Talk:List of Ukrainian terms

Removals
The following are dubiously described as "used in the English language": chumak, Drahomanivka, duma, horilka, katsap, kobza(r), lirnyk, polkovnyk, salo (although I do know some Canadian towns where everyone knows exactly what horilka is). Perhaps they should be removed? —Michael Z. 2006-03-31 04:09 Z 


 * Forgive me, but I've removed the words that I've never heard outside the specific context of Ukrainian culture or history. —Michael Z. 2006-03-31 04:27 Z 


 * The real question is: used by whom? People of Ukrainian heritage who were exposed to the words at home, or the wider English-speaking population?  Used in a region (western Canada, for example)?  Or for the whole English-speaking world?  Or is it just a list of Ukrainian words WP has articles for?  There are lists like that for several other languages.  It makes a huge difference.  But I have a strong feeling this will eventually get moved to Wiktionary.  Kevlar67 13:22, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


 * At this point most of the words here are listed in my Canadian Oxford Dictionary, so although some may be regional, they are actual English words which the Oxford editors have found in a sufficient number of English-language publications to be considered part of the English language. I agree that this article would suffer if it became an indiscriminate dump (for example, List of English words of Russian origin certainly only has a minority of English words).  —Michael Z. 2006-04-01 15:43 Z 

Removals reverted. The words are of significant importance as to be included in in wikipedia, hence in English language. We are Wikipedia, not Oxford dictionary and have our own vocabulary. They describe unique features of ukrainian culture. `'mikka (t) 18:35, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


 * That these appear in articles or have their own articles doesn't make them English words. If they are to be included, then I'll change the description.  Look at "list of English words of Russian origin": that article is simply a mis-titled list of Russian words and proper names.  —Michael Z. 2006-04-01 23:52 Z 


 * I've created a companion List of English words of Ukrainian origin. The distinction is significant.  That one is a tidy little list, but is a second article the right way to handle this?  —Michael Z. 2006-04-02 00:27 Z 
 * May be the distinction was significant in your plans, but now it is totally screwed up, and I suggest to merge them back and forget it. `'mikka (t) 08:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)