tat, easy there. Let's remember our rules of civility for a moment. Besides that, McWomble's statement has some merit, aside from the Wiki-lawyering (McWomble, you might wish to temper the "the rules" approach with a bit of "I can see where you're coming from".) Again, this is Wikipedia, and NOT a repository for the same lengthy plot summaries and narratives that one can readily find on TV.com or elsewhere. Please see What Wikipedia is not. Edit Centric (talk) 01:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree entirely with McWomble. This isn't a fan site, yes, it's an encyclopedia, but an encyclopedia is a place of information, and in this case Edit Centric is deneying information from being put into place because he feels as though plot summaries are "too much information". What right have you to just come along and delete all of the individual pages like that? I made a few of those pages myself, and sure, this may not be a "fan site", it may be an encyclopedia, but frankly you are deneying it from being an encyclopedia to it's fullest extent. And what's more, why are you only doing this with NCIS, whereas other shows like House and Futurama each have individual episodes pages with episode summaries and everything, just like McWomble pointed out. if your going to make sure that the rules and regulations are all inforced, then do it universally, don't go and be picky about where you are going to uphold the rules and regulations, don't go and do it only with TV Shows that do not have "legions of fans"


 * WHOAH THERE! Put the brakes on for just a blasted minute, and go re-read your page histories. I never "denied" ANYTHING "from being put into place", as you inferred. I never deleted any pages. I simply adopted a position, and posited an opinion. As for the reversion of Wikilinking, this was done AFTER any individual articles in question may have been deleted, due to the simple fact that each Wikilink referred the "clicker" back to this article. Now, if I were you, I would do my research and due diligence BEFORE engaging in any finger-pointing.


 * That being said, I figure you must be kind of new to the Wikipedia community, due to your IP edit history, the reverted attack that I will cite below, and the fact that you didn't sign any of your posts. My suggestion to you is that you take the time to accomplish these simple tasks;
 * Sign up for a Wikipedia user name and password.
 * Learn how to read article histories.
 * Please sign your talk page posts with four tildes, so we don't have to rifle through page histories and diffs to see who made the comment.
 * Avoid LIKE THE PLAGUE, doing the same thing you did HERE. This unwarranted and baseless attacking WILL get you banned.


 * Once you've done this, we can hopefully avoid this same misunderstanding in the future. One parting question for you though, if you agree entirely with McWomble, then why the mis-aimed tirade at me? The one thing you might keep in mind is that I've been a "member in good standing" of the Wikipedia community since 2006. I know how to write and edit articles, I know what's expected, and how to work with others to make each endeavour a successful one. I do NOT however, have the power to delete an article. So when you accuse me of doing so, you'll understand if I laugh a bit. Edit Centric (talk) 08:24, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia: For the masses, of the few.
 * How long were those episode summaries up before they were, for lack of a better word, summarily deleted? And to repeat someone before me, how many times does one need to post the same words over and over on a talk page quoting the same rule - at the same time?  The rule isn't uniformly enforced over Wikipedia and wasn't enforced on the NCIS page for some time.  This is why I don't donate to Wiki - some opinions just don't seem to be 'good' enough. Mentor397 (talk) 10:34, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Unclear text in Season 4 Episode
The Season 4 episode "In the Dark" starts with the line: "A blind photographer's assistant", which has me wondering who is blind; the photographer (the assistant of a blind photographer) or the assistant (the blind assistant to a photographer). I really have no idea of which since I seem to always miss this episode when it airs. Someone who knows the answer should edit the entry so it is clearly understandable.Sings-With-Spirits (talk) 14:01, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The photographer is blind. I'll fix it. Regards  So Why  14:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

viewers column
Perhaps its jsut me, but the Viewers column seems a little harder to read without the " million" after the number of viewers. When you look down the list it just seems a bunch of numbers and is even harder to read with a [reference number] in blue right next to it. I prefered the other way. Season 1 Example    The Windler      talk   04:12, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The changes were made to the season articles by another editor just recently. This is consistent with many other shows and I don't see an issue with it. The column is titled appropriately ("U.S. viewers (millions)") so having "million" on each line is redundant. --AussieLegend (talk) 04:24, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed it because it is atypical and because of the same reason you give, it is harder to read, except that i find it harder to read with the repeating "million". Not everyone has a monitor with a resolution that allows that much content on a single row of a table and having million on each and every line forces squishing of the other columns at non-HD resolutions more than is necessary to convey the information. It is a bunch of numbers. That i do not disagree with. The heading is there to inform one what the numbers are about. Having "million" after each total viewers number would be equal to having "Episode" before each episode number because many shows these days use # and № in the heading (i'm not in favour of that). The accepted exception to this is when the story is by one person or group and the actual script is written by not exactly the same people and then there is used "Story by" and "Teleplay by" in the "Written by" column. delirious  &amp;  lost  ☯ ~hugs~ 05:40, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Season colors
The title might make you think, "What is this guy trying to get us to do now?" but after looking at the colors that define each season of NCIS here on Wikipedia, and looking at the colors that match the NCIS DVDs, I personally believe that it makes more sense if the colors were to match the colors of the DVDs (not that it really matters, but I myself like the idea). I have looked at other series on television on Wikipedia and noticed that many different television shows have different colors for each season, so I figure this should not make too much of a difference if I were to introudce this to Wikipedia. If I were to create a list of colors for the seasons they would be: Introductory Season 1 Season 2 Season 3 Season 4 Season 5 Season 6 Season 7 Season 8 Season 9 TBD, for now if this was to pass, I would change it because the lime green would not mix well seeing Season 8's color. And yes, if this were to pass, I understand that this would change not only the layout of this article, but the layout of every season's article and possibly a few other articles. However, do not think of this as some unnesessary idea by a crazy fan, I just think this is a good alternate, as I seriously don't know where Wikipedia got the colors for the seasons they have on now. 96.242.200.174 (talk) 01:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)


 * The colours currently used were added by another editor who (I think) based them on the colour of the "N" in NCIS. I think they are a better match than what you're proposing but others may have differing opinions. --AussieLegend (talk) 10:15, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't know, I just don't like the idea of having silver and white or whatever for the colors for the seasons and plus 1 to 5 seem to fit pretty well with the cover arts, I don't know what changed. 71.172.209.110 (talk) 02:57, 9 July 2011 (UTC) (Note, I am the same person as the person who created this section, I guess my IP adress changed)
 * I changed the season colors, because i agree with him. If seasons 1-5 are the colors of the box sets, why should seasons 6-8 be the colors of the ncis in the box set? that doesn't really make any sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvlover96 (talk • contribs) 22:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

request for creation of season 10 page
could someone start creating a page for season 10 even though most of the cast is unconfirmed! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.116.98.179 (talk) 22:31, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * What's the point. The Cast is unconfirmed. Episode titles are unconfirmed. Airdates are yet to be decided. Writers and directors are unconfirmed. What exactly do we have that we can put in the article right now? Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 00:20, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it's about time that we create a season 10 page. I mean all the cast has confirmed for Season 10, and we know the premiere date. I mean shows like Criminal Minds, Bones, and about 10 or so other shows have their season pages for the next season. So why don't we create ours, I mean it premieres in about 2 months. --Tvlover96 (User talk:Tvlover96) 13:40 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There is not enough content to justify the creation of the article at this time. Wait until there are some episodes scheduled. --AussieLegend (talk) 17:54, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well we know that the premiere is September 25, 2012, cbs's upfronts told us that a few weeks ago. Here's a link where the futon critic has episode air dates.. http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/ncis/listings/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvlover96 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The s10 premiere date is mentioned in this article. We can't justify creation of an entire article to mention that which is already mentioned. The dates at futoncrtic have no episode information attached. They're all just projected dates for episodes titled "N/A" and we don't base episode entries on projected dates. The premiere is 2 months away and it's just too early to create an article. --AussieLegend (talk) 18:50, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, well I guess it makes sense with 2 months not to create it. I get it. --Tvlover96 (User talk:Tvlover96) 18:51 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * If your argument is the fact that the season 10 premiere date is already on the main wiki, that date is repeatedly deleted off by Davejohnsan. Also, tv.com has episode summary, and cast/crew info, for premiere. http://www.tv.com/shows/ncis/extreme-prejudice-2516143/  --Punkminkis (talk) 00:41, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No, actually, it isn't; he was referring to this page, this episode list. However, the fact remains that there isn't enough information to justify making a season 10 article. We know when the season starts, but we don't know which episode airs on that date. Davejohnsan (talk) 01:09, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just because something is on tv.com doesn't mean that it's true. Tv.com is not a reliable source. --AussieLegend (talk) 08:30, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Episode pages
I was wondering if it would be possible to create articles for some notable episodes from earlier seasons. Nearly all of the separate episode pages that exist right now are for seasons nine and ten. --68.6.227.26 (talk) 22:43, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, simply create the articles if you feel like it. Right now I'm too busy to do it myself. Jonny2BeGood (talk) 12:23, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Season 12
Just out of curiosity, about a week ago I added a "Season 12" section at the end of the article with the information about the show's renewal, properly sourced. The edit was undone with the following statement:


 * "WP:CRYSTAL heading, section is redundnat to lead. (TW))"

Which I assume refers to the fact that the renewal is mentioned in the article lead. I can understand that, even though countless of similar show's articles typically include a "Season N" section when renewal is announced. However, a day or two after that, the exact same information was added. Why is that? Thief12 (talk) 01:34, 22 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Some editors can't control themselves. Single sentence sections that simply duplicate the lead and don't expand upon it serve no purpose. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 09:52, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

request creation of season 12
so the Season 12 title has been revealed......think it time to start a link season 12 as we already have enough info to start? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.0.164.58 (talk) 22:44, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Family First
I hope I'm doing this right by informing everyone but I wanted to make sure there are not duplicated efforts. I am currently drafting the episode page for Family First as it is a rather important episode in the series.Chrissymad (talk) 15:21, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Go for it, just make sure there are enough citations/references for the page to exist. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 16:10, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Season 14????????
Why is there no information about Season 14? MarineWife2010 (talk) 07:11, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Because we don't have any information. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 11:08, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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Splitting Proposal
I propose splitting the list into two lists, because the post-expand include size limit was exceeded. TheTVExpert (talk) 21:48, 12 April 2020 (UTC) PAGE ]]) 23:52, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
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