Talk:List of Totally Spies! characters

Minor one-time villains
I don't think there should be such minor one-time villains listed in the article lihttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_characters_in_Totally_Spies%21&action=edit Edit this pageke Sega Hawkin and Major Snell. If we list them, we'd have to list every villain that has appeared on the show. What do you say?T-borg 10:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. We should really only list recurring Villains like the LAMOS 216.64.16.87 19:06, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I've removed the one-time and commented out some of the two-time characters. Their motivations and such can be described in the episode summaries if need be. -AngusWOOF (talk) 18:07, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Reorganization
Reorganizing character list by association.KyuuA4 19:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Added GLADIS as a character. "She" may not be human, but the sentience is enough to warrant a character description. KyuuA4 19:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Character Data
Can we get a source for all of these heights and weights? Otherwise, I have no choice but to remove them. GrandMasterGalvatron 01:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think the heights and weights have never been revealed in the show. I'm almost sure that they're cruft and should be removed. May the Edit be with you, always. T- borg  (drop me a line)  07:55, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Check it, after a recent chat with the show's creator, we will shortly have said data after all...including last names! I'll add it to the article when it becomes available!GrandMasterGalvatron 17:22, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. Proceed as planned. (just messin' with ya! :))May the Edit be with you, always. T- borg  (drop me a line)  18:02, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This seems to have fallen through...there are legal issues with the "character bible" which was in house development data. However, I will see if the specs on the characters can be released in some other fashion.  I'll keep you all updated.
 * In the meantime, we do know that the girls will be in College for season 5. This is from Katie Griffin as well as David Michel.GrandMasterGalvatron 18:41, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Hold onto the new edits from Nov. 29 and I'm sure need check before they are deleted. Fan clubs and circles actually debate this stuff, and let me get a newsletter or website ready to send as a reliable source. Hold on your hats and check that out, but citations are seriously needed and appreciated. 63.3.14.2 07:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I have doubts on Alex's nationality is Chilean (for some of you don't know, the country is in South America), or Clover got her features from Cameron Diaz or Kelly Ripa, or the nemesis Catlin looks like Felicia of Capcom video game lore. I suppose Dominique may be Alex's evil twin or Mandy is a "poser" tryin to look like Sam. Probably an insider (show writer or storyboard staff, but would this be kept secret to not spoil future episodes?) In my opinion but wish to back it up or get answers, Alex resembles much like Kameo, a video game character for Xbox360...or Hsien Ko from Capcom, or Julie from Tekken 5, but the character is an American Indian guided by fighting spirits. I don't see anything to do with Sam and Alyssa Milano (or Cindy Crawford), the actresses are in their 30s. Hints and clues to the totally spies characters' bio profiles needs more work to do. I don't want a party pooper to spoil the upcoming totally spies movie's secrets. 63.3.14.129 05:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


 * why not..we know Borat isn't real but hails from Kazakhstan and the country's people may took offense to his negative character. If Alex is from Chile, that country is lucky to get world recognition, just like the Kazakh government now has a tourist advertisement campaign to show the world what their land is like. The cartoon movie is a maneuver to get adult fans more into totally spies, not only on the cartoon network for teenagers. - signed by an ANON IP


 * Leave the page alone, don't enter unsourced edits or whatever your fan club chat room says. It's just talk or "oh...I think I know what it is" without any clue what they are talkin about. Go to the Totally spies official web site and find out what the storyboard people are working on. 63.3.14.129 05:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Too bad not enough info. on the spies. No last names, birthdates, height, weight, parents, goals in life, etc. or their age in rank (who's oldest or youngest, or by chance share the same birthday?) I guessed for Sam Simpson, Clover Wayne or Alex Van Ness as "official" names are randomly thought up by a writer, but was rejected by the producers that it made the spies too real for an animated show. Any TS writers come here to read it and get any ideas in TS character development? At least the girls are pretty hot toons :-)63.3.14.129 07:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

hey are Mandy and Brittany like sisters? I don't think any of the spies got bros or sisters. any episodes available to confirm that? I saw nearly all the TS episodes, my fave was "Aliens" from the 1st season. 63.3.14.1 07:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Based on ep. 118-season 5, from the conversation through Alex's X-powder and Martin's U-watch as well as Clover's dialogue at the end of the ep., it appears that Jerry has some sort of relationship (possibly romantic) with MOM from Martin Mystery. Andrea75 (talk) 10:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Alex is younger than Clover, Dont know where Sam is though. Its in the episode "Do you believe in Magic" when they're debating over who should jump first. Clover "Youngest First you go" Alex "No Oldest First you" Justsayingisall —Preceding unsigned comment added by Justsayingisall (talk • contribs) 00:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The youngest/oldest has now been referenced to the episode. I've also removed their full and last names. They are not mentioned in the teletoon profile. Yes, Sam calls herself Samantha Simpson in one episode, but there's no proof that she was using her real name as she was undercover as a reporter. If there are official Totally Spies books that refer to their family names, then they can be added with such sources. Alex's ethnicity would require proof from a similar source. That they reference Charlie's Angels is a given, but specifically to Cameron Diaz or any particular version also requires a source. -AngusWOOF (talk) 18:12, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Alex's nationality
Look, why doesn't someone just contact Marathon an ask them about it so we can end all these speculations? --May the Edit be with you, always. T- borg (drop me a line)  09:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I may e-mail their official web site for "clues" or "hints" on Alex's bio if the writers fought about a random pick nationality (Beverly Hills has many Iranian and Korean residents, but I never understood they have her a South American.) Beverly Hills is where every race as long they got the beaucoup bucks live in those multi-million-dollar homes. On totally spies forums, fans took notice on Sam is the only spy unable to pick up a boyfriend on the series' 108 episodes.

The question is... Sam a lesbian? What the heck is goin on in the hundreds of TS web sites? Marathon might not answer this one, but I believe Sam isn't the "easy" one like Clover, has "dated every single guy in high school". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.14.2 (talk • contribs)

Her nationality is most likely Latino or Spanish217.42.172.168 12:06, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Sam cant be a lesbian remember the episode "Evil Boyfriend"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.35.63.14 (talk) 13:33, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Question
Anyone mind if I asigne this article to the Taskforce? --May the Edit be with you, always. T</b>- borg <sup style="color:orange;">(drop me a line)  10:38, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Go ahead. We don't care. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.3.14.2 (talk) 06:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

sections
Should the section on supporting characters be split into groups? RJFJR 19:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * This was done. Whether it should be shortened or trimmed down is the next to consider. -AngusWOOF (talk) 18:15, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Could it be that Madison is Mandy sister?
You remember Madison, the President daughter. She bears great similarities with Mandy. Their names ar on the same base they have hair color similarities, eyes color similarites and somewhat the same character to some extend.--Freedom Fighter 1988 04:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ummm...No. Mandy doesn't do enough bragging to be the president's daughter.GrandMasterGalvatron 04:34, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
Someone vandalized the information on Britney and Dean, can someone fix it?

If you don't know &/or can't find the info....
...just look at the spies & their mothers & make up the last names based on what you see, besides that it depends on who their father/s is/are.217.42.172.168 11:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Villians
You know, I've always wanted a different page for TS villians (ALL villians) --Dylan Damien 14:31, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Uh, is Alex surposed to be doing a Enemy soldier salute (reverse V sign) in that picture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.109.12 (talk) 20:28, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * IIRC, it was for the number "two".GrandMasterGalvatron (talk) 01:28, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Massive megalo lists = no no
Two things folks. It's great that you guys are eager to contribute, however, we have a few ground rules laid out in order to keep this looking professional.

First off, the Villains section is for recurring villains ONLY. That means, no one time villains, lest we'd have all of Season 1 in here. Even with the recurring villains, we only need list the important ones. All villains listed should have appeared in at least three episodes, or done something extremely noteworthy in their two. An example of the latter would be Dr. Gilee, as he presumably died in his second.

As far as the main characters go, we do NOT need massive lists of every transformation incident in the show. Listing all that data defeats the purpose of actually watching it. Not to mention it looks EXTREMELY tacky. Any such lists found will be immediately done away with.

To be honest, the article is already massive enough as is. Let's try to keep it to the essentials! :)GrandMasterGalvatron (talk) 01:06, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay. But can't we just create another article on TS Villans. It makes the list shorter. Also, I want to add Martin Mystery in the article because he did give significant info about Jerry and M.O.M (they were best friends). Dar book (talk) 07:41, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The villains aren't notable enough in a real world sense to justify an article outside this one. Also, Martin Mystery has his own series of articles, and doesn't need a mention here.GrandMasterGalvatron (talk) 20:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Last names
We say we dont know the spies official last names so why do we have last names written on the character listt and the charcters individule titles? I am going to delete this, if you find a reliable source that states the girls last name then just change it back. Boop-oop-a-doop (talk) 07:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Well in Sam's case most people think it's "Simpson" as a result of "Do You Believe in Magic?" since she said it was for a fake interview and didn't change her first name. Nothing ever proven though as for the others I have no idea. Ztyran (talk) 01:27, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

A new character list layout idea
Based on the List of Naruto characters, new layout of character list page, to be named List of Totally Spies! characters, is under construction. It is located at User:JSH-alive/Sandbox/TS! characters.

I will do my best for the layout. However, I need your help with the content. Therefore, you can improve the sandbox by adding content and gathering sources. -- JSH-alive (talk)(cntrbtns)(mail me) 03:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Merge with List of villains in Totally Spies!
There is no reason for having two separate pages listing Totally Spies! characters; the villain list should be merged here. Neelix (talk) 18:34, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks like the list has been merged. -AngusWOOF (talk) 18:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

GLADIS
Is GLADIS based on Portals GLaDOS? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.251.46.60 (talk) 21:48, 25 June 2011 (UTC)


 * GLADIS was introduced in season 3 in 2004. GlaDOS was part in the Portal game released in 2007.  They do have similarities in that they're female-gendered computer systems with robotic arms and have some attitude. -AngusWOOF (talk) 19:06, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

hi i have a question
it says that len carlson is major sham and some robert guy comedian is diminulitive smalls in the episode the attack of the 50 ft mandy. I think u might have switched the two and I would really like to know. in either case can u pleese write back to me it would mean alot to me.thanks and bye -eliotolivia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eliotolivia (talk • contribs) 18:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

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 * If this is still a concern, please highlight the offending texts. The main characters descriptions have been swept through and properly referenced. -AngusWOOF (talk) 18:18, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Analysis reference
Here's a reference that analyzes the characters in general. -AngusWOOF (talk) 17:38, 8 February 2015 (UTC)


 * https://books.google.com/books?id=Ndpsb86ldA4C&pg=PA400

Samantha and Alexandra claims
There was a cite saying teachers called Sam "Samantha" in "Power Yoga Much?" but I haven't been able to watch it yet to confirm. Would anyone be able to specify roughly how many minutes/seconds in this happens, and if we know the name of the teacher(s?) who say it? This would help put together a better cite.

No reference was given at all for Alex being short for Alexandra, so I've requested a citation for it. Is this possibly OR?

The bit about Sam using 'Simpson' is interesting trivia but not reliably for her real name since she was undercover. People can give their real first name while using fake surnames. Harold Finch (Person of Interest), for example, does this with various bird names nearly every episode he's in the field. 174.92.134.162 (talk) 21:02, 24 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I removed the Alexandra one. It's also not her common name, but yes, the teachers call her Samantha in that episode. It's at the beginning of the episode where she is in gym class. I agree Simpson could be an alias. The description affirms she uses this name in the interview, but there's no last name for any of the main girls or Mandy. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:14, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

please read this thread regarding the names. There's no expansion on last names for any of the main three girls or Mandy. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:30, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


 * "The bit about Sam using 'Simpson' is interesting trivia but not reliably for her real name since she was undercover". I get how you're trying to apply logic to the show but that's just completely bonkers and anything but logical. It's a show about high school girls going undercover as field agents in colorful catsuits and not bothering to cover their faces on their supposedly secret missions (so are they that concerned about being "undercover"? Are they?). And the argument on using Simpson as an alias but Sam as the real name doesn't hold either: if they're that concerned about being "undercover" and the show makes any sensible sense like real life, they wouldn't be using, even, their real first name; the fact that she uses her real first name could be very much evidence that Simpson could be a real name, too. I would agree not to include the names on the basis of "being highly interpretative and difficult to discern as genuine or as a gag", but do make some more convincing arguments than these feeble real-life-logic-applied-to-cartoon things.Fumiko Take (talk) 18:39, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * If Simpson is her real last name, they would have included it in multiple episodes and her website profile, as with Jerry Lewis. It is only brought up in the context of that one undercover episode, whereas Samantha is referred to by her teachers in more than one episode. Alex isn't expanded to be Alexandra. It could be Alexis or Alexa. Same with Mandy. If you have reliable sources showing that it's her official full name, and not fan fiction, then please present that. Perhaps from the comic books or children's books? The current footnote is good enough as it shows that it could be her last name as used by the episode, but does not conclusively prove it.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:47, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


 * "If Simpson is her real last name, they would have included it in multiple episodes and her website profile, as with Jerry Lewis." What? You do know that that none of their last names is mentioned much is simply a matter of course, right? How many main characters on the show are ever known by anything other than their first names? Why would they have the need to mention their last names on more than one occasion, when first names are more than enough to get you acquainted to the main characters? The only characters who ever get the full name or last name treatment are the teachers and the villains. And Alexandra is not what I made up or just randomly found on the fandom wikia, it's what Alex herself did (if that's made up at all) in that episode, which I absolutely clearly cited in case you haven't noticed. Not including those tidbits due to "high interpretativeness" then yes, that's reasonable enough. But forcing arguments to back it up on the basis of "sensible logic applied to insensible cartoon" and flat-out denying the evidence are just ridiculous. A simple "Hey, maybe these things may be plot devices, not that reliable, so we shouldn't include them here" will definitely do.Fumiko Take (talk) 15:26, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I've added back Alexandra as yes, you did provide the episode that has her full name. The last names still need either a regular episode where they aren't using an alias. Jerry is the main example for a character where they state his last name to be Lewis over multiple episodes. If the production crew has notes on last names, that would work too, like with Miraculous Ladybug, the director published a list of the last names for each of the students on the show.   AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:28, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

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Eating food stuff isn't really an airheaded move
Would you please quit being so opinionatedly full of crap? She eats foodstuff that is contaminated (as noted by Clover, "seriously gross") and part of the crime scene and potential evidence (which makes Sam have to stop her on more than one occasion). "Not sourced", that's fine, I haven't had time to find all the episodes where she exhibits this trait (too many scattering across seasons, frankly), almost as a running gag. "Eating food stuff isn't really an airheaded move" is just your bollocks opinion, and that is especially rich from someone who claims to be neutral and not "editorializing".Fumiko Take (talk) 15:13, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It needs to be a more definitive running gag like Alex's driving for it to be notable. You need to re-read WP:SYNTH and WP:FANCRUFT and not list every little trivial detail about the character. If she does have a tendency to eat spoiled food then cite the streak of episodes as such. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:34, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Then why the heck didn't you say that in your edit summary? Are you just being conveniently "conscientious" and editorializing yourself at the same time? Also, the part about "continuity errors" is NOT editorializing. A more comprehensive list of season 6 continuity errors (which is not suitable for mentioning on Wikipedia) can be found here. Although I'd agree it's not too critical to be included.Fumiko Take (talk) 15:47, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have stated stuff about synth and trivia in summaries. Continuity errors and goofs are for sites like Totally Spies Wikia to nitpick. They are dependent on the individual episode writer, so they don't need to be noted unless they are defining for the character (Alex's father) and when it's intentionally going to be a running gag. As for editorializing, please read WP:EDITORIALIZING, and you are welcome to clean up any verbiage in the article that seems to be more your or my personal opinion on the character. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:03, 3 May 2018 (UTC)


 * "Eating food stuff isn't really an airheaded move" No, you did not, regarding the "eating stuff". Do not confuse the two different points, or make it confusing for non-savvy people.Fumiko Take (talk) 16:07, 3 May 2018 (UTC)