Talk:List of United States federal judges killed in office

"Killed in office"?
Reading the John Roll section, I wonder whether or not this item should be present in this article. If the killer of John Roll had no idea of who Roll was, actually had another principal target, and Roll's presence of the place was unrelated to his office, then I do not think it is quite correct to say that he was "killed in office". However, this is a matter of definition. JoergenB (talk) 18:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I disagree, if he was in office at the time. Then the term killed in office is appropriate. The ignorance of the murderer is inconsequential.Beefcake6412 (talk) 18:57, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with Beefcake that that portion of the article is fine as is (I know this is a long temporal gap between comments, but I just came upon this page). He was killed it office, regardless of what the killer knew. The question of intent presents a potential problem, however, that could arise in the future. "Killed" is an imprecise word, but certainly suggests a measure of intent. We don't list the thousands of judges who died of natural causes, for example. McDonald's didn't "kill" a judge who died from a heart attack. But what about negligence that leads to death? If a negligent car crash ultimately results in someone's death, would he or she belong on this list? Staxringold talkcontribs 17:29, 9 March 2015 (UTC)