Talk:List of The Joey Bishop Show episodes

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Hi, I appreciate your edits to THE JOEY BISHOP SHOW episode guide. However, several of the air dates and the broadcast order are incorrect, particularly in Season Three. I have verified all of them with newspaper listings and TV Guide articles. There could be a more effective way of providing a source for the corrections, but here are links for your own reference.

https://www.newspapers.com/search/#query=%22joey+bishop%22+%22help+wanted%22&ymd=1961-11-29 https://www.newspapers.com/search/#ymd=1963-09-14&query=%22joey+bishop%22+%22milton+berle%22&offset=29&oquery=%22joey+bishop%22+%22milton+berle%22+9%2F14%2F63 https://www.newspapers.com/search/#query=%22joey+bishop%22+%22edgar+bergen%22&ymd=1963-11-02 https://www.newspapers.com/search/#query=%22joey+bishop%22+%22andrews%22&ymd=1963-11-16&offset=10 https://www.newspapers.com/search/#query=%22joey+bishop%22+%22two+little+maids%22&ymd=1964-01-11 https://www.newspapers.com/search/#query=%22joey+bishop%22+%22dodgers%22&ymd=1964-03-21 https://www.newspapers.com/search/#query=%22joey+bishop%22+%22toupee%22&ymd=1964-12-20

I will keep re-editing this post until the correct air dates and order are undisputed. 23.242.254.82

I'm afraid you are sorely mistaken. And everyone of your links to Newspaper.com looks more like an advertisement for the company. Feel free to check out each of these independent sources to see that I'm am correct in my order listing of episodes. I will continue to correct any mistake made to this Joey Bishop Episode page.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054552/episodes?season=3&ref_=tt_eps_sn_3

http://tviv.org/The_Joey_Bishop_Show_(1961)/Season_Three

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=The+Joey+Bishop+Show+Season+3&npsic=0&ved=2ahUKEwiV0tm83JzpAhVQV80KHYTOB7AQ1i8wLHoECBwQKw

http://ctva.biz/US/Comedy/JoeyBishopShow_03_(1963-64).htm

https://play.google.com/store/tv/show/The_Joey_Bishop_Show?cdid=tvseason-88623EB95D530E1ESE&gdid=tvepisode-3CE99FF3ACA76F03EP&id=C2380D41CCD34A77SH&hl=en_US

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/rf-watch-online/tv-shows/the-joey-bishop-show/season-3/episode-10

https://therokuchannel.roku.com/details/d67e6ef59e2c5b5e9254d7043efa397e/the-joey-bishop-show/season-3

https://next-episode.net/the-joey-bishop-show/season-3

https://www.thetvdb.com/series/the-joey-bishop-show/seasons/official/3

http://epguides.com/JoeyBishopShow/

https://simkl.com/tv/2569/the-joey-bishop-show/season-3/episode-23/

https://www.playpilot.com/uk/show/the-joey-bishop-show-1961/season-3/ --Entercontainment (talk) 13:02, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Here are 4 more sites that corroborate my order for season 3. Do I need to keep going?

https://tvlistings.gracenote.com/overview-affiliates.html?programSeriesId=SH00222901&tmsId=EP002229010014&from=ssl&aid=antennatv

https://www.primevideo.com/detail/0O72KWEYRQQ5Y7PPMA4ODU76NR/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s3

https://sharetv.com/shows/the_joey_bishop_show_1961/episodes/567875

https://tv.apple.com/ca/season/season-3/umc.cmc.69lzl1ai9wtk8pmjl2of31642?showId=umc.cmc.6760yo9uacmi89jc86m3ekudn --Entercontainment (talk) 18:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

1 more:

http://www.tvtango.com/listings/1963/09/21Entercontainment (talk) 19:35, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Please look at this link: Season 3 (NBC) (1963-64) (color) Episode Guide compiled by The Classic TV Archive with contributions by: Tom Alger, Rina Fox, Robert Leszczak, Martin Gostanian references: TV Guide /  Library of Congress (telnet://locis.loc.gov) Internet Movie Database (http://us.imdb.com) UCLA Film and Television Archive / Writers Guild of America (wga)

http://ctva.biz/US/Comedy/JoeyBishopShow_03_(1963-64).htm--Entercontainment (talk) 19:45, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Once again, your link is inaccurate.

Here's a dropbox folder where I have clipped three different newspaper listings for each of the seven airdate changes that I've made to the episode guide. Look at them and verify the dates. This is a PRIMARY source that confirms when these episodes were broadcast, unlike unsourced online episode guides that simply repeat inaccuracies.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/leiz62jgvj3wtz0/AABcfVUslKHXzSG8V-A3fHEca?dl=0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.242.254.82 (talk) 20:28, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Your Drop Box pictures are quite interesting. But, how is it that no-one, and I mean no-one else anywhere has the schedule the way you do? The DVD was released with the schedule that all other sites have. Antenna TV and Amazon Prime all run the series in that order. How is it you're the only one? Well, I'll leave this for Wikipedia's Dispute resolution noticeboard to settle. I won't make any changes to the order.--Entercontainment (talk) 14:46, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

I can't answer why all online guides are inaccurate, but I imagine that an incorrect source was likely copied over and over and over without verification. I can only tell you for sure that newspaper listings (and I'm sure TV Guide listings) say otherwise, and there are more than three clippings for each date as support. This is not just "me" having a different answer -- this is primary sources having different answers.

My hunch is that, in the case of Season Three in particular, when a few of the episodes were remastered for syndication in the 1990s, the versions that were used were from the summer reruns, and thus, episodes were assigned their rerun date as opposed to their original dates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.242.254.82 (talk) 15:41, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough--Entercontainment (talk) 16:09, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

I just wanted to say that if I was overly defensive about the order, it is because when I first visited the Joey Bishop Show listing it was missing countless story summaries, writers and often directors. I put a lot of time into watching the shows and redoing the page. I just wanted it to be correct. I still come back often, as I am doing now, to make additional tweeks. As I said, I will leave your order as is. I think you proved it to be correct. Hopefully the rest of the sites will catch up to your listing order.--Entercontainment (talk) 14:47, 9 May 2020 (UTC)