Talk:List of National Trust properties in Somerset

Sand Point & Middle Hope
Sand Point and Middle Hope are missing. As Brean Down and Cheddar Gorge are listed I'm guessing that this property should be too. Right? I just categorised a bunch of images of Sand Point on Commons, so there is a nice choice. I do like this one though which shows both places. --Bob Re-born (talk) 21:19, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
 * There are other NT properties eg Ebbor Gorge and parts of Crook Peak to Shute Shelve Hill but I was working from the list obtained from this list which lumps lots of them under Mendip Hills. Happy for others to be added as needed.&mdash; Rod talk 07:17, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Copy Edit Request
I'm handling the copy edit request for this article. As you can see on the "View history" tab, I've already started to reformat the "Properties" table to allow more room for the "Description" text, and I've fixed a couple of sorting errors in the same table (I still need to check sorting of the "Constructed" column).

In the copy edit request, Rod talk wrote, "my prose in the descriptions is sometimes overly complex and I would appreciate any help".

I've consulted with the lead copy editor; we agree that the main problem with the "Description" texts...they are too long. Specifically, they repeat too much information that can be found in the full article for each property.

Therefore, if everyone agrees, I will drastically reduce the length of the "Description" texts, leaving just enough detail to pique a reader's interest to look at the full article.

Here's a sample for the Barrington Court property:

Original Text


 * "Barrington Court is a Tudor manor house begun around 1538 and completed in the late 1550s, with a vernacular 17th century stable court. After repair by Alfred Hoare Powell, it was the first house acquired by the National Trust, in 1907, on the recommendation of the antiquarian Canon Hardwicke Rawnsley.[8] In the 1920s the house was renovated, the stable block turned into a residence and several outbuildings, gardens and gateways constructed. The surrounding medieval deer park and 17th century formal garden was had largely disappeared until a new garden was laid out by Gertrude Jekyll in an Arts and Crafts-style in the first half of the 20th century."

Revised Text


 * "A Tudor manor house with a vernacular 17th century stable court. It was the first house acquired by the National Trust (in 1907). During the 1920s, several outbuildings, gardens, and gateways were added." — Preceding unsigned comment added by LukasMatt (talk • contribs) 17:41, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Any help you can offer would be great however when I have taken similar related lists to the featured list process I have been asked to give more detail in the descriptions sections - see, for example, any of the sub lists of Grade I listed buildings in Somerset.&mdash; Rod talk 17:59, 16 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Rod, as you suggested, I looked at three random "sublists" of the article "Grade I listed buildings in Somerset"--specifically "Grade I listed buildings in South Somerset", "Grade I listed buildings in North Somerset", and "Grade I listed buildings in Sedgemoor". They are beautifully formatted...and they are formatted differently than the article "List of National Trust properties in Somerset" that I should copy edit.


 * Relevant to our discussion, these "sublist" articles have a very narrow "Ref." column, not a "Description" column.


 * My recommendation:
 * I will restore the "Image" column to your article "List of National Trust properties in Somerset" because I originally moved it to make more room for the "Description" column;
 * You should reformat your article so it exactly matches the format of the "sublist" articles;
 * Then, you can resubmit your request for a copy edit of your article.


 * --LukasMatt (talk) 02:37, 18 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all your help. I was really looking for someone to look at the text in the descriptions rather than the format of the columns, but I will continue working on it.&mdash; Rod talk 07:24, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

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