Talk:List of Trump administration appointees who endorsed Joe Biden

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Hey,, I disagree that this duplicates the main article. These are people appointed by Trump, not simply appointees who worked in the Trump administration. It's a big difference. I'd have no objection to merging it so that readers could find out who, after being appointed by Trump, came out against him, but that's not even a section in the ridiculously long main article. Literally you have to go through the main article one by one to see who was appointed when, then check the individual articles for each of the ones appointed in 2017 to see if they were appointed by Trump or were actually appointed by Obama and didn't take office until after the Trump inauguration. —valereee (talk) 12:17, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Uh List of former Trump administration officials who endorsed Joe Biden is not ridiculously long, but a separate section or notes on those individuals would be fine too! I think the start year on the service dates indicates that too. That article is problematic too though: most of them are people who served for just a few months as holdovers during the Trump administration as career or fixed-term positions but shouldn't necessarily be described as "Trump administration officials". Reywas92Talk 18:28, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The start date doesn't indicate it necessarily -- some of the 2017 starts were appointed by Obama but didn't take office until 2017, and some were only actings -- that is, their boss left and they became acting but weren't Trump appointees. —valereee (talk) 17:35, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I've denoted those appointed by Trump with an asterisk. A duplicate article is just silly. Reywas92Talk 18:20, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , well, I don't think it's silly, I don't think it's duplicative, but I won't edit war over this. —valereee (talk) 18:51, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * These people endorsed Biden once. How the hell is duplicating this twice in two articles not duplicative? It's the same people listed again just as a subset of the first page. Heck, its triply duplicative since most are also at List of Republicans who oppose the Donald Trump 2020 presidential campaign, and quadruply duplicative to List of Joe Biden 2020 presidential campaign endorsements; we shouldn't be redundantly listing the same people in various combinations of who they are. Reywas92Talk 19:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Like I said, I disagree, as I think this smaller list is actually the one that's most important -- these are actual Trump appointees -- but I'm not going to edit war over it. We have a difference of opinion on the value of this information being easily findable rather than something people need to comb through in order to find. IMO the longer the list gets, the less meaningful it is -- the full list of endorsements might as well just be at Every notable democrat in the US, with some notable Republicans, notable Trump administration officials, and notable Trump administration appointees scattered throughout. It's okay. There are few articles I'll roll up my sleeves and fight about when a well-intentioned fellow editor disagrees with me. —valereee (talk) 11:05, 30 October 2020 (UTC)