Talk:List of Pushing Daisies characters

AfD notice
All of the character articles and episode articles (except for the first episode) have been nominated for deletion. The discussion is at Articles for deletion/Misc Pushing Daisies articles. -- Ned Scott 02:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Changing format
Since the individual character articles have been deleted, shouldn't we change the major characters table to match the format for the minor characters, so we can actually add character information? (I will do this later, when I have time, if nobody says anything) Mr. Absurd (talk) 04:35, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Digby's Age
I find it interesting that in the table, Digby's age is listed as 3, except that he's closer to 23 (he was 3 when the truck hit him, which happened 20 years ago). I assume that's to reflect the age he's essentially frozen at, but perhaps there should be some sort of explanation as to why that age was chosen. Nolefan32 (talk) 17:51, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * That age was chosen because there was absolutely no sign of Digby having aged, so he's probably three years old forever. Jasonbres (talk) 18:21, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * That's fine, but considering the dog has been alive for 23 years, it seems there should be some explanation on the page to the effect of why we're saying a dog that Ned has had since childhood is only 3 years old. Granted in Digby's case, there probably should be a note about his age, be it posted as 3 or 23.  And I would also note that on other pages for essentially immortal characters where their ages are listed (such as the vampires from Buffy the Vampire Slayer or the McLeods from the Highlander series), the age given is how many years they've been on Earth and not what age they stopped aging at. Nolefan32 (talk) 02:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree. It should say 3 (23 due to his revival). Technically, though, he's not any age, because he's dead. Right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.244.120 (talk) 00:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

One-time characters
All characters who have only made one appearance should promptly be removed. They fail to meet the notability guideline. This page is already way too long and it will not get any shorter at its current rate. – thedemonhog   talk •  edits  22:41, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I would agree with this for most of the one-time characters. But those that we know will more than likely make future appearances (such as Dilly Balsam, in that Molly Shannon originally signed on for three episodes so we can expect she'll be back) should stay.  Also, those that had a significant impact on the futures of the characters as we know them, like the owner of the travel boutique or the funeral directors, should also be seriously be considered as worthy of inclusion.  But every murder victim and every killer, I agree that's just overkill and will become unweildy as the show continues into multiple seasons. Nolefan32 (talk) 15:10, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  00:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm in agreement—but I'm afraid of being reverted as soon as I make changes. Could other people comment here so we can try to reach a general consensus before deleting anything? Mr. Absurd (talk) 19:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

The funeral director only appeared in two episodes. Is he really a valid recurring character? He's not going to be appearing again EVER, because he's dead for good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.244.120 (talk) 00:33, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Kids Names
How do we know the names of Ned's father's new children. Are they given in the end credits? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.244.120 (talk) 23:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's a spoiler. I'll get rid of them. - Jasonbres (talk) 00:03, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. I checked, and they're not given. Is his father played by the Season One actor in Season Two? It doesn't look like the same guy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.244.120 (talk) 20:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Most likely a stunt guy/stand-in. How would Ned's father look the same way he did 20 years ago? - Jasonbres (talk) 21:14, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Good point. I wasn't actually thinking about that. Do we know who plays his father, because I didn't see it in the end credits at all? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.244.120 (talk) 18:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Olive Update
The Olive Snook section needs a bit of updating. It doesn't say anything about her somewhat un-willful transformation into a nun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.244.120 (talk) 20:35, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. - Jasonbres (talk) 21:57, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.244.120 (talk) 23:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Lily and Vivian's surname
...is listed as Charles. Except Charles Charles is Chuck's father, and Vivian was engaged to marry him, and Lily had an affair with him. Let us assume that Charles is not their brother, and we know that neither one ever married him or anybody else. I wouldn't put it past the writers of Pushing Daisies to give them the same surname as a matter of "coincidence," but unless someone has verification of the last name, and I saw no citation, I think it needs to be removed, on this page or any other that might have this information after this one is removed. I've seen every episode, and while I could certainly be wrong, I can't remember their surname being mentioned. They're usually just referred to as Chuck's aunts.

Oddly enough, seeing this made me realize that there's a huge gaping hole in the story. If Lily is Chuck's mother, and Vivian doesn't know it, then why did she accept their taking Chuck in as their niece? Assuming that there was not a third sister who was supposedly Chuck's mother and who really did die, as per the original lie, Vivian should believe that Chuck was merely Charles Charles' daughter, by the woman for whom he left Vivian. Which means Vivian's apparent acceptance of Chuck as her niece is completely illogical without further explanation.

I wouldn't think that would be eligible to be in the main article though, would it? --Verminjerky (talk) 15:55, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah... that's weird. But the official website lists them with those surnames... so I guess you're right, it's either a plot hole on the part of the writers or a cute "coincidence" written into the show. Mr. Absurd (talk) 22:24, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Mr. Absurd. I wasn't aware of that. I can't help but wonder if that will change at some point. I've seen errors on official websites before, but since that is the official source, there's no arguing with it. Verminjerky (talk) 00:41, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I never noticed that... very odd. I'd write it off as a coincidence because otherwise their had to be some incest going on. So let's leave it at a coincidence.

Ned's Father/Charles Charles
"He is also implied to be the masked man who saves Ned and Olive's lives in the same episode, as well as having set up a faked chain of evidence so that a group of Norwegian detectives would believe that Dwight Dixon had died of natural causes rather than draw attention to his demise as a result of Ned's gift, suggesting that he is aware of his son's ability." As far as I know the "masked man" is Charles Charles, not Ned's father. 128.131.238.134 (talk) 22:16, 24 October 2012 (UTC)