Talk:List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Greater London

Ambiguity in enumeration of SSSIs
This was the last sentence of this article's first paragraph until a minute before this message was posted:

"As of 2007, there are 36 sites designated within this Area of Search, 25 of which have been designated for their biological interest, 11 for their geological interest, and 7 for both biological and geological interest."

As we all know, 25 + 11 = 36. In other words, the sites listed in virtue of both their biological and their geological interest are mentioned twice. Counting the items of the list confirmed this suspicion of mine. It certainly looks like a mistake to me, and I have thus decided to correct it, changing "25" to "18". I find it uncontroversial enough to do it without discussion; if anyone disagrees, please leave a message to my secretary. Waltham, The Duke of 21:24, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Proposed changes
If other editors do not object I propose to make the following changes. 1. Merge the 'hectares' and 'acres' columns into one area column showing both. 2. Merge the 'borough' column with the 'location' column, with the borough shown first to keep the facility to sort on the borough. 3. Delete the 'year notified' column, which is of no interest to most readers. 4. Add an 'Other designations' column. This is usefully included in other lists of SSSIs such as Berkshire.

The merging and deletions of columns should make the list more readable on narrower monitors, and help to make room for the extra column. Any views? Dudley Miles (talk) 16:01, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

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Review
and. This is the last of the three SSSI lists I have worked on which were already FLs. Comments again gratefully received. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:40, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Shall look in over coffee tomorrow morning. A pleasing task for a Sunday morning.  Tim riley  talk   17:42, 17 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Precious little from me. This remains a top-notch article in my view, and it was a pleasure (as well as highly instructive) to review it. Only a handful of minor queries:
 * Bentley Priory – I wonder why the capital F in Yorkshire Fog?
 * Corrected. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Chingford Reservoirs – "The reservoirs are majoring wintering grounds" – should this be "major" rather than "majoring"?
 * Corrected. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hampstead Heath Woods – "The site has many old and over-mature trees, and extensive dead wood which provides a habitat for invertebrates..." – Is this habitat provided by the old and over-mature trees as well as the dead wood? If so, "provides" should be "provide".
 * I misread the source. Changed to "The site has many old and over-mature trees, which provide an extensive dead wood habitat for invertebrates". Dudley Miles (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Mid Colne Valley – "significant" occurs twice in the note here. I have a bee in my bonnet about the word, feeling it is best kept for use when something is actually signified, rather than used as a mere synonym of "important" or "big". (And I have Fowler on my side.)
 * Changed the first one. The second one looks OK to me - and I have OED on my side! Dudley Miles (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hah! And very possibly hmph, as well. But to each his own.  Tim riley  talk   18:04, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Saltbox Hill – "…and it is one of only two sites in London which has the dark green fritillary butterfly. I think this should be "...which have", as I reckon the subject of the verb is "two sites", not "it", but I may be wrong.
 * Corrected. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Those are my meagre gleanings; I hope they're of use.  Tim riley  talk   10:54, 18 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Dudley, I'll be along on the morrow. (I've made a couple of what I think are minor tweaks, and I'll likely do the same again tomorrow; feel free to revert if you think otherwise or feel the original was better). Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 22:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Are you sure about all the caps in the lead? Some of those articles don't follow suit (National nature reserve (United Kingdom), Local nature reserve and Scheduled monument). I never understand our approach to capitals half the time, so you may be entirely right.
 * This keeps coming up. Wikipedia is random whether designations are capitalised. My view is that it is better to be consistent, and I prefer capitalisation because it signals to the reader that it is an official designation, not just a noun phrase.. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Denham Lock Wood has an error message coming up "Malformed OS grid ref: Malformed numerical part of NGR"
 * Corrected. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * FN2 has Natural England in italics, which isn't right
 * Corrected. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * FN3: no needs for LONDON in caps
 * Corrected. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * FNs 7, 17 and 77 have 2012-03-31 date formats, none of the others do. They also show the archive in a different way to the others. They have "Archived 2012-03-31 at the Wayback Machine"; others have "Archived from the original on 5 September 2015. Retrieved 16 January 2016." The latter is probably the better way to format them.
 * I have not come across this before. The date correction tool does not work on the webarchive template. I have corrected the dates but I will need to look further at how I can get rid of the template. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

That's it. If this was at FLC, I'd be supporting once those tweaks have been made, so your re-working is as up-to-standard as your other lists. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 11:53, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Many thanks and  for your very helpful comments. Replies above. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)