Talk:List of Omnitrix aliens/Archive 2

Wildvine Advantage
Not so long ago, I got to see an episode that I missed, the episode with the little hypnotist Sublimino. I noticed that when Ben went Wildvine after snapping out of the trance, Sublimino attempted to order him around. Now, did this not work because Sublimino was assuming Wildvine was already under his control and not actively hypnotizing, or was it due to some plant characteristic of Wildvine that makes him immune to hypnosis? Or, possibly, does Sublimino's invention not work on plants? Magugag 06:02, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Like you said, Ben went Wildvine after snapping out of the trance. Sublimino never got a chance to hypnotize him since then. I personally think that Wildvine has a mind that is more affinite to plants and fungi than to humans (hence why the Fungal Brain could communicate with him as Wildvine but did not communicate with Max or human Ben), but unless that's confirmed, it can't go on.  You Can't See Me!  20:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Good point! Hopefully the main site will have more to say about Wildvine and other aliens soon enough, but for now, yeah, I'll agree it's probably best to leave that out. Magugag 22:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Mummy Alien
I've noticed that the section on the Mummy Alien keeps changing at a rate that strikes me as abnormal even for Wikipedia. For one thing, sometimes the picture is of the alien itself and other times it shows the Omnitrix downloading it. And this morning for a minute it was identified as "Jewel Chest." I'm guessing there is some sort of a back-and-forth going on between two users, so I'm just gonna ask them one thing: WILL YOU MAKE UP YOUR MINDS?! Thank you. Ben 10 13:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * There's no minds to make up. Or, rather, a better way is to say that this character does not yet have an official name. If you go back a few months, this same sort of thing went on with Wildvine too (although Wildvine's was answered fairly quickly). Without an offical name, we can only call it "Unnamed mummy alien". Anything else would be pure speculation, which is unbecoming of an encyclopedia. --DarkfireTaimatsu 18:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * But how can we make people understand this? It seems that if you want to make the name "Unnamed mummy alien" stick you have to get into an edit war with those who favour "Rahotep". -- Lilwik 03:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Word Chaoshi

I'd just like to know who the hell it is who keeps saying the thing's name is Rahotep and that in appears in "The Return". :/


 * You could look through the history for that answer. --DarkfireTaimatsu 21:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. On the matter of speculation, does it qualify as "speculation" to point out that there seems to be a connection between that mummy and the alien werewolf Ben fought, since the characters on the show said themselves that there might be a connection? -- Ben 10 08:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd say not, since it's somewhat confirmed in the show. As long as the show (or certain official merchandise) mentions it, I don't think it counts as speculation. (Well, technically, it is speculation, but it's still within the show. At any rate, it should be fine.) --DarkfireTaimatsu 18:33, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * OK. I made a note of it, but someone deleted it.  I'll try again.  BTW, concerning the two pics of the Mummy Alien, I like them both.  Maybe both of them should be in the article.  What do you think?  -- Ben 10 22:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Where did the name Rehotep come from? I mean Ben hasn't even transformed into the mummy alien yet. I think people shouldn't edit stuff about the mummy alien if the episode hasn't even aired yet. Sunspot13 20:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) People are getting the name Rahotep because apparently (I don't entirely know this for sure) the episode has aired in the U.K. already.
 * 2) Who keeps calling it UnderWraps? Just because Benwolf appeared in Benwolf, doesn't mean that it's the same for the mummy.MegaWhatt 14:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC) MegaWhatt 10:41, 30 March 2007

Is it possible the name came from the credits. When WildVine appeared, people continuously that name, and no one believed it was the real name. Supposedly it appeared in the credits though, and then it was said in the series.

I have a suggestion. Just wait till the name is revealed.


 * Yes, exactly. Also, I checked the credits when "Under Wraps" aired. There was no listing. --DarkfireTaimatsu 20:08, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Somebody put the name as Benmummy. I just watched The Return and Ben transformed into the mummy alien, but I dont think he named it. We also need a picture of Ben as the mummy alien. Sunspot13 14:48, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Both the mummy and supposed Frankenstein aliens have been given unsourced, Ben-based names...so nether of them have an actual name yet. -Sukecchi 14:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * ONly the mummy has a name, and had you paid attention to the ending credits you wouldn't be complaining. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 15:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not complaining, and I did not see the credits, I went back to my computer once it ended and forgot about the credits, but I was too late to see the cast. Forgive me. -Sukecchi 15:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * More of a reply to Sunspot than you. Should have indented one less. You stopped after one attempt. He needed to be told directly after more than six. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 15:20, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Again sorry I dont watch credits but the show airs again tonight I'll try to catch it. I only kept editing it because I didn't know how to talk to you. I have also written something on your userpage under Ben 10 Omnitrix. Sorry for any problems I caused you.Sunspot13 15:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey I went onto one of the external links for heer and on alien profiles the name was Benmummy so I wont change it anymore. Sunspot13 19:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Names
Where do the species names of the aliens like "Pyronite", "Kineceleran", or "Loboan" come from? I don't remember tham ever saying any of these in the series.

From the toy profiles, which detail the homeworlds and species of the Omnitrix's aliens. --160.36.193.238 20:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * This should definitely be listed as a reference. The point of attributions is so that people won't have to ask this sort of thing. -- Lilwik 04:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The point of attributions is also that people look at them. As they have not bothered to scroll to the bottom of the page listing the source, it really doesn't help to list it again. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

see the bottom of this talk page for Benmummy and Benvicktors toy profiles--chaosemeraldking 21:04, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

people we theve been called their spieceis names before here are some exasmaples: Guy from same speicies as technor:(after forarms grabs him) A Tetramand? oh brother this place is a dump. (forarms) Phil & Max: Phil: "Max I need your help with some Vulpimancers" Max: VUlpimancer aren't big on small talk even with there own kind. (WildMutt) Great one's servents: And an Arbrian pelarota to boot (Cannon bolt but his card calls him a Vulpinic Totugan.) REAL Ghostfreak: An Ectonurite's cocinus exist even within a few strands of D.N.A. when the sample was taken for the Omnitrix I was traped inside. (Ghostfreak) Xylene: If you wanted to realy be help you shold have chosen a Gavanic Mechamorph (Upgrade) User: Lord ciron 2.0

Outfits
Has anyone ever noticed that when Ben is in an outfit other than his black and white one when he goes alien the alien's outfit is still the black and white one. One example in the episode The Krakken and he's wearing trunks yet when he tranforms to Fourarms he's still wearing the black and white outfit. I just want to know if this is a goof or something else. --Darkhero31 14:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Somewhere it said that the omnitrix adapt to a person style and clothing. So I guess it adapted to "Ben's style" so it went to the black and white clothing. Plus they proabaly couldn't show Fourarms without a shirt. Or he's an alien so he might have a funky looking chest, so instead of making it complicated the artist just made him in his regular outfit. Sunspot13 15:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * We've seen the Omnitrix adapt the aliens' appearance in three instances. The first was in the alternate reality episode, in which Gwen gained the Omnitrix instead of Ben. In that episode, any aliens that wore clothing had clothing adapted from Gwen's. This is what started the theory in the first place. The second time we saw a change in appearance was in Ben 10,000. Ben had aged, the Omnitrix aliens had aged, the clothing was all different, and even the Omnitrix itself looked different. The third was when virtual reality forms of some of the aliens were seen within the Sumo Slammers game world, addopting clothing more in line with the game, rather than based on the clothing Ben seemed to be wearing. I don't think, from the observation of these episodes and the rest of the series (in which Ben is seen in different clothing, but the aliens appear the same), that the Omnitrix addapts currently worn clothing at all. It only appears to adapt the clothing that the user was wearing at the time the Omnitrix bonded to them. This fits in line with the change in Gwen's alien appearances and with the rest of the series, in which they always appear the same for Ben. It isn't necessarily contradicted by Ben 10,000, as we've already seen the Omnitrix removed from Ben and rebonded once, and Ben was wearing his typical clothing again in the second bonding. The different appearance of the Omnitrix in Ben 10,000 could indicated any number of possibilities, up to and including that it's a different Omnitrix altogether. Everything that happened within the Sumo Slammers virtual world is an anomaly, begining with the need to reaquire each alien separately as a "power-up". Angel the Techrat 17:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Most likely, it's just a plot device XD Animators are too lazy to make topless aliens... Though in "Back With A Vengence", when Ben first transformed that episode with the master code, Upgrade still had on the rain coat, and so did the next few aliens until Ben dived off the ship. Counterexamples, counterexamples...

In "Gwen Ten" when the Omnitrix fused with Max it had Ben's colors instade of Max's and also when a real alien of the same race was seen, in "Grudge Match" I believe, the colors were the same should this be noted? Superx 00:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Regarding the episode "Grudge Match," are you referring to the Pyronite (Heatblast) or the picture that was shown of a Galvanic Mechamorph (Upgrade)? Because in both cases, the aliens in question do not wear any clothes.  In Heatblast's case, they would burn right off, and in Upgrade's case, they are kind of pointless because Upgrade's species is made up of nano-robots, which are obviously not gender-specific.  Ben 10 13:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Have you noticed that when ben is wearing temporary clothes like his Galactic Enforcers outfit fighting those aliens, his forms stayed. This might have been because they were not tight clothing (also the raincoat). Maybe it's like morphing in Animorphs]. by ?????

Remember in, "A Small Problem", when Ben went Grey Matter for the entire ep? He went alien wearing swimming trunks, and timed out wearing regular clothes. Is the omnitrix a seamster? 67.165.139.45 19:59, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Cartoons don't have to make sence. There Cartoons.Anubiz 01:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

remember, the omnitrix may have questionable levels of having a mind of it's own, it's still a machine. in benwolf it was made quite clear that the clothing comes only after the omnitrix has complete change. that being said, it also needs to change ben back into ben, and the other transformations (or at least most of the humanoid ones) have clothing, but clothes aren't in the DNA so it's probobly just pre-programed into the omnitrix. also, i'm not sure if it matters but in the hero matrix game on cartoonnetwork.com there are optinol clothes, they are always black and white. (sorry, i'm not regestered and i don't know the name of my shared account that i automaticly got)

Also it is showed in "Benwolf" that the actual shirt has amazing stretching properties.Perhaps it is ala Fantastic Four.

Frankenstein-esque alien?
Who's the one who put the Frankenstein alien on? It's not confirmed yet, as far as I know. 68.249.99.139 23:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering the same thing, the Frankenstien Alien will appear in "The Return" but theres no proof that Ben will get it, though it does seem safe to assume he will since thus far Benwolf and Benmummy were added but I don't know. Seeing as "The Return" airs tommarow (at least where I live) I'm unsure if we should remove it now or just wait till it airs just to save time if it were correct because someone would have to reaid it if that were the case. Superx 00:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * According to the edit summary somewhere, it aired in the UK, but that can hardly be confirmed over on this side of the pond. We'll just wait and see, eh? --DarkfireTaimatsu 03:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, it seems that Ben hasn't sampled the DNA. Also, is Dr. Vicktor an alien, or just a mutation? If it's a mutation, then Ben shouldn't be able to absorb the DNA. That, and I don't think I can handle another 'Benalien' alien. Just give me Upchuck T_T 68.249.99.139 17:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If they do make him a "Benalien", it better be "FrankenBen" and break the pattern, and not "Benstein". (In all seriousness, we'll just have to see, eh?) --DarkfireTaimatsu 03:33, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

It has to be an alien. Otherwise he wouldn't know who Ghostfreak was. Even if it was a mutation, it's gentic code is most likely sufficient twisted to the point where it is no longer considered "human".MegaWhatt 23:26, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

If they do get him It will make the show jump a Shark.Anubiz 16:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Now how did it get a name? Unless the credits stated it in 'Be Afraid of the Dark' (which would mean that Ben used it, which isn't in the profile), he's still unnamed. 68.249.99.139 19:29, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Somebody deleted the whole Frankenstein alien article. Does this mean Ben doesn't absorb him into the watch or is this just vandalism? Sunspot13 16:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't have a clue. Could someone from UK please tell?68.249.99.139 20:23, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You could just wait 3 days to confirm it yourself. --DarkfireTaimatsu 22:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Someone deleted it (and no it wasn't me) because Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. We can't say that he gets absorbed until it's been confirmed.  And I think that guy is just a freak, but I'm not sure whether or not that would stop Ben from absorbing him.  My best guess is that the only things Ben can't download are things without any DNA or things with DNA too similar to DNA already in the Omnitrix.  That means, for example, that Ben can't download a robot or an extra Tetramand or Petrosapien.  I'll bet he could even absorb Earth creatures with it, since they're aliens to aliens anyway.  When you come right down to it, DNA is DNA.  Ben 10 23:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Where did the name Benvicktor come from? Benmummy 20:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * From the credits, I assume. (Haven't gotten a chance to watch my tape myself, but I trust it anyway.) --DarkfireTaimatsu 20:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I was wondering about Benvicktor's ability that was seemed to be forgoten. In the episode "Be Afraid of the Dark" Dr. Vicktor had strapped himself to a rocket engine and was able to control the engine's power. He did the same with the black-hole cannon while fighting Ben in space. I have come to assume that because the Omnitrix absorbs all of and aliens powers that it contacts, (as noted in the "Omnitrix" article) that Ben's new alien, known as Benvicktor, should have the same ability. Please correct me if this is incorrect. Billybobbyson 16:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

It's possible, but we shouldn't put it up until we actually see Ben use this ability as Benvicktor.MegaWhatt 00:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

is, for lack of a better name right now, benvicktor really adapted with tecnology? it sounds like a stupid question but remember that kevin 11 could absorb and generate electricity too, and that was a natural power. beyond that, the omnitrix copies DNA, which no tecnology (excluding upgrade, who is a special case) has. (same unknown user from clothing article)

Benmummy Picture
I have a good picture of Benmummy, but I dont know how to put it on the website. If someone could tell me how I would be most appreciative.Sunspot13 19:11, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I think you can safely follow the example of the other images on this article. Go to the page for one of the images, such as Image:Omnitrix image.jpg, and see what is there. Then go to Special:Upload to upload the file. I think you should make the file size small and low resolution so that it downloads quickly when people are reading the article, and also to protect the copyright of Ben 10.
 * You have to be sure to include all the things that you see in Image:Omnitrix image.jpg and perhaps even more. The page for the image is an article itself and it should say everything that there is to know about the image. -- Lilwik 20:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I went to upload it, but it was too complicated. I was wondering if you have uploaded a picture before then you can do it. To get the picture go to the external links on the omnitrix page. It's the second website. Then go to alien profiles and click on Benmummy. Next scroll down until you see a couple pictures. Pick one that shows the whole body. If you can upload this picture I would be most appreciative. If not thats fine too I just hope somebody else responds. Sunspot13 23:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Benmummy's weakness.
Okay. All the anons seem put off by Benmummy's apparent lack of weaknesses and try to BS something into that section. So, Benmummy's profile states that Ben had no control over it when he borrowed its form. I didn't see the episode, so I don't know the context. But that seems like a very big weakness to me. Can someone elaborate on what "no control" really means, just to be safe?  You Can't See Me!  00:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * He couldn't control it at first, but quickly picked up on it. Not a weakness. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah, never mind then.  You Can't See Me!  00:27, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Could the fact that many enemies seem to have no issues breaking his bandages be a weakness? Watching both the enemy in action and Ben's first use of the form, it seems like some can just sorta shrug and break them off. Magugag 06:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Article Name Change
What's with the sudden, unconventional name change? It looks really odd... --DarkfireTaimatsu 17:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * This is what happens when clueless newbies experiment and inexperienced users attempt to correct them. Omnitrix is an edited redirect now, so it has to be cleared for the revert move. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 17:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. I hope it gets corrected soon. --DarkfireTaimatsu 17:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

New alien species and home planets
these species and home planets have been confirmed by bandai.

Benmummy

species: Phayrow, a play on the word pharoah.

home planet: Egyptos Dimpyra, a play on the phrase 'Egyptian pyramid.'

Benvicktor

species: Grexiphiles

home planet: Vectron

Let's see...you have zero proof for any of this...yeah, let's put it up! Come on brother, you can't fake it.

Evin I am not dumb enouth to bleave planet Gregria Overlandria.Anubiz 21:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

i corrected the names--chaosemeraldking 21:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Let's make one thing clear. Most of us probably don't buy the toys. That said, only three things will allow any such species information to be added.
 * If it is said on the show (or Bandai's website)
 * If you can provide scans of the toys confirming such information.
 * If it is added to http://www.ben10toys.net/
 * Only those conditions will make any such information verifiable. If you cannot meet these condition, then simply do not bother. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

That site onley has the first 10Anubiz 23:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * http://www.ben10toys.net/alienprofiles/omnitrix.htm You didn't look very hard... -Sukecchi 23:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually we have the info from all the current toys (thank you for considering us a reliable source). The whole thing is, Bandai hasn't even announced that they are making figures for Benmummy or Benvicktor. They might for this Winter, but that is not the point- They are not on the current lineup list, thusly they wouldn't even be working on them yet. We know what is being considered for release 6-9 months in advance. That being said, Bandai does not leak info like that anyway, beleive me, I've tried. ~spikedwarrior 16:42, 18 April (UTC)

Upchuck
Upchuck's weakness appears to be that if he lodges his tongue onto an object he cannot move, it takes him quite some time to unlodge them, as seen in the visitor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Insectazord (talk • contribs) 14:45, 21 April 2007 (UTC). Insectazord 14:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * That isn't really a weakness. It's like saying that it takes time to Four Arms to lift something heavy, or XLR8 needs to stop to talk to anyone not in his grasp. Just because you have to stop to do something doesn't mean it's a weakness. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.249.99.139 (talk) 15:50, 21 April 2007 (UTC).

This guy seams too eager for weaknees.Anubiz 15:53, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey. Without the good guy having weaknesses, a fight becomes one-sided and boring. I think Upchuck's weaknesses are being unable to expectorate "exploding loogies" without eating anything, being slightly smaller and weaker than Ben's human form, getting hungry very easily, and finding difficulty in dislodging his adhesive tongues from a stationary objects. Grey Master 17:43, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Agread but this guy is loking to hard to find them. Just becouse they were not exploited dos not mean they don't exast. Fourarms is ticklish.Anubiz 17:49, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Do you have any proof about the ticklish thing? I am not "loking" too hard, it's right there in black, white, and green. He found it difficult to get his four tongues out of the building, He is a lot smaller, and he couldn't spit until after he ate something. He also stated he became hungrier as Upchuck. Grey Master 18:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Those aren't weaknesses. Stinkfly couldn't escape when his tail got caught, small sizes can be advantageous for evasion, and Fourarms can't throw things unless he picks them up. Hunger isn't really a problem, considering he can eat almost anything, but it might have potential to be a weakness. If it ever becomes debilitating (like Ripjaws out of water), it will go on.  You Can't See Me!  19:17, 21

April 2007 (UTC)

When they were fighing the bug guy, the Ants tickined him. I also shows that Foearmas can't dance. Anubiz 20:00, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * He had ants in his pants. He itched. It happens to any sentient being that is not used to having ants crawling up his or her skin. And please, spelling and grammar are a measure of intelligence on any Internet message place. If you want to be taken seriously at all, please work on it.  You Can't See Me!  20:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Those aren't weaknesses, either. First, the fire ants were biting him, which would tickle to an armored being. Still not a weakness. Two, coughing up a bolt is not a weakness. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 20:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

What bolt? Okay okay so he is not tticklish whe was it stated that they were fire ants? I would love to be able to spell but learning impairments just don't disappear.Anubiz 21:13, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Red ants are fire ants. Just put two and two together. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Not necessarily bulldog and Bullit ants are also red.Anubiz 21:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You've proven yourself capable of forming a grammatically perfect sentence before. Just keep doing that.  You Can't See Me!  21:17, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

For the record I know that not being able to dance is not a disadvantage I was trying to be funny.Anubiz 21:19, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Do you think a disadvantage of Upchuck is his appetite? 24.98.155.194 01:38, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * As of now, Upchucks hunger has not proven to be a weakness. I can see the potential for it to be one, though. If it ever becomes debilitating (like Ripjaws' need for water), it will go on, but not until then.  You Can't See Me!  02:39, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to have to agree that getting your tongue stuck to an object if you miss is in fact a weakness. I'm sorry, but if he missed at an inopportune moment, he'd be toast with any quick bad guy.Magugag 09:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The thing is, that can apply to anyone. Stinkfly has gotten his tail caught before and was unable to do anything. I would assume that the same thing would happen if Wildvine's arm got caught under a falling boulder, if Wildmutt's legs were tied, if Diamondhead accidentally got his arm wedged into a wall from punching too hard and missing, and so forth. At that point, it's not a weakness; it can happen to anyone, so it's just normality.  You Can't See Me!  10:11, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not the same as that. Upchuck's sticky tongues are basically a part of his power. Under that logic, Cannonbolt's high center of gravity is not a weakness, Fourarm's inability to cope with small openings is not a weakness, etc. In fact, most of the weaknesses are just something that's a 'normality' for that alien. I will continue to maintain that Upchuck's difficulty dislodging his tongues from objects is a viable weakness.


 * Ah, I've found something. Watch the episode again. Particularly, here at around the 4:00 mark (4:04-4:05). In the combat sequence, Upchuck fires his tongues again, and they don't stick. Ben sticking his tongues to the crate earlier may have just been Ben getting used to his new form.  You Can't See Me! 


 * Oh... You're right. Ha! I feel pretty silly now. Alright, yeah, I guess that Ben doesn't have trouble with sticking afterwards anyways, so it's not really a weakness of Upchuck. My bad! Magugag 03:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Evin if the tung thing is a weakness, the master code whoud counter that. Anubiz 11:04, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

The only weakness I can see is that if there is nothing around for it to eat, then it can't spit anything up and then it is pretty much useless.Wild ste 12:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * That's not really a weakness. That would be like putting a weakness on Fourarms saying "Fourarms cannot throw things unless he picks them up." Upchuck has sharp teeth and adhesive tongues to back up his eat-and-spit ability.  You Can't See Me!  23:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Right Upchuk still has arms and a till he whould be able to do somthing.Anubiz 11:35, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

In a Vacuum
I hope noone minds, but Benvicktor, Ghostfreak, Benmummy, and Upgrade all had the advantage "can survive in a vacuum." It may be just me, but that sounds kinda like they can survive trapped in a vacuum cleaner. I changed it to "can survive in space", so if anyone has a problem just say so-please.

I figerd that one only apliys becouse it's a cartoon,like on Jimmy Newtran. Also what it souned like might apliy to Ghostfreek and P'Rags.Anubiz 13:24, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * No, 'vacuum' is the correct term. You survive in space for as long as you hold your breath, so suffocation takes time. In a vacuum, death is instantaneous without protection from various elements, such as gravity (if near planet), temperature (they don't call it 'cold space' for nothing), and air pressure (there is none, normally). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.249.99.139 (talk) 20:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC).

It is a Cartoon not every thing makes sence in cartoons, also this. http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/b/be/God_kills_catgirl.gif Anubiz 02:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Not all cartoons follow the same physics. In fact, Max explicitly stated that he and Gwen needed the Hazmat suits to survive in the vacuum, and that even those would not last long without an atmosphere. Ghostfreak even made sure to remove the suits before he would throw them out.
 * Basically, Upgrade is a sentient nanobot construct, thus he does not need to breathe and can easily adjust to the lack of pressure. Benmummy/Alien Mummy have no delicate inner workings, not even lungs; they do not need to breathe, and the lack of pressure won't disrupt any vital processes. Benvicktor/Vicktor are apparently robotic and appear to be extremely durable, so they are safe from the void. Ghostfreak is as close to undead as one can get; he does not need to breathe and his ectoplasm can become immaterial and thus immune to the pull from the lack of pressure. If Wildmutt, Stinkfly, or Fourarms went up, it would have been a completely different story. Anything fleshy or requiring oxygen would have died quickly.  You Can't See Me!  03:28, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I can't tell are you for or agenst my point Invasble man? What adout Dimondhead or Heatblast?Anubiz 17:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * This is getting off topic, but... Let's see: Neither are fleshy. But Diamondhead appears to breathe, so he'd be limited by his lung capacity. As for Heatblast, that really depends on whether he's more like an inferno (in which case he'll get snuffed out) or a star (in which case he might survive).  You Can't See Me!  23:25, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

With that there is not aneything more to say about this.Anubiz 23:32, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey unsigned dude, you were right. I was the one who made this section, and I just needed some specifying. Thanks and sorry about the changing. --Mummycrypt10 01:43, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It could be because they are aliens. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.226.237.115 (talk) 01:21, 28 April 2007 (UTC).

We dismisted that alaridy. Anubiz 01:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Mummy Alien Talking?
This section keeps changing to say that the orginal Mummy Alien is mute, yet I'm pretty sure I heard it speak in Be Afraid of the Dark when it is in the spaceship? Wild ste 13:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * That episode aired again today, and I didn't catch it saying anything. In what part of the episode did you supposedly hear it speak?  You Can't See Me!  20:47, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I second this. The only time it even remotely appears to be speaking is just before Gwen goes makeshift Cannonbolt on it. Grandpa Max's voice is distorted so it sounds like the mummy is speaking. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 20:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Watching it right now. No Mummy talking. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.38.38.72 (talk) 20:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC).


 * Yup, he does kinda make a distorted and quiet wheezing noise, but not talking. Magugag 23:25, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Ripjaws' lack of appearances:
Shouldn't SOMEWHERE in the Ripjaws article be the information the Ripjaws did not appear in the third season. Just say that Ripjaws didn't appear in the third season, and leave it at that. Pure information. If you don't believe me, check the appearances of aliens lists in the Episode descriptions. 67.38.38.72 20:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I delete those. It's not that it isn't true, it's that it's not important. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 20:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Then why is frequency of use important at all? It's mentioned in both Fourarms and XLR8 sections that the aliens are used a lot. I'd say it's worth a list, myself, as a tiny little addition next to the mention of Ripjaws being the least used form. Magugag 22:42, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

It says that already.


 * Huh, really? That's weird, cause I don't see anywhere that Ripjaws did not appear in the third season, save for here. Magugag 23:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

It sayes it on the The Reaturn page.Anubiz 01:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It does not say that on any episode article because it is not especially relevant to any particular episode. In any case, the reason that Fourarms' and XLR8's appearances are noted is because they are extremely noticeable.
 * Ben uses Fourarms in twenty-two out of the thirty-nine episodes and attempts to use him in at least four more, even when Fourarms would not be a logical choice. That rate is astonishing.
 * You seem to misunderstand XLR8's note; it means that XLR8 became adult Ben's favorite form. Notice that whenever he is not in a fight, he reverts to XLR8 rather than any other form until he finally "goes Ben" in the end.
 * Ripjaws is noted to be "one of the least used forms on the Omnitrix" at the end of his description. That should be good enough; In fact, with 16 forms and potential to gain much more within a short period of time, I can imagine that Ben might not get to use all of his aliens in Season 4 or following seasons unless he has another of those "cycle-through-all-of-the-aliens" episodes.  You Can't See Me!  02:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yet I wonder how you can justify not adding accurate information about it. The mention really puts into context exactly how little Ripjaws is used throughout the series. It's no big deal if it's not there, I suppose, but there's no real reason to delete it. The mention is so small, it doesn't really clutter the article or anything. Magugag 02:48, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The thing is, Ben actually tried to use Ripjaws in the third season. The last sentence of Ripjaws' description notes that using Ripjaws is extremely situational. Ripjaws-requiring situations have come up in Season 3, and Ben didn't use him because of Omnitrix problems.
 * Placing the fact that he does not use RJ in Season 3 after the sentence about situational use would give off the wrong connotation. Adding "..., though he needed to," would only further confuse readers into thinking that Ben chose not to use the form; "..., though he tried to," would confuse the reader due to the situation sentence; and "..., though he tried to on certain situations, but could not due to Omnitrix malfunctions," makes for an awkward sentence. Adding another sentence would stray away from the idea of a "Description."
 * It'd be awkward or out of place however one goes about it.  You Can't See Me!  03:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

They nead to set aside entiere episdes for Ripjaws, but he dos have the best name. Dos that count for somthing?Anubiz 02:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

The only 'single alien' episode is 'A Small Problem'. I LOVE that episode. It action-packed, comedic, and full of expression. You can't argue with the fact the Grey Matter is the alien with most expression. Anyways, why not just add on at the end of 'he is one of the least used aliens in the series, in fact, he was not used in the third season.'

Future aliens (Yet Agian)
Someone put up profiles for each of the the future aliens that Ben 10,000 used. Why not stick with the small profile we always used?Chaoshi 20:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Personally I find each one alot more usefull than the unified one. Billybobbyson 16:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Someone has removed the photos for the future alliens, again Wild ste 12:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Can we put the Megawhat pitcher back?Anubiz 13:12, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I liked the pictures. We need a good Benmummy picture, though. The fullbody one is too dark, and the close-up makes it so you can't see any difference between the alien and the form (except for the green.)

2 things, very conterdictory. 1) I agree, they where shown in the episode and all but one where named (don't call him spitter, say 'unnamed spitting alien'). 2) it says in quite a few entries: POSSIBLE future, he may never see these aliens again. even so, listen to the first one, it's still omnitrix


 * No, he was named 'Spitter' in the credits. Spitter talked, therefore there must be a voiceover. In the credits, they always name the alien along with whoever voiced it. That's how we know Benmummy, Benvicktor, and (used to, until Ben named him) Wildvine. 68.251.177.195 18:39, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

allright, in that case just put them back in like they where and add a breif discription based on what we've seen. (Sorry, I don't read the credits)