Talk:List of WWE pay-per-view events/Archive 1

AfD - Counting votes is not a debate
None of the actual recommendations seemed to be noticed. May as well be using a bot to tally the votes.--Pro-Lick 01:25, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

WM 23
Since when was the Fleet Center announced as the location of WM 23?? Im gonna remove it till it's proven. --Killswitch Engage 01:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)Killswitch Engage

Armageddon 2007
Since when was the Mellon Arena announced as the location of Armageddon 2007?149.84.32.212 09:48, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen it myself, but several editors claim it's mentioned on the 2007 calender that came with pre-orders of WWE SmackDown vs. RAW 2007. TJ Spyke 23:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Definately no Disember to Dismemeber?
If there isn't great! That means Wrestlemania will be free in Britain! 82.44.161.102 13:33, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't mean that at all. Darrenhusted 16:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

REMOVE ARMAGEDDON FROM PPV TEMPLATE
Can someone remove Armageddon from the WWE ppv template, and place it under "former pay-per-views", i am unable to edit the template. Thank you Tr U cO 93 08  14:12, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

LOCK ARTICLE
ARMAGEDDON IS NOT CONFIMED BY WWE FOR 2007, PEOPLE KEEP ADDING IT, AND SAYING IT WILL BE ON A CERTAIN DATE, NOT RELEASED BY WWE OR THE MELLON ARENA SCHEDULED WWE EVENTS. I AM REQUESTING THAT THIS ARTICLE SHOULD BE PROTECTED UNTIL JANUARY. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME GO TO THE MELLON ARENA WEBPAGE AND CHECK SCHEDULED EVENTS, AND GO UNDER WWE, NOTHING IS UNDER THERE, GO TO WWE'S SCHEDULED EVENTS, YOU WILL NOT SEE ARMAGEDDON IN DECEMBER, BUT THE OTHER PPV'S YOU WILL SEE. Tr U cO 93 08  15:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1)Turn of your caps lock, shouting will not help you convince anyone. 2)It was confirmed by WWE earlier this year, why they no longer list it is odd, but that is NOT confirmation that they cancelled it. Here is the original announcment of the PPV from WWE's own corporate website: . I want to know where the dates from PPV's after WrestleMania 25 came from. TJ Spyke 00:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * TJ is right, we will only know after Survivor Series for sure if there is a December PPV. Darrenhusted 14:26, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

How many total?
What is the grand total of ALL PPV's that WWE has run, as of September 26, 2007? This includes the country exclusive ones.72.24.25.252 02:07, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Including "No Holds Barred: The Match/The Movie" (where they aired the movie, then had a tag team match), 208 as of Unforgiven 2007. So No Mercy will be the 209th PPV from WWE. TJ Spyke 01:23, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Can we list the actual number of the every ppv and that ppv's number in its series (example WM would be #1 ppv overall where WM 23 would be the 23 in the Wrestlemania series) --Cooly123 (talk) 14:28, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Buy rates
Is there an independent source that gives each PPVs total buy rate? I think it'd be a good addition to the templates of each event if you could compare the TV buy rates but I don't know a) how to edit such things on the template and b) any website that gives these statistics. However I would be interested to see them. Anyone else agree? Tony2Times 14:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Only WWE corporate gives buy rates, which are then reported by all other sites. I agree that each PPV article should include the buy rate like films include grosses. Darrenhusted 15:08, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I disagree. The buyrate is generally not-notable (there are exceptions, like how December to Dismember only had 90,000 people ordering it). It used to be included in the infobox, but it was decided a long time ago to take it out. TJ Spyke 23:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's a shame. Is there anywhere reputable that has an archived history of it?Tony2Times 17:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * WWE Corporate does release information of their monthly buyrates every quarter. You can go check there for accurate sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.240.112.203 (talk) 20:08, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

No Way Out 2008
No way out will be in california because since smackdown after no way out will be in san diego and before no way out will be fresno one day before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.133.221.217 (talk) 01:52, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No speculation please. Also, SmackDown is taped 2 days after a PPV, giving them enough time to go elsewhere. TJ Spyke 20:47, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It will be at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas, NV because of a house show in Los Angeles on Saturday and Monday Night RAW from the Honda Center in Anaheim, CA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lakers244805 (talk • contribs) 08:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Still speculation. Besides, that could mean the PPV could be in California.  TJ   Spyke   01:17, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Completion of the upcoming PPV schedule
I can't include a source because it's offline. I bought the recent special issue of WWE Magazine about PPVs and it comes with a calendar of 2008's PPVs. WestJet (talk) 21:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It should (and can) still be sourced. See WP:CITE. Any unsourced material will be removed per WP:V.  TJ   Spyke   21:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

This article is terrible
The "Years Active" tag tells me nothing about the events before the brand extension. Hell, why do we even need a seperate table for the brand extension? I'm about ready to revert this whole thing to an older format. Mshake3 (talk) 22:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Umm thats why the "former PPV's" have their own article, the year just tells you when it was active in WWF/E.-- Tr U cO 93 11 (talk) 15:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Vengeance
This ppv should be put in the defunct ppv list, because it's not lnow as vengeance anymore. (Sorry for my english, i'm from Spain) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.35.138.65 (talk) 14:39, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think it's safe to say Vengeance is gone. 65.189.210.173 (talk) 10:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Something Wrong with Grid
I'm not au fait with Wikifying tables and grids so I don't know what the problem is, but the list of PPVs under brand names messes up if you try and reorder it using name, brand, years etc. Tony2Times (talk) 15:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Move
I'm going to try to move this page to "WWE pay-per-view events" because it is now much more than a list. Rich Guy (talk) 19:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

IMatthew, thanks, I did forget about consensus, but you should have posted here befrore reverting. Rich Guy (talk) 16:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I should not have. The revert did not call for a post here. There was no consensus, so unless one is reached, which will not happen, it should not be moved. This pages is a list. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 16:35, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

This page is more than a list, as it contains a lenghty History section. Until a consensus is reached, I agree that it sould be left here, but I believe that it does belong at WWE Pay-Per-View. Everyone else, please feel free to post your opinions here. Thanks, Rich Guy (talk) 12:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose a move, the page name is accurate. The history and other sections simply put the list in to context. And Matthew acted correctly, there is no need to post on a talk page when reverting a move done without consensus. Darrenhusted (talk) 12:36, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Oppose-it does not matter that their is a lengthy history section, that only makes up about a quarter of the article, what is the rest consisted of? Tables that list former/future/current pay-per-view events produced by World Wrestling Entertainment. Also, citing from WP:EMBED, Most Wikipedia articles should consist of prose, and not just a list of links., thus this article not only lists a list of links, but consists of prose. S R X -- Latino Heat  12:48, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose - It's an obvious list, and differs none from other lists around Wikipedia. --    Me   Holla! 16:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Come on, really? -- Unquestionable Truth -- 22:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I can't argue with that many people. But, what I meant to say to IMatthew was that he should have posted here saying that he reverted it, because I was confused when I saw that the page had gone back to the list. Thanks anyway, Rich Guy (talk) 14:36, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No. You should have posted here before you moved it in the first place.  --    Me   Holla! 23:03, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

There is only one reference source for upcoming PPVs...
... and it is WWE's PPV page. If is is not here, then it should not be on this page. Darrenhusted (talk) 12:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Total bullshit. Besides the fact your link doesn't tell us anything about the upcoming schedule, WWE's 2009 calendar magazine has the dates, cities, and venues of all but one event. Mshake3 (talk) 02:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It does down the right side, and if you click on the "Live Events" tab. But my post was more a response to the constant false information being added. Darrenhusted (talk) 12:53, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Except your last reversal removed accurate information. Mshake3 (talk) 17:51, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Article protected
Per a request by at WP:RFPP, I've protected this article for 3 days as a result of a RS dispute. Please let me know if an agreement is reached before then, so the article can be unprotected. Thanks, Peter Symonds ( talk ) 07:52, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Extreme Rules
WWE One Night Stand has officially been renamed to Extreme Rules so it needs to be changed on this page, if you need proof it's listed on WWE.com as Extreme Rules afkatk (talk) 15:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You see we are waiting until the tickets go on sale. Darrenhusted (talk) 16:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, since we don't know for sure if it's re-named. We need some solid proof.  TJ   Spyke   20:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It's listed on the wwe website's ppv schedule as extreme rules...what more solid proof do you need?--69.181.44.217 (talk) 19:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not solid proof, the sidebar also has the wrong names for WrestleMania and GAB. Until something is officially announced (like when tickets go on sale), we will stick with what the reliable sources say (like the official WWE 2009 PPV calendar).  TJ   Spyke   20:03, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * For more info, see WT:PW. Thanks,  Genius  101 Guestbook  14:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

One Night Stand
I think I understand why it was taken off of the former event list, but let me make sure. Even though the name has been changed, the question is whether or not the new name will carry the same "legacy" as One Night Stand (ie all matches have some sort of gimmick). If the event under the new name carries the same legacy, then it isn't considered a "former event," but if the new event does not carry the same legacy, THEN it is considered a "former event." Do I have it right? Just trying to be a team player. After it was changed, I went back and realized that Vengeance isn't on there so I figured that this was why One Night Stand was removed.Wwehurricane1 (talk) 02:26, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * In a way yes. Right now, we aren't sure whether One Night Stand is the new 'Extreme Rules' pay-per-view event or a new name for One Night Stand. So its best to wait for an official confirmation. Vengeance isn't listed there because it is the same event as WWE Night of Champions.-- <  TRU CO  >   5 0 3 02:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

That's what I thought after I noticed Vengeance wasn't there. Wwehurricane1 (talk) 02:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

One Night Stand (The Re-name)
I saw right from wwe.com that it was re-named Extreme Rules, most likely because of the PG rating WWE is presenting. What happens if WWE announces something like this on their website and doesn't offically advertise it? I think this will happen but I also think you guys are right by waiting. I think I'd wait until you see the tickets go on sale ticker at the bottom to change it, not the promos- That saves time.

-Adam 96.228.108.140 (talk) 02:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * We don't know if it's a new event or is considered part of the One Night Stand line (like how Vengeance became Night of Champions or Taboo Tuesday became Cyber Sunday).  TJ   Spyke   02:25, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Where exactly is the event listed as Extreme Rules on wwe.com?-- Unquestionable Truth -- 06:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Uh, on WWE.com, silly. Sidebar on the right, buddy. Mshake3 (talk) 21:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw it on the sidebar too dude. I think it might be worth putting back in on the article, it lists on all the WWE sidebars. - WWEChristof 217.155.44.243 (talk) 16:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you looked at the side bar lately? Cause all I'm seeing is, well nothing. -- Unquestionable Truth -- 20:46, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean the one that lists "WrestleMania 25"?  TJ   Spyke   17:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Would you STOP mentioning that? First of all, saying the whole thing is invalid because it lists either a shorthand version of the name of an event, or uses roman numerals instead, is a weak excuse. Just because we want to use it as a source for one event, doesn't mean that it has to be the undisputed king source for all other events! The sidebar isn't used to source the WrestleMania name because there are several other, more recent sources that say otherwise. However, there isn't a better, more recent source that says Extreme Rules may not be the name. All previous ONS sources have been deemed out of date (hence the fact it's listed as TBD), so this is the only thing that's left. And considering it's from the company's website, there's no valid reason to not put Extreme Rules in there. Mshake3 (talk) 19:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This may very well go down as one of the silliest edit wars in Wikipedia history. Mainly because editors can't seem to wait for a more formal announcement of a name change. That's the best solution at this point is to wait for WWE to formally announce the name change, either on TV/.Com.-- TRU  CO   21:36, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

The Great American Bash name has been offically changed to "The Bash" it will replace the name but not ppv event date or etc. http://www.wrestlingrevealed.com/forums/showthread.php?p=44452 and other news sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KVillelover (talk • contribs) 02:00, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * A messageboard is not a reliable source.  TJ   Spyke   02:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Previous Names
Is it really necessary to list both "ECW One Night Stand" AND "WWE One Night Stand" as previous names for Extreme Rules? What about having "Vengenace" AND "Vengeance: Night of Champions" for Night of Champions. "Backlash: In Your House" and "Judgment Day: In Your House" are also unnecessary previous names. Wwehurricane1 (talk) 02:24, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I would also like to point out that, while Vengeance: Night of Champions, Backlash: In Your House, and Judgment Day: In Your House are all listed, One Night Stand: Extreme Rules is not.Wwehurricane1 (talk) 02:26, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * First, the first two One Night Stand events were specifically called "ECW One Night Stand". With the 2007 event they just started calling it "One Night Stand". It was NEVER "One Night Stand: Extreme Rules", "Extreme Rules" was just the tagline. As for Vengeance, the 2007 event was "Vengeance: Night of Champions". Not only was this is the logo/poster/DVD, it is what the announcers always refereed to it as. Same thing with Backlash and Judgment Day.  TJ   Spyke   02:39, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

July 2009 pay per view
i know it is only preliminary, but According to an article om pwinsider.com, the july ppv will be held at the sprint center in kansas city, mo. also, one ppv has been dropped. can this be added to the article? here is the article link: http://pwinsider.com/article/42783/wwe-to-raise-ppv-prices-next-year-dropping-one-event.html?p=1  thx!!! --JereMerr 02:06, 7 November 2009 (UTC)--JereMerr 02:06, 7 November 2009 (UTC)--JereMerr 02:06, 7 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremerr (talk • contribs)

Redundant
Isn't the "Chronological List of Active Events" the exact same thing as the "Upcoming pay-per-view schedule?" It's redundant to have both. I propose moving the "Upcoming pay-per-view schedule" up to the top where the "chronological list of active events" is now and leaving it at that. Wwehurricane1 (talk) 22:28, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Where's the Proof of War Games replacing Survivor Series?
I clicked on the reference which took me to a recording of Mr. McMahon having a meeting and talking about finances of the WWE and I listened to the part where a fan called in and asked about Survivor Series and Mr. McMahon saying that the Survivor Series name is going to be changed but nowhere in that recording did I hear Mr. McMahon or anyone in that meeting say that Survivor Series is changing to any pacific name let alone War Games for that matter. Where's the proof? For now, I will delete the War Games name. If proof can be given, then source the proof and put the War Games name back in the article. Gibsonj338 (talk) 16:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Most likly an IP added the name ill take a look. But as of right now the ppv has no released name.-- Steam   Iron  19:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Where's the Proof that the unnamed PPV taking place in November is even taking place on November 21, 2010 and is taking place at American Airlines Arena in Miami, Florida?
Unless there is proof that this unnamed PPV taking place in November is taking Place on November 21, 2010 and is taking place at American Airlines Arena in Miami, Florida and can be sourced, I will delete the date, arena name, and city name. The next time a date, arena name, and city name is listed, there better be a source to prove the date, arena name, and city name is correct. If no source is listed to make the date, arena name, and city name correct, the date, arena name, and city name will be deleted and will keep on getting deleted until there is a source to verify that the date, arena name, and city name is correct. Gibsonj338 (talk) 18:38, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Timeline of all PPV events
I like the idea of having a timeline of all PPV events, but having a timeline of all PPV events and having a list of Formmer pay-per-view events doesn't seem right. I would propose deleting the list of Former pay-per-view events and keeping the timeline of all PPV events, but cleaning up the timeline of all PPV events so that the name of each PPV is inside the boxes and the PPVs that have their own Wikipedia page, be linked to those pages correctly and the PPVs that don't have their own Wikipedia page, either produce a page for that PPV and have the link be correct or don't produce a link to a page that doesn't exist Also, I noticed that some of the information in the time of all PPV events is missing ie. January of 2007, the time of all PPV events only list New Year Revelotion, but at the end of January 2007, there was this PPV called Royal Rumble which isen't listed. Gibsonj338 (talk) 18:56, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

- I was going to delete the list; but wanted to have someone double check to make sure I didn't leave anything out first.

- I made the timeline without checking it at lower resolutions, my fault there. If someone knows how to set word-breaks to expand the size that would be great.

- IMHO It would be best to leave the links without articles as is. It may help in getting people to get to creating articles for them instead of burying everything in lists.

- Royal Rumble was listed; little type-o prevent it from showing it. Fixed now.

- I also wanted to set Red and Blue borders around the brand specific PPVs to get rid of that other list. The template didn't list how to do that and I'm not realy sure if it is. Anyone know?DeathSeeker (talk) 02:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Can somebody who's good with reading German translate the "History" and "See also" sections of the article to English? This is Wikipedia English. And also can someone widen the timeline table rows, terrible and blocking the event names. Kyrios320 (talk) 12:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

This table is extremely messy at lower resolutions. Most of the PPV names cut off. This really needs fixing.  WWE  Socks  07:31, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There is a discussing on going as to wait to do about it.-- Steam   Iron  07:53, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Timetable
It's very messy (or at least on my computer). The full names don't fit in the boxes. Is a timetable really necessary? We have the list of past, present and future PPVs already. Mark handscombe (talk) 21:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Semi protection request?
This article is getting a lot of vandalism recently 86.143.14.95 (talk) 15:08, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Page Redo
This Page needs to be redone with IP's and other users its turning to hell in a hand basket. I think its time we start a discussing as to what needs to fixs this page.-- Steam   Iron  10:55, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Where is the reference for Royal Rumble 2011 taking place in Los Angeles?
No reference included for Royal Rumble 2011 taking place at the Staples Center, which is extremely unlikely since they are already holding Summerslam there four months prior... Joe8609 21:04, 17 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joe8609 (talk • contribs)

Edit request from Foreverinsane, 16 May 2010
Spelling error

In the 'Return to unbranded format', the first word 'Folling' I think should actually be 'Following'

Foreverinsane (talk) 17:07, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Done Thanks, Celestra (talk) 18:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

The Timeline Section
Yeah uh can someone either clean that up or get rid of it cause it straight up looks like ass that a 3 year old facerolled on a keyboard with. -Concerned Wikipedia Patron 98.183.239.5 (talk) 04:04, 20 May 2010 (UTC)