Talk:List of Romanians

Traian Vuia
Traian Vuia was not the first to build a heavier than air flying machine, the Wright brothers beat him to it by a few months. Do you have any reliable source stating otherwise? -- Gutza 13:51 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)
 * Note that it was the first heavier-than-air self-propellant aircraft. Wright brothers used a catapult for take off.
 * see: 1) the article on Wright brothers
 * 2) http://www.flight100.org/history/rom.html
 * Bogdan 14:50 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Oh, ok, nice to hear that, I honestly wasn't aware of that. Maybe an article on Traian Vuia would be in order? :-) Gutza 16:35 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)

What's the criteria for listing presidents here rather than at President of Romania - would it be better to only list them at President of Romania? Wondering simply... Martin


 * List of Americans only lists the most important six presidents of the US (in politicians section). I think here we should include the most important of them, too. Bogdan

An anon recently made some deletions. I restored Corneliu Vadim Tudor -- certainly a significant figure, however much one may despise him. Also eliminated were:


 * Andrew Calimach, author
 * The Cheeky Girls

I could not care less about the Cheeky Girls. Someone else is welcome to restore them to the list. As for Calimach, unless someone gives a good reason he does not belong on the list, I intend to restore him. He is no less Romanian than Andrei Codrescu, whom I assume we can all agree belongs on the list. -- Jmabel 06:52, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
 * Calimach restored. -- Jmabel 04:55, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * It's obvious why he deleted it. Andrew Calimach wrote books about "Gay Greek Myths". :-) Bogdan | Talk 18:39, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * Clearly. I figured that went without saying. -- Jmabel | Talk 23:29, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)

A recent anon edit removed "Dumitru Prunariu, astronaut (cosmonaut)." I have no idea why. If no one can explain this in the next 48 hours, I will feel free to restore. -- Jmabel 23:43, 29 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Sabin B&#259;la&#0351;a
There has been a recent set of edits back and forth as to whether Sabin B&#259;la&#0351;a belongs in the list. I presume he has at least as good a claim as The Cheeky Girls. An article on him by someone with a clue (hint, hint) would make this clearer one way or another.


 * Got your hint, Joe :-) Now B&#259;la&#351;a has a stub article, but I wish for someone more knowledgeable in art to say something about his works (not the propaganda ones, ofc). Contrary to what our anon editor suggests, B&#259;la&#351;a hasn't created only "minor propaganda" - see the second link at the end of the article. Anyone who has objections, please make them _here_; otherwise i will restore B&#259;la&#351;a in 48 hours. IulianU 12:03, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

And by the way, with reference to the "Wikipedia is POV" remark about his inclusion/deletion: inclusion/deletion inevitable involves decisions that cannot be totally objective. I think that's pretty universally recognized. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:10, Oct 28, 2004 (UTC)

Gil Nicolesco?
Who is Gil Nicolesco? Google turns up nothing. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:29, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)


 * Gil Nicolescu returns one hit. It appears he is/was indeed a painter, but not a very important one. Bogdan | Talk 18:39, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Soccer
Someone recently deleted Costin Iorgu and added Gica Popescu. I don't follow Romanian footballers enough to have a clue what is right, but I have to suspect that at least one of these changes is wrong. Can someone clueful please address this? -- Jmabel | Talk 18:15, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)


 * I never heard of a player named Costin Iorgu (neither has google), but Gic&#259; Popescu was indeed an important footballer. Bogdan | Talk 18:30, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The list of soccer players is absolutely ridiculous.It includes Catalin Hildan and Michael Klein,I suppose because they're both dead,and it doesn't include Ilie Dumitrescu and Florin Raducioiu. Stefan Udrea 15:16, 9 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Not being a soccer fan, I have nothing to add to this other than (1) being dead or alive should have nothing to do with it and (2) if you think notable players are missing, please add them. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:28, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

What is soccer???? Seby

Celestina Popa-Toma?
Celestina Popa-Toma, recently added under gymnastics, doesn't strike me as notable enough to belong here. 20 Google hits, unless she is better known under another variant of her name. If no one makes a case in the next 24 hours, I will probably delete. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:35, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

Adrian Alexandru
Similarly for "Adrian Alexandru, WTF taekwondo". Google search for "Adrian Alexandru" + taekwondo gives only 2 hits, one of which says he has trained for two years in the sport. Again, maybe there is a reason he's listed: the other says someone became an Olympic contender by beating him, but again, given that the Olympic contender isn't on the list, why should Alexandru be. Unless someone demonstrates notability, I will delete this as well. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:36, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)

Tesla???
Why?? Here's what I have:

1) [] Nikola Tesla was born in 1856 in what is now Croatia to Serbian parents Milutin and Djuka Tesla

2) [] Nikola Tesla, American scientist of Serbian origin...


 * Truly. One can argue Tesla as Serb, Croatian, (adoptive) American, or even maybe Hungarian, but what is the case for calling him Romanian? Removing pending a solid citation to back this up. -- Jmabel | Talk July 2, 2005 03:43 (UTC)


 * I don't know of any solid reference on that topic, but the tale of Tesla being of Romanian/Vlach ancestry is an often-circulated rumor (might be true though). It's been discussed in Talk:Nikola Tesla/Archive 1 (see Vlach stuff section). I would remove Tesla from the list for now at least. Alexander 007 2 July 2005 08:36 (UTC)

Romanian nationality?
There are a few people here who can be considered Romanian by some criteria, and not Romanian by some other criteria. Examples:
 * Elie Wiesel: born in Romania, ethnicity Hungarian Jewish, works in French and Yiddish, became famous in France
 * Johnny Weissmuller: born in Romania, ethnicity Austrian, lived practically all his life in the US
 * Eugen Ionescu: born in Romania, partly ethnic Romanian, lived for long in Romania, became famous in France, works in French
 * Ladislaus Bölöni: born and living in Romania, ethnicity Hungarian

I think it would be nice to have a note after the leading paragraph stating the criteria by which the people in this list are selected. To me, it seems that the list has everyone with a Romanian nationality regardless of ethnicity or other criteria. If there are people on the list who were born outside Romania but are ethnic Romanians, this could also be noted.

KissL 7 July 2005 13:17 (UTC)

I erased Hermann Oberth from the Physics section...he surely wasn't Romanian. Stefan Udrea 15:35, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 * An interesting question: he was born in Hermannstadt (now Sibiu). This brings us backe to the same remark that KissL made above: just what do we mean by Romanian. I think that we should probably define Romanian quite broadly for this article, but be clear on the criteria we used in each case. For example, we could list something like:
 * Hermann Oberth, rocket scientist, born in Hermannstadt (now Sibiu, Romania)
 * Jmabel | Talk 04:28, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Same with Edward G. Robinson, Bucharest-born Yiddish speaker who spent 10-years in Romania.

Too many Actors/Too much Read
The actors-actresses section on this list is way too long and the remainder is way too short. In addition, I've noticed a lot of "Professor of" next to peoples name in the scientific section. Shouldn't this list just contain significant scientists with achievements and not an random Professor? (anon 20 July 2005)
 * If these are, indeed "random professors" they should be dropped; I would suggest researching a small number of them and seeing if that seems to be the case. As for the profusion of theater people, it's probably just because several people been working on Romanian theater. Again, you might sample some and do some research to see if it really is excessive, but can see offhand that some of the redlinks (e.g. Constantin Nottara) are major figures awaiting articles. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:11, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Cosmonaut ?!?
from www.dictionary.com : cosmonaut= A Russian or Soviet astronaut. the Russians called their astronauts cosmonauts

so,how about we call Dumitru Prunariu an astronaut instead of a cosmonaut


 * He flew in the USSR space program, not the US space program, so cosmonaut would be correct. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:28, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Notability
I am removing the section "Romanian citizens Exiled" until notability is established. The sense in which these people are "exiled" is unclear: I am not aware that the present Romanian regime has ever sent someone into exile. The three names there were:


 * Adriana Hegbeli, NY- Real Estate Broker
 * James D. Milleew, NY- International Business Operation
 * Grigore Culian, NY- Owner and Editor in Chief-NY Magazin

Being a real estate broker is not encyclopedic. "International Business Operation" can mean anything, no indication of notability. Grigore Culian is apparently the editor not of New York Magazine but of a Romanian-language New York Magazin. That magazine might merit an article; I doubt its owner and editor does. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Vanity?
Leonida Constantin Brezeanu was added to the list three separate times. I've consolidated them. Probably not a particularly famous person, unless known by a different form of her name: I got only two Google hits on this. Does anyone know if this person is legitimately notable? -- Jmabel | Talk 05:35, 31 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Apparently he is a not-so-famous composer and conductor. bogdan | Talk 09:08, 31 October 2005 (UTC)


 * So remove? -- Jmabel | Talk 20:57, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

In the List?

 * Adolf Albin
 * List of Bucharesters
 * --Sheynhertzגעשׁ״ך 02:31, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I think all the Bucharesters are in there. You should probably make a CHESS PLAYERS section for Albin. HotelRoom 03:58, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Chemists
I don't honestly know whether Alexandru T. Balaban and Mihai Dimonie are important enough to be listed (in the latter case, I suspect not), but either they are, and their names should be links, or they are not, and their names should not be here. - Jmabel | Talk 06:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Haralambie Ţugu?
Who the heck is Haralambie Ţugu? I looked it up because the name seemed unlikely. Zero Google hits. I presume eithe misspelled or utterly bogus. There have been about 100 edits since I last looked at this page, so I'm not sorting through to find who added it. ~- Jmabel | Talk 04:12, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I see that this has now been corrected to Haralambie Ţugui. A quick Google search on that indicates that he was a poet, 1916-1986. - Jmabel | Talk 02:24, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Bela Lugosi?
I see that Bela Lugosi was recently added. Admittedly, where he was born is now Romania, but he was ethnically Hungarian, and by the time his native Lugos, now Lugoj, became part of Romania, he was long gone. Consequently, I am removing this. - Jmabel | Talk 04:17, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Red links deleted
Per the guideline on Lists (stand-alone lists) I've removed all the red links, as "each entry on the list should have a Wikipedia article." If anyone wants to write articles on any of the removed entities the pre-editing list can be found here. brenneman 05:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


 * That is absolutely not what Lists (stand-alone lists) says (and that page has not changed in months, unusual stability for a Wikipedia guideline). What it says is "Selected lists of people should be selected for importance/notability in that category and should have Wikipedia articles (or the reasonable expectation of an article in the future)." If you think that some of these do not have the reasonable expectation of an article in the future fine, then make your case, but you've removed a lot of quite notable people who happen not to have articles yet. The ability to place something in a list before an article exists and as a stimulus to writing an article is one of the main ways lists differ from categories. - Jmabel | Talk 06:59, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Removal of red link is justified by now. It's been forever. No improvements have been made.

Article Requests

 * Marian Cosma, handball player
 * Marcel Avram, music promoter for Michael Jackson, Pink Floyd, U2, Rolling Stones, Madonna, Rod Stewart, etc.
 * Nicolai Apetri, dance innovator
 * Oleg Danovschi, choreographer
 * Ioan Lascar, physician
 * Iulian Iancu, politician
 * Cosmin Guse, politician
 * Răzvan Mazilu, choreographer, dancer
 * Duiliu Marcu, Modernism
 * Paul Smarandescu, Modernism
 * Petre Antonescu, triumphal arch
 * Octav Doicescu, Modernism
 * Octavian Neagu
 * Marcel Olinescu
 * Géza Vida
 * Aron Densuşianu, poet, literary critic
 * Demostene Botez, poet
 * Dan Doboş, science fiction writer
 * Virgil Duda, writer novelist, essayist, journalist
 * Petru Dumitriu, Romance writer, academic, scholar
 * Constantin Gane, writer
 * Dumitru Popescu, writer
 * David Prodan, historian
 * Ion Păun-Pincio, writer
 * Haralambie Ţugui, writer
 * Gheorghe Tăutu, poet
 * Alexandru O. Teodoreanu, dramatist
 * Eugen Coeru
 * Florin Constantiniu
 * Zoe Dumitrescu-Buşulenga
 * Dinu C. Giurescu
 * Sorbul Mihai, dramatist
 * Sextil Puşcariu
 * Lazar Şăineanu
 * Valeria Guţu Romalo
 * Alexandru Rosetti
 * Rodica Boţoman
 * Theodor Capidan*Barbu Lăzăreanu
 * Dumitru Murărau
 * Virgil Vătăşianu
 * Cătălin Tolontan, sportswriter
 * Dumitru Tinu, former editor in chief of the daily Adevărul
 * Ovidiu Ioaniţoaia, sportswriter
 * Robert Turcescu, TV & radio talkshow host, former editor in chief of the daily Cotidianul (2004-2005)
 * Cristian Ţopescu, TV commentator
 * Ana-Maria Avram, composer, conductor, musicologist
 * Constantin Bobescu, violinist, conductor, composer
 * Florin Bogardo, pop music composer
 * Leonida Constantin Brezeanu, conductor, composer, pianist, ethnomusicologist
 * Dumitru Capoianu, composer
 * Dan Dediu, contemporary composer
 * Alexandru Flechtenmacher, composer, violinist, conductor, pedagogue
 * Liviu Marinescu, composer
 * Horatio Radulescu, composer
 * Ioan Scarlatescu, composer
 * Ion Vidu, composer
 * Luiza Borac, pianist
 * Aurelian Andreescu, pop singer
 * Horia Andreescu, conductor
 * Jean Bobescu, conductor
 * Iosif Conta, orchestra conductor
 * Dumitru Fărcaş, folk musician
 * George Georgescu, conductor
 * Valentin Gheorghiu, pianist
 * Dan Grigore, pianist
 * Nicolae Herlea, baritone
 * Aurora Ienei, pianist
 * Sherban (Şerban) Lupu, violinist
 * Cristian Mandeal, orchestra conductor
 * Emil Marinescu, tenor
 * Maria Moreanu, mezzo-soprano
 * David Ohanesian, baritone
 * Dimitrie Onofrei, tenor
 * Richard Oschanitzky, jazz pianist, composer, arranger, orchestrator, orchestra conductor ,
 * Dimitrie Popovici-Bayreuth, baritone
 * Stefan Ruha, violinist
 * Aura Urziceanu (also known as Aura Rully, Aura Borealis), jazz singer
 * Florin Piersic, actor
 * Irina Niculescu, director
 * Traian Stoica, introduced radio theater, edited many plays for radio
 * George Bănica, actor, director and playwright
 * Oana Botez-Ban, designer for theater, film, opera and dance
 * Ion Moina
 * Alin Minteoan
 * Costel Gâlcă
 * Constantin Stănici
 * Radu Nunweiler
 * Lavinia Agache
 * Mariana Bitang - former women's coach
 * Andreea Cacovean
 * Laura Cutina
 * Rodica Dunca
 * Dan Grecu
 * Anca Grigoraş
 * Anca Kiss
 * Floarea Leonida
 * Celestina Popa
 * Eugenia Popa
 * Daniel Popescu
 * Dan Potra
 * Melita Ruhn
 * Razvan Selariu
 * Silvia Stroescu
 * Ekaterina Szabo
 * Dumitrita Turner
 * Mihai Claudiu Covaliu, fencing
 * Târpa family, several famous Romanian physicians
 * Dinischiotu family, several famous Romanian physicians and professors
 * Petru Poni, mineralogist
 * Raluca Ripan (1894-1975), chemist
 * Mircea Desideriu Banciu (1941-2005), chemist
 * Emilian Bratu (1904-1991), founder of the Romanian school of Chemical Engineering
 * Aurelian Căluşaru, specialist in electrochemistry and isotope chemistry
 * Ion St. Basgan, inventor, rotary well drilling apparatus
 * Dragomir Hurmuzescu, specialist in radioactivity, X rays, and electricity, inventor of the first high tension dynamo
 * Dumitru Daponte, inventor in cinematography
 * Marian Apostol
 * Aretin Corciovei, specialist in theory of condensed matter
 * Horia Hulubei, known for work in spectroscopy and nuclear physics
 * Theodor Ionescu, specialist in electricity, precursor of MASER, microwave amplifier
 * Nicholas Ionescu-Pallas
 * Marin Ivaşcu
 * Constantin Miculescu, physicist
 * Dimitrie Negreanu, magnetism and mineralogy
 * Valeriu Novacu, theoretical physicist and historian of physics
 * Alexandru Proca, theoretical physicist, theory of mesons
 * Ioan-Iovitz Popescu, physicist
 * Ştefan Procopiu, key work on magnetic moment
 * Gelu-Claudiu Radu, physicist, journalist
 * Ioan Ursu, physicist
 * Şerban Ţiţeica, theoretical physicist
 * Dinu Adameşteanu, Italian archeologist of Romanian origin
 * Gheorghe Basangeac, philanthropist
 * Vasile Bogrea
 * Constantin Budeanu
 * Ion Dafinoiu, psychologist
 * Ovid Densuşeanu
 * Dumitru Drăghicescu, Social psychologist
 * Vladimir Gheorghiu, Prof. Dr., University of Giessen (a specialist in Hypnosis)
 * Irina Holdevici, psychologist
 * Nicolae Mărgineanu, psychologist
 * Victor Mărgineanu, psychologist
 * Virgil Măgureanu, sociologist
 * Irineu Mihălcescu (1874-1947), theologian
 * Anton Pătârlăgeanu, philologist
 * André Scrima (1925-2000), hermeneutist
 * Anastasia Soare, 'eyebrow queen' to A-list Hollywood celebrities
 * Andrei Popovici-Bîznosanu
 * Victor Tufescu
 * Verestoy Attila, finance and industry mogul
 * Ferenczy Károly, media tycoon
 * Eugen Bădărău, experimental physicist
 * Augustin Maior, physicist, engineer
 * Elena Buica, writer
 * Liviu Glodeanu, Composer
 * Nicu Wagner, Singer, Composer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.233.84.98 (talk) 09:45, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Marijuana
Is there a Romanian female rapper by that nick? 88.117.38.203 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 12:04, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Linking to an orphaned article on a former minister of industry
There is an article on Anatoliy Blashku that is presently an orphaned article. Apparently, Anatoliy Ivanovich Blashku (1944 - ) was the Minister of Industry of Transnistria. Could some editor, more skilled than I, please look into how to include a wikilink to this page. Thanks in advance. TheAMmollusc (talk) 11:11, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

John DeLorean
I think this got here by mistake. John DeLorean was not born in Romania.195.212.29.190 (talk) 15:37, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

hmm page need verification i know about romanians were are very importants but i belive some are lies