Talk:List of Nintendo DS Wi-Fi Connection games

Tales of Tempest
Since when was Tales of Tempest a Wi-Fi game?
 * A couple of months ago Nintendo sent out a press release on who was making wi-fi games. On the sheet it has a Namco RPG.  Tales of the Tempest is that game Jedi6 17:46, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Pokemon Diamond and Pearl
Was Diamond and Pearl ever confirmed to be Wi-Fi games? - Third Strike
 * No. But it was hinted at somewhere. Jedi6 07:22, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 *  OBJECTION!  Oh, Pokémon D/P was confirmed, alright! And I have the proof here! --BPM 05:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Games not Confirmed
If anybody finds a game on this list that has unconfirmed wifi features on it, please put "Rumored" next to the title.

Tetris DS
Tetris DS (THQ) is listed on the page. Sure, Nintendo announced it having Wi-Fi - but their press release makes it seem like they are developing it. Alot of Nintendo focus, and they name themselves as making it. In other press items they do mention other companies if other companies develop games they publish (not second party though)... any confirmation that THQ are making THIS Wi-Fi Tetris, or if THQ were doing one? --84.92.14.5 17:30, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It is being published by Nintendo. THQ isn't making any Tetris games right now.  I'm not sure they even have the license still. Jedi6 23:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer
Korra II Royal (talk) 06:23, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Shiren the Wanderer 4 and 5 are both missing from the Wi-Fi list.
 * Shiren DS2 was improperly listed as Shiren 2, which I also changed. The article says "Tentatively known as ...... for the USA" which is incorrect as it was never officially translated to English.

List of all Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection games?
I propose that this page become a list of all Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection games, not just the DS games. Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ 06:36, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose For starters there are no non-DS games yet on the Wifi-connection. Secondly other system articles have lists of online games so why can't the DS have its own list too. Jedi6  -(need help?)  06:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose. As Jedi6 stated, each system with online games has their own unique category. Just because it's a similar online service does not mean it has to be grouped into one. Additionally, what happened to the Category for online DS games? - A Link to the Past (talk) 06:45, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Took out Final Fantasy III DS
There was no source, and I believe it was supposed to be Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Rings of Fate. However, since I couldn't find a source for Wi-Fi information on Rings of Fate (I found mentions of it having online capabilities at the last E3, but no confirmation), I didn't add it to the list. --Trance 22:13, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * No, FFIII is a NWFC game. See the IGN page. You can see the logo on the box. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 12:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Splinter Cell Chaos Theory was never a nintendo Wi-fi game.

vandalism...
IP 86.137.51.60 added some vandalism today. I'm about to add the vandalism tag to the top of the page. CJ 17:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Just because of ONE person vandalizing once doesn't mean the page needs to be protected, I think you jumped the gun on that one, the user simply needs to be warned. MBob 05:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Romance of the Three Kingdoms Clarification
There are two distinct titles with similar names coming out in Japan: 三国志DS Sangokushi DS (Romance of the Three Kingdoms DS) by Koei. This is a continuation of their long running historical sim series. 三国志大戦DS Sangokushi Taisen DS (Romance of the Three Kingdoms Wars DS) by Sega. This is a virtual CCG (collectable card game) by Sega.

Of the two titles, Sangokushi Taisen DS (Sega) is the one with confirmed Wi-Fi capability, as seen on its official Japanese website (http://www.sega.co.jp/ds/3gokushi/home.html). Sangokushi DS (Koei) has 1-8 players local area play but no indications of Wi-Fi support, as seen on Koei's official japanese web portal, GameCity (http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/ds/sangokushi/).

I am editing the title of the game to contain "Wars DS" to differentiate it from the non-Wi-Fi Koei title and added the citation.

Off topic: more vandalism, added blatant vandalism warning. Neobolts 04:23, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Konami Classic Series: Arcade Hits
I removed this game when I came across this IGN preview (http://ds.ign.com/articles/740/740892p1.html) from October 2006 that states Konami currently has no plans to implement Wi-Fi play. It is possible that this could change before its release in 2007, but as of right now the game is not Wi-Fi enabled. Zomic_13 23:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

New Format Proposal
I am proposing a new format for this page to better organize the list of games. My proposal (a demo of which can be seen on my Sandbox page) would divide the games into two sortable tables. One table would feature already released Wi-Fi games while the other would feature the unreleased games. I feel that this new format would provide better organization and usability for the page. Thoughts? (please check out my demo before commenting) Zomic_13 15:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that organization system definitely looks more visually attractive and seems easier to use than the current one. Captain Goggles 00:13, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Wii as Wi-Fi Hub?
Does the Wii work as a Wi-Fi hub for the DS? The information I have seen so far has been very confusing. --Chris Griswold (  ☎  ☓  ) 22:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The Wii doesn't provide Wi-Fi for the DS, so it is not a "Wi-Fi hub". However, it has been stated that DS demos could be delivered to the Wii and then downloaded to the DS. Some Wii games may also use the DS as an additional, wireless controller. Zomic_13 02:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games
In Matt-IGN's latest blog entry he remarks how he has known about this game for a while and is excited that it has finally been revealed. See here:. In his post he happens to mention online play. Now this is certainly not official confirmation and it could mean just online for the DS or vice versa, but it is something to look out for. Zomic_13 03:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

FullMetal Alchemist Trading Card Game
When this game was announced, it was said players could play against each other, yet it is not on the unreleases list. It should be added. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Flaming Mustang (talk • contribs) 22:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC).
 * Play against each other over Wi-Fi or just local DS-to-DS wireless? If it is indeed Wi-Fi, then just find a source so it can be added. Zomic_13 04:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, here's the source from IGN Flaming Mustang 05:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, I added it to the list. If there are any other games you know of that are not listed, either post them here (with a source) or simply update the page yourself. Thanks Zomic_13 16:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Theme Park DS
I removed Theme Park DS. If this game does have Wi-Fi, then a reliable source will have to be provided. Of the ones that were provided before, one didn't even mention Wi-Fi, and the other conflicts with WP:V. I've checked many websites and have found none that mention Wi-Fi. I'm not opposed to adding the game if it does have Wi-Fi, but I can't find any proof that it does. Zomic_13 00:06, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Covers
Images in lists are considered decorative because they are only used to show what the cover looks like and not even discuss it. Covers have some relevance in the game article, but not in a simple list. It will also create a bad precedent, as there is no difference between a list of wi-fi games and the List of PlayStation 1 games, and someone would want to put the over 8,000 covers for that article. If you don't agree, feel free to drop by Non-free content, and try to get consensus for doing so. Thanks for understanding. -- ReyBrujo 21:30, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If there is critical discussion of the cover in the article, then the cover can be kept. That applies whether there is one cover or 50 covers.  If there is no critical discussion, then it cannot be kept. Johntex\talk 21:53, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The only explanation for the covers I found was here, where Having the box arts, even if they are on the small side, provides more information to the user. If the user does want to see the box art in detail, all he or she would have to do is click on the image to view a larger version. which, personally, is not a strong rationale. -- ReyBrujo 21:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * According to the Fair Use tags on the box art images, it is acceptable to use them to "to illustrate the packaging of the game in question". This is clearly what is being done in this case, which implies that it is perfectly ok to use them. Zomic_13 22:22, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The fair use tags in the templates are merely descriptive, they are not policy. The policy is written at Non-free content criteria. The subject of this article is the list of games, and the images are being used as decoration, as you have stated in the Wii page ("even if they are on the small side"). As precedent, all other video game lists don't use them, and therefore this should not use it. The "consensus" you talk about is basically you stating "it is fine". -- ReyBrujo 01:57, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Additionally, the templates state "please add a detailed fair use rationale [emphasis preserved] for each use". In addition to the licensing tag, all unfree images are supposed to have a fair use rationale explaining why they meet our policy on unfree content.  Meaning, they need to be compliant with the policy.  ShadowHalo 04:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

The cover arts are staying, end of discussion. :) Super World Champions 00:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Wish it were that easy ;-) -- ReyBrujo 00:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

The article does not discuss the covers thus it is hard to see how a case could be made within wikipedia policy.Geni 15:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * See List of The Simpsons episodes and List of South Park episodes and List of Stargate SG-1 episodes and List of Smallville episodes and...I could go on. All of them have dealt with similar issues to this, but decided the image may be used. (They have even become featured lists). Zomic_13 01:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That others are violating our guideline does not mean we should continue. It is well known that those lists abuse our fair use criteria, and modifications are being done to make that explicit. The fact that you continue adding the images even though five users have stated the images should not stay if there is no critical commentary indicates you are not willing to discuss. -- ReyBrujo 02:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * When you say "you", are you referring to me specifically? I am open to discussion about this and have only reverted the page once since the initial discussions started because a consensus had not yet been reached. Additionally, while I disagree with this decision I have never gotten angry about it - I've merely provided evidence which I felt supported the idea of keeping the images. Zomic_13 13:58, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, actually that part was meant to be a reply for User:Super World Champions, to whom I contacted several times and his only comment here was not really useful. Sorry for the misunderstanding. -- ReyBrujo 18:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. I assumed that was the case, but I wanted to double check as I want to debate, but not get on bad-terms with anyone while doing so. Super World Champions has gotten a little heated about this issue... Zomic_13 22:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I concur that the covers were being using decoratively, and use in this article violates Non-free content criteria.  Pagra shtak  06:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

In light of the recent consensus that fair-use images are no longer permitted in episode lists, I have started removing them from lists such as these as well. (ESkog)(Talk) 12:21, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Final Fantasy III
... is soon to come out in Europe 82.22.84.192 18:28, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Panzer Tactical DS is in Europe too. and Warhamer 40k is out now. (sry 4 my english it isn't very good atm. =))

Pokemon mystery dungeon2
That is wifi but it has a jap name211.30.135.108 09:54, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Flag of Canada
Well believe it or not Canada isn't a state of the united states. If Australia gets a flag shouldn't canada? I imagine there are also other countries where these games are available to.


 * The US and America Jr. get their games on the same day, which is why only the US flag is used. Another reason is because each flag represents one of the international Nintendo offices. There is Nintendo (🇯🇵), Nintendo of Europe, Nintendo Australia (🇦🇺), Nintendo of Korea (🇰🇷), and Nintendo of America (🇺🇸). Each of these offices may cover other countries (such as Nintendo Australia also covering New Zealand and Nintendo of Europe covering all the European countries). There is no separate Nintendo Canada, as Nintendo of America covers both countries and is headquartered in the US. -Zomic13 (talk) 00:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Download play games
This page was deleted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Nintendo_DS_downloadable_games

Does that make it inappropriate to start it again here? That information is as important as this page. Why isn't it here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.154.234.52 (talk) 12:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

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