Talk:List of North American cities by number of major sports championships

Name
This article needs a new name. my best shot at is List of North American cities that have fielded the most championship teams in the four professional sports leagues. anyone else have a better idea?Mercurywoodrose (talk) 19:48, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * derived from List of U.S. cities by number of professional sports championships, so this would be List of North American cities by number of professional sports championships.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 19:54, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Why not go with the original name, the suggestion is just copying the U.S. cities name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.234.136 (talk) 03:33, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Taking Away Titles For Teams Leaving
Plain STUPID!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.234.136 (talk) 02:09, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Table sorting
Is there any particular reason why you can sort the table by rank; city name; number of World Series victories; number of NFL championships; number of Stanley Cups; and total number of major league championships; but NOT by number of NBA championships? This applies to both tables on this page; all sorting goes in the correct numerical order except when you try to sort by NBA championships - then it lists Chicago (6), MPLS (5), San Antonio/Philly (4), Detroit/Miami (3), NYC/Houston (2), Boston (17), L.A. (11), then towns with 1 and 0. There isn't any obvious difference between the NBA column header and the others in the table code on the edit page, so I don't know what to do about this. Anyone good with this sort of thing? ☯.Zen Swashbuckler  .☠  19:38, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Is the sorting problem something about entering single-digit wins as 09, 08, 07, etc., so the 17 and 11 will rise to the top? Trobster (talk) 00:03, 1 February 2015 (UTC)trobster

Inconsistency in championships won in merged leagues
These tables count the championships of "The Big Four", but doesn't always include the championships that were won by teams in leagues that ceased to exist via merger. For example, Buffalo has 2 "NFL" championships when, in reality, it has 0; the championships that the Buffalo Bills earned were during their years in the AFL. Still, that is fine - those 2 championships should be included in the tables here. However, the Brooklyn Nets of the NBA were the New York (Long Island) Nets of the ABA and won 2 ABA championships. If the Bills AFL championships should be included in the NFL totals, then the Nets ABA championships should also be included in the NBA totals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.249.47.207 (talk) 16:48, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Boston and Foxboro are not the same place.
Boston has not won four Super Bowl Championships. The New England Patriots are headquartered in Foxboro, Massachusetts. The argument given for this is that Foxboro is a part of the Greater Boston area; however, Foxboro is 22 miles from Boston. Foxboro is actually closer to Providence, Rhode Island than to Boston. The logic used to give Boston the Super Bowl titles won by the Foxboro based team could also be used to give Milwaukee, Wisconsin claim to the championships won by the Green Bay Packers. Other cities within the New England area have just as much claim to the Patriots as the people of Boston, thus the only fair option would be to attribute the championships to the city where the team is actually located.Tntidwell40 (talk) 18:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.197.37.27 (talk) 18:06, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

CORRECTION: BOSTON: New England Patriots are 100% Boston. Foxboro is a suburb of Boston and play in the State of Massachusetts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.49.147.230 (talk) 20:12, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Inconsistency in NFL Championships/Super Bowls
The "Cities counting only teams they retained" only includes Super Bowls. Why is this?--206.82.167.147 (talk) 20:56, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Boston/Foxboro: Inconsistency in metro area definition
Looking at this table, it seems apparent that "cities" are defined as actual cities rather than larger metro areas. Smaller suburbs located near cities are separate: Anaheim teams are not counted towards Los Angeles totals, Oakland teams are not counted towards San Francisco totals, Uniondale/Newark teams are not counted as NY, so on. However, based on this logic why should the Patriots be considered a Boston franchise? They do not play in the city of Boston, nor are they explicitly called the Boston Patriots. Rather, they are the New England Patriots, and therefore could theoretically belong to any major city in the region. Foxboro, Massachusetts is located more than 20 miles from Boston - not only is this significantly farther than Oakland from SF, Anaheim from LA, and Long Island/Jersey from NY, but it's about equidistant from Providence, Rhode Island, which as a New England city has as much of a claim to the Patriots as Boston does.

My proposal: the four NFL championships won by the Patriots should be given to Foxboro, Massachusetts rather than Boston. Since the team is not explicitly named for a city but rather represents a region containing 6 different states, it makes no sense to arbitrarily assign it to a particular city just because that city happens to have sports teams in other leagues. The only reasonable course of action is to assign the team to the city it plays in. 167.206.19.2 (talk) 01:54, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

CORRECTION: BOSTON: New England Patriots are 100% Boston. Foxboro is a suburb of Boston and play in the State of Massachusetts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.49.147.230 (talk) 20:14, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Unbiased site combining multiple and equitable sources. https://bosnemausa.wixsite.com/citymostsportschamp/index — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.49.147.230 (talk) 03:26, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Long Island is not part of NYC
Long Island is not one of the 5 boroughs of NYC and thus the 4 Islander Stanley Cups should not count toward New York City — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.202.110.35 (talk) 11:00, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

NFL/AFL overlap

 * "NFL championships include all AFL & NFL championship games prior to Super Bowl I. The AFL is the only professional rival league to exist 100%. NFL championships include the Super Bowl from 1966–present, AFL championships from 1960-1965 and NFL championship games from 1920-1965."

Why include any AFL championships at all? Should it not simply be NFL 1920-1965 and Super Bowl from 1966–present? For consistency, it would be like including the WHA champions with the hockey totals (which also doesn't make sense).

Further, there has only been 96 championship years since the NFL's inception in 1920, but the list totals up to 101 winners. The article states "Championships are only from the preeminent league in each of the four major sports" yet football counts championships from two leagues during the same time period. Why? Sarke (talk) 01:48, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

"AFL Championships should count 100%, only rival league to exist 100%. You are missing AFL 1962 Champion Dallas Texans for Dallas NFL/AFL." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.49.147.230 (talk) 19:38, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Stanley Cup winners from 1915 to 1926
Arguably, the Stanley Cup winners from 1915 to 1926 could be counted since there is no overlap and it was the single, yearly, and ultimate professional championship during this period. Winning the Stanley Cup during this time period would be equivalent to winning the Super Bowl between 1966-1969 (also a multi-league championship) Sarke (talk) 01:52, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

North American Metro Cities By Major Sports Championships Link
https://metrocitysportschamp.wixsite.com/citymostsportschamp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.110.247.73 (talk) 01:22, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Inconsistency: Major baseball titles pre–modern World Series
If AFL titles pre–Super Bowl era are counted, so should major league (e.g., National and American leagues) titles won before 1903. For example, the Pittsburgh Pirates won the 1901 and 1902 NL pennants. Those are just as good (if not better) than AFL titles before the first Super Bowl. Blufftalk (talk) 04:22, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

time to include WNBA and NWSL
both leagues have been in existence for 10 years or more. Average attendance is growing and sometimes surpasses attendance of other major sports in the same cities.

Can anyone name a valid reason to continue to exclude these leagues? By what criteria are we defining a major professional sports team?

should we make a separate page for women's championships? Ctsinclair (talk) 06:02, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Better criteria to identify major team sports in North America
This list is inaccurate since there is no clear definitions of what should be included or excluded. To be included on this list, the championship in question must meet all of these criteria. Here are my proposed criteria for major team sport championships to include:

Professional - paid athletes and staff, not amateurs

Top flight - the league should be the top league within that sport for the given geographic area. No minor leagues. For example, Liga MX, MLS and the CPL are the top soccer leagues in their countries.

North America - the league should have a majority of teams located in one of the three most populous countries in North America - USA (335M), Mexico (132M) or Canada (38M).

Team Sport - it should be played on a team of more than 5 people on the playing area at anytime. This excludes NASCAR, Tennis

Home team - the team must play home games in one primary location. No travelling leagues. NASCAR and

Championship - One winner is determined through league playoffs or a top level tournament (early versions of Stanley Cup, Grey Cup, US Open Cup). Open cups are included. Promotional cups, corporate cups, and regional derbys are not included.

Gender - This list should include both men and women's teams

History - The current league or tournament should be in existence for more than 10 years. If a historical league, it should be merged into a current league. Folded leagues should only count if in existence for more than 10 or more years of championships awarded.

Attendance - For existing leagues, the current attendance for top 2 teams should be over 10k.

Team value - For existing leagues, at least one team with a value of over $50 millions USD.

Current TV Exposure - They should have games available on one of the following:

- Amazon Prime

- Bell Media  (CTV, CTV 2, ESPN Classic Canada, RDS, RDS2, RDS Info, TSN1, TSN2, TSN3, TSN4, TSN5)

- Comcast/NBC (NBC Sports, CNBC, NBC, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, Peacock, SYFY, Telemundo Deportes, Universo, USA Network)

- Disney (ABC/ESPN on ABC, ACC Network, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3, ESPN+, ESPN Deportes, ESPN Latin America, ESPNews, ESPNU, Hulu, SEC Network)

- Fox Corporation (BTN, FOX, Fox Deportes, Fox Soccer Plus, Fox Sports, Fox Sports Latin America, FS1, FS2)

- Paramount (CBS†, CBS Sports, CBS Sports Network, CBS Sports HQ, Nickelodeon, Paramount+)

- Rogers Sports & Media (Sportsnet East, Sportsnet Ontario, Sportsnet West, Sportsnet Pacific, Sportsnet One, Sportsnet Canucks, Sportsnet Flames, Sportsnet Oilers, Sportsnet 360)

- WB Discovery (TBS, TNT)

Ctsinclair (talk) 07:37, 23 October 2022 (UTC)