Talk:List of Soviet divisions 1917–1945

1941 Rifle divisions (more info)
Moscow proletarian mrd (motor-rifle)

2nd Belorussian rd

3rd Pacific Ocean rd

4th Smolensk rd

5th Vitebsk rd

6th Orel rd

7th Chernigov md

8th Minsk rd

9th Caucasian mrd (mountain-rifle)

10th rd

11th rd

12th rd

13th Daghestan rd

14th Krivoy Rog rd

15th Sivashskaya md

16th Ulyanov rd

17th Gor'kiy rd

18th rd

19th Voronezh rd

the 20th proletariat of Donbass mrd

21st Perm rd

22nd Krasnodar rd

23rd Kharkov rd

24th Samara - Ulyanov Iron rd

25th Chapayevskaya  rd

26th Zlatoust rd

27th Omsk rd

28th mountain mrd

29th Siberian md  (motorized)

30th Irkutsk mrd

31th rd

32th Saratov rd

33th Belorussian rd

34th Middle Volga rd

35th Siberian rd

36th Transbaikal mrd

37th rd

38th rd

39th rd

40th Bogucharskaya  rd

41th rd

42nd rd

43th rd

44th Kiev mrd

45th Volhnya rd

46th Dnepropetrovsk rd

47th mrd

48th rd

49th rd

50th Taman rd

51th Perekop rd

52nd rd

53th rd

54th rd

55th Kursk rd

56th Moscow rd

57th Ural mrd

58th mrd

59th rd

60th mrd

61th rd

62th Turkestan rd

63th Georgian mrd

64th rd

65th rd

66th rd

67th rd

68th Turkestan mrd

69th md

70th rd

71th rd

72th mrd

73th rd

74th rd

75th rd

76th Armenian mrd

77th Azerbaijan mrd 78th rd

79th rd

80th rd

81th md

82th md

83th Turkestan mrd

84th md

85th rd

86th rd

87th rd

88th rd

89th rd

90th rd

91th rd

92nd rd

93th Eastern Siberian rd

94th rd

95th Moldavian rd

96th Vinnitsa mrd

97th rd

98th rd

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101th mrd

102nd rd

103rd md

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109th md

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138th mrd

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163th md

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185th md

186th rd

187th rd

188th rd

189th rd

190th rd

191th rd

192th mrd

193th rd

194th mrd

195th rd

196th Dnepropetrovsk rd

197th Kiev rd

198th md

199th rd

200th rd

202th md

204th md

205th md

206th rd

208th md

209th md

210th md

212th md

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236th md

237th rd

238th rd

239th md

240th md

--Mrg3105 (talk) 03:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rifle divisions formed in Gorki

117-я стрелковая Познанская дивизия; 137-я стрелковая дивизия; 145-я стрелковая Витебская дивизия; 15-я гвардейская стрелковая Харьковско-Пражская дивизия; 16-я Литовская стрелковая Клайпедская дивизия; 171-я стрелковая Борисовская дивизия; 238-я стрелковая Карачевская дивизия; 274-я стрелковая дивизия; 279-я стрелковая Лисичанская дивизия; 322-я стрелковая Житомирская дивизия; 334-я стрелковая Витебская дивизия; 42-я гвардейская стрелковая Прилуцкая дивизия; 43-я гвардейская стрелковая Латышская Рижская дивизия; 85-я гвардейская стрелковая Рижская дивизия; 89-я гвардейская стрелковая Белгородско-Харьковская дивизия; 93-я Миргородская стрелковая дивизия; Бобруйская дивизия (I have yet to determine the number of this one--  mrg3105  mrg3105   09:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

1941 Cavalry divisions
3th Bessarabskaya cd 5th cd 6th Chongarskaya  cd 8th Far-Eastern cd 9th Crimean cd 14th cd

32th cd 36th cd --Mrg3105 (talk) 14:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Divisional histories
Buckshot06, do you have a database of divisional histories? I don't have one, but there is of course a lot of information now online in Russian. Invariably I will come across these in my own research, so should I save these for you?--Mrg3105 (talk) 07:25, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Put all the resources you find at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Russian_and_Soviet_military_history_task_force#Resources,

where a few other resources are now collected. That's the central point for all that kind of material. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 07:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you mean insert links to sites there right? I mean there are pages and pages of histories. I'll save then at home and when you need them, I'll 'process ' them ok?--Mrg3105 (talk) 08:08, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * With tashv.nm are you working your way back from 1945?--Mrg3105 (talk) 08:13, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Insert links to the major sites when you feel like it. I have all I need at the moment, because my focus is actually the ~200 divisions of the Soviet Army Ground Forces that existed in '91, and the ~30 divisions that exist now in the Russian Ground Forces. Histories for those thirty are the first priority, and for that, tashv is adequate, provided its linked to a list of operations those divs took part in. Buckshot06 (talk) 08:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Learn something new every day is my moto ;o) I though all Poles went to the Polish Corps (later Army), but they even made Guards --  mrg3105  mrg3105   11:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Sources and references
Just a note that there are a couple of small errors in the references I noticed, so I went through the lot.

The reference 5 has a mis-spelled Russian word бьша. This is a result of scanning and should be была (was).

In reference 6 Craig's name is mis-spelled, should be Craig Crofoot.

I have also taken the liberty of translating the references and sources as it is a good idea to do so in the English Wikipedia. A note that one of the references uses Lensky rather then Lenskii you use elsewhere so I changed it to Lenskii.

All Russian  source notes are via Lenskii.

1. ^ Scott and Scott, 1979, p.12

2. ^ David Glantz, Colossus reborn: The Red Army at War 1941-43, University  press   Kansas, 2005, p.717  note 5.

3. ^ Thus, the 6th rifle division of the 6th Rifle Corps with the 4th army in the ZapOVO (Western Special Military District) begun World War II, having 13,7 thousand personnel (Simonov. 100 days of war. Smolensk, “Rusich”, 1999, p.348 (document provided)) via Lenskii

4. ^ 43rd rifle division was formed in 1920s in Velikie Luki as the territorial formation of the Leningrad military district, in autumn 1937 it was relocated directly into Leningrad; 43rd rifle division was awarded the Order of Red Banner for participation in the Soviet-Finnish war; on the combat history of the division see, for example: “Red Banner Volgaside". Military Publishing, 1984, pp.367-368

5. ^ Formation was created in 1934. in Kuybyshev as the 70th rifle division (it participated in the Soviet- Finnish war and was it was awarded with the Order of Lenin); during October 1942 was reorganised as the45th Guards rifle division ; on the combat history of the division see, for example, Soviet Military Encyclopaedia, v.4, pp.431-431.

6. ^ Michael Avanzini, Craig Crofoot, Armies of the bear, Tiger Lily Publications LLC, 2004, ISBN 978-0972029636

7. ^ S.N.Zhilin and others “Under the Guard banner ". Arkhangelsk/Vologda. 1980

8. ^ From 01.07.35 was 83rd Turkestan mountain rifle division; reorganised as 128th Guards mountain rifle division in autumn 1943)

9. ^ http://www.winterwar.com/forces/SuArmy/SUArmy-OOB30111939.htm#isthmus

10. ^ [Zamoskvorechye district]

11. ^ 161st rifle division was formed in April - July  1942 on the territory of the Moscow Military District on the basis of the 13th separate rifle brigade, formed during the autumn 1941 in the South Caucasus Military District; on the combat history of the formation see, for example: M.K.Smolnyy “7,000 kilometers in battles and campaigns ". Military Publishing, 1982.)

12. ^ formation created in August - September 1941 in Stavropol' as the 343rd rifle division; reorganised into the 97th Guard rifle division in May 1942; on the combat history see, for example: “ World War II ". Soviet Encyclopaedia, 1985, p.573 or I.A.Samchuk “Guards from Poltava ". Military Publishing, 1965)

13. ^ Poirier and Conner show  the  21st  GRD as  being  formed  from  the  361st RD in  mar 1942

14. ^ Feskov et al, p.114

15. ^ Feskov et al, 2004, table 2.4, p.51/52

16. ^ At Belau (Znamensk-Zhamensk)

17. ^ formation of 93rd (12th Guards) rifle brigade, from which the 92nd guard rifle division was expanded during April 1943 was performed in September 1942 in the Urals (“Red Banner from Ural ". Military Publishing, 1983, p. 137,)

18. ^ Keith E. Bonn (ed.), Slaughterhouse: The handbook of the Eastern Front, Aberjona press, Bedford, PA, 2005, p.376

19. ^ Red army handbook, Chapter 3.

•	A. G. Lenskiii, Land forces of RKKA (Workers' and Peasants' Red Army) in pre-war years. Reference book. Saint Petersburg, B&K, 2000

•	Robert G. Poirier and Albert Z. Conner, The Red Army Order of Battle in the Great Patriotic War, Novato: Presidio  press, 1985. ISBN 0-89141-237-9.

•	Steven J. Zaloga and Leland S. Ness, Red Army handbook 1941 - 1945, Phoenix mill: Sutton publishing, 1998. ISBN 0-7509-1740-7.

•	Combat Composition of the Soviet Army 1941 - 1945 (official Soviet army Order of Battle from the Soviet General Staff Archives).

•	http://samsv.narod.ru/

•	Link from the  223rd  rifle  division found  here

--Mrg3105 (talk) 00:11, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Division of the list
I'd like to suggest that this list be divided into Arms of Service lists, each with a structure that includes sections on Arm doctrine development, changes in structure, and links to prominent commanders.--mrg3105 (comms) ♠ ♥ ♦ ♣ 04:27, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia's problems are not of encyclopedic interest!
However in contrast to Wikipedia's reasonably complete descriptions of U.S., British, and German divisions, only a few Soviet divisions have articles here, mostly because the detailed histories have either not been translated from Russian or have not been fully released from the official archives. (See WikiProject Countering systemic bias).

Information on lots of division from lots of countries is not available, so will this become an apologetic template to be inserted at each such instance? How about one for every article that is missing such information....something like "Wikipedia apologises, but no books have been published on the subject that agree with our stringent requirements"? This entire paragraph adds nothing to the reader's information on the subject!--121.218.225.141 (talk) 14:48, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Why don't you sign in Mrg3105 (or as User:Shattered Wikiglass if you like)? It would add a little to your argument to be, in your earlier words, not an 'anon IP.' Buckshot06(prof) 15:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You have a problem with responding to an IP address? Wikipedia is written collaboratively by volunteers from all around the World. Anyone with internet access can make changes to Wikipedia articles.--121.218.225.141 (talk) 00:56, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I have no problems responding to anon IPs. Do you want me to dredge up your problems responding to them? Buckshot06(prof) 05:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

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