Talk:List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Devon

Re-ordering suggestion
I am going to see if I can fill in some of the missing data on this list. I have re-worked the first section to include coords as well as grid refs (using template:gbmappingitem) This gives extra features such as the interactive map, and the ability to show all the points on a single map, using :kml. (I also put the very handy Nature on the Map links into a template, and the citations into refs, which I think brings them a bit nearer to wikipedia standards.

I wondered (at risk of adding an extra task) if rather than breaking them up by alphabetic sections, there could be a section for each 'Natural Area' (a useful but underplayed Natural England invention (see this link). From 'Nature on the Map', clicking for info brings up various boxes including one that says which Natural Area it is in, so the grouping is pretty definitive. What I don't know is how unequal the list sizes would be, but to my mind, that is useful content about each of the areas. If no one objects, I will start hiding that information within the table entries, and see how it goes. They can't be re-organised until all the entries have an area. RobinLeicester (talk) 00:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)


 * It might be worth looking at List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Somerset, which is a featured list, and is probably the best template at the moment for "List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in x" articles, ensuring that there is consistency over all of these. But I do really like your Nature on the map template, and maybe worth rolling this out over all the Lists, which have the upgraded layout.
 * I must admit that I don't really like having coords as well as the grid refs in the list, as it makes it look cluttered (not to mention the font sizes are different) and maybe an obstacle in obtaining featured status. As the grid references provide the same GeoHack mapping ability I think it would be best to just stick with them. Also, I think the problem with the "Natural Area" is that these span over multiple counties, and could get confusing, and most people, I think, would want to search alphabetically. Cheers, Zangar (talk) 13:35, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for very welcome input. There is currently a move to only use coords for such lists (see [|WikiProject_UK_geography discussion] whereas I agree that the OS grid refs are what a lot of UK users would expect. The problem is that the gbmapping templates are not fed into the coord system, but use their own direct link to geohack. They don't therefore have the various other things (eg the kml multipoint links, or the interactive maps) that coord offers. My stab at the combined template was a first attempt at trying to get the best of both. There are various format sizes, including all text the same size, but then they take up quite a bit more width, or can be set over two lines - I will switch it to that, by way of an alternative. I agree about the clutter, but can't see how else to meet all the competing needs. Thanks for the kind words for the yellow boxes. RobinLeicester (talk) 17:21, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing out the other discussion. Obviously if a decision comes out of it, it should be rolled out over all associated pages and I'd be happy with that. I had a thought that perhaps you could always style this list how you think and then ask at the appropriate WikiProjects for feedback on which style is best and then roll out the preferred style/compromise over all the SSSI articles? Cheers, Zangar (talk) 18:43, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Seeing as Natural England moved their SSSI maps to MAGIC Defra, in May, I have updated the Nature on the map template and applied it to every SSSI lists pages for England that is complete (currently 39 of 46 SSSI lists are 100% done from A to Z). Having the template has made it easier to have the SSSI maps URL on just one page so that only one easy edit is required to mass-convert the lot, if the host moves again in the future.. which knowing the government and the way they keep changing each others work after every election, it probably will.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh  {chat} 03:36, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

list completed
I have now extracted all the extra info (having found a spreadsheet table with the county lists data via http://www.sssi.naturalengland.org.uk/Special/sssi/report.cfm?category=C,CF, which speeded things up. I ran into a major hurdle when the expanded page size got too big, and all the refs vanished. I had to prune out some of the formatting, and make the OS grid ref not a maps link, to make it fit. Even so, it is a lumpy thing (200+coord calls is the culprit). However it all now fits, and the links are all still there. (NewPP limit report shows Post-expand include size is now 1742596 (max is 2048000) so there is elbow room for odd additions and edits, but no space for significant further data or formatting. The Geogroup facility now works, and the interactive map from the coord globe works very effectively to see what other sites are nearby - and will be even more useful if all the red links can be filled in! RobinLeicester (talk) 02:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

not completed
there are 212 sites now — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zemliakov (talk • contribs) 09:28, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * So... be bold and add the new one yourself.. doesn't take much effort to follow the current format to add one more row. WP:SOFIXIT  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh  {chat} 00:12, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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