Talk:List of Star Wars characters/Archive 1

Infobox
Say. For characters who have infoboxes, in the captions, should we put in more info about the character or what is going on in the picture?- B-101 17:29, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

FYI
Kreiya of KOTOR II redirects here despite her not featuring anywhere in the article. Should really be fixed as it looks sloppy on wikipedia's part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.218.56 (talk) 20:39, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Jolee Bindo does the same thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.196.171 (talk) 04:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

As does Atton Rand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.196.64 (talk) 20:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Better to just delete the articles that redirect here, but don't feature any relevant content. Star Wars always seems to get irrational favorable treatment at WP. --173.13.177.204 (talk) 01:44, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Organization of characters
Why are the characters listed by their 1st name? It makes more sense to list them by their last name


 * He's right. The characters are not listed in alphabetical order of surname. This list needs sorting.


 * I'm busy at the moment, but I might just take up the task when I come back to this page.


 * Christopher, Salem, OR (talk) 18:12, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Revamp
I'm working on amalgamating this and all the other god-awful lists at Category:Lists_of_Star_Wars_characters to remove all the ORish and arbitrary topics (i.e. what makes a character a "villain"? what if he/she later is "good"?) and repetition (e.g. Leia shows up on several of them). Once I've squished them together, they can be broken up just alphabetically like the slightly-less-crappy Star Trek character lists. I've copy-and-pasted these lists as of ~11:30EST 3 Oct -- if you make any additions to this list, I'll try to be sure to maintain them in the reworked version, but please be mindful that something might accidentally be overlooked. Thanks! --EEMIV (talk) 15:39, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Barriss Offee
Barriss Offee redirects to here but she's not listed. Why? Why does she not have an article but Luminara Unduli does? Dismas |(talk) 02:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You could always be bold and write one! -- Kyle Maxwell (talk) 21:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Someone lost!
Not only Barriss Offee is lacking, but many others (I was searching for Luuke [sic] Skywalker). I found the lost infos in this old revision of List of minor Star Wars villains. Someone should fix this problem soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kar.ma (talk • contribs) 14:58, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Someone Confused?
Alright, I haven't been a member that long, but I know the page isn't supposed to look like that. There's only one line of info and nobody's names. It's called a list for crymony! I mean, this ain't the most important page on the site, but it's kinda... crappy.

Notability
I'm curious what other editors think about the notability of some of the folks in the list. The article says it's for "prominent" characters (clearly apart from major characters like Han Solo that deserve their own article), but I personally question whether this should be cleaned up based on appropriate topics for stand-alone lists. Just something I'm thinking about, so I'd appreciate any discussion on the matter. -- Kyle Maxwell (talk) 04:41, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm all for culling this list even further than when I amalgamated it. Establishing criteria for prominence might be a bit difficult, especially for EU characters. But, yes, I've noted some trivia-creep the last week or two. --EEMIV (talk) 04:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

external link removal
While I fully agree with removing all the external links, I believe it would be more appropriate to do so as long as whoever removes the links is replacing them with an appropriate reference. It seems that about half of the characters on this list (notable or not) don't have any citation, which needs to be fixed. Khalfani Khaldun  17:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The links being removed are to Wookieepedia (which every entry has, but doesn't count as a reliable source for citation purposes) and the Databank -- to which many of these entries are already cited with a footnote. The ref-less entries on the list do not have (or didn't, a few months ago when I put this together) Databank entries; I wholeheartedly welcome references to other sources -- Essential List of Characters, maybe? --EEMIV (talk) 17:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Tahiri Veila
I do believe its BUBKISS that "Tahiri Veila" Is not on this page. I think soemone needs to do that pretty quikly to make this page any good... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.11.27.193 (talk) 03:30, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Broken links, cleanup needed
The disambig page Ghent (disambiguation) has a link to here, but there is no entry for such a character. Reading this Talk page, the same is true for many other characters. Looks like when entries were deleted, nobody went through Wikipedia to check for (now) broken links to this article. This should be done. (I am not a Star Wars fan, so have no inclination to do it.) HairyWombat (talk) 17:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Deleted Star Wars entry on Ghent (disambiguation). HairyWombat (talk) 21:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposed #REDIRECT page Ghent (Star Wars) for deletion, and this has now happened. What is needed now is for somebody to clean up the rest. (A good place to start would be Special:WhatLinksHere/List_of_Star_Wars_characters.) HairyWombat (talk) 04:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Sabé
Wasn't the decoy queen and handmaiden "Sabé" also in the second movie? Some sort of decoy queen was killed in that one, right? 141.151.23.70 (talk) 17:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sabé was only in episode one. Cordé was the decoy killed at the beginning of episode two. Dormé is the remaining handmaiden in episode two.Cariel (talk) 15:06, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Criteria for inclusion
Seeing a bunch of gunk creeping in, what do y'all think about entries on this list requiring a citeation to a secondary source or an in-line reference to a specific novel, book, game, etc. etc. in which the character appears/speaks/has influence? Some of the EU characters of borderline notability probably lack the former (and in general I prefer not to use cite for primary sources). Should help avoid generic/dubious entries like the stormtrooper at the very top (soon to be removed), and make clean-up do-able by folks who aren't die-hard fans. --EEMIV (talk) 03:12, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * So a character that actually has quite a bit of screen time and lines in the films, like Dormé, doesn't make the cut? Though she had less screen time than Sabé, all of her lines were her own, not while pretending to be Amidala. I think that warrants her being on the list more than others that still remain on the list. Cariel (talk) 15:04, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


 * WP:SOFIXIT and WP:CITE it. --EEMIV (talk) 15:08, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Where are Gorc, Pic and Maw? I want to know more about these guys. Danceswithzerglings (talk) 19:14, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

This list needs help
Either we need to have a big list with minor to no description, or several smaller lists that would allow for not such a tremendous list, and not require so many characters "not making the cut". Maybe someone from the Star Wars project could make some decisions on that.Quickmythril (talk) 05:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Please see previous comments (e.g. the section above) about this. --EEMIV (talk) 05:07, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I've read all the entries here. I don't understand what you mean.  Quickmythril (talk) 05:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * This list does need improvement. Tennispro45 00:16, 16 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tennispro45 (talk • contribs)

Cad Bane

 * I think Cad Bane should get his own article now since he is a pretty major character villain now. DjMack71 (talk) 17:09, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Jhenderson777 (talk) 20:03, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Yane
Can anyone remember why Yane is redirecting here but nothing about in the article? -- TomK32 (talk) 13:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It's one of Padme Amidala's handmaidens. 79.2.52.49 (talk) 13:10, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Linking to Wookiepedia?
I was trying to link "M-3PO" to wookiepedia on the bit about Emtrey but it wasn't working, can people who are good at linking to pages on other wikis please help. I feel that linking it would be good as it tells you (in detail) about the M-3PO series. m w (talk) 12:27, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Phthinosuchusisanancestor


 * That kind of linking is generally dissuaded, and this list in particular could too quickly be overwhelmed by tons of external-pointing links. The EL section at the bottom linking toward Wookieepedia and starwars.com are enough to steer folks toward more in-universe details. --EEMIV (talk) 12:33, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Galen Marek/Starkiller
Seeing as how Starkiller has had an entire video game (two, come October) centred around him, he should be given his own character page. -- DeCarta (talk) 1:51, 9 June 2010


 * Negative. The character has not had any significant third-party coverage independent from those video games. The character is appropriately briefly mentioned here, and sufficiently covered in an encyclopedic manner in the article about the major work in which he appears. --EEMIV (talk) 14:59, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I've considered giving Starkiller his own article, and raised the idea here. Feel free to comment on it. Harry Blue5 (talk) 15:45, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Magnaguards
Magnaguards redirects here but has no entry. --Fl e x (talk/contribs) 21:26, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Removing characters.
Clearly, there is a "mission" to dismiss the notion of what characters are notable. Perhaps you don't like my choices for removal of characters. But by rules of Wikipedia, I could have cut out most every single character for the fact that none of them assert notability. If there is no proper response to the problem, a problem which is on its fourth discussion (none of which leading to any fixing of the article), I will remove any unreferenced section, save for sections for characters with articles. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 12:04, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Individual items on List of... pages do not have to meet a threshold for independent notability -- that's a guideline that applies to subjects receiving separate coverage in their own article. There are several sections of this talk page asking for contributors to chime in with a threshold for inclusion here -- spoken dialog? published story's antagonist/protagonist? Please actually engage there with a suggestion for inclusion criterion rather than adopt a bellicose tone about removal of large swaths of content, deserving or not. --EEMIV (talk) 12:56, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This may be true, but it is completely out of hand. There is no inclusion criteria, and as such, the list is large, unwieldy, and difficult to get through. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 20:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)::

How can you have all of those R2 units featured on this character page? Most of them are useless and get blown away in episode one. They are irrelevant and should be removed from this article. --71.91.137.90 (talk) 19:08, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

It seems to me the primary criteria should be the title of the list. "List of Star Wars Characters" doesn't actually do well to assign any limitation not even notablity or relation to canon...and given that the franchise expanded to the point of licensing a multitude of authors, ANY character at all that appears in the universe anywhere becomes eligible for the list with such a vague title. The Star wars Universe is simply to expansive to have a list with such a universal title and yet still expect to curtail its size and scope. For that reasons I'd say the list needs ot pretty much be managed in much the same way the EU was managed itself and not be treated like the personal pet brainchild projects of devoted Wikipedia editors(thats what wikia pages are for) This list should either be fairly open and be able to include any and all obscure EU characters(especially and including ones that appear in canon resources like those droids that got blown away in Episode I since someone bothered to pull their names...or be deleted altogether and replaced by lists that self regulate by being entitled as related to specific works of Canon or notable derivative works of SW authors/storylines. Seriously, gone are the days when a single list could really be expected to encompass all the various "Star Wars characters" and yet still remain fairly manageable. Trying to do this relying primarily on notability as a measure is going to not only inspire alot of dabbling in editor fascism on this page, but also reduce the quality of the list in terms of scope because in the SW universe and expanded universes for a great example, purposefully removing a single character can often result in removing an entire planet or two which would also lead to potentially removing an entire historic reference to linked events throughout the galaxy and therefore remove a multitude of other characters any one of whom could become more "notable" than already noted characters as the fictional world continues to develop. This is fair warning.SoNetMedia&#39;s Alfred O. Mega (talk) 18:45, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

I guess my suggestion would be the notability of the works these characters appear or are directly connected too/referenced in, should probably be more the criteria than the characters themselves or their names, or what happened to them in the overall universe.SoNetMedia&#39;s Alfred O. Mega (talk) 18:59, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

List of characters in the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series
I've started an article in my userspace called "List of characters in the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series". Feel free to edit it. Hopefully, we'll be able to make an article on them and properly detail the characters. I've got a bunch of sources in my Sandbox, so it might be worth looking at. Harry Blue5 (talk) 22:00, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't yet see sufficient material to warrant [restoring] a stand-alone list; the content to which you linked would more appropriately be integrated here or in the individual game articles. Still, though, very good work. --EEMIV (talk) 03:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not really sure the sources would fit neatly into the list, especially for Darth Malak. Come to think off it, this list has absolutely no third party real-world sourcing... Anyway, it'd also be nice to further detail the characters, as a single sentence or so per character doesn't really explain them well. Harry Blue5 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:10, 15 February 2011 (UTC).

In all due seriousness...
This needs to be trimmed massively. We need to either get rid of many by splitting into separate character lists, or simply direct people to the respective articles (for example, if we were to not make a KoTOR article, any characters who only appear in that game would simply redirect to that game. This list is getting out of hand. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 01:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think we should make it so that characters have to have appear in either X amount of times (unsure what number to specifiy) or in such a huge pivitol role in such a huge pivitol game/film/book/etc. that they get in anyway. The last guideline will probably be subjective, so we might have to ignore it. Harry Blue5 (talk) 21:43, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * We can't use a "number of appearances" guideline. We use our best judgment. Number of appearances allowed Spike Traps from The Legend of Zelda to be in the Recurring enemies article. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:42, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * This would be so much easier if the EU hadn't given every single background character a fleshed-out backstory. Okay I don't think any of the droids under (#) should be on the list, with the exception of 4-LOM. Harry Blue5 (talk) 23:02, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, it all depends on multiple factors. Would a "List of supporting Star Wars characters" listing a couple paragraphs of info for each work? All "main" characters I would think have articles, or you could make a "List of main characters in Star Wars". This "supporting characters" list would have information on characters who are notable enough for information more then this page, but not for a full article.(this would be completely up to editor's discretion, and could use discussion to create a general consensus) Then, like any other article, a list of characters for a specific series like "KoTOR" would need to have significant coverage of some kind. This would have to be from at least 2 characters on the list that are not split. I would think this list would still be allowed to be active though. Blake (Talk·Edits) 23:09, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Each work? Do not underestimate the size of the Star Wars Expanded Universe. It leads only to anger, frustration and the dark side. Harry Blue5 (talk) 23:22, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It is most important to simply redirect most characters to the article of their origin for characters appearing in EU items that don't belong in any lists. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 23:31, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I knew that would be confusing, yet I said it anyways. I meant "Would a "List of supporting Star Wars characters" listing a couple paragraphs of info for each CHARACTER work?". As in "Would that work?" Sorry for the confusion. Blake (Talk·Edits) 23:43, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Also note, like I said above, this would only be for characters who really deserve having more then a 1 sentence description. Blake (Talk·Edits) 23:46, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Are all EU characters by nature "supporting", or are some considered "main". E.g. Would Kyle Katarn, Revan and Darth Bane be "supporting"? Harry Blue5 (talk) 23:53, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I am not sure what you mean by "EU". Elaborate? Characters that go in Supporting would be characters that were influential to the plot of whatever universe. Although the problem with this plan is that there would be "main characters" in this list due to not having anywhere else to go. Should we have a "List of main characters in Star Wars" just to contain these, and to link to the appropriate articles for those that are split? Blake (Talk·Edits) 00:57, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * EU = Expanded Universe Harry Blue5 (talk) 07:18, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

What about dividing the Star Wars film series characters and the characters created in the expanded universe. Then possibly we'll see if we can divide characters in the certain tv series / video game / literature list article etc. For example: List of Star Wars: The Clone Wars characters. We can use this certain article for linking those particular articles kind of like Lists of box office number-one films. It might be easier said than done though. But if done we can have more freedom to place more information about the characters. Jhenderson 7 7 7  23:38, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Aside from Ahsoka Tano, Cad Bane and Asajj Ventress, I can't think of any (slightly notable) characters to put on and justify a The Clone Wars list, film characters aside. But that just might be my lack of familiarity with the show. Harry Blue5 (talk) 23:45, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I am talking about both film and the television series spinoff and there is numerous new characters created for the television series along with the characters that are not original in the show. Like Aurra Sing, (not counting Star Wars episode one cameo), Captain Rex, Zirro the Hutt etc. Also see this. The main reason why I recommend that is because whenever there would be a new character in that show guess where they would probably go, here. And they need better place for information. No notability is required to introduce a character in the list article as long as there is room. Jhenderson  7 7 7  00:01, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If a list contains just names and basic info, like this list does, then there is very little inclusion criteria. But if the list actually contains real information, like we are discussing, there needs to be some sort of criteria. We can't just have people who were only in one episode. Blake (Talk·Edits) 00:57, 8 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Why are we discussing what I said is a maybe. And I don't feel that actual information I pointed to should be a article. There's got to be more information about it and that's why it is suggested. I suggested we should do something else first and maybe that can work. Jhenderson  7 7 7  01:14, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with Henderson on making a Clone Wars list. It's not about individual characters; we could have information discussing the character designs in both CG and hand-drawn animation, both of which are unique from anything ever made in Star Wars before, and I doubt that no reviews exist that discuss the characters. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 02:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

And keep in mind that was just to name a few of examples of dividing certain Star Wars media. Obviously Harry Blue5 has his own example by dividing the characters in the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series up above which could work as well. But mainly I concur that something needs to be done with this list article. Star Wars is a giant media franchise that can always put a new character in the spotlight. And the lack of information about these characters is dull. Jhenderson 7 7 7  19:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * On the note of my example, aside from Calo Nord and the other guy, do you think the KotOR list is ready to go now? Harry Blue5 (talk) 23:10, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not bad. Have you checked all of the reviews of KOTOR for reception? - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 20:52, 9 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Character concept section and critical reaction sections are recommended for a stand alone list article. I could give a whole bunch of examples but I will use some that I have worked on: List of Avatar: The Last Airbender characters, List of SpongeBob SquarePants characters, and the never recognized List of The Spectacular Spider-Man characters. Jhenderson  7 7 7  21:55, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Removed characters...why?
I added the following characters to the list before their removal: Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes, Barada, Pablo-Jill, Barquin D'an, and Coleman Trebor.

I added a couple of these characters more than once (they were removed more than once). Pablo-Jill and Barada are both not that notable, but I had only just made my account and was experimenting with the editing, and I understand why they were removed. However, as for the other ones, I am questioning why:

Coleman Trebor is notable for being shot and killed by Jango Fett, and many Star Wars fans would be able to recognize him if it is explained who he is.

I believe every member of the Max Rebo Band is on the list, but I noted Barquin D'an wasn't, so I added him. But he was removed.

Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes have their own article, which I linked to when I added them to the list. They are notable, so I don't understand why they were removed.

Can someone tell me why these characters were removed from the list? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starwarsmaniac42 (talk • contribs) 23:32, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Jango Fett shot a lot of people. What makes Trebor any more notable than the rest of them? Honestly, I don't think each member of the Max Rebo Band should be on the list, let alone have an own article on the band. Maybe list Max Rebo, but I don't any other of the band members should be on the list. Harry Blue5 (talk) 01:29, 13 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I am at a loss to understand people who think less information is better than more information. Rick Norwood (talk) 00:04, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

yeh don't try to figure that out [User:Rick Norwood|Rick Norwood] I think some people forget the point of an encyclopedia resource is preservation of info. Anything verifiably connected to something notable should be preserved as best it can exist in the context of information. The Max Rebo Band and its members are clearly a notable fixture in the Star wars Universe and the saga's notability in popular culture. To ad to this point I'd say that even dis canonization doesn't exclusively determine what appears in the record. As someone pointed out "notability" is more important. IF there is someone concerned with storage resources being used up or style issues that is whats being used to justify unwarranted deletion of information, then the thing to do create better cleaner versions and or donate to the wikipedia not use the open editing power to cull articles based on personal lack of interest of certain details. Also I'd like to just take this conversation as an opportunity stress that, because of serious changes are happening to the canon storyline since the Star Wars franchise is now in the possession of a new management(Disney). We can't have encyclopedic information held hostage to the whims of business arrangements and licenses. That is part of why copyright issues don't really effect wikipedia or any encyclopedia. The reality is if some characters from the Expanded Universe become or remain just as well known and established in information than the licensed canon of the franchise it would follow that those encyclopedic references should be held in the same priority that they are due even if it means that they command more or less notability than the actual Star Wars franchise features themselves as parts of the entertainment business. Clearly whoever holds the license to a work of fiction has the advantage in doing what it takes to make their product more notable than any derived works, so its not necessary or appropriate for encyclopedia authors to make it their mission to keep or alter existing information from derived works and or inexplicably suppress derivative works including new or ongoing (but somehow yet notable) to keep things in line with whats going on with the latest novels or scripts of the movie business. The Star Wars Expanded Universe and its licensing peculiarities during the Lucasfilm eras of this franchise and as a whole phenomenon at present is arguably still extremely notable compared to the newer movies that are eventually to emerge eg the new Episode 7 Movie that is produced by Disney contracts and like the original trilogy and prequel trilogy respectively, they exist in their own encyclopedic realms of importance. The only way to rightfully change this fact is to alter the tests of notability themselves that dictates what should appears in wikipedia and how it should do so. In other words its logical to make a distinction between the new works and the old works because of facts surrounding production, and the reception of the world. Sure, for the sake of information and presentation it may be necessary to arrange topics,articles,and pages to be more informative and efficient, and various kinds of pages and articles will naturally exist for such an epic phenomenon that has effected the world on so many levels for so long a period..but the collective of information itself needs to be maintained under every circumstance possible, once it becomes determined to be notable enough to bear reference it must require a stronger rationale for deletion than what [User:Harry Blue5|Harry Blue5] has presented in this case. Without having read those deleted articles I wouldn't be able to suggest if there were other more valid reasons for their deletion, but it seems to me that once it can be determined through reference and other tests that the information is worthy of note pr supported by existing information, then it should remain even in an inadequate state until it is improved. Clearly this is subject of measures that concern the integrity of the Wikipedia encyclopedic resource itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.176.113.121 (talk) 18:14, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Separation?
I think this list should be separated by how the characters appear, such as one section the Prequel Trilogy and one of the Original. And I think there should be separate lists for The Clone Wars characters and other things, like books. Does anyone else agree? Starwarsmaniac42 (talk) 01:26, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It's been suggested in the section two thingymajigs above. I've gone and created List of characters in the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series. Harry Blue5 (talk) 10:38, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I am likely to start creating a list for at least one of the movies, but I'm not completely sure. We'll just have to see what happens in the future, and if anyone else agrees with this idea and might be willing to help.Starwarsmaniac42 (talk) 00:55, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit hesistant on splitting per movie, especially if we do split it into more subfranchises. Harry Blue5 (talk) 22:45, 21 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Splitting per subtrilogy no. But splitting all the film trilogy characters from just the only Expanded Universe characters could maybe work as I suggested before. The two different trilogy's can then maybe be split by section possible though. Jhenderson  7 7 7  22:50, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I feel that it'd be best to cover characters originating from the prequel trilogy apart from the original trilogy; generally, their reception is independent from one another. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 14:25, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree that there should be separate articles for film characters and expanded universe characters. That might help to split this article to where they can be covered better. Blake (Talk·Edits) 14:39, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

The Clone Wars characters
I'm starting up a List of Star Wars: The Clone Wars characters in my userspace. As usual, anyone's free to help. Just commenting here to see if anyone had any support/objections for the idea. Harry Blue5 (talk) 23:46, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note that if I do make this list, I plan on merging Cad Bane into it due to his lack of unique sources. Harry Blue5 (talk) 23:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't know about the idea of merging Cad Bane, he seems fine as a article when it comes to development section and having a reception section. And the reception stands out with notability. And per WP:Split he seems fine standing alone. I do prefer a article that had it's own DYK in the main page to stay and be expanded but that's just me. Jhenderson  7 7 7  00:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * We don't have to merge him into the Clone Wars list, but I don't really think he has enough reception for his own article. I think that Cad Bane could fit really nicely into the list, as we could easily put development into the character ala List of Street Fighter characters. Harry Blue5 (talk) 08:19, 18 April 2011 (UTC)


 * In my opinion Balroq didn't have to be merged either. But as I said I am normally a inclusionist and am not a big fan of forced redirections unless the article is terrible in some way. Also there is a lot of other kind of reviews such as reviews of Cad Bane's action figures if that counts. I noticed the article is also uncomplete in the other portrayals section for he has appeared in the newest Lego Star Wars video games I do believe. Basically what I am trying to say if the article qualifies WP:GNG no need for merge. Jhenderson  7 7 7  13:42, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Wait, did Cad Bane have an action figure? 'Cuz if he did, that should be in the article. Harry Blue5 (talk) 14:38, 18 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes check here and when I clicked Cad Bane reviews I got mostly action figure reviews. I also know Cad Bane is in Lego Star Wars I can find a source for that if you want. Also I found a Entertainment Weekly source focusing on Cad Bane which can be good for reception of the character. Check here. I will probably be looking for more. :) Jhenderson  7 7 7  16:50, 18 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Here's the source for Lego Star Wars toys and like I said he appeared in the latest Lego Star Wars video game I do believe. Jhenderson  7 7 7  18:57, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I won't merge Cad Bane into it. Are there any other characters I should add into the list? Harry Blue5 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Merging Cad Bane is probably not a terrible idea if it is beneficial maybe making the list article better. We'll see later on but for right now let's leave as is. Here is the film characters and here is the television series characters. The television is definitely including a lot it even included Chewbacca in the last episode in Season 3 so there is quite a few characters to include. Does these section links help? Jhenderson  7 7 7  17:40, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Question, is Plo Koon actually a main protagonist? Harry Blue5 (talk • contribs) 18:40, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

He's a recurring character. I am not sure I would say main though. He would probably belong more on the Jedi section. Jhenderson 7 7 7  19:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Bringing up the quality issues again.
I feel that this list is of too low quality to be used as a merge target. As is, you cannot possibly merge anything from the article, as every character is given only a sentence of description, a couple if they are lucky. We either need to cut characters not notable enough to be mentioned, or split the list off ASAP. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 19:59, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem with this list is that it lists every single person in the Star Wars universe that has a name. It needs to be cut to have only important characters that are not notable for an article, but notable enough to mention in some form, such as Wedge Antilles, Nute Gunray, Ki-Adi-Mundi, etc. List of characters in the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series is a good example of a list that works. Blake (Talk·Edits) 20:58, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The KotOR list has a slight advantage in that, at the end of the day, it's only coverring a single series, while the SW EU is pretty much covering hundreds of different stuff. – Harry Blue5 (talk • contribs) 12:27, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, why does there need to be a list of all characters from every media all in one place? Why not have a short list(or prose) in the articles of the "extended universe" media they appear in? Blake (Talk·Edits) 17:46, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Because of the vastness of the Expanded Universe, certain characters (usually related to some Skywalker) have appeared in a whole bunch of series, which makes it harder to pin them down to anything in particular. We could make a rule "must have appeared in more than one series", or something similar, and then split other characters across the series articles they're in. – Harry Blue5 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * So make a Reoccurring characters in Star Wars article, and split the others to where they belong? Blake (Talk·Edits) 18:25, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Could work. It might also be worth checking if there are any more series that would be worth giving their own character list article. – Harry Blue5 (talk • contribs) 12:25, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Sullustan
The entry for Nien Nunb reads as follows.

"Nien Nunb – portrayed by Richard Bonehill (in full body suit) and Mike Quinn (as puppet aboard the Millennium Falcon), voiced by Kipsang Rotich Sullustan and Lando Calrissian's co-pilot in Return of the Jedi."

Who the dickens was Sullustan? And, if he was a pilot in Return of the Jedi, why isn't he listed?

Rick Norwood (talk) 00:06, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Just discovered that Sullustan is a race, not a character. I'll rewrite the entry to make that clear. Rick Norwood (talk) 00:09, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Asyr Sei'lar
Whoever edited her out of this list is an asshole.

--66.32.254.78 (talk) 19:42, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Seriously. A bunch of random R2 units no one has ever heard of or the New Republics top ranking female fighter ace.

--71.91.137.90 (talk) 19:03, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Star Wars The Old Republic
With the game now being release, I believe we should add a few central characters from it. I already added Darth Malgus and Grand Master Satele Shan with references. Alexj25 (talk) 10:57, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Padme Amidala
dies giving birth....The birth of Luke and Leia was further complicated... More complicated than dying? She must've had a REALLY hard time with it. Can we rephrase this? 75.140.96.83 (talk) 05:20, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

The starwars.com/databank links are broken, which is most of the links on this page
This page has more than a hundred links to starwars.com/databank. The site broke that path, and all those links are 404. There are new paths for some characters, like:

http://www.starwars.com/explore/encyclopedia/characters/chewbacca/

But I couldn't find entries for the minor characters that I checked. I marked one link dead, individually, before I saw the size of the problem. Personally, I don't have a bad enough feeling about this, to be motivated to wade into that. Maybe someone with more skills can do it semi-automatedly. Ale And Quail (talk) 02:46, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Sun Fac
Sun Fac is the Geonosis 2nd in command of Poggle The Lesser. During the battle of Geonosis a clone commando task force, a.k.a Delta squad was sent to eliminate Sun Fac. Sun Fac was offered to hide with the other separatist leaders but he refused and attempted to escape the planet. However, when he taking off in his Geonosis Star-fighter,clone trooper Delta 07 shot Sun Fac's star-fighter down with a clone sniper rifle. Sun Fac was killed in the star-fighter explosion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.100.23.187 (talk) 20:28, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Many listed but not sourced
Trying to understand this list when only familiar with the theatrical films is near impossible, as many of the names don't indicate if they're from movies, television, comic books, video games, novels, or whatever. I only made it through the D's and found these give no indication of where they appear (undoubtedly there are more examples): Abeloth, Darth Andeddu, Bail Antilles, Attichitcuk, Garm Bel Iblis, Nas Choka, Darth Cognus, Cradossk, Hego Damask, General Oro Dassyne, Gizor Delso, D'harhan, Lok Durd. 174.19.128.132 (talk) 04:29, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Bail Organa?
Bail Organa forwards to this article, but he is only briefly mentioned on the page; there is no character listing of him in the list. 85.179.249.234 (talk) 17:27, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Dead links
About half of the external links in the references are labelled with "dead link". This looks stupid. Shouldn't the references be removed? J I P &#124; Talk 08:48, 23 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Generally, no. WP:V requires verifiability, but the usual assumption is that the editor who added a statement and left a source checked it at the time the statement was added to the article.  WP:V does not require that all sources be "online" via the web; else books and magazines could not be used to cite claims.


 * That being said, specific challenges as to specific claims and the (potentially older with no URL) source may yet be made, and the now-missing URL source might very well be insufficient for keeping a statement in the encyclopedia. If you have specific instances, challenge them with a citation needed tag and an explanation in the edit comment, or in a hidden comment in the article, as to why or what you are challenging.  Cheers. N2e (talk) 23:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Siri Tachi?
I have a question. For "Siri Tachi", couldn't it also be, "Siri Taichi"? I've seen both spellings of her name in different places and don't know which is the right spelling, it could be misspelled here in this article. 50.88.218.76 (talk) 21:06, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Split Page
Given the new Star Wars canon makes only characters from the 6 movies, Star Wars The Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels canon, I propose that the page be split into 3 sections, Canon, Legends and Infinities, based off the three stages of canon. Someone must make these changes, as this article makes little sense without them.

For more information, see The Holocron Database and Wookieepedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.234.33 (talk) 15:50, 24 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Canon status is pretty immaterial at Wikipedia; we're more preoccupied with what is verifiable. This may be a useful proposal/notion at e.g. Wookieepedia, but it doesn't really have an impact here. --EEMIV (talk) 02:22, 26 January 2015 (UTC)


 * It's still misleading to potential readers to leave the page in its current state. TheDidact118 (talk) 15:23, 3 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Canon status is apparently the standard for inclusion in List of Star Trek characters, so why not here? I say remove all the non-canonical characters - the ones who are not in the official films or the canonical TV shows. This means, for example, not including characters from the 80s cartoon shows, just like how the Star Trek Animated Series characters are not canon. I would say, we could wait until after the next movie(s) come out, in order to see if any of the book/novel/video games canon is migrated over, but there will be (or already are) many people coming here to read about the characters from the new movies, and not caring about the book or comic characters that aren't in the same canon. Even better, it will make this page much shorter. Mathmannix (talk) 18:49, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Canon-ness isn't a standard for inclusion at the Trek wikiproject or, I think, anywhere; as a whole, we are instead concerned with verifiability. (And, even if canon-ness were an inclusion criterion at one wikiproject, that's not a compelling reason to adopt it elsewhere -- no more so than, say, suggesting the other project ditch it because it's not required at some other project.) The inclusion criteria here and at other lists of characters in both franchises/wikiprojects is pretty vague and weak -- generally, verification being the only requirement. There have been suggestions at this talk page (and/or the Trek character ones) to winnow that down to e.g. characters who've received a modicum of third-party coverage (but short of the critical mass to meet WP:GNG), but those notions have stopped short of implementation. Lastly, while a section break along "canon"-ness lines might be navigable by a fan, "Legends," "Canon," and whatever the third item is would be cryptic descriptors for non-fans and thus inappropriate. --EEMIV (talk) 20:21, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Probe droid?
Probe droid redirects to this page. But there is no "probe droid" to be found and described anywhere in the article. Cheers. N2e (talk) 23:05, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

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Can we stick to canon?
Can we stick to what's canon for this list? Can we possibly have a list like "List of Star Wars Expanded Universe characters"? For example, Shaak Ti was not killed by any Galen Marek fellow, because that video game is not canon. The only canon material for Star Wars are the six movies, Star Wars: The Clone Wars film, Star Wars: The Clone Wars TV series, and Star Wars Rebels. -- Amaryllis Gardener  talk 14:51, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Canon status isn't a criterion for inclusion for this wikiproject or Wikipedia as a whole; instead, verifiability rules the day. Where e.g. two different stories present conflicting details, that's just worth pointing out and citing. Canon-ness with regard to this list of a red herring for unclear inclusion criteria. It might be worth culling this to include, for example, only characters about whom we can find at least one instance of third-party commentary (outside licensed texts). This page, though, is so low-profile as to not have garnered much attention or discussion around inclusion criteria. --EEMIV (talk) 15:48, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * What I wonder, is what will we do when episode VII comes out, and what will we do if it doesn't agree with the EU stuff, like if I've heard correctly of the EU stuff, perhaps no Mara Jade Skywalker or Yuuzhan Vong Invasion? I, personally, like what they've done at Skywalker_family. -- Amaryllis Gardener  talk 18:27, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I came here to say the same thing LOL. Separating the canon and EU characters would do a world of good. Doesn't even have to be on separate pages; just a canon section and an EU section.Oscar666kta420swag (talk) 01:54, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

I also agree with removing non canon characters, or spinning of a legends page. Admittedly I am not willing to do that work. As for now, I am going to add this to the top:
 * The characters on this list come from the movies and from the Star Wars extended universe. Many of the characters created for the original extended universe, now called Legends, no longer are considered canon. These characters have been kept on this list. Oldag07 (talk) 20:25, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Merge...?
I raised the possibility of a merge for this article at WT:FILM and WT:STARWARS. - the WOLF  child  16:22, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Major characters...?
Are Admiral Piett, Wedge Antilles and Mon Mothma really considered "major characters"...? It would seem the list is fairly complete. Along with a discussion about these three, I would suggest that any other potential additions be proposed on the talk page first for consensus. IMHO - the <em style="font-family:Matisse itc;color:red">WOLF  child  16:26, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

The table
Is table format really necessary? It stretches the page a significant amount, and I don't see why that information cannot be presented in prose. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  15:19, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

The table is ridiculous. Not only is it messy, all of this information is listed in two separate articles. There are too many films and too many actors to list in one table, which is why two whole separate articles have been dedicated to displaying this information. For the cast members both the articles; "List of Star Wars cast members" and "List of Star Wars: The Clone Wars cast members" is extensive enough. It is completely unnessescary to list all that here. Unless anyone disagrees I am going to remove the table as it is actually damaging the quality of the article. Xpion (talk) 01:21, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Listing together characters whom are family
Can we list the characters whom are family together? I was thinking on keeping the list alphabetical, but we make a subtopic for each family within the letter of their family name, at the bottom each letter, so they can be found more easily and to make the list easier to navigate. Rather than having the characters whom are family spread out. Rosvel92 (talk) 02:29, 21 August 2016 (UTC) Rosvel92 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosvel92 (talk • contribs) 02:26, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that would help, placing them at the bottom of the letters? The page already doesn't have a vertical ToC and it doesn't use headings, so I'm not sure how exactly it would decrease navigation issues. (Though, I was thinking yesterday about how the page should be converted out of semicolon formatting and use headings per WP:BADHEAD.) It's probably worth noting that there are currently two articles involving families: Skywalker family and Solo family. Personally, I think that some of the navigation issues would be solved a set of inclusion criteria (what that would be is a different line of discussion). Is family members being spread out really such an issue (and don't those who share a family name already end up grouped together)? Or, is it like having Leia Organa, Han Solo, and Kylo Ren in separate sections? But, then, if we subdivide the letters to have a subsection for family, how does one decide who goes where? Does Leia get listed with the Skywalker family, the Organa family, or the Solo family? Does Padme get listed with the Skywalkers or the Naberries, who don't share her name of state? In those cases, (assuming strict alphabetically, Leia stays under O with the Organas) does it become confusing to have family section that excludes certain members who happens to not commonly use that family name? Or, (assuming characters are grouped with family members, Leia goes... somewhere not under O?), does it become confusing to have characters who don't alphabetically belong there, but belong in that family section? Do these family subsections (which, I don't think there will be many of them) have enough value to potentially contradict or complicate the ordering scheme? Is it really currently too hard to find family members that it hampers navigation enough to do this? I personally don't believe these subections would add much to the article. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  03:18, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Well I don't think we should have a subtopic for each of the families, just darkened letters. And yeah giving priority to placing together wife and husband over parentage, (so Leia would be in Solo, Padme in Skywalker), I believe something like this would suffice:

Organa Family: The adoptive fathers of Princess Leia.(see Solo Family)<- We specify the absent members in a brief one sentence description. Leia Organa's adoptive father. He is the Senator of Alderaan and one of the Rebel Alliance's founding members. He was killed in the destruction of Alderaan.[5] Adrian Dunbar portrayed Organa for scenes cut from The Phantom Menace.[5] Ruler of Alderaan, wife of Bail Organa, and adoptive mother of Leia Organa. She was killed in the destruction of Alderaan alongside her husband.
 * Bail Prestor Organa – portrayed by Jimmy Smits.
 * Queen Breha Organa – portrayed by Rebecca Jackson Mendoza

(And Leia would be placed with Han Solo, as Solo-Skywalker) Rosvel92 (talk) 20:36, 21 August 2016 (UTC) Rosvel92 Rosvel92 (talk) 20:43, 21 August 2016 (UTC)Rosvel92


 * This approach seems too in-universe. Characters should be listed alphabetically by their WP:Common names.— TAnthonyTalk 01:45, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Inclusion criteria?
I mentioned it in passing in the previous section, but should this list have some sort of inclusion criteria, past "is a canon character", that is and the same for the Legends list? If so, what should that inclusion criteria look like? I generally think that characters who are very minor to the series overall, who aren't even supporting characters in an EU work, probably don't belong here? Like, to pick an example, I'm not overly sure Coleman Kcaj, who seems to only show up in Jedi Council scenes to fill a seat, is important enough to warrant inclusion. Wookieepedia can cover every single character, and this list (and the Legends list) should probably cover the more important members of the cast. I'm not exactly sure how to construct an inclusion criteria here, or probably more precisely how to determine if a character is too minor, especially since this is considering a massive range of titles here. Like, has a significant role in at least one title (i.e., has a title centered around them or is a significant supporting character in a title somewhere)? I don't know. I'm not even sure if the two lists are currently using a sort of inclusion criteria already, but perhaps it'd be useful to establish a clear one? It'd at least help with any sort of cleanup going forward. (Again, as I mentioned before, it seems to me that the lists need to be converted out of semicolon headings per WP:BADHEAD and maybe it'd be of use to figure out other things to do at the same time.) ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  02:19, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Characters which have WP:RS commenting on them (in any capacity) is usually a good start. Then see what's left (or what's not left). --Izno (talk) 11:39, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * That was exactly what I was going to suggest. This list and the Legends list have almost no citations, but should.— TAnthonyTalk 14:57, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Black Sun
Black Sun (Star Wars) redirects here, but is not mentioned. --Der-Wir-Ing (talk) 16:45, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that. For now I have redirected that link to Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008 TV series), the series in which they seem to have been introduced.— TAnthonyTalk 17:14, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Rogue One characters
At what point is it appropriate to add the characters from Rogue One: A Star Wars Story? That page links here, but none of the characters make this list. Do we have to wait until the film debuts?Pistongrinder (talk) 20:25, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Upon closer look, I see that Mon Mothma is an exception (and her description does reference Rogue One). But no mention of Saw Gerrera, who is a major Clone Wars character. He at least should be added.Pistongrinder (talk) 20:29, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Mon Mothma and Saw Gerrera are pre-existing characters. As for when we will add Rogue One characters, it should be after they make their official appearances. So most of them probably won't be added until after the release of the novel Catalyst: A Rogue One Story in November, or after the release of the film itself. DarkKnight2149 19:55, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * So add Saw Gerrera to this list, but wait on the rest?Pistongrinder (talk) 20:12, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Since he is a pre-existing character, I have added him to the list.Pistongrinder (talk) 21:54, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd say wait on any of the characters that haven't made aan official appearance yet. DarkKnight2149 22:12, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

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Notability issues
This list has become very long, and like List of Star Wars planets and moons (and per WP:NOTESAL and WP:LSC) we need to limit this large list by only including entries for independently notable items or those with Wikipedia articles. There are many entries for characters who appear only briefly or are mentioned in one or few works, and the list is slightly undersourced. Primary sources (the Databank or the novel/comic/game itself) or secondary sources (the Lucasfilm encyclopedia of your choice) may establish facts, but not notability. Entries should be cited with reliable independent sources, and this should not be difficult for actual notable characters as there are a lot of reliable websites that discuss Star Wars-related media. I'll curate a list below of entries I remove in case reintroduction to the list becomes appropriate.— TAnthonyTalk 02:39, 22 March 2017 (UTC)


 * A good idea to trim some of the characters who'd appear in a few lines in a book, a scene or two in a game or a comic; but care or discussion should be taken when determining notability of some for sure. Not that any have been removed yet that I disagree with (other than Sio Bibble, with appearances in 3 movies); but I do think that a lot of minor characters that appear in the main movie saga could be considered notable, as many have entered pop culture through the 40 years of memorabilia, books, comics and toys produced. Removing a movie character only named in a reference book with almost no other media supporting them? Sure move them here. But just as an example, I see full pages of many Transformers or comic book characters that I would consider far less known in the main stream than most Star Wars characters of slightly lesser or similar ilk to the likes of Ponda Baba or Dr. Evazan. The sheer number of action figures sold of some of the minor characters (easily in the millions), would make many well known as well. Decades of stories now relegated to the Legends canon, doesn't erase the wider notability of a character, who may now only appear briefly in the new canon. It was after all a corporate decision, and doesn't negate public consciousness of the characters. I would also stand by any important new characters added in novels, comics, Rebels, etc, as long as they are integral characters appearing through-out the novel in question (for books), or making multiple notable appearances in multiple comics, games or television episodes.— RamshackleMan (talk) 10:50, 22 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, I was thinking some of those same things re: the film saga, but we should still have a third party source. Because it's Star Wars, the original films would have been analyzed to death; for example, I'm sure that every alien in the Cantina has been officially named and identified. But we need more than a Visual Dictionary to assert notability; I feel like with a lot of the miscellaneous aliens and Senators in the the prequel trilogy, we are relying on the Databank, which doesn't cut it. But like I said, it's Star Wars and there are certainly sources out there. I'm not going thru the whole list today, and will try to remove only the most obvious; Sio Bibble still seemed like a blip to me, but perhaps I should have tried to find a decent source before I moved that entry. In any case, everything is open for discussion and please let me know if this becomes disruptive. Regarding new characters from the comics and such, I think we're fortunate in that IGN or something will cover all of it.— TAnthonyTalk 13:02, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for continuing to find and add citations to this list! — TAnthonyTalk 14:27, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

List
Taking these off for now due to notability issues as discussed above. Feel free to re-added or discuss if you feel these are notable enough to warrant entry onto the list.RamshackleMan (talk) 08:09, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Legends References & Notability Issues
Just wondering, since it seems to be the practice to remove characters from the List of Star Wars Legends characters once they appear in the new canon; is it now ok to also note some of these characters history and cite references from the Legends continuity on this list? Some of these characters may not seem to be very notable when seen only through the new canon, but may have extensive backstories (with many references) in the Legends continuity that are now entirely missing from wikipedia. I'm not thinking people should add anything extensive, but a notable line or two, referenced from the old canon may help improve and add citations to some of these entries.RamshackleMan (talk) 09:08, 28 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I think yes, some Legends history can and should be noted (with citations). The usefulness or popularity of a character in the "old continuity" invariably affects whether they are introduced into the "new canon", and some may definitely be more notable in the Legends continuity. To me, it's the same as noting when a character has been used in toys or Lego video games. In cases where a character's entry in this list is the primary home for the topic (like Dengar, Bazine Netal, and PZ-4CO), we should be including as much relevant notable info as the space constraints of a table will allow.— TAnthonyTalk 15:56, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Merger proposal
Formal request has been received to merge Rose Tico into List of Star Wars characters; dated: April 2018. Proposer's Rationale: this article already has an entry for this character. Her own article is almost all plot, has no reliable sources to prove notability, and she has only been in one Star Wars movie so far. Discuss here. Richard3120 (talk) 17:19, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as not notable and would place undue weight w umbolo   ^^^  18:04, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect per nom. - Brojam (talk) 19:16, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Pure Last Jedi troll hatred and vandalism, nothing to do with character; there is no question of notability. They appear in a major role in a major film with more speaking lines than many of the characters that already have their own pages. Also now appear in multiple works of fiction and media. Ridiculous.RamshackleMan (talk) 21:23, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * See WP:N, WP:OTHERCONTENT and WP:PA. w umbolo   ^^^  22:12, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Ridiculous nonetheless. It will be back on sooner or later, as the character does fit the notability criteria and the notability will increase though future media regardless of any personal feelings or vendettas against the character or movies. RamshackleMan (talk) 05:45, 29 August 2018 (UTC)