Talk:List of Touhou Project characters/Archive 1

First header
Can we get away with images for every character? IIRC, Wikipedia has been cracking down on the excessive use of fair use images as of late- game screenshots are supposed to be for purposes of critical commentary. Even if they don't mind, it might be excessive... I'd say Windows playables only, possibly IN and IaMP playables only, should receive images. -Seventh Holy Scripture 18:01, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * There is this template here: Character-artwork. And ZUN did allow screenshots of his games (except endings) to be used on websites and doujins, so....I think it's fine. To push it a little further if we want to, we can even tag the screenshots as copyrighted free use images, since ZUN gave his permission . _dk 00:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

More specifically, the relevent sections of that page says: Ｑ．攻略ページなどでスナップショットを使用したいのですが もちろんかまいません. 事後でも報告があると喜びます. スナップショットの使用は以下の条件を満たしていればかまいません. １．エンディングなどは駄目です. ２．拡大縮小はかまいませんが、画像の縦横の比率を変えてはいけません. ３．イメージを加工をしたかどうか分からないような加工を施さないで下さい 色味を変更したり、ありもしない敵弾を書き込んだり、スペルカードの文字を変更したりはＮＧです ＊但し、明らかにネタである場合、ネタであると明記すれば大丈夫です ４．画面の一部を切り取ったり、説明文字や矢印を上に重ねたりする事は問題ありません もし、判断がつかない場合は、私の方まで連絡をいただけると返答します

I'll translate that:

Q: I want to use screenshots for my strategy guide page and such Of course I don't mind. Although I'll be happy if you notify me afterwards. I wouldn't mind, provided that the following conditions are met: 1. Ending screenshots are not allowed. 2. I don't care about expansions or reductions, but please keep their ratios the same. 3. Please don't modify the image such that it's not clear that the image had been modified. So changing colours, adding fake bullets onto the image, and changing the names of spell cards are not good. 4. Taking a portion of the screen, or adding text and arrows on the image is no problem. For ambiguous situations, contact me and I should respond.

So, according to #4, we're good. We can bypass the fair use criteria then. _dk 03:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * There are more pictures here: http://www2.odn.ne.jp/aar36070/genso/ssindex.html -Seventh Holy Scripture


 * Now that the free images are done (we'll worry about Koakuma and Daiyousei later, I guess), which fair use images should we use, if any? I was hoping to use them all, but then I don't know how that would go with the copyright paranoia around. With the exception of Tokiko, all of them are main characters of something...so, what do you think?


 * Also, seeing that we're quite done, anything to add before I move this list into article space? _dk 08:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Koakuma and Daiyousei could use sprite images, like LIly White... but no one's bothered to take them for TouhouWiki either; it might not be possible to get a clean shot, since I think they launch into their attacks immediately after appearing. As for the other characters, I don't think it's necessary right now. Images for everyone would be nice, but rather then deal with license issues I'd rather get the article into mainspace, where perhaps someone else will take care of it >_> -Seventh Holy Scripture 09:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * An overzealous editor has gone on an offensive in regard to the images used in this article. Zun has given his permission quite clearly that screen shots are allowed, we don't need to try to bridge the language barrier to get his permission for this singular instance as well. Someone with the power to do so please remedy the situation. - Anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.29.248 (talk) 13:27, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Tried, to no avail. Someone mail ZUN or something. _dk (talk) 14:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Not worth the effort, in my opinion. This was already an extremely streamlined resource on the touhou series to begin with, and I'm not keen on fighting wikipedia's administrators once they get an idea into their heads, despite the flawed arguments it may be based upon. In the future, I'd direct those who want information on the games and their world set to http://pooshlmer.com/touhouwiki/index.php/Touhou_Wiki
 * It has been moved to http://touhou.wikia.com - Mirumoto Ookami (talk) 16:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * This is just another example of wikipedia's heavy handed deletion habits detracting from the resource as a whole. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.29.248 (talk) 00:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I thought Master Spark was originally Yuka's, not Mima's? -Seventh Holy Scripture 10:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Update info about Fuujinroku?
Anybody will update the character section of the Fuujinroku? (KyoriAsh 15:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC))

Group shot?
Since all official ZUN screenshots were deleted, how about we put some group shots on this list? Although ZUN didn't make any himself, he did allow derivatives. And it'd be fair use. Any suggestions? _dk (talk) 21:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Official spellings vs. common usage
Alright, explain to me why the official spellings of names go before the most commonly used spelling when the official spelling is barely ever used. Wouldn't it be better to put the common usage name first, then note that the official spelling is the official spelling in the alternate spellings part? --Strongbad9405 (talk) 06:32, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I am following the style guide here Manual_of_Style_(anime-_and_manga-related_articles), where it says "Use the official English titles for article names and place the transliteration of the Japanese on the first line of the article. If there are multiple official titles, use the one that is best known and that has contributed most to the work's becoming known in the broader English-speaking world. If there is no official title, use the most commonly known name. This applies to series, character articles, and fictional element articles." I believe it applies in this case. The official names ought to be respected. _dk (talk) 06:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Then how about some mention of the most commonly used name being most commonly used? --Strongbad9405 (talk) 07:01, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * For clearcut cases like Syameimaru, sure I guess? Maybe a sentence in the prose like "Aya's last name is most commonly rendered as 'Shameimaru' despite the official games stating otherwise."_dk (talk) 07:18, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * About Fujiwara no Mokou's name... This problem comes from existing several types of romanization of Japanese. To follow Kunrei Shiki (cabinet ordered style), it should be "huzi". To follow Hebon Shiki (Hepburn's style), it should be "fuji". You may suppose that being several romanization styles is odd and nonsystematic. But Japanese pronounciation as "ふ" & "じ" is, in IPA style, [ɸɯ] & [ʑi]. This is similar to "fu"-"hu" or "zi"-"ji", but these are like [fu]-[hu] or [zi]-[ʒi], so there isn't English sounds like Japanese "ふ" or "じ" sound, and old Japanese people considered how they should romanize.
 * I must comment about the current naming scheme. I do not believe that using the "first official name" is a good idea. With regards to names, ZUN is inconsistent. As well, this rule isn't in Manual_of_Style_(anime-_and_manga-related_articles). I see a greater justification for using a common official name than the first official name given.
 * Just as a comment, while this isn't explicitly covered in those guidelines, I find it clear in the history of Touhou that ZUN flip-flops between Hepburn and Kunrei for English romanizations for Japanese names. I find both forms to be correct depending on which style you want to use. Wikipedia suggests using Hepburn, so normally I would want to default to that. Obsolete kana does present a special case. 129.100.221.216 (talk) 21:54, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * What's a common official name? A name that has been commonly used officially or an official name that also happens to be common in the fanbase? If it's the former, then "Sanae Kochiya" is only introduced for the first time in Ten Desires (and still "Sanae Kotiya" in the readme of that game). The latter I just plainly don't agree with, since "Kochiya" was a name that was popular before it even was official, and hence not an official name "that has contributed most to the work's becoming known in the broader English-speaking world" (quoting guidelines above)._dk (talk) 23:16, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * By common, I was referring to the fanbase usage that would agree with that "contributed most" clause (your latter). If that clause is to be interpreted that way, then I concede. Anyhow, I have already outlined my concerns on using the first official English name above, and ZUN's flipflopping. 129.100.221.216 (talk) 20:22, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * In Mokou's case, if she's meant to be a fictional daughter of the real-life Fujiwara no Fuhito, shouldn't her family name be romanized the same way? 24.214.230.66 (talk) 10:34, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Letty
Actually, Akyu does say "To keep it simple, she is a type of Yuki-onna." in Perfect Memento, and the TouhouWiki lists it as her species. -Seventh Holy Scripture (talk) 18:16, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, damn. _dk (talk) 18:43, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

That new screenshot of Reimu and Marisa looks bad.
Seriously. It does.

I say we bring back the PoFV images back. 96.231.55.180 (talk) 02:46, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Futasuna and theme songs
I have some reservations about adding futatsuna (secondary names) and theme songs. Some characters, especially recurring characters, have more than one of them; but more importantly, how does the addition of them help the reader know the characters? The new readers coming here won't know what "Because Princess Inada is scolding me" sounds like, and this page is already gigantic as it is. _dk (talk) 21:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Ten Deries
Well the remaining characters were already there but I think their info needs to be seriously expanded.Blackgaia02 (talk) 15:06, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Character's music theme
The character's themes trust on a fanmade translation rather. I suggest that the Japanese title should be listed together with the romanised version (or whatever the proper rules are for these, which I'm pretty sure isn't the usage of fan translations without even using the original title). Quwanti (talk) 00:59, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Cleanup
I like Touhou a lot, but is listing every single character from the series necessary? I think we need to only list the major characters, while there are dedicated Touhou wikis for the rest. What do you guys think? ChaosAkita (talk) 13:49, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ I think so, too. But I don't have skill of editing about English, can't edit this article. I hope that you edit it.--Starchild1884 (talk) 22:10, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Except for the PC-98 characters and Rin Satsuki, I would say all the characters are notable enough to be here. It is not rare for character lists to list all characters on Wikipedia. _dk (talk) 01:44, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Mmm. However, for example Wriggle Nightbug, would she performed notable actions in THOUHOU works (games, comics, novels, etc.), really? --Starchild1884 (talk) 21:21, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, except that most series don't have so many characters of whom many only have had minor appearances. List of Bleach Characters, for example, hardly lists all the characters in the series like this page does. ChaosAkita (talk) 00:01, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Having never seen Bleach, I can't comment on their list. Touhou doesn't have a main plot though, and the reason for its popularity (other than the pretty danmaku) lies in its characters. Hence each and every one of the Touhou characters after Embodiment of Scarlet Devil (plus some PC-98 ones like Shinki and Mima) have their own fan following (character-only conventions in Japan, even). For a franchise that owes much of its success to the myriad of doujin activities it inspired, we shouldn't fail to focus what doujin focuses on. Speaking of cleanup though, we can remove the theme songs and "aka"s for reasons I mentioned above three years ago. _dk (talk) 03:00, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Fofget about it. I don't feel like you understand the purpose of franchise specific articles here on Wikipedia. If people want to look up Touhou characters, they can go on the Touhou wikis. Meanwhile, I will be revising the article to my heart's content since it seems like nobody else cares. If people want to start an edit war with me, I guess I will have to find someone higher up to comment about it. ChaosAkita (talk) 06:38, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I like your attitude. _dk (talk) 07:10, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Revamp
Currently the characters are organized by the game they were released in. While there's nothing wrong with this originally, as the list gets longer it gets more and more difficult to see actually who belongs in which faction; not to mention that this list just becomes a combination of all character sections in our Touhou game articles (ie. it is redundant). I propose that we rearrange the characters and group them by their factions, how does that sound? _dk (talk) 03:22, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't that be a little too in universe?--  十  八  03:48, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * When compared to the current arrangement, perhaps. However, this is in line with other lists of characters. _dk (talk) 06:03, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * For a first-time reader, I doubt they would understand what a "faction" is in Touhou; in fact, I'm not even sure what you mean by that. You don't mean dividing them up by "Scarlet Devil Mansion", "Lunarian", "Moriya Shrine", etc. right? Because then it would basically be what we have now except much more compartmentalized. Do you mean dividing them up by species? I doubt it, though, since having Sakuya in a section apart from Remilia and Flandre wouldn't make much sense from an in-universe perspective. If so, then I guess it could work, albeit certain sections would be far larger or far shorter than others.--  十  八  07:21, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * By faction I mean split them by location and association, somewhat like your first guess more like a combination of both your guesses. For example, except for Reimu and Marisa who would still be classed as "Main characters", we can have "Human Village" containing Keine, Akyu, Kosuzu, Sekibanki; "Forest of Magic" containing Alice, Rinnosuke, and the Three Fairies; "Youkai Mountain" can include the Moriya Shrine, the MoF crew, the tengu, etc. This way we can even add short blurbs on these locations/factions beneath each section heading, and not just list their location as "Eientei" without clarifying what that is like we have now, which is bordering on trivia. _dk (talk) 08:42, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm open to that suggestion, it seems like a nice idea. I too think that this page, as it currently stands, has quite a bit of redundancy (by doing it by each game, we're essentially having section links to "Hakurei Reimu" in each game section). I'd like to know what more people think about it first though. --  李博杰  &#124; —Talk contribs email 12:04, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

I've got a rough rearrangement up at my user page so you guys can see what I mean. The groupings can be further discussed, but this is the general structure. _dk (talk) 19:28, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Within each subsection, do we want the characters in the order that they appear (in official games and print), or in alphabetical order? What is the ordering that you're currently using in your namespace draft? --  李博杰  &#124; —Talk contribs email 05:01, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * By significance - like main (playable) characters first, then the major characters (Ladies of the households, etc.), then the small fry by order of appearance. I realize this may sound a bit arbitrary, and I'm open to other orderings. _dk (talk) 05:06, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * There might be an issue with ordering by significance, though. Different people might consider the significance of various characters differently, and I'm afraid that in the future we might have ultra-zealous fans of so-and-so character making edit wars over the ordering. It's not that I'm against your idea - I think it's a valid idea - but I do think that it opens the possibility for rabid fans to make troubles. --  李博杰  &#124; —Talk contribs email 03:45, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Disagree Mmm. I don't understand most of English, but I discovered many problems. I don't agree to this revamp.
 * In particular, please don't confuse official settings with fan-works settings. I think that persons of the English zone are not avoided confusing fan-works settings with official settings. However, in Wikipedia, It is prohibited. If there is not the opportunity when you touch an official works, I think that you should not remodel the article forcibly.
 * For example, Sunny, Lunar and Star doesn't live in Magic forest after "Strange and Bright Nature Deity" episode 25. They emigrated in tree in precincts of Hakurei shrine afterwards. Also Suika and Yugi have same problem. "Yakumo family" is not official setting. Medicine don't have official setteing to live in Eientei. And so on. --Starchild1884 (talk) 23:22, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Like I said, this is a rudimentary model just to show the general structure, and the groupings can be further discussed. I happen to have bought all of the official artbooks except for Seasonal Dream Vision (東方紫香花), and have no trouble reading Japanese. I understand English is not your first language and you may not have intended to have worded so strongly, but I do not appreciate the implied insinuation that I based this revamp on doujin understanding and ignorant of the official works. However, as you bring up (and I have encountered this during my revamp), there are nuances about certain characters that throw a wrench in the grouping plans, let me respond to your specific concerns and list some more:


 * For Sunny, Lunar and Star, this is easily solved by putting them into their own group, since I am suggesting to group by faction (and not location).
 * For the oni (who originally were from the Mountain but moved afterwards), we obviously want to group Suika and Yuugi together, but grouping them under any location, as you have mentioned, will be problematic. I will move them out of the Youkai Mountain section. In particular, Yugi can be grouped under both oni and the subterranean. Do we want to just put her under one? What I have now is to have her under the oni section, while adding a pipe link to the oni section under the Subterranean section.
 * "Yakumo family" is not a setting, but the three of them are obviously related and should be grouped together since the shikigami setting is official. Remember I am not grouping by location and so the "Yakumo family" (八雲家) does not refer to a location, but a master-shikigami-shikigami hierachy. If the name "Yakumo family" is problematic (I am not sure the term is used officially), then we can use "Yukari and her underlings" or something to that effect.
 * I have acted on these so please come back to see if this is an improvement. The core motivation behind this revamp attempt is to reduce redundancy among whole family of Touhou articles and redundancy within this article itself. _dk (talk) 02:28, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Would Yakumo household be a better wording? After all, 家 can have various connotations, and "household" seems like a better match than "family" in our case. --  李博杰  &#124; —Talk contribs email 03:41, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I am sorry. I do not have any malice against you. Please forgive the lack of my English.
 * ┗ ごめんなさい. 私は、貴方に対して悪意は持っていません. 私の英語力の不足を許してください.
 * I think the special classification that you made to be incomprehensible for a reader.I think that a method to divide into every work (in other words a current article) is better than that place.
 * ┗ 私は、貴方の作った特殊な分類は、読者にとって分かりにくいと思います. 作品ごとに分ける方法（つまり、現在の記事）の方が、それより良いと思います.
 * The classification that you performed should have been originally carried out in article "en:Gensokyo". However, the article "Gensokyo" is deleted as "A huge heap of plot and insignificant trivia".
 * ┗ 本来であれば、貴方が行なった分類は、記事「ja:幻想郷」で行なわれるべきでした. しかし、記事「幻想郷」は「A huge heap of plot and insignificant trivia」として削除されています. --Starchild1884 (talk) 21:06, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * ご心配なく. Please excuse me for only replying in English. You bring up good points, although en:Gensokyo was deleted for more complicated reasons than the last sentence you quoted. My point is that the current method to divide the characters by work is replicated in the Touhou games articles except for the PC-98 games (eg. see Mountain of Faith, Imperishable Night, etc.), and it is more useful to use another sort of classification here in my opinion. The standard way that the English Wikipedia seems to favour (see for example the featured list List of Naruto characters) is to divide characters into main characters (protagonists), antagonists, and supporting characters. But this does not work for Touhou Project, since Touhou characters don't have such clear plot roles. But I think my draft is a step in the right direction, and all we'll need to do from here is to add more real world sections like "Creation and conception", "Reception", and "Merchandise". _dk (talk) 03:30, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I do not agree with actively. However I do not know the convention for editing in enwiki. To people who are editing the enwiki regularly, I will leave the judgment of the appropriate state of this article.
 * ┗ 私は、積極的には賛成しません. しかしながら私は、enwikiでの編集についての慣例を知りません. 私は、普段から enwiki を編集している人々に、この記事の相応しい状態の判断を任せます. --Starchild1884 (talk) 21:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I've decided against this certain revamp and put it on hold right now. There is too much original research and in-universe stuff in this attempt and the result isn't very satisfactorily clean (Yuka would get lumped with very minor characters, ambiguities with Keine, Medicine, etc.) that makes the revamp more trouble than it is worth. I am still open for other ways to reorganize the characters, but I can't think of another way that's fair and real-world. (Alphabetically doesn't really work either since it puts Akyuu first and sticks Reimu in the middle.) _dk (talk) 08:56, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Dividing them by species may be viable.--  十  八  09:56, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Then, depending on the implementation, we'd either have a very big youkai section or many small youkai sections sorted by species ("yosuzuna", "were-hakutaku", "karakasa", etc.), plus one for "unspecified youkai". Or do you have another implementation in mind? _dk (talk) 11:24, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I see your point. The only two species that have a lot of entries are human and youkai, whereas everything else is pretty much a subset of youkai, and it's not like there are a lot of vampires, tengu or oni, among others.--  十  八  20:41, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Being Obsessive about the TOC
I have just adjusted down the levels of those "non-main" releases (those "standard" STG ##.0 versions ), so that the TOC would present in exact follow of the ## numbers, from 1 to 14.
 * If any of you guys really don't like it, fine, just revert my edits. Thank you. :P --- SzMithrandir (talk) 14:34, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

OK, so I just updated the 3rd-level titles. Please me if you want to discuss. -- SzMithrandir (talk) 00:09, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Chen's real species.
Chen is not a bakeneko, she's a nekomata. --175.193.166.56 (talk) 10:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * ZUN says otherwise (PCB omake.txt):

２面のボス、山に棲む化け猫に憑く式神 _dk (talk) 11:00, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

A few suggestions
I thinking of making pages for the characters Reimu Hakurei and Marisa Kirisame. Also, I think of the Reimu and Marisa in UFO screenshots to be cropped to their character design. RainPearl (talk) 03:25, 1 June 2016 (UTC)


 * UPDATE:
 * I cropped the images with GIMP.

RainPearl (talk) 04:08, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Files for discussion/2016 June 13
File:Reimu UFO.jpg and File:Marisa UFO.jpg have been nominated for deletion at Files for discussion/2016 June 13.--  十  八  21:38, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I guess if these images are deleted, we can use the character selection screen from one of the fighting games. _dk (talk) 23:30, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Not so fast! If you look at the pictures of Samus her picture is not taken from a character selection screen. We can upload transparent images of the two characters. --RainPearl (talk) 10:27, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Midbosses
I added the PC-98 nameless midbosses, since nameless Windows midbosses like Daiyousei and Koakuma were added. If there is a problem, feel free to delete the sections I made for them.

Dangronples (talk) 11:05, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Organizing and revising the page
User Sakura Cartelet wanted me to explain why I re-did the whole page. I will explain it as in depth as I can. If you all disagree, then I obviously won't fight about it.

1. The whole thing is entirely in-universe. It explains things that could be easily found on the Touhou wiki. Why should we add their abilities, residence, and species if Wikipedia keeps information from large sources limited? It was clearly stated in one of the very early edits on this page (if I recall correctly, 2009 or 2010), that somebody deleted a bunch of useless information and said "keep it to Touhou wiki." It stayed that way. Since then, the page has obvious changes. If you don't believe me, go look through the page history for yourself.

2. This page would be okay with the mass amount of unnecessary information (and again, it can all be found explained in way more depth on Touhou wiki, so it's useless to put it here), but let's take a moment to consider there's 120+ characters. It is very disorganized to have that much information for this many characters. This would only be a matter of opinion, if all the facts were about Touhou Project and not the characters themselves. If somebody wants to write a detailed explanation of what happens in the Touhou Project media, go to the pages for such (games and print works).

3. The kanji for the Highly Responsive to Prayers cast were all unofficial (except Mima, since her kanji was revealed in Story of Eastern Wonderland). I removed them because this is not official. You may be thinking why I haven't bothered with Daiyousei and Koakuma. ZUN referrenced their "names" as "big fairy" and "little devil," and even if we don't know for sure that he used their names or what they are, it is still relevant.

4. I changed alternate spelling to alternatively spelled, and nickname to nicknamed, because of grammar. It also looks neater.

5. I changed Touhou Hisōtensoku to Touhou Hisoutensoku, as this is the name that is used on the music CDs. This may be open to skepticism, so this is not of high importance.

6. Tsukumo Sisters is the name for Benben and Yatsuhashi that is used in Double Dealing Character (Stage EX). Albeit it doesn't have official kanji for the name, I still added it due to the name altogether being official for the two.

I can agree that Touhou 13-15 characters in my revision lack some information, so I agree that more should be added in the future. Otherwise, I think everything else is fine. I feel bad for the people that have to read through a bunch of information that can be easily found on the Touhou wiki, with it being organized on there. As it would be a bad idea to add sub sections to every detail on the character (name, design, origin, backstory), Touhou wiki exists.

Dangronples (talk) 22:46, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * No comment on the fact correction, or the removal of species which admittedly was probably just trivia. However the main problem that I saw when I reverted the edit was some of the characters entries got trimmed down too much. Maybe we could just remove the trivia such as the species and other related information and do a minor trim down on the characters section so that people who view this article could still get a good enough understanding about the characters (not as much as a Touhou wiki obviously). Saku ura Cart elet   Talk 01:57, 18 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree with you, I will begin using the page that I created and adding facts from the original (the current one), so it has sizable information but not too much. If you think I should do something else, then please contact me. Dangronples (talk) 02:28, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree that the list needs a trim to get rid of in-universe trivia. Bear in mind that this page had been redirected to the main Touhou Project article once for precisely this reason (and I have moved much of the character info to the game articles), so any attempt to rebuild this list should add as much real life (or meta) info as possible. The good news is that unlike when this list started (which is like...a decade ago?), there is much Touhou info out there that can pass WP:RS and give us something to work with in regards to the characters' ideation and reception. Out-of-universe things like that are things that Wikipedia can potentially handle better than Touhou Wiki (and I think I'm the person who made that "keep it to Touhou wiki" comment lol) _dk (talk) 04:19, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but versions like this just aren't going to cut it. First of all, all wikilinks were removed from the article, so you have to familiarize yourself with MOS:LINK. Second, what is this "era" business with the Windows games. No where in RSs are these games divided into eras, and we shouldn't be doing so here, not to mention that the headers themselves are formatted improperly. Third, you shouldn't remove all the references in an article unless you are equally prepared to replace them with better references; i.e. don't exchange one poorly referenced OR article for another one; primary references are better than nothing.--  十  八  04:41, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

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Contested deletion
This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because... Really obvious that it is not pure vandalism. Nominator is obviously trolling. --Dark-World25 (talk) 11:51, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Characters with Unofficial Names
There are multiple characters within the Touhou Project series that don't have official names. While most of them are from the PC-98 era, there are a few from more modern Windows games. I was wondering if it should be noted on the character's description if their name is not official. Owen123c (talk) 05:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Images
I recently removed an enormous amount of non-free images off of this article. As was, the article had more non-free content than any other article on the project, and stood directly in conflict with WP:NFLISTS. In this process, I also removed File:Reimu UFO.jpg and File:Marisa UFO.jpg, which are the main protagonists. Twice now there has been an effort to restore those images to this article. This still stands against WP:NFLISTS, as well as the images are wholly unnecessary here as they are already in use on Undefined Fantastic Object. Replicating them here is purely decorative in nature. Further, no argument can be made that reader's understanding is increased since the images are already on the main article. Lastly, both times that these images have been restored, no effort has been made to comply with WP:NFCC #10c which requires a separate, specific fair use rationale for each use of an item. I am removing these images again. If there are people who feel these images somehow comply with WP:NFC and WP:NFCC being on the article, then please discuss so here before attempting to restore them again. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 19:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I have swapped the rationale from UFO to this list, and moved the images here. I think this makes more sense, as the pair of images serves more to show off what the characters look like generally (relatively unchanging between titles) rather than their specific appearances in UFO. — Goszei (talk) 21:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Can we add Miyoi Okunoda?
Shouldn't we add Miyoi? She is one of the major characters in the Lotus Eaters manga, and she even has a ability too. --Sanaekochiya12 (talk) 00:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree she should be on the list. Please, by all means. _dk (talk) 04:25, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I added Miyoi, although there's more info I need to add. --Sanaekochiya12 (talk) 18:34, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Touhou 18
I'm going to add the names of the characters for Touhou 18, but I can't read japanese so I don't have much info besides the names, can somebody help me out with the descriptions? --Sanaekochiya12 (talk) 16:54, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Touhou Gouyoku Ibun
I can't wikipedia for the life of me, could someone fill in a section for this game, particularly Yuuma Toutetsu? Emperortoehoe (talk) 18:12, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Guys like half of the touhou 18 characters have one sentance describing them i would do it myself but i dont know how to putvit into words and im workingvonbthe HSiFS article anyways
Its in the title 2601:245:CE02:2ED0:A49D:ED88:BDDF:FAA4 (talk) 22:24, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

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Mizuchi Miyadeguchi from Foul Detective Satori
Can someone add her to the character list? I don't know much about Wikipedia editing so I'm afraid I'll break something. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.99.199.23 (talk) 19:43, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

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