Talk:List of Supernanny episodes

Edits
This is for anyone who wishes to discuss any issues involving Supernanny Episodes Please inform me of any problems. Thanks Tennisdude92 (talk) 02:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)tennisdude92

Removed plagiarized material
I just removed most of the episode synopsis material because I discovered that it was copied verbatim (and in some cases, nearly verbatim) from the episode synopses on ABC's website. This is not only plagiarism, it's copyright infringement, and can get Wikipedia in legal trouble. I spotted a few instances where the editor who added the material did some paraphrasing, and even a couple of episodes that are not even on ABC's site episode list, so I left those. In the future, please edit material found elsewhere, rather than copying it verbatim.

I also added References and External links sections, and converted a couple of bare references. Nightscream (talk) 23:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Continuation?
The Lewis family was an especially emotional episode (Nov. 21)

Offtopic: the likelihood of wikipedia getting into "legal trouble" is less than getting struck by lightning and winning the lotto XD —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnyLL (talk • contribs) 01:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Tables
The tables seem to be a bit messed up currently, after the edits by "86.167.100.127". I don't want to revert it entirely, as there might be some significant information inserted within the mess, but someone that knows more about the syntax should probably look into it. 72.240.184.75 (talk) 05:34, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Done. --Szente (talk) 20:12, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Super-Manny specials and 100th episode special
Should the Super-Manny specials (as short annotations with references to the official episode guide on abc.com in the summary sections) and the 100th episode special be mentioned in the List of Supernanny episodes (United States), as I did in this revision, which was being reverted by 86.171.13.204 here?

I think it is quite worth and important to mention these facts.

Any opinions on that topic are welcome. Nzlmbrino (talk) 17:33, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Plankton5165's Situation
I saw Plankton5165 create the Supernanny Wiki and another user that didn't use any of his IP addresses edit the wiki from here.

68.38.136.230 (talk) 19:12, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

List of America's Supernanny episodes
America's Supernanny is a reality TV programme that originated in the United States, airing on NBC. The show features professional nanny Deborah Tillman, who devotes each episodes to helping a family where the parents are struggling with their child-rearing.

Episodes
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.48.63 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Is there a reason that you posted this? --AussieLegend ( ✉ ) 22:22, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Restructuring family descriptions
Hello, right now I'm in the process of trimming the descriptions for each family as it's a bit too wordy. The format I'm using is Parent #1 Name, Parent #2 Name (if applicable) and Child Names (+ages). Like this as an example: For the Charles Family- Amanda, Kevin, Jacob (4), Isabelle (1) and Max (1). Isabelle and Max are fraternal twins. The italics aren't really going to be used but it specifies for any special notes that was already mentioned on the list of Supernanny episodes. I've done the UK version but I'll be tackling the US version later today or so. Thanks! Tibbydibby (talk) 18:09, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 December 2016
2602:306:CCAE:92A0:89E2:6F8F:EE3A:F17E (talk) 02:07, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. &mdash;Skyllfully (talk &#124; contribs) 05:03, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Verbosity
"...four-year-old fraternal twins called George and Nicole."

means the same thing as

"...a four-year-old boy called George and and a four-year-old girl called Nicole. George and Nicole are fraternal twins."

One uses 7 words.

The other uses 18.

One simply states they have four-year-old twins.

The other states they have one child who is four years old, a second child who is four years old and that the first and second child are twins.

One is concise.

The other repetatively and redundantly says the same things multiple times through several statements when they could have been stated at one time without the repetition to convey the same information in a much simpler form without repeating things or unnecessarily increasing the length and word count of the statement to convey the same information.

Wikipedia editors are not paid by the word. Brevity is beautiful. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 19:22, 6 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The Paid-by-the-word Vandal is back with another IP address. I've given them a final warning with a reminder to discuss the issue. Further edits without discussing the issue will be treated as vandalism, with blocks and page protection as needed. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 16:46, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Changes to names and locations
We have a recurring situation with an IP editor coming through here (and similar articles) and changing names of people and locations without explanation or sources.

We have a similar, if less common, problem with age changes.

Both of these are in addition to the "Paid by the word vandal" (discussed under "Verbosity", above), though it could easily be one person.

In a related article, I was unable to find a reliable source for the correct info and merely removed the list. That would involve deleting the article here.

As a stop-gap measure, I will be reverting all such changes that do not provide a source and/or explain. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 16:16, 16 April 2017 (UTC)


 * We seem to be getting nowhere on this. The editor has now moved up to changing EVERY date in the article, still with no sources or explanation. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 14:16, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Continued disruption
The same IP editor identified in the past two threads is now trying to completely restructure the article while removing some material, adding some more unsourced material and changing some material. As usual, they have not provided sources or made any attempt to explain what they are doing or discuss the issue.

Because of recurring vandalism on this article (and related articles), ANY change to existing information or addition of new information MUST include a reliable source and/or an explanation. Changes/additions without a source and/or explanation will be reverted. If necessary, the page can be protected from editing and/or a range IP block can prevent you from editing.

I do not see a benefit to the restructuring. As there has been no explanation and there are changes/additions being made at the same time, I have reverted those changes as well. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 18:17, 12 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Now that you have registered an account,, I can specifically invite you here. This topic and the two above it specifically refer to your edits. Please comment. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 01:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * has been blocked for disruption. They are continuing to edit without logging in. This is block evasion and I am reverting their edits. I somewhat expect to need to open a sock puppetry case, but I'll give them a chance to stop editing, wait out the block and discuss the issues here. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 19:09, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Kerry Pentlow's block has been made indefinite as a result of the sock case. Unless/until they successfully request an unblock, all of their edits may be blocked without further explanation, per WP:EVADE. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 22:15, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

protected edit request on 16 June 2017
165.120.138.81 (talk) 15:18, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Murph 9000 (talk) 15:40, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The IP is just back from a block as a sock of the indefinitely blocked who was blocked for disrupting this article. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 16:24, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Disruption
Due to continued disruption by a problematic editor, block evasion, etc., the article is edit protected. To make any changes, you will now need to request them on this talk page. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 01:25, 22 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Looks like one month of protection wasn't enough. We'll have to lock it down for a bit longer.


 * If anyone is ready to explain the changes at any point we can end this nonsense. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 21:35, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2017
81.159.217.107 (talk) 09:53, 25 July 2017 (UTC) Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 15:05, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2017
The Harmony family if from Hutchinson, Kansas, not St, Paul, MN. 2602:306:3357:BA0:21D4:E8DC:7BC6:EBD0 (talk) 03:23, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — nihlus kryik   ( talk ) 03:30, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * http://supernanny.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_episodes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:3357:BA0:21D4:E8DC:7BC6:EBD0 (talk) 03:30, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Other wikis are WP:USERGENERATED and cannot be used as reliable sources. — nihlus kryik   ( talk ) 03:32, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

On-going disruption
As discussed extensively on this talk page, all unexplained changes to names, ages, dates, locations, etc. are being reverted.

If you see names, ages, dates, locations, etc. that are wrong, you will need to explain where you got the correct information from. If you make that change without explaining, your changes will be reverted. If you make them again, they will be reverted again. If you keep making them, you will be blocked from editing, your changes will be reverted and the page will be protected.

If you can't figure out what the problem is, read this again until you figure out what you will need to do. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 03:19, 1 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, I guess it's time for page protection again. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 03:43, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Ages
not sure why my edits got removed if someone could please explain as the ages of some of the kids do not correspond with what the show is saying please fix or explain why my edits were removed thanks 174.92.12.156 (talk) 21:35, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * As discussed above (at "Changes to names and locations", "Continued disruption", "Disruption" and "On-going disruption"), this article has a long history of unexplained changes to basic information without explanations and/or sources. Several of the edits conflict with each other (i.e., different spellings of names, ages and locations for the same person). The page has been edit protected several times to buy short breaks in the madness.


 * Your edits made changes to basic information without sources or explanation. You will need to cite sources for the changes you are trying to make. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 01:04, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a program guide
Wikipedia is not TV Guide. There is little reason to believe the names of random, non-notable individuals, their ages, their medical diagnoses, where they live, etc. are in any way encyclopedic.

Additionally, most of the information here has been repeatedly changed by one or more unregistered editors without sources or explanation. One minute, the article is about Karen and Mike Smith in Birmingham, then it's about Karin and Richard Smythe in Nottingham. Suddenly, their twins are 2 years apart and the other two kids are a few years younger than they were. One of them, previously diagnosed with autism now has cerebral palsy instead. Given that virtually none of it is sourced, all of it might be wrong or some of it might be right.

I propose a selective merge to Supernanny. Comments? - Sum mer PhD v2.0 01:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)