Talk:List of Omnitrix aliens/Archive 1

Talk page usage
Only put items on this page that have relevance to the omnitrix otherwise keep it to yourself or your own page. -- User:Darkrat Wikipedia watcher. Also Keep it to yourself if it does not pertain to inprovements the article. I'm going to clear out spam periodically.. Lego3400: The Sage of Time 16:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

WildMutt weakness
like some animals Dogs in particuler. wild mutt can be bothered by high pitched frequinceys. as revieled in epposode 14 Truth. Wildmutts are EXCTINCT. The great one destroyed cannonbolts planet, Vulpin, which is also wildmutts planet, why has,nt anyone thought of that!?! DUH! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.235.79.250 (talk • contribs).

Found a problem...
I noticed that the website said that Heatblast is the most used of the Omnitrix's aliens. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that Fourarms is used (or intended to be used) more than Heatblast. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.162.142.49 (talk • contribs).

Trivia
The trivia is way too long adn has almost useless annotions, if the creators did not intend the abilites to parralel those of the listed characters, then they shouldn't be moentiond. --Mishy Dishy 23:27, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

another question
On the newest episode on Cartoon Network, theres an alien that ben turns into, and I dont know what it is? Could some one tell me? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SerpentsTail (talk • contribs).


 * It hasn't even aired yet. Wait until then. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 20:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Now it did and nothing, Soooo.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SerpentsTail (talk • contribs).


 * I tried to put the info but failed in the layout... All the known info is there it just needs layed out right- Lego3400 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.170.1.82 (talk • contribs).

The new alien ("Camp Fear")
I should have done this hours ago. Until "Camp Fear" re-airs, the name of the newest alien is unknown. His name is not Wlid Vine, nor should it be included here as some nickname. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It is now Wild Vine For sure, Check the Credits. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.235.252.235 (talk • contribs).

in your face someguy.

I thought Ben called him "Twelvevine", but I could be wrong. Keyblade Mage 23:18, 10 October 2006 (UTC)Keyblade Mage

WP:RFPP
I'm not versed in Omnitrix but was responding to the WP:RFPP request. Could someone please explain to me the "Unnamed alien" thing and why "Wild Vines" is inappropriate? Would facilitate decisions on page protection. Thanks -- Samir  धर्म 05:33, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


 * In short, Wild Vine isn't an official name. It's just a random name coined by a anon that caught on. Despite my best efforts, it's gotten to the point where people just won't believe it's made up anymore. "Unnamed alien" is merely a placeholder to reflect the correct status, since Wild Vine falls under false information or original research (forget which). – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 06:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. Then it does count as vandalism as opposed to an edit war, and the page will be sprotected as per request -- Samir   धर्म 06:21, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Hopefully this will be cleared up on Sunday, providing the rerun gives an accurate credit sequence. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 06:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Can we unprotect now, since the matter was cleared up some odd 18 minutes ago? Pacific Coast Highway (blah • lol, internet) 02:16, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Might as well. It's confirmed now so I'm happy. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 02:18, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * So the name is definitely "Wildvine?"-- The Ninth Bright Shiner  talk 03:02, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Credits confirm it. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

XLR8
Is there any info on the face shield XLR8 uses. It always slides down before he moves at a high rate of speed. Possibly to allow him to see objects without the blur or something? Also it seems that Ben can't talk while the face shield is down. -K. Stone —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.163.0.41 (talk • contribs).


 * He's spoken with the shield down. Also, its purpose is fairly simple. It would hurt a lot to have wind hitting your face at such high speeds. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 20:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I like to think of it like the front windshield on a car. Not only does it keep the wind out, but also things like debris, bugs, etc. - User:sasuke-kun27 14:48, 24 June 2006


 * This also brings up some good questions on items the omnitrix creates for the alien forms, we know it creates or reorders Ben's clothing, and also, are those wheels on XLR8's feet?

The alians don't always have bens clothithing, as Dimondhead has a half white, half black full sute, while Ben's is white with a black stripe shirt. None of the alians have Ben's pants, the plant guy, Cannon Bolt, and Heatblast have no cloths, and in "Back with a vengance", when Ben turned into Gray Matter, his yellow shirt was still the same size, so he couldn't wear it, and the same happened for Stinkfly in the same episoide. Also, the wheels ARE XLR8's feet. And for the sheild, it is to keep his face protected, and he can talk, but it's slightly muffeld. Keyblade Mage 00:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC) Keyblade Mage

Oh yeah, ghostfreak has no cloths either. Keyblade Mage 00:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Keyblade Mage

yes he does, the second skin counts as his clothing.


 * i think that XLR8's species evolved that way, not that it has tech modifications, but thats how it is, also does XLR8 remind anyone else of that four legged race from the book series 'the golden compass' —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Felinoel (talk • contribs) 03:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC).

Greymatter is pointless.
Why is it that in the visual refrence that Vilgax makes in the episode "Secrets" there are no Graymaters? Because Graymatter is ment to repair machinery from the inside and there is no machinery to be repaired due to the fact that Vilgax's army is only using the strength of the Omnitrix. If the Omnitrix really is a prototype as some people have said and it is ment to be mass-produced, why didn't it's creators forsee tha fact that Graymatter would be under-used? Tell me what you think.--Sheep 14:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)Cryptosporidium-137


 * One does appear. Look again. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 18:42, 24 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Grey Matter can do more than repair things. It also knows quite a bit about biology and all science, since it was able to once defeat an alien by using pressure points. - Annonymous —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.164.254.77 (talk • contribs).


 * Grey matter is not Pointless, in the episode "Grudge Match" he got past the guards as GREY MATTER, and in "Secrets" he was Gray Matter and deystroyed a robot, grey matter is one of the best aliens in a way. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.235.252.235 (talk • contribs).

I believe part of Grey Matter's strength is that, being small, he is very likely to be underestimated and more likely to catch his enemies offguard. -- SeaFox

Besides, if you look closely at Upgrade's bio, he was made in an explosion on a moon from Galvan Prime, Greymatter's home planet. --Sheenfanficker

Gray Matter made the thing that is why he is there.

Theories About the Aliens
I'm removing this section. We aren't making theories here.-- The Ninth Bright Shiner  talk 18:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


 * well it is good conversasion Djf2014 23:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


 * This isn't a forum, it's an encyclopedia. Take it elsewhere if you feel you must discuss it. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * This is Ben 10, the guy who created that section. My apologies if I spoke out of turn.  I might add, though, that my theory about Pyronites "eating" fire did turn out to be correct.  Ben 10 2:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Regardless, we've not here to speculate on such things. It's up to the people who make the show to write out a bible for us to follow. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 19:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Well Excuuuse me! Ben 10 4:45, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Ripjaw's powers
Shouldn't we add something about above average strength and speed? Afterall, a normal human cannot punch full speed and power underwater, but he can. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.175.35.82 (talk • contribs).


 * Yes But Ripjaws is the only alien that can breath underwater, and thats it, hes only usefull if you have a problem underwater, and thats it. And to your question Yes but so can most aliens. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SerpentsTail (talk • contribs).

Is he the only one that can swim?

Gees
What IDIOT Changed Cannon bolts name to cannon ball? Thats a bonehead edit, and the images even say he cannon BOLT. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.235.252.235 (talk • contribs).


 * Why don't you check yourself in the page's history? And please sign your comments with 4 tildes ( ~ ).-- The Ninth Bright Shiner  talk 01:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Mutated Kevin
In his mutated form I've seen Kevin run fast,(XLR8)be super-strong,(Fourarms)spit goop,(Stinkfly)throw dimond needles,(Dimondhead)throw fireballs,(Heatblast) and give a vicious bite(Ripjaws). But is he super-smart (Graymatter)? Can he fly,(Stinkfly)shoot quills,(Wildmutt)turninvisable and phase through solid objects(Ghostfreak)--or take over machines(Upgrade)? --Sheep 12:12, 4 July 2006 (UTC)Cryptosporidium-137


 * Those are Unseen but it is likely, he does have all of the featutres the aliens have. SerpentsTail


 * I don't think that there is any Ghostfreak on his body.--Sheep 22:37, 9 July 2006 (UTC)Cryptosporidium-137


 * It's hard to see, but he does have some of the "Ghostfreak" lines on his body. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 21:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


 * If you simply look at his body structure, you'll see evidence of the others. Stinkfly's wings, Wildmutt's arms as his lower pair, Upgrade's shoulders, Ghostfreak's eye track lines and his right eye is difinitively Grey Matter, as are the small ridges on his cheeks.::::

Kevin can fly, shown in "Back with a vengeance" Keyblade Mage 00:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Keyblade Mage


 * I don't think Kevin can have ghost powers. I think that he can rip of his skin wear ghostfreak's lines are.
 * but is kevin has dna from ghostfreak, that means that it could live on and seperate from kevin like it did ben, so i dont think kevin has ghostfreak in him felinoel 03:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

New Alien Possibilities
If the watch was built to contain 10 alien's DNA why does it have Canon Bolt and Wild Vine? The obvious reason I just realized is it can absorb DNA. It got Canon Bolt's DNA after the Tick thing had come to Earth from that alien's planet. Wild Vine's DNA is that of a vegetation-like creature, which is what the giant fungus monster was, which he was in contact with. What do you think of my theory. It seems to be the most likely way. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.91.155.84 (talk • contribs).


 * If it just absorbed DNA, then it would have transofrmed Ben into tha tick and a mushroom, respectively. It already has the DNA stored within it. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No one ever said the Omnitrix only contained the DNA of 10 aliens, it just came about that he could only access 10, which makes me wonder why they call it Ben 10, when they changed the whole premise of the omnitrix.

I think that it's a good theorie from the both of you.--Sheep 00:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

no there is going to be a new alien on the omnitrix. he looks like the green galactic enforcer guy. you can see him sometimes right before you watch ben 10. dont get fooled. he looks like diammondhead but he is not sharp, he has different colors on his chest and his voice is different nevermind i just found out that it was gwen 10 sorry --Hunter132 20:01, 21 August 2006 (UTC)Hunter132


 * ben ten is just ten because it rhymes, like in the episode titles, "gwen ten" and "kevin eleven" felinoel 03:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * upchuck and benwolf are the new aliens coming soon. benwolf picture is not avaliable yet as it will arrive in season 3(name apparently hasn't been confirmed). upchuck however is suppose to arrive in the last episodes of season 2. he is a green and there's a picture of him on http://www.atamaii.com/ben-27213.html as a toy


 * I'm fairly confident that the writers intended for there to only be ten forms at first, then came up with new ideas and so decided to allow Ben to "unlock" new forms. To do this, the writers took advantage of the mysterious alien nature of the Omnitrix, such that ten forms were originally revealed and the rest would result from accidents and experiments.
 * On a personal note, I think it would have been better for Ben to start with one form and gradually unlock the rest, rather than instantly figuring out all of the original aliens' abilities by the end of the first episode. 'Course, I'd also have preferred a continuous storyline over the current episodic format, but that's just me. You Can&#39;t See Me! 07:17, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * the pilot episode (and original idea) is usually always much different than the way things turn out, so yea they might have originally thought to only have ten at first felinoel 04:51, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I've seen the episode introducing BenWolf. The Omnitrix can absorb DNA, and this episode clearly shows this.  When the alien werewolf makes contact with the Omnitrix it begins to glow with a golden light.  Based on the episode, there is a period of adjustment before the DNA is assimilated into the device.  If the end of the episode is any indication, once assimilation is completed (the device reappears), Ben then has complete access to that particular alien's powers and abilities.  Kometman 02:45, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think the Omnitrix absorbs DNA. When he got BenWolf, the werewolf's alien bite was a just a trigger or key. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.224.11.172 (talk) 23:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC).


 * Yes, I believe the Omnitrix does absorb DNA. The Cannon Bolt and Wildvine theories have a good point; however, the Yenaldooshi alien did transmit DNA. The alien's ability is to infect others, which is why Ben involuntarily turned into Benwolf. Yet Ben still acquired the alien on the Omnitrix. The same goes for the mummy alien in "Under Wraps." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mummycrypt10 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC).

I think it makes sense that the omnitrix absorbed canonbolt and wildvine. I think when the tick...type....thing, destroyed cannobolt's planet, the DNA from a cannonbolt somehow was moved by a wave of the explosion and found its way to the omnitrix, thus the omnitrix absorbed it. and also, when he got wildvine, the vines used had florauna DNA on it from a florauna it cuaght, the florauna DNA was caught, then the omnitrix absorbed once it got a hold of it. when it turned gold, i think it was just computing the DNA so it wouldnt end up getting a mind of its own like the ectonurite.

Ghost freaked out
Shoudn't there be another picture of ghost freak and do you think ben well us him again


 * In order: I'll find one and maybe. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I think Ben will still use him. The "real" Ghostfreak died, but it was only a genetic strand of DNA. It still needed to become "whole", so it tried to posess Ben and gain WORLD DOMINATION!!!!

Thanks someguy
 * it is noted that ben possibly doesnt use ghostfreak because the sentient ghostfreak 'died', but this is not the only possibility, perhaps ben is just too weirded out and scared of the possibility of it returning felinoel 03:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

NOTE: The Ghostfreak seen in this episode is an external rendering of Ghostfreak, as, remember, the Omnitrix transforms Ben into the alien's body. GF's being sentinally lives within DNA.

Juding by the fact that Ghostfreak hasn't appeared since the episode and Ben didn't transform into him when he unlocked the Omnitrix's master code - but every other alien - I think its safe to say Ghostfreak's death has essentially erased his DNA from the Omnitrix now. --4.154.39.151 01:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes I'm sad to say he is dead....for now but I have a strong feeling that he'll be back partly because they have a battle alien colletion fig' planed for him AND DON"T SAY 'CAUSE THEY JUST WANT A WHOLE SET 'CAUSE THEY DON't HAVE A RIPJAWS PLANED! user:lord ciron

They have a ripjaws planned now. Check and see for your self. It is safe to assume now that they wanted a complete set, or they wanted to include ghostfreak as a VILLIAN! I am scared

No! you lied to me 'ben 10 toys.net' I'll never trust you again! user:lord ciron p.s. who the the heck said that their's gonna be a ripjaws!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Skin disorder
You got that from Squrriel Boy If ben was Ghostfreak and ripped off his skin, right before the Omnitrix deackivates, would ben be skinless?
 * Anonymous time & cretr-Muhah-ha-ha-ha-haa-aaa...(oh...did I type that instead of think it...sorry)

Well, in the episode "Ghostfreaked Out", Ghostfreak ripped off his flesh and revealed his true form. So no he wouldn't.


 * i am not sure how this explains why ben wouldnt be skinless, but ben possibly wouldnt be skinless because the skin would be like ben's clothes, perhaps after ripping off the skin, the next time he changed into ghostfreak the skin would still be off felinoel 03:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Maybe, when ben peels back Ghostfreak's skin, he's acually peeling back his clothes and showing what Ghostfreak looks like.Darwin 22:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)Cryptosporidium-137

Thats if he can even become Ghostfreak any more! Evidance suggests he can't (We don't see him after he inputs the master code and now it has been removed from the opening) but that is only speculation, becuse he could also have decided to never turn into him anymore. Lego3400: The Sage of Time 04:41, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe, if Ben peeled back Ghostfreak's second skin, right before the omnitrix powered down, he woudn't have clothes on! - Hyuuga-sama 00:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)hyuuga-sama

Man, you guys are sick. And just to be clear, that's not a compliment. -- Ben 10 14:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

im trying to be funny.

Omnitrix
should their be a theory page beacause i noticed that every time ben gets a new alien hes presses the activation button twice go to my page to talk about a theory page--Goren of the stone 19:31, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I like that idea.

i i now it is a good idea infact im almost certain in the episodes he turns into the new aliens he hits the activation button twice--Goren of the stone 21:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

o yeah its probably right and i think vilgax may have created the omnitrix and i have other theories so this is why we need a ben 10 theory page like every time ben hits the activation button in a row 10 more aliens pop up or pressing the white buttons in certain orders like vilgax did to disable it and the white buttons could unlock aliens to would a human be on the omnitrix and i think that the omnitrix has millions of alien forms in it to including a human--Goren of the stone 21:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia isn't really about making theories or speculation, so we can't have a theory page. But there's nothing stopping you from going to a forum and sharing your ideas!--  the ninth bright shiner   talk 03:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * And We don't Mean on here!Lego3400: The Sage of Time 03:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I tried to add theories on the aliens a while back, and even though they were deleted most of them later proved to be correct! For instance I pointed out that a star would lack an ecosystem (heck, even one rae existing there is a miracle), so Heatblast's race probably ate fire. Lo and behold, I was right. I also suggested that Upgrade was an artificial lifeform. I wasn't quite dead-on with that one, but I was close. -- Ben 10 14:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Rip Jaws
Shouldn't Ripjaws have another power. Because right now all he can do is swim fast and take gaint bites.


 * That may be so, but none of the other aliens can swim so efficiently. We don't even know if the other aliens can swim at all!--  the ninth bright shiner   talk 03:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Although we've seen Grey Matter swim for a little bit in "They Lurk Below". Also, Ripjaws' most useful power is his ability to breathe underwater. --Andsean 08:03, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * and that is why he is not seen very often. - Hyuuga-sama 21:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)hyuuga-sama

Say wha?

 * Two others, Benwolf and Upchuck, a green alien with black eyes and gills, will appear in the third season, but no information is available on them.

Can anyone find some proff for this? Pacific Coast Highway (blah • Snakes on a Plane) 04:31, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Here. I'll ref it. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:34, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you, have a nice day! Pacific Coast Highway (blah • Snakes on a Plane) 04:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I didn't believe it at first, either. Seemed too uncreative. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Meh... Pacific Coast Highway (blah • Snakes on a Plane) 04:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, they have added Subzero, an ice-like alien that has been confirmed to appear in "The Omnitrix's Secret". I think he is the opposite to Heatblast. 71.252.61.2 03:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

New sections?
I was wondering, would it be worth the trouble making sections for the "combined" aliens? I mean, we only saw three combinations so far, but the show has obviously hinted that Ben may get more fusions in the future.
 * I don't think it was that obvious... It was more like Ben just wishing he could do it properly. I think the fusions were a one-time thing, and don't need separate sections. --DarkfireTaimatsu

Was Dimondhead's Weakness shown/ HIdden Powers
I can not remember him ever being shattered, even then he is still invinsable. Also HoverBoard said that Ben was not near having DimondHead's full potentiol, so does that mean that all of the Aliens are actully not being using to their full potentil, and that there are still powers Ben has not shown? 67.33.96.143 01:03, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

When Ben fought Vilgax and he swapped from alian to alian, he punched vilgax three or four times, and it broke, but he fixed his arm. Also, for the potental powers and weaknesses, it only lists the ones shown by Ben. Keyblade Mage 23:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC) Keyblade Mage

when fourarms was battling kevin 11(as diamondhead) kevin shattered a little.

like heatblast(female?)
It was one of his species. but how did he get on board. the speices is generaly from a star, woulden't it be to hot to get within transporting much less landing distance. witch brings up the following, how was heatblast's DNA sampled?141.154.96.115 17:02, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

You're dealing with physics in an fictional dimension that deal with alien technology, advanced races, and a small degree of magic. Don't trouble yourself with it. You Can&#39;t See Me! 07:22, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

But I want to, it is fun.HHS.student

Heatblast can fly like a rocket by projecting flames from his feet. Therefore, more adventurous members of his species might have flown to planets.

How? They'd be snuffed out in space just like putting a jar over a candle, right? -- Ben 10 14:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

they probably had a spaceship made of rock, which they traveled in.

Alien hair
When gwen went Greymatter and Fourarms in Gwen 10 she had her usual red hair. But when Ben goes either theres only what appears to be a dark stripe on their heads. This could be something that is in the males of their species or added by the omnitrix but Ben has hair so why doesn't it show up in his aliens? Darwin 20:52, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Well don't you think Gwen would look ugly if she didn't have hair? User:phantasmo_375
 * It's likely that the Omnitrix blends part of the user's DNA with the stored aliens', which partially explains the outfit changes for each alien as well. (Purely speculation, of course, but it seems a reasonable explanation.) --DarkfireTaimatsu
 * OR, its because she is a girl, and as you can see, the aliens she changes into are girls as well felinoel 04:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

New Alien Profiles
Could someone make some profiles for the new aliens in season 3? I would, but I don't know how.
 * If you're talking about Benwolf and Upchuck, since Ben hasn't yet discovered them, the only thing we know about them is their names. If you're talking about Spitter, the Megawhatt, and Arcticguana, we don't know much about them. The Megawhatt is the one we know the most about (due to them featuring in "Tourist Trap"), and even then, the Omnitrix version might have other powers.

Cannon Bolt Race
The show called Cannon Bolt an Arburian Pelarota, but this says differently. They're both canon so, which is correct?

go with the show I mean they only CREATED the character (not yelling) Darth EJ 20:56, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Wildmutt is the Vulpin bandai just never really cares what they shit out.

Spitter
Ok, I looked at the alien list & someone hase the new aliens on there, but one more thing the alien that you guys think is possibly Upchuck it's not. the aliens name is Spitter acording to the cretids. User:phantasmo_375 spitter and upchuck are 2 different characters.User:Peppy kid 15:44, 30 December 2006 (UTC) ??? then how come they both have the same powers? that would be a waste of the omnitrix's space. hey that rhymes! sorta! Maybe Spitter is the Ben 10,000 upchuck and upchuck is current ben's spitter. Maybe it's the same alien, just younger and older versions.

Anur Phaetos
Might the second part of Ghostfreak's home planet be related to Phaeton in any way? (My spellchecker sure thought so.) The fictional planet in the list is especially intriguing... It sounds a little more likely than "phantom". The two don't really sound alike to me. --DarkfireTaimatsu 21:21, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Megawhatt's weakness/powers
As seen in episode 06 "Tourist Trap" Megawhatt can also send powerful sonic/sound waves. In the other hand it also should be added that he is powerless inside non-condutive objects, and that he needs to recharge on electrical equipment to get his powers, the more he recharges, the more powerful he gets. --AlmaMater

Number of aliens
Ben 10k had 10k aliens, and Gwendylon said that Ben 10k mastered the Omnitrix so wouldn't that mean the Omnitrix has 10k aliens?

Wha? User:phantasmo_375


 * I agree, she said that Ben 10,000 has mastered all the secrets of the Omnitrix, both unlocking all alien heroes (a total of 10,000) and discovering the master code, which allows him to change and stay alien at any time, for any time he wants to. The big question is that if he has indeed unlocked all aliens, shouldn't Ghostfreak be part of that arsenal? I think that is a bit obvious, otherwise there would only be 9,999 aliens. -- AlmaMaterno!Gwendylon said "allmost" mastered all the secrets of the Omnitrix,the omnitrix still holds ghostfreaks dna so ben can still turn into ghost freak its just ben is just too affrad to use ghostfreak because of what happend in "ghostfreaked out"!!!The guy right under me is right.

Mabye he still has Ghostfreak but dosn't use him. User:phantasmo_375

May be the 10,000 alien is Ben in human, other aliens would consider Ben to be an Alien that or it is just easier to say 10,000 rather than 9,999--Addude 06:37, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The human form is not an omnitrix alien. -- AlmaMater
 * or maybe it is like how it is now, when ben is still called ben ten, and yet he does not only have ten aliens, i think 10k is just a rounded number felinoel 05:01, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Are you all sure it's Cannonbolt and not cannonball I thought i heard it has Cannonball

benwolf fills the space of ghostfreak.

What i don't understand tho, is what about the mummy alien? maybe it was already on the omnitrix and ben didn't become it in that episode because he hadn't unlocked it yet, and it scratching it and showing up on the omnitrix, was a hint of it being there. - user Shadowv70

Speculation and Error Warnings
Since Ben 10,000 came out, there as been in this page too much speculation that do not serve wekipedia interests: First: Why someone called Megawhatt, Omniwhatt? If you are gonna change it and it's true, give us evidence. Second: Why did someone said that Ben 10,000 can't use Ghostfreak, that is pure speculation, we must make this page what we see from the episodes, and not a product of our imagination. Third: "Beeing Dead!" is not an Ectonurite weakness or disadvantage. -- AlmaMater


 * I swear, one mischecked box for a few days and this page goes to hell. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 01:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I suggest the locking of this page due to vandalism, someone continues to change Megawhatt to Omniwhatt without explaining himself. The lock would also help some re-adjustments on the page. --AlmaMater

sorry 'bout that but every place I look he's called omniwhatt and besides wouldn't that make sense 'cause he's a MAGAWHATT in the OMNITRIX (User:lord ciron)

Ghost Freak might still be in the Omnitrix
In Midnight Madness Subininmo say "who are you, wheres that walking shadow guy" to the hypnotized upgrade. This might mean that Ben can still become GhostFreak but choces not to any more so he can't escape again, so thats why they repACed GostFreak with Cannonbolt in the opening sequence- Red SPider MAn, DEc.3 at 7:25

Ha Ha Ha,you heard that wrong he said, "What happened to the guy who looked like a walking Shandalere". He was refering to Diamondhead. User:phantasmo_375

O.k. so i heard it wrong but it might be a possibility

Maybe, We just have to keep watching and find out. User:phantasmo_375

Or you could take the more likely option of he said "What happened to the guy who looked like a walking chandelier?" Kidcorona 14:19, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Upgrade
IN Midnught madness upgrade went into a light post to the clock (I think it was the clock?), so wouldn't he have the power of electrical transportation- Red spiderMAn, Dec. 3:37 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.16.89.117 (talk • contribs). No, he just traveled along the wires.

Upgraded
I think we should add the pics. of the future aliens ben 10,000 & ben have like Cannonbolt, Heatblast, Fourarms, Ect. Under the now aliens. User: phantasmo_375

sorry for cutting you off, i agree though, but mabey under the curret picters with the sub tittle (Alien Name) as seen in Ben 10,000 HHS.student

Thats what I mean. User:phantasmo_375

Then can someone do that i do not have the pictures that are needed for this project. HHS.student

Mabye I was Wrong about I said. I meant to say was that the aliens that ben & ben 10,000 have and under the origial pic we should put the future versions. Example:

NAME: XLR8

Home Planet: Kinet

Species: Kineceleron

Destription: Ect.

Picture Future Picture

Advantages: Ect.

Disadvanages: Ect.

Ben 10000
Has anybody noticed that in Ben 10000 Older Ben never used a new GhostFreak, does that mean that all aliens that are related to GhostFreak in a way are gone, or what?--SerpentsTail 03:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

He didn't show some other aliens, and he stll might be afraid to use Ghostfreak too- Redspiderman 12/21
 * afraid? ghostfreak died felinoel 03:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

We don't khnow if the DNA strand was destroyed- Red SpiderMAn 1/2

Thd DNA could be a ecturite personality, so the DNA strand must of been destroyed - shadowv70

I'd be afraid to use Ghostfreak too. If some alien took you over when you turned into it, would you want to try it again? I doubt it. -- Ben 10 14:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Upgrade sighting
In ben10k about 3 mins. into it you see an upgade, should we put down if the speices is extinct, like cannonbolt?- Redspiderman 12/21 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.16.89.117 (talk) 02:07, 22 December 2006 (UTC).


 * Well, no, because they're not extinct. Otherwise, they wouldn't be around. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 02:13, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

But we haven't even seen another cannonbolt- Redspiderman 1/5

but we also havent seen another xlr8 or wildvine- icylizard49

yeah but in the big tick they said that they destriiod cannonbolt's home planet, aslo we could put sieces existince unknown- Redspiderman 1/16

Homeworld does not rule out all other members of a species. We can assume that they have a space program because of the reaction the Tick followers had. So, just because the homeworld is gone, does not render that species extinct. 76.177.216.62 06:50, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

But if Cannonbolt is from Vulpin, wouldn't that meen Wildmutt is extinct? - shadowv70

I don't think he's really from Vulpin. The scriptwriters decided Cannonbolt was an Arburian Pelorota, so as far as I'm concerned that's what he is. The toy info is off-kilter. -- Ben 10 14:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Upgrade Fusions
Does anyone think that some of Upgrades mergings be shown on his bio? You know, just to show how his abilities work. Also, can he fire pulse rays when merged? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.224.9.182 (talk) 19:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC).

Yes he can fire pulse rays while merged. That is a good idea, but Im not doing it.--SerpentsTail 18:04, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

If I can get any screenshots, I will do it. I made this section when i was logged out. Thanks for the pulse ray information!--WikiLiger

Wildmutt's Strength
Shouldn't we add that Wildmutt has superstrength? Son of Kong

Nah. Hes strong, but not superstrong. --SerpentsTail

He is superstrong, he may not be as strong as Diamondhead or Fourarms per se, but he's strong. Son of Kong

It's time
I think that it may be time to archive some of the older stuff i'd say anythig before the begining of OctoberHHS.student 14:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Guys
I have requested omnitrix to be semi-protected who agrees? Djf2014

me (not loged in but i am HHS.student) we should archive some stuff before this talk page gets to long

We have proof
Ghostfreak is GONE ben does not have him and I have proof:When ben gets the omnitrix back in back with a vengence each of the forms in the omnitrix's silloetts appear and ghostfreak is not in there.Djf2014 14:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

just because he's not on the face dosen't mean it's gone. Remember that the alien additions where not shown on the faceplat until they where transformed into. It is possible that the omnitrix noticed a problem with the D.N.A. sequence and is trying to isolate his personality genes. By the way, this is not a forum. User:HHS.student (Not loged in)

No what I am talking about is the same sequence you see in the season 3 theme song when ben gets back from the null void. Djf2014 14:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC) P.S This Is proof not theory

SO maybe the omnitrix is trying to restore it? Red SpiderMAn 2/2

I don't think so Chaoshi 05:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Highly doubtful, especially since I still can't fathom how the universe's greatest scientists couldn't forsee that the anatomy of an Ectonurite would be a problem do to the hive-mind nature of the DNA. I mean, you'd probably have to study quite a lot of biology in order to make the Omnitrix, doubly true if you're directly inputting the DNA. I'm sure that somewhere in alien textbooks it says "An Ectonurite's conscious can still remain intact in a single strand of Deoxyribonucleic acid." -Javo- 69.212.246.169 22:17, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Are you agreeing with me or not.

I highly recommend to watch the "UnderWraps" episode. At the end of episode when the Omnitrix absorbs the Mummy's DNA, the GhostFreak's addiction is showed on the faceplate. What do you think about it? User.Malutki6013

The Ectonurites' homeworld is very dangerous. According to the article, no one has ever gone there and come back alive (the sample for th Omnitrix must have been either taken by a probe or taken from a wandering Ectonurite that was captured). So maybe the creators (or perhaps just Creator) of the Omnitrix didn't know about that problem. -- Ben 10 17:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Benwolf
Sorry to all about some of the screwed up Benwolf information earlier today, however, I was not the one trying to vandalize anything, nor was I the one who screwed up some of the XLR8 information. And can someone please add a picture of Benwolf if they get the time, I'm not sure how. BlueX511 18:54, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I think it wont be until someone posts "Benwolf" on "Youtube". After that you can copy it.Chaoshi 05:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Benwolf's Name
Does anyone think Benwolf's name may be based on Beowulf? Should it be put on the article? Chaoshi 01:25, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


 * His name is Ben. He looks like a wolf. Ignoring the obvious for the exotic is stupid. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 01:28, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

That sounds too plain for me. I mean, it's not as plain as a name like "Fourarms", but it's even plainer Chaoshi 05:02, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, pretty generic names. Though I can't think of many better. Let's see: Wildmutt, Fourarms, Grey Matter, XLR8, Diamondhead, Stinkfly, Ripjaws, Upgrade, Ghostfreak, Heatblast, Cannonbolt, Wildvine, and Benwolf. Pretty much stringing toghether words in an uninteresting fashion. 68.254.138.229

Yeah, but Grey Matter's article says that his name is a play off of real Grey Matter Chaoshi 06:17, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Because that, again, is a quite obvious reference. He's a tiny little genius. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 06:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah. What someguy said. Ben bases the names on the aliens features and powers. - Kai hyuuga 21:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC)kai hyuuga


 * Wow, Kai, that is the smartest thing i've ever heard you say. - Hyuuga-sama 01:58, 20 February 2007 (UTC)hyuuga-sama


 * Is that an insult or a complement? - Kai hyuuga 02:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)kai hyuuga


 * Balance. - Hyuuga-sama 02:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)hyuuga-sama

oh. - Kai hyuuga 00:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)kai hyuuga

Please fix!
For some reason, the "New Aliens" Heading's been really screwed up. Someone put an example image, I suppose. It also messed up the Benwolf section. And I can't edit it! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.254.138.229 (talk) 16:25, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

Wildvine Powers
Should it be put that Wildvine can burrow underground? Or does that go without saying?Chaoshi 06:29, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

* Can grow any part of his body at will, allowing him to stretch his limbs or grow thorns from his body.
 * Has sharp claws which can be used to cling to most surfaces.
 * Carries regrowable seed bombs on his back that either explode, make a smokescreen, or release sleeping gas.
 * Can leap a fairly long distance.
 * Can dig and go underground to attack.

It does. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 06:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Ben 10,000 DNA Labs
I wonder if it is worth mentioning, but-

You know how Ben got his Benwolf by sampling DNA? Well, in "Ben 10,000", there is a DNA Labratory (where Vilgax is stored). Do you think that it's possible that that is how Ben 10,000 got his aliens? Very possible, in my opion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.38.38.8 (talk) 01:30, 22 February 2007 (UTC). ME TOO!

Sounds possible Chaoshi 05:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll bet he somehow absorbed Vilgax's DNA at some point, and used that form to destroy Vilgax. Think about it. Even with the master control in "Back With a Vengeance" he couldn't do much more than keep Vilgax off-balance. But with Vilgax's own power turned against him plus all the other aliens, Vilgax wouldn't stand a chance. I wonder how Vilgax ticked Ben off enough that Ben went so far, though? Maybe messed with someone...close...to Ben (maybe that's how Ben got so stand-offish. He figured it was too dangerous to form connections). Vilgax had to have ticked him off somehow. If Dr. Animo and the Circus Freaks were still alive, Ben must have lost it to do so much damage to Vilgax. Maybe I'll write a fanfic about it. -- Ben 10 14:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Upchuck powers
Do you think Upchuck will be able to eat anything with the help of his great digestive abilities? Chaoshi 05:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Most likely. Bandai says that anything absorbed by Upchuck becomes acid. So most likely he can eat more things to produce extra, er, "liquid". -Javo- 68.251.96.187 01:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Future Alien Name
I saw that the future Alien, "Spitter" was changed to "Loogie Man". Another name Ben suggested for the alien's name. I think we should say it is unnamed but has suggested names. After all, Future Ben didn't name his new aliens prior to meeting his past self. He thought it was immature. Chaoshi 22:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

In the credits, the alien is listed as "Spitter". Therefore, that is it's name.


 * Why did they list it? It never had any lines, right?  -- Ben 10 14:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Alien Warriors
Should we add images for the cyber aliens in "Game Over"? You know, when Ben and Gwen go into the games, Ben as Sumo Aliens. Should we add their pictures since they are different, or is that a little much? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.224.11.172 (talk) 23:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

I'm divided on that idea. Maybe. Maybe not. Chaoshi 01:26, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

No, because they are basically just costume changes. Upgrade doesn't even change. -Javo- 68.249.98.115 15:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you could add them to the Episode article, if there is one. - Ben 10 17:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Aliens act different. (WEIRD!)
I have noticed something. All of the aliens have different personalities. Fourarms is heroic, Heatblast is a hothead, Stinkfly is crazy, and Greymatter is smart. Not to mention Ghostfreak's evilness. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.224.11.191 (talk) 15:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC).


 * I don't think any of the aliens have difrent personalitys. The only ones with diffrent personalitys are Greymatter, Wildmut, and maybe Ghostfreak. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.205.216.222 (talk) 15:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC).


 * Ben is a crazy, heroic hothead on his own. Intelligence is essentially Greymatter's power, and Ghostfreak didn't seem to do anything evil until he gained enough strength to resist Ben. You Can&#39;t See Me! 07:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, but you'll notice that Ben often phrases things certain ways as an alien that it's hard to imagine him saying as Ben. I'm not sure how to explain it, but basically he might say the same thing in different words.  It's like a style of writing, I guess.  Plus we know Ghostfreak had a personality because Ben was always freaked out when he turned into him.  It's hard to nail down the exact nuances of his behavior, especially since the different bodies influence how he moves and stuff, ruling out a lot of his non-verbal communication when he goes alien.  I think all the aliens' personalities are in there, to a degree.  Just like in Animorphs: when someone morphs an animal, they get the instincts.  The creator of the Omnitrix probably set it up that way so whoever wore it would be able to instantly adapt to each form.  For example, Ben didn't have to adjust to being larger as Heatblast or Diamondhead-he automatically adapted, whereas a normal person even going through a regular growth spurt will be clumsy.  And wouldn't you be clumsy if you suddenly had four legs like Stinkfly or five like Wildvine?  Ben wasn't.  He never gets tangled up.  By contrast, if the Omnitrix had ended up in the hands of a quadruped, such as an Andalite, the user would be virtually helpless in forms like Diamondhead and Heatblast unless there were a similar system.  See what I mean?  -- Ben 10 14:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Wildvine Weakness
As shown in "Super Alien Hero Buddy Adventures", Wildvine seems to have a large aversion to fire. This is proof of fire being a weakness, so please don't delete it when posted. -Javo- 68.251.110.236 18:52, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Changeing it around
You can disagre with me, but I think Cannonbolt should be moved to the main alien list since he's in the theme song. Ghost freak should be in the killed off alien list (not that they are gona kill off any other aliens). Im sorry if my spelling is bad.

alien mummy.
should we put a section for the alien mummy in the omnitrix's aliens? it was sampled. i dont remember the episode name but i know the alien mummy was sampled. so should we add it? - Hyuuga-sama 17:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)hyuuga-sama

Lets Caill the thing Mumm Ri for now. We have to caill it somthing, don't we?


 * Why the rush? - Ben 10 17:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

omnitrix samples
In the episode Under Wraps when the mummies DNA was being downloaded I saw Ghostfreaks picture. That must meen Ghostfreak's DNA must still be in the watch. User:phantasmo_375

Did you? Hmm, I'll have to take another look. I wonder if Ectonurites are somehow related to that mummy's species. They have similar behaviors, right? They both like the dark, they look similar, they appear to be hostile, and they are dead. -- Ben 10 13:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

similiar????????? -- Hyuuga-sama 03:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)hyuuga-sama

Oh, I almost forgot they can both control other life-forms. -- Ben 10 13:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Alien Mummy Powers
One of the mummy's powers is to make organic life slaves to him. That is an advantage, so could whoever is deleting that, stop? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.114.110.8 (talk) 03:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC).

That wasn't his power, it was the element's he was using. I doubt Ben's version of the guy will come with the corodium preinstalled.

Agreed. Anyway, I don't think Ben would stoop to such tactics. He's a good guy, right? -- Ben 10 13:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Mummy's weakness
Liquid nitrogen? That shouldn't count, that could kill ANYTHING in large enough amounts. Being as Ben hasn't even used the thing yet, we should hold off on listing its weaknesses. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MechaV (talk • contribs) 05:27, 11 March 2007 (UTC).

I agree, but when i try to change it, someone keeps changing it back, whoever keeps doing that, STOP IT! freezing doesnt count! - Hyuuga-sama 04:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)hyuuga-sama

Is Petropia really a portmanteau of Petro- and Utopia?
Take a look at the article for Utopia and look especially at the origin of the word. It is roughly Greek for "no place", where "Ou" means "no" and "topos" means place. If you take the "U" from "Utopia", aren't you left with only "place"? Therefore, doesn't Diamondhead's Petropia just mean "rock place" with no reference to "Utopia"? -- Lilwik 23:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Hint of Ghostfreak returning
They said that The Mummy alien apered the same way the Wolf alien did. They could be apart of some hallowen-esqu alien orginization. Ben might get alien DNA from a vampire alien, a frankensteins monster alien, and a ghost alien which is most likely Ghostfreak!

I was thinking about that and it is possable for that to happen.

Well, I'd say it's pretty obvious that Bnwolf and the mummy are connected. -- Ben 10 13:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

In underwraps when the omnitrix is sampling the mmmy's DNA you see a ghostfreak silowet (shadow)- Red 3/22

Omnitrix Catagories
Should the Omnitrixes Catagories be changed I mean Technacly Ben are the creatures the omnitix is only fictional tech maby Ben should have his own page and not just the omnitrix. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Supersketch (talk • contribs) 00:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

mummy ALIEN???
is the mummy alien really alien? cause it was exposed to curodium, but wasnt mutated, thus, it could have been a human mummy mutated and re-animated by it. - Hyuuga-sama 03:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)hyuuga-sama

If you listen to the commercials they call it a mutated Alien mummy.

Yeah. Besides, what would the mummy be doing in that part of the world? My guess is that the thing was in cahoots with the alien Ben got Benwolf's DNA from. They said in the episode that they appeared in a similar manner, right? Thy probably wouldn't have pointed that out if it weren't important. -- Ben 10 13:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Monster Weather/Upchuck
Alright now whoever it is that keeps changing Upchuck's appearance to Monster Weather, please stop it! It's not true and it was started by a group of morons on the internet with no lives, please don't believe them. Ask anyone who's already seen the episode in the United Kingdom, Upchuck does not appear, only Fourarms, Heatblast, and XLR8 make an appearance. 24.3.239.76 13:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC)