Talk:List of The Powerpuff Girls episodes/Archive 1

Non-headered comments
You are an unconsiderable bunch! This article is not encyclopedic enough, nor is Wikipedia a library of episodes for animated shows. I shall do what I please with this article. I still don't agree it should stay. This is not an archive of dates of TV episodes, either. If you keep reverting this, I will put this on the VfD again, and/or put A Man In Black for de-adminship. Marcus2 23:24, 15 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Please justify any further removals of information from this article on talk, or, yes, they will be reverted. I don't respond to threats, and you'll find that listing this on AFD again will not get you what you want. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 13:47, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I have given you my reasons. Now I will revert back.  If you revert back, without cause, you will be put you on de-adminship.  VeryVerily, Sam Spade, or even I would make a better admin than you.  Marcus2 21:59, 18 November 2005 (UTC)


 * You asserted that you have the right to remove whatever you want, instead of explaining your reasoning. Please explain why you're removing information if you're going to do so, instead of simply asserting your ability to do so. Unexplained blanking is indistinguishable from vandalism.


 * I'm fairly sure I'm the only other active user watching this page, and despite your threats and bluster, I'm still curious what your reasoning is. You'll find I'm not a big fan of cruft, but neither am I interested in being bullied, particularly with empty threats. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:05, 18 November 2005 (UTC)


 * In addition, some of these dates for when the episodes aired may be wrong. And this is Wikipedia, not TV Tome:  episode summaries are not encyclopedic.  Marcus2 22:05, 18 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, many users disagree about whether Wikipedia is the place for episode, and there's a lot of precedent to the contrary. Personally, I'd rather see a terse list of summaries rather than individual articles for each ep.


 * Which dates are incorrect? They would need to be fixed, not deleted. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:12, 18 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm no particular fan of cruft, as my deletion votes (and deletion log) will attest, but threatening to take someone to the ArbCom for defending cruft is not only laughable, it's pathetic. Marcus2, I would politely request that you cease such talk and get back to the business of creating a free encyclopedia. Blindly attacking users for the views they hold on article inclusion (whether inclusionist or deletionist or AWWDMBJAWGCAWAIFDSPBATDMTDist) will get you nowhere but banned. FCYTravis 22:26, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

"See Me, Feel Me, Gnomey" is not "unaired", at least in the UK. I definitely saw it! I dont know the airing date though, as the UK Cartoon Network seems to show episodes in any order, whenever they can be arsed. To the argument above, there are many other episode lists on wikipedia; theres no reason why this should be an exception. Maybe it could do with expansion, but certainly not just deletion. -- jeffthejiff  ( talk ) 14:41, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
 * It been aired in the UK, but it has not been aired in US. I would fix it, but I can't find the airdate. I went to TV.com and it said the same thing Spongesquid 19:53, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Unaired Episodes
Episodes that are "unaired", means they're "cancelled". --Zachkudrna18@yahoo.com

What the Crap Are You Talking About? Just Because Episode is Unaired Doesn't Mean It's Cancelled and They Ain't Gonna Show It

Banned episodes
How many episodes of this cartoon show were later banned on telvesion? Most shows contain episodes that are later banned on television, because of a huge controversy, such as putting animals somewhere where they're not meant to be, or talking dirty when those words aren't allowed. An episode where somebody either whizzes or stinks their clothes or the bed (if that person is potty-trained) would have to be banned on television because it's controversial, and however, in the episode, Trouble Urinating, there is a scene where Beavis and Butt-Head whizzed their clothes in the waiting room of the doctor's office when the doctor told them not to do it there and told them to stop it, but they forgot. --PJ Pete

Title dispute
"Powerpuff Girls" is an acceptable alternative title for the show, as it is called on the Cablevision TV Guide. Marcus2 18:54, 9 February 2005 (UTC)

Their very logo includes the word "The" and cartoon network.com lists it as The Powerpuff Girls, TV guides are secondary sources, the producing company is a primary source and primary sources are always preferable. Sorry please do not revert the move again. Feel free to continue discussion but I don't understand why you want to use an alternative title over the actual title of the show. If you still have issue with the name take the matter to Requested moves I will stand by a decision from there. Discordance 20:57, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Meet the Beat-Alls
I would like to request an info page on the episode Meet the Beat-Alls. It is a significant episode in that it has numerous Beatles references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.172.165 (talk • contribs)
 * I agree, that episode is fantastic. Maybe there will be articles for episodes in future, but at the moment you can check out other sites for information about it on google. There's already a small mention of the episode in the Powerpuff Girls article. -- jeffth  e  jiff  10:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * To me, no Powerpuff Girls episodes are fantastic. Besides, there are far more important episodes on far more popular shows, including those on SpongeBob SquarePants and The Fairly OddParents.  How did you know about this section, and what gave you the very idea to restore it?  Marcus 19:54, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I saw it in the history. I decided to restore it as it seems a bit impolite to just remove someones comments without explanation, plus I agree with it to some extent. Although I dont really agree with articles for episodes in general. -- jeffth  e  jiff  23:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Episode Plots
Here is my question (innocently and not maliciously stated) Why is there so much discussion regarding whether or not it is appropriate to list Episode plots for PPG? While I understand and can certainly appreciate and respect how a list of plot summaries for each episode may seem less like an encyclopedia and more like a personal website; I also must state that the reason I found Wikipedia was the listing of plot summaries for South Park. And I note that there are plot summaries for the Simpsons, Will & Grace, SpongeBob, even Buffy the Vampire! Therefore, I feel it to be unjust and somewhat ridiculous to choose this particular article to pick to fight over whether episode plots are appropriate. Please advise as to why this article is different. Thanks! TheBextress 00:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC)Thebextress
 * Thank you for mentioning. You could try writing your own summeries but I warn you, there's this prick named treelo who thinks she has all the answers to Powerpuff girls who keeps floating around and deleting useful articles under the same subject for shallow unimportant reasons. Beware. I may not be able to take him down as soon as I thought. You know how school life can be... But you're more than welcomed to wait the next 2 years... —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThegreatWakkorati (talk • contribs) 15:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, that comment was left 16 months ago, why respond to it now? Also, you figured a way to make it about me and mention your silly little grudge way after the issue was finished. Seriously, get over it because it's pathetic to cling to that sort of crap or get some anger management classes at least. You're not called Greg, are you? -- treelo talk 18:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Greg? I'd ask about that one but chances are I totally don't care. btw, how did I not get word of your reply??? But seriously, though.
 * Back to Buisness. We really DO need to get better summaries for these episodes. Wikipedia is supposed to be a place for information. Reading about the episodes is nowhere near like watching them. So something must be done to expand and improve...ThegreatWakkorati (talk) 09:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't ask about that one, I know you're not and he's just some low-level vandal. Define "better" though, these are merely summaries and not intended to be lengthy explanations of everything that happened or a replacement for watching the episodes in question. Thing is, the fans want every detail to be written about here and whilst Wiki is all about information, it's not about every single piece of information, you've got to draw the line someplace. It's not intended to (as others have mentioned) to be a replacement for watching an episode because the summaries are either too "boring" or "short". Expand and improve by all means but it can't be in here and new articles will be needed if you want to expand in a big way. I won't stand in your way, if it sticks then it sticks but it just can't be in this list article. treelo  talk 13:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm no wikipedia historian and wouldn't know any more users that I can count on my hand. At least, not now.
 * That's what I'm saying/typing: The episode despriptions are too short.
 * What this article should have is the short summary that it has now except the title of the episode would be a link to the main wikipedia article of the episode. But if your picturing a large body text just for one article, let me make clear:
 * What the article should include is a short summary of the episode such as a copy and paste of the one that attracted you to that spot. The actual summery itself, should include a summery to the follow up of the main problem, small descriptions of obstacles, and short not of the solution. That would please most people who ask about expanding the episode articles without actually going too into detail about them. Basically what we do is make it like Episodes listing.
 * Just that simply. I would have done it all before but I don't know how to lead articles to ones that I create just yet.
 * I still didn't get word of your reply until manually searching here! What's up???ThegreatWakkorati (talk) 14:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't need to be no historian, just read this talkpage for evidence. I think that if we're going to expand episodes into articles then it can only be very specific articles, can't just use a scattergun approach to what episodes can get articles and which cannot. The issue for me though is that if you might have an issue with being able to justify the article to those who aren't fans, especially if they're fairly short. Fans love their chosen subject and want as much written on it as possible but the truly fanatical sort sometimes get blinded by their ambitions and want a lot more than what Wikipedia will allow. Sure, there should be room for everything but when does it stop being informative to your average reader and become excessive expansion? That's my sticking point, can you justify it to someone who isn't a fan? If so then roll on otherwise I can see problems and I don't want problems for you. As for not getting notified of updates, click on the "watch" tab at the top, that should sort you out. treelo  talk 14:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sigh* You know what? It's obvious you're trying not to embrace/consider the idea. For what reason is probably beyond me. But don't worry about it. I can talk to a certain administrator and see how fast we can get all this done. You can edit what you will. There will be plenty of useless information in the sum of it all. I'm sure the finished result will look great! But we can't waste time discussing it amongst the slums and alleys of wikipedia we call "talkpages". Time to move up.
 * Thanks for the watch tip. It really helps. btw, I wasn't talking about expanding a few select episodes. I was talking about better explaining ALL of them.ThegreatWakkorati (talk) 15:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I am trying to consider what you're doing, I know you figure people are out to get you anytime they mention policy and end up being very abusive but no, I want to help so please don't try and discredit what advice I'm providing. If you can get it done then I'd be willing to discuss it with you and the other member you've got attached to help, no reason we can't discuss things instead of running directly into it. After looking through the exceptionally short summaries I want expansion too, a paragraph at most. I'm thinking that a possible creation of season lists might help a lot in this much like Ed Edd n Eddy have. treelo  talk 16:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Dates
Will Soembody Please Stop Putting Unaired in the US on Episodes 78 and 79 They Have Aired in the US on March 25 2005
 * What do you know? There is no evidence that any new Powerpuff Girls episodes aired after 2004.  The series officially ended in 2004.  You are lying.  They were unaired, as said in the main Powerpuff Girls article.  Marcus2 16:37, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry about that. The episodes aired as promos.  That probably means you got to see bits and pieces of it.  Marcus2 16:47, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Trust Me They Were Not Promos I Was Their I Watched Them and They Were Full Episodes
 * Judging by your langauge, I do not trust you. As I said before, the series ended in 2004, not 2005.  Marcus2 19:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

You're Really Starting to Get on My Nerves Why Are You Such a Knot-it-All? If You Ask Me You Know Nothing About PPG Those Two Episodes Premiered on Fridays If You Don't Beleive Me Tough Because I Know For a Fact Those Were Full Episodes and Were Not By Any Means Promos So if You Keep Putting aired as a promo I'm Going to Keep Deleting It —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blakebs (talk • contribs)


 * There is no particular hard evidence to suggest that either of you are correct (or at least you havent given any), so please dont say you are.


 * Marcus2, it seems that you are attempting to assert control over the article, accusing people of lying, and this is straight after taking the stance that "this article doesnt belong on wikipedia". Please take other peoples thoughts into consideration and dont just revert everything on sight.


 * Blakebs, please don't be rude, and give evidence to support your claims rather than just state that you are correct. Evidence is needed on wikipedia so we can prove that something is right. Please do not keep deleting it, as edit warring will get you nowhere apart from getting banned.


 * Both of you, please assume good faith. Thanks. :) -- jeffth  e  jiff  21:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

You Want Proof? I'll Give You Proof Those Episodes Aired on March 25, 2005 just click here The Powerpuff Girls at TV.com
 * Thanks, that looks good to me. There are full details on the episodes in question, so they couldnt have been promos right? I can find no particular information about them airing as promos on Google. -- jeffth  e  jiff  23:30, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, have you noticed that these episodes have no production number? So I guess they very well could have been promos.  However, I will not think about reverting again until I see your opinion on this.  Marcus 01:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, they could well have been, but i think we should leave it as it is at the moment, as the article doesnt say that they're definitely not promos. Cartoon Network could have shown them in full any time really, as they dont usually stick to a schedule. I know i've definitely seen "See Me, Feel Me, Gnomey" here in the UK for instance. -- jeffth  e  jiff  20:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

WP:LOE
I noticed some one put this page up under "articles to reformat" and then it was taken down by another user. It looks like the page could do with some formatting. There shouldn't be a trivia section on the table, and I don't mean change its title. You my want to check out the standard formatting the WikiProject uses. If you have any questions feel free to ask. Jay32183 20:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe it does. My mistake.  Marcus2 17:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I did a sample on the pilot episodes, let me know what you think. Jay32183 08:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That's pretty good. Marcus2 13:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Super Friends
Some vicious user just redirected the episode Super Friends into this aricle. Argh!! I know that user did something worth vandalizing, whenever that article of that episode was very very important. --PJ Pete
 * I had a discussion with said user when it happened. He directed me to WP:EPISODE. It basically says that articles for individual episodes should consist of more than just an episode summary. In other words, it wasn't vandalism, it was policy. HyperBlossom 07:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, each episode in this article needs a long enough plot, and they also need a screenshot (one per episode ONLY). And, having a very short plot is VERY insufficient and would be less than important. --PJ Pete


 * Screenshots seem to have fallen out of favor for fair use issues; however, expanding the summaries seems to be the order of the day. In which case, I would like to suggest that double episodes be split with a horizontal line, like so.


 * -HyperBlossom 08:21, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with this. It makes things much easier for readers. Umandsf 15:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

He's been doing it for every episode for every show without explanation. Angie Y. 19:49, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I know. Look at his talk page; it's all people griping at him because he never explains himself. His attitude is abysmal, and I'd talk to him about it if I could stand to. The truth is, MOST individual episode articles are little more than summaries. HyperBlossom 23:21, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's just people that are ignorant of policy, and/or people who don't want "their" articles merged. The conflict is inevitable even if I were to fully plot out my entire argument every time. The rest are just discussions that leak over from other articles. I get few legitimate complaints. TTN 23:38, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, if every episode article is being merged in, put in all of what the most important was in each scene of every episode and then, each episode requires a screenshot. If you break this rule, the summary is way too boring. --PJ Pete


 * Actually, screenshots are now banned in episode lists. TTN 00:39, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Which makes sense; they aren't necessary. And you're right on all points; however, I think if you're going to be enforcing policy, you should make known what the policy is; otherwise, people will just think you're vandalizing them. HyperBlossom 05:11, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Expansion and Reformatting Discussion
I've done season 1; how does it look? I also feel some of my longer summaries my need some revising, as they seem a little stilted. HyperBlossom 01:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, they do seem rather odd. Also, since there is no mention in the article about a warning for spoilers, I feel give rather too much away, which is why I used what I found at the Cartoon Network site. It's probably better to use something more official than something you can come up with, since we're striving for a good article. I suggest that if you necessarily have to make up your own summary, try to write it a bit more professional and yield to any official summary. Also, I think if you're going to talk about this, a new section could be made. I was going to undo your contribution because of the above, but I'll see if I warm up to it after a while. Don't be too surprised to see the summaries I contributed back. Umandsf 04:05, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm adding spoiler warnings; the nature of an episode list requires it (especially if we mean to expand it). I am hesitant to copy use "official" summaries for two reasons: 1. the "Do not copy text from other websites without permission. It will be deleted." at the bottom of the editing page; and 2. They rarely sound encyclopedic, as they have a tendancy to read more like promotional material than summaries, or contain overly euphemistic language. (Such as, "Buttercup shows them the real meaning of the word 'crush.' ") I've reworked the three longer summaries; I think they're better. HyperBlossom 06:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

You're right. You're absolutely right. Go ahead and work on your summaries. I'll make sure they stay intact. By the way, the one for the Dynamo episode is incomplete. Umandsf 04:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

ALL EPISODES, PERIOD.
Can you show all episodes of the Powerpuff Girls (and i mean the episodes from The Powerpuff Girls and Demashita! Powerpuff Girls Z) in this article.

Um...why? This article is for "The Powerpuff Girls." If you want PPGZ episode titles, go to that particular show's page. The shows aren't the same, so putting both together would not make sense.

Fair use rationale for Image:PPG Meat Fuzzy Poster.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 16:33, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Missing Episode?
Why is the episode list missing the episode "Something's a Ms. / Slumbering with the Enemy" ?

http://www.tv.com/the-powerpuff-girls/somethings-a-ms.---slumbering-with-the-enemy/episode/73442/summary.html

I was going to add it, but that would involve renumbering all of the episodes after it (this one is 26, last of season 2), and I figured before I did that, I would ask if there was perhaps a reason. Ebhymowitz (talk) 18:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Someone must do that! I will, but later. Now I'm working on the bulgarian list of episodes, and in Bulgaria this episode was aired, too. It's a shame that it's not in the list. --Batman tas (talk) 07:49, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Is Anyone Alive Around Here?
It's strange that out of the hundreds of users on wikipedia, Me and 2 others seem to be the only ones concerned with adding new materials to these episodes list. What's even worse is that those 2 users, (Tabletop and Marcus2) didn't even contribute much. I'm one of a million to dream of the cause but all alone in completing it. What the hell? And why isn't the main leaders of the Cartoonnetwork pages helping? I need answers! ....

Unfortunately I have a lot of adding/editing to do BY MYSELF, and can only get back to the messages (if any) during laggtime in the schedule.ThegreatWakkorati (talk) 18:13, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Style
Most of season one episodes read like a fan site, or like teasers from something you'd see in TV Guide. Some samples:


 * But when Bubbles is in danger, can her two sisters put aside their differences or will Him finally triumph in his quest for destruction?
 * Can they overcome their sneezing and snuffling to save the day?

Whoever did season three, the rest of the article should read in the same style. Very simple:


 * Everyone in the city switches bodies.

Yngvarr (t) (c) 13:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't much like the synopses for many of the eps too, don't like how some season one eps have articles somehow either. Cut them back, same thing for Flapjack's ep list which was only split off due to unnecessary explanation of every single event in episodes. treelo  radda  13:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Who did this?
I removed the last sentence in the 2009 speical, because it is poorly edited, and makes no sence. 76.164.164.173 (talk) 01:52, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

See Me, Feel me, Gnomey
Ok, I just found out that See me, Feel me, Gnomey is a season 5 episode, not the last episode of the whole series. So just try to add that episode to the season 5 section, please.--Daisy13103 (talk) 16:18, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Really? Where did you find it out as "See Me" was billed as the final episode where it did air and it'd be odd for an episode to be held over to the next season seeing as both were aired roughly back to back. treelo  radda  16:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok,you wanna know how I know that? Ok it's with the DVD box with the whole series in it, well, really, I rented it, but, thats how I know!--Daisy13103 (talk) 16:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Right, it's some form of evidence but not a very reliable one seeing as it's probably at the end of that season production wise whereas this list follows the airing of episodes. Hm, even with that, I don't feel comfortable with moving it to the end of season five seeing as it does put itself as the series finale and it wouldn't follow. treelo  radda  18:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you could be right.--Daisy13103 (talk) 18:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

'Twas the fight before christmas?
Was the powerpuff episode "'twas the fight before christmas" really first aired October, I seem to remember watching it as it premiered in December 2003. More investigation needed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryantheincredible (talk • contribs) 16:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)