Talk:List of WWE personnel/Archive 10

Ron Simmons
He is in rehab we even said so its not Personal everyone knows if it was personal he wouldnt of told anone Joe ferst (talk) 02:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Source? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 04:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys, listen to this:

If you're wondering where Ron Simmons has been in recent weeks, well, he recently took up WWE's rehab offer.

The former WCW World Heavyweight Champion is currently staying at a rehab center in Atlanta, the same one as Scott Hall and Jake Roberts. Both Hall and Roberts also took WWE up on their rehab offer.

Simmons was last seen on television at the 12/29 RAW taping in Greensboro in a "Happy New Year's" vignette with Jillian Hall.

credit: wrestlingattitude.com

My thoughts and prayers go out to Ron Simmons.

Joe ferst (talk) 21:23, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * WrestlingAttitude is not a reliable source. --Cheers, L  A  X  21:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * If you click next to Simmons name were it is like a link or a note or something it say's that he is in rehab.  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   22:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Im sorry but what rock have you guys been living under? Ron Simmons is in rehab along with Jake The Snake         Go to Snakes Myspace and Scott Hall.....It was on wwe.com and has been on the news and everything how could everyone miss it? It even sais on Ron Simmons page!!! Joe ferst (talk) 19:19, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Brothers of Destruction
I think that The Undertaker and Kane are a tag team, because they're competing as the Brothers of Destruction.I'ts true that they don't wrestle very often, but they are considered a tag team by the wwe. It's not the same case as DX, because when they wrestle they're refered as a one night reunion.

Thanks


 * You are correct in saying that they are a tag team. If you are trying to stay they are an active team, then you are incorrect. They do not tag regularly at all. Undertaker is involved in a main-event feud with Edge, while Kane is not part of any feud at the moment. If they tagged as much as Cade and Murdoch or London and Kendrick, then they would be considered active, but they don't. iMat  thew   20  08  22:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Think if we did that the tag teams we could dig up!! We could put Evolution because they were at the 15 year show with Raw. NO we are not putting them there and FOR THE LOVE OF FRICKEN GOD SIGN YOUR COMMENTS COMMENTS!!!  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   22:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * iMatthew & Steelerfan-94 are correct. The brothers of destruction team up every 6-12 months. They are not an active tag team. -G uf fa s  B or gz   7- 00:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Every one knows he is in rehab it was even on the news!!!!!!! Joe ferst (talk) 15:24, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Everyone knows about who? Why are you posting this under a section about the brothers of destruction? ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 15:25, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Mayweather
He should be added to the Other on air Talent or whatever becuasr he has been on...... Agree or DisagreeJoe ferst (talk) 19:25, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


 * He's not contracted, so he doesn't go into the article. "This is a list of people employed by and/or contracted to World Wrestling Entertainment", as it states at the top of the article. He might be making appearances, but he doesn't have a full-time contract, so no. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 19:55, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with Nici. And who are you to call us hermet's we have been doing wrestling articles A LOT LONGER THAN YOU!! But I do admire your will to help.  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   21:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Steelerfan, please remember to always assume good faith, and no personal attacks. iMat  thew   20  08  21:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

That may be true but he he is getting paid by the wwe all the same he should be lsted as someone whho makes apperences.Joe ferst (talk) 23:18, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Beverly Mullins
What happened to her? Why isn't she on the roster? Was she released from WWE? and on a side note, is beulah really with wwe? she hasn't appeared for 2 yearsBlackFrostFan (talk) 21:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Until there is a reliable source found for the release of Trisa Hayes, then she will still be listed as contracted. Alex  T / C   Guest Book  00:11, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Matt Hardy


'''Up next Matt Hardy made his official in-ring return (I think this was his first match back anyway... the most recent house show report I found saw him only returning to attack MVP, but not competing in a match). His opponent was Kevin Thorn who had a whole new gimmick. His gimmick was basically that he tried outdoing his opponent in every aspect (poses, moves, and whatnot), and expected the same reaction only to get booed. Hardy won, and then gave Matt Striker (who was managing Thorn) a Twist of Fate.'''

Matt Hardy should be removed from the inactive section of the SmackDown! roster. --Bigmackdaddy (talk) 10:07, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * They can't be put on the active roster until they've made their televised returnBlackFrostFan (talk) 14:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * What? I didn't know "wrestling on house shows" means you're "inactive". Lame. Mshake3 (talk) 14:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Jeff Hardy
Due to his suspension, he should be moved to the inactive section of the RAW roster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.137.34 (talk) 16:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


 * He already has been. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 16:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Ric Flair
Prepare to have your minds blown.

In the newest WWE program guide, Ric Flair is not listed as a member of any of the three rosters. The color scheme is simply yellow, as it is for Mr. McMahon.

What shall we do? Mshake3 (talk) 16:44, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


 * This could be a problem do we put him on Raw and Smackdown? I have thaught about this for a while though and it seems that he is on Raw more than the other brands. Or you could take him off all the brands and just put his story line at the bottom with big show and finlay and all of that.  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   18:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


 * http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/ WWE.com states he is on SD!, which where he should remain. Finlay and Hornswoggle also appear on Raw more often but are still listed on the SD! Superstars page, just as Chavo is, despite being champ of another brand. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Let's just leave it like this and avoid discussion until he retires in 2 weeks lol Alex T / C   Guest Book   22:59, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess I agree to I was just trying to be saucey lol.  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   20:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Chris Harris
We should put him on the smacksown inactive list. He made his debute in a dark match at tuesday ecw/Smackdown tapings.Joe ferst (talk) 21:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

No we shouldn't WWE uses dark matches before all their tv tapings to try people out and break them into the locker room of the main roster, until he appears on screen he should remain in the section he's in with a tag "wrestling dark matches" added. Skitzo (talk) 21:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Michael Cole
He is no longer the editor of wwe.com so remove that part about him

source: http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=207442294 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.91.210 (talk) 23:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * In less than 20 minutes, somebody is gonna say, quote: "WrestleZone is not a reliable source". It still is true that he was in fact removed from this position, but until the almighty, and most notably, RELIABLE WWE.com come with an official statement, it never happened. --Kaizer13 (talk) 01:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep that's true :)  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   14:54, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

ECW & FPW
What's the deal with ecw puting on fpw people like James Curtis is he on ECW? it seems like he is on there every other week what's the deal?  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   17:49, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * He's not on the wwe.com roster page, so he's not officially considered part of the roster. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 19:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Jack Korpela
Should Jack Korpela not have his own page and should it not mention that he does the bottom line? AdamAdster95 (talk) 13:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * What?  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   23:43, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Is he notable? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:45, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

He does the bottom line and occasionaly commitates for heat who knows he could be the next jim ross Adam Adster95 (talk) 14:56, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Todd Grisham, Josh Matthews and Steve Romero all have pages and Jack Korpela doesn't i think he should. Adster95 (talk) 15:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * He is not yet notable enough for an article. iMat  thew   20  08  15:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

why not he hosts the bottom line Adster95 (talk) 15:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * This brings me to something, should all of the people on the bottom of the page like Steve Austin, and Big Dick Johnson (You know you can't say that without laughing) have articles because they are notable.  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   15:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The bottom line is not a notable part of the WWE. Lena Yada is an active wrestler, and still not notable for an article yet. Big Dick Johnson has not had any major storylines ever, and is not notable enought. Steve Austin has an article, and is as notable in the wrestling world as George Bush is in the United States. iMat  thew   20  08  15:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Lena Yada does have an article and she doesn't have major storylines and Steve romero has an article and he isn't as well known as jack korpela. Sorry but i strongly believe he deserves an article. Adam Adster95 (talk) 19:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, create the article in your sandbox and have someone check it before it is put in mainspace then. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 19:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * If he is this known and if you create it there is a pretty good chance it will stay. And I see your point iMatthew.  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   23:15, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Jack Kropella does the preview show on Sky Box offiece in the UK --81.99.41.229 (talk) 09:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)Chrispowellathome

candice is injured
she reinjured her calf its should be added —Preceding unsigned comment added by The real rj (talk • contribs) 21:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

wait a minute, it she reinjured her calf, how does it effect the bunnymania match @ WM24 but female wrestlers on different brands? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.181.178.246 (talk) 23:23, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * This will not be mentioned unless there is a reliable source to prove it. –Cheers, L  A  X  23:25, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Correct and please bring the Bunny Mania match somewhere else this is not the place to talk about it :)  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   23:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * WWE.com said she's getting x-rays, no injury has been confirmed, it might just be a sprain. please refrain from putting her on the injured list until it's been confirmed from a reliable source. BlackFrostFan (talk) 23:40, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Milena Roucka
Where's the source that she's appeared at FCW? Is there a website that has the results? cause it says nothing at FCW.com BlackFrostFan (talk) 23:51, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops, sorry about that. I guessed I missed the part about her being on in a match. BlackFrostFan (talk) 23:53, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

The Guerrero Family
Please quit removing Chavo for the "Guerrero Family" stable.

Chavo joined the team when Edge helped him win the ECW Title, and ever since Chavo has been a henchman for Edge the same way Hawkins and Ryder are.

Vickie and the crew went to ECW to make sure Chavo won so she could have 2 World Titles in her "familia", and that Edge had another guy to watch his back.

Remember when they all came together saying they wanted to be "one big happy family"

And WWE.com constantly refers to "The Guerrero Family" in which it is always pointed out that Edge/Chavo/Vickie are all "familia" using the "Guerrero Family" name to refer to the group.

Vjmlhds 16:42 March 21, 2008 (UTC)


 * They are not a stable. They are like Benjamin/Burke, HHH/Michaels, Kane/Taker, DaddyV/Henry, Candice/Maria, Beth/Melina. They are not a stable. Also, you comment shows week-by-week, which is not referred to in wrestling articles. iMat  thew   20  08  16:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

How the hell are they not a stable. The others you mentioned are just alliances, but the Guerrero Family is a stable. Edge is usually accompained by Vickie, Hawkins, and Ryder. Chavo just doesn't always show up because technically he is ECW. - Unknown —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.27.84.60 (talk) 23:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with everything the above IP just stated. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 02:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I do to if they are not a stable what is?  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   14:29, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

They are a stable "Stable, is a group of wrestlers within a promotion who have a common element -- friendships, either real or storyline, a common manager, or a common storyline -- which puts them together as a unit." Vickie Guerrero is their common element. How are they like Benjamin/Burke etc Benjamin and Burke are an alliance and theres only 2 of them to have a stable u must have 3+ people. So They are a stable. Adster95 (talk) 14:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Hulk Hogan
Shoudn't Hulk Hogan be somewhere in this article since he's signed a 20 year contract with WWE?--$$Keeton D.$$ (talk) 21:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Dude, what the hell are you talking about? haha Dahumorist (talk) 21:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * O.K if you are going to just talk about nonsense please do NOT write comments.... I am not refering to the first comment with the user that brought up the subjectI am talking about repling to this, please this IS just stupid!!!  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   14:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

You got that from a Hogan Knows Best episode, and he turned the 20 year contract down and vince gave it to Stone Cold. Meepboy (talk) 23:55, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Florida Championship Wrestling Name Changes for Wrestlers
In recent reports the WWE has changed/tweaked wrestlers names. Some of the new names are Andrew Vein (used to be Vain), Justin ‘Ox’ Rocheleau, Lupe (just Lupe for Lupe Viscara), Greg Jackson (for Plasma), and Jack Gabriel (for Lewington)

http://fcwwrestling.com/main.htm


 * So what do we do? O and allway's sign your comments lol :)  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   17:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Batista
Is it true that WWE is firing Batista?  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   19:22, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Not unless a reliable source is provided. –Cheers, L  A  X  19:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Has any body else seen this?  Sexy  Steeler  Fan   19:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


 * No Bam123456789 (talk) 18:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Ric Flair
Do not remove Ric Flair from this article or add him to the alumni article until it is confirmed that he has left the company at all. Retired =/= fired, and the retirement could be kayfabe so speculation is not wanted. — Κ aiba  03:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Hornswoggle
Hornswoggle is no longer injured, can he be taken off the inactive list?Tkosmach (talk) 10:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Already been done. :) Gavyn Sykes (talk) 14:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Cryme Tyme
On Raw last night Cryme tyme returned so i am going to put there names on theb roster. There also on the wwe roster --80.2.51.210 (talk) 08:45, 1 April 2008 (UTC)chrispowellathome
 * As long as they weren't there just for that one night, it should be fine. -G uf fa s  B or gz   7- 09:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Cherry
Cherry turned face on smackdown 28th march edition teaming with michelle to defeat victoria and maryse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adster95 (talk • contribs) 18:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * And?  Cryme  Tyme  -94   19:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Should it not be put on her article Adster95 (talk) 17:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Is this the talkpage for Cherry's article? No. Your in the wrong place. You should be asking the question here. D.M.N. (talk) 18:23, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry i did but nobody answered Adster95 (talk) 18:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * That happens.  Cryme  Tyme  -94   16:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Well should she be put into the female wrestlers section since she competed in a match this week? -G uf fa s  B or gz   7- 21:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This could be a one-time deal, although I'd personally like to see otherwise because her in-ring talent is pretty good (especially considering SOME on Raw and ECW, jeez). Let's see what happens in the future. --Kaizer13 (talk) 22:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This is a real obscure "aside" but here goes; your last edit said "→Cherry: I gave myself an edit conflict...)" and because of the phrasing and opening I couldn't help but hear "I gave my love a cherry....(that had no stone)".  Very obscure and totally irelevant and something like a synchronicity or ??  Hmmm, might have to try and write a lyric...."I gave myself an edit conflict....that had no sig..."Skookum1 (talk) 22:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Kane now a full fledged ECW guy
Yep http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/superstars/kane/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.23.218.242 (talk) 21:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Got it. XD, they still haven't switched Chavo to ECW. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 21:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I think Chavo is still a SmackDown wrestler despite having been ECW champion. He continues to appear on both thanks to the talent exchange. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.23.218.242 (talk) 21:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Nattie Neidhart
Last Night on SmackDown Nattie Neidhart made her debuet by attacking Cherry and Michelle McCool. Do we add her on or do we need to wait until she is on the wwe roster on wwe.com --80.2.51.108 (talk) 10:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)chrispowellathome


 * Already added MATT 12:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I put her under other talent, she can't be put in female wrestlers until she's had a match. BlackFrostFan (talk) 23:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Rated-R entourage
WWE.com started calling Edge, Chavo Guerrero, Curt Hawkins, Zack Ryder, and Vickie Guerrero the "Rated-R entourage" a few weeks ago. It was also mentioned this week on Smackdown by Zack Ryder before his match with Festus. Should I put it in the article? --sonicKAI (talk) 23:48, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I would wait for right now.  Sexy  Sea  Trout   17:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I would add it its strait from the sourceJoe ferst (talk) 23:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Amy Hening
There's no source that she's been signed, if the person who put it up doesn't put up a source she has to be taken down.BlackFrostFan (talk) 23:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

She is in FCw Traing not Signed though so whats your point?Joe ferst (talk) 00:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Mystery ECW guy
So who was that guy who attacked Kane on ECW? Out of everyone I think he most looks like The Giant Titan Mike Jarvi. Does anyone know for sure? Doppy88 (talk) 02:36, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind guys, it is definitely Justin LaRoche: http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/profiles/j/justin-laroche.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doppy88 (talk • contribs) 02:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Links from ref
Some of the ref's we have for inactive talent don't take you to the article that says it, it just take's you to the mainpage of the website is that right or should it go to the article? the main one right now is "Big Daddy V's".  Sexy  Sea  Squid   20:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I replaced it. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 19:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Vladimir Kozlov and Matt Bentley.
I was just wondering about these two wrestlers. I know that Natalie Neidhart and Kozlov debuted on Smackdown last week, but Kozlov defeated another wrestler in the developmental territory, who is related to Shawn Michaels. I was just curious to know if he is a full fledged member of the Smackdown roster as well or was he just a one-time guest for now. None of the three wrestlers that debuted last week have their profiles up yet. samusek2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.170.101 (talk) 13:55, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * To early to tell right now but I would assume so.  Sexy  Sea  Squid   15:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Bentley is not under WWE contract. I have read, however, that he is receiving a one-week tryout with WWE. It is HIGHLY unlikely that is part of the Smackdown roster. Dahumorist (talk) 17:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Like I said to early to tell...and try reading WP: crystal!  Sexy  Sea  Squid   00:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

He is now a member of smackdown.. http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/vladimirkozlov/   Joe ferst (talk) 17:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I though he would.  Sexy  Sea  Squid   17:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

When did Carlito and Santino Marella start going by Cantino? Proof? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.101.86 (talk) 20:37, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

This is not a forum Adster95 (talk) 15:50, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Big Daddy v
i have put him as he as been asked to lose weight as this is the reason hes inactive we could say that hes inactive due to health issues but that could be a thousend thing we should be more persisted now i my self am a fan of BDV so i'm not doing this to disrespet him but its an enciclpedia so it needs a nurturl point of view if u can think of a better way to put it go ahead but state why hes inactive not just health issues we could put that for rey but we know hes inactive cuz of a torn bysep and we know BDVs inactive due to beeing asked to lose weight KCDavis (talk) 12:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree...do you have a source?  Sexy  Sea  Squid   18:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * 1. KCDavis, you need to learn how to spell, I had some difficulty trying to read some of your writing. 2. Isn't he inactive due to pneumonia? -G uf fa s  B or gz   7- 04:44, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Someone told me that to, I don't know. Do you have a source GuffasBorgz?  Sexy  Sea  Squid   18:02, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Throught the Wm Weekend and a few days before BDV had Phmoniea but WWE has sent BDV home to lose some weight.Joe ferst (talk) 00:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Really? I would like to see a source. – L A  X  00:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Again me to!  Sexy  Sea  Squid   01:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I could find a source, but it probably wouldn't be one that Wikipedia considers a "reliable" source, hence probably useless. Sorry. That was just what I heard. -G uf fa s  B or gz   7- 01:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Chance
when you type in in the search box on wikipedia i have typed in ecw roster and it could not find it would some one who knows how to get it so when the ecw roster is typed in it redirects to the wwe roster page same as for smackdown roster and raw roster i'm not sure if smackdown or raw roster redirects here but i know ecw roster don't KCDavis (talk) 12:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, all those redirects exist. - DrWarpMind (talk) 02:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Cherry
Should Cherry not be moved to female wrestlers because she defeated victoria on smackdown. And it says valet of deuce and domino she isn't their valet anymore. Adster95 (talk) 12:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Thats What io have been Saying...... she is a Female Wrestler Joe ferst (talk) 14:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I would say it's safe to put her there.  Sexy  Sea  Squid   17:36, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Readressing Past Concerns
Ok, this article is in need of help. First of all, let me readdress a past concern: removing Corporate Management/Other Personnel. The title reads, World Wrestling Entertainment roster, which is only to include performers (i.e. professional wrestlers, general managers, referees, commentators, ring announcers, and other on-air talent. Second, I think we should really think about making this list a future Featured List. To do that, we need to source the article, thus not complaints about it looking ugly. Another thing, I bring this up because there are many notes and side notes which need to be sourced, and the article has a citation tag, also because sources on the article are unreliable and this article is a frequent vandal target, I believe if we pitch in, we can all make this a better article. If you would like to comment on how we can achieve this, or if you have comments about what I have addressed, please do so below.21:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)~ S R  S ~

Yeah I agree, I know that there are users that just work on this article, and I agree we should maybe source each wrestler, and I also think we should put if they are a face or heel, like:

Triple H (Paul Levesque) (Face)

Randy Orton (Heel)

who agrees with that?  Sexy  Sea  Squid   18:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

compleatly agree would be helpful 172.142.190.163 (talk) 19:48, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No, that is not important or relevant to the article.~ S R  S ~ 20:07, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

put it to a new vote 172.143.23.113 (talk) 16:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC) Read WP:CONSENSUS. Wikipedia does not run on votes. Besides I'm with ~SRS~. That's trivia, and it's just not important or relevant. This is a list of who is employed by WWE, not whether they are liked/disliked by the viewers in general. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 18:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * But really, the corporate management/other personnel do not belong on this page.~ S R  S ~ 20:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Other concern
In order for the corporate management and other personnel to remain, it has been suggested that the article be renamed to List of current World Wrestling Entertainment employees. To discuss and reach consensus on this, please join the discussion at WP:PW.~ S R  S ~ 23:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

CM PUNK
it says CM Punk can appear on Raw due to the Money in the Bank contract. He can also appear on smackdown so i think that should be added. Adster95 (talk) 18:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

He could appear on smackdown due to the smackdown-ECW talent exchange which is already noted. Jimmy1994 (talk) 21:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree with Jimmy.  Sexy  Sea  Squid   15:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Tyrone Jones???
On FCW.com, for the 4-19 show, they had a Tyrone Jones on the card. Is this supposed to be the Tyrone Evans on the Unassigned Talent list? CrystallixRed (talk) 22:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Definately. Dahumorist (talk) 00:40, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah I would think so.  Sexy  Sea  Squid   00:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Dave Taylor
Is there a specific reason Dave Taylor has been removed from this page? He is still on the [http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown SmackDown! roster page on WWE.com]. -G uf fa s  B or gz   7- 07:18, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Dave Taylor has been released as of April 28 80.177.2.156 (talk) 20:48, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

what happenind
wheres rey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.206.110.55 (talk) 13:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Good question. I've put him back into inactive. Good catch. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 15:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Matt Striker Inactivity?
Why is Matt Striker inactive, didn't he wrestle on SmackDown against Hornswoggle last week? -G uf fa s  B or gz   7- 09:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep. Mshake3 (talk) 15:05, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Bam Neely
^^^^Needs a article right?  Sexy  Sea  Squid   16:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Justin "The Ox" LaRouche a.k.a. Bam Neely may not qualify for his own article just yet, unless we can dig up some background info. I don't know what the criteria are for "deserving an article", and I can't really be bothered to check just now. --Kaizer13 (talk) 16:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Has an article. Justin LaRouche. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 17:13, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Move Page
Hey guys I think that we should move the page to World_Wrestling_Entertainment_Employees. I belive that this will make the page more presentable.Want to know what you guys think.16:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Wrestlers with unknown identities
Okay, how do we deal with wrestler's whose real name is unknown? according to the World Wrestling Council another one of their wrestlers has just signed a developmental contract with WWE and will be moving to FCW shortly. The thing is that in his career he has always wrestled as "Black Pain", one of those "mistery characters" that wear a mask, and since his work in the company has been mostly in the midcard I can't find any report listing his real name. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  16:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Just list him as Black Pain until more information arises. Dahumorist (talk) 19:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Stop changing name of article

 * Cross discussion here

Here guys can we just all agree on a name for this article because im sick of it being changed. Adster95 (talk) 18:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes and consensus at WT:PW was to not include the name "List of..." in all the lists that are apart of the project, which fits the original name change of Current World Wrestling Entertainment employees. This is also being discussed at WT:PW, here.-- ~    S    R    S    ~   20:19, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Armando Estrada
I know this aint really that important but since youre supposed to be following the rules of kayfabe shouldnt Armando Estrada be listed under unassigned talent with a description out to the side saying appearing on ECW without a (kayfabe) contract. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.91.84.175 (talk) 17:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Torrie Wilson
How come she has been removed from the page depsite being out on an injury and still being active on the roster segment and diva page on the WWE website? She's not on the alumni page either, so I guess she hasn't parted ways with WWE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.43.77 (talk) 14:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * She's listed in Other Personal. iMat  thew   20  08  14:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * he needs to be in inactive talent not other personal.  Vote 4  Pedro  17:40, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, she is in other personnel, because she has been advised not to wrestle anymore, so she is doing promotional work alongside Ric Flair, but she will not return as an active diva to any brand.-- ~    S    R    S    ~   17:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That has been verified on Wrestling News sites. Gamloverks (talk) 16:17, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but she is released now. ~   S  R  S   ~   21:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Rey (Important)
i found this website you may say its an unrelible source but all its stories are true they say rey will return in june heres the website http://wrestlingtruth.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1209488538&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3& 172.141.66.93 (talk) 21:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

When he comes back for real, we'll add a source. SimonK  S  K   15:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

J.R
Jim Ross is not a play by play comentator, he is a proper comentator, he was removed for one match because some other loser was having a sook but thats one match in how long? or is there a reason behind you sying this?-- The Great   One   10:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Kane & C.M. Punk
They are on the roster as a tag team do they tag up enough to be considered one?  Vote 4  Pedro  18:18, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd say yes for now, they have tagged a fair amount of matches, and are competing for the titles at JD. King   iMat  thew   20  08  18:19, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * O, I didn't know that yeah they should definately be on there my bad lol.  Vote 4  Pedro  18:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Me neither. If they win the tag titles at JD, then yes of course they will. But Kane and Punk are also on side feuds (one-on-one) so not to much of a team at the moment. -- ~ S  R  X  ~  18:32, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's a though one, I think every one know were that storyline is going  #1 Metallica  Fan  Your Hancock 00:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

CM Punk
CM Punk should be noted as being able to appear on all 3 brands due to having Money in the Bank.

That case gives him the right to be on any show, any time so he can cash it in whenever he wants.

Things like that should be explained so it's understood why he can be on a brand that isn't his home brand, just like the SD/ECW talent share.

Vjmlhds May 11, 2008 20:03 (UTC)
 * Well he doesn't appear on Raw that much, and he only appears on SD/ECW, so not really notable that he is able to do so, now if he appeared every week on Raw, that is a different story.-- ~ S  R  X  ~  20:07, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * He has appeared twice on Raw since 'Mania, IRRC. one was the raw directly after, which is quite typical. The other was KoTR which was a special case. I don't think it needs to be mentioned. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Take last year for example, Kennedy (then a Smackdown guy) won the MITB case, and he appeared quite frequently on Raw after that.

And Edge (then a Raw guy) went to Smackdown and beat the Undertaker for the World Title.

My point is that having the case gives you the right to be on all 3 brands because you can cash in any time, anywhere.

Whether or not you always show up is one thing, but having the case gives you the right to, that's the point.

Vjmlhds May 11, 2008 20:16 (UTC)
 * There is no written rule that it gives your those rights. Read the last sentence of the first paragraph, which proves the statement about C.M. Punk to be un-needed. King   iMat  thew   20  08  22:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Money in the Bank means you can go after any title, any time, any place. As Edge showed last year when (as a Raw wrestler) he appeared on Smackdown to beat the Undertaker for the World Title.

As Wiki's own article for MITB states, "the briefcase holder...can appear on any of the 3 shows to allow the case holder the chance to cash in".

WWE has plainly stated that the case holder can pick his own spot at his own time frame to cash in.

Having that case gives CM Punk the specific right to be on Raw whenever he chooses, so he is given the chance to cash in (if he wants to do so). That sets him apart from anybody else who pops up on Raw when it isn't his home brand.

Vjmlhds May 14, 2008 18:42 (UTC)
 * Ok but anytime refers to a "one night only" thing, as he will cash it in one night, and then he will become part of that brand, its not like he will be regularly competing on all three brands, its only a one night only thing (with the exception of SD!/ECW) ~ S  R  X  ~  20:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I never said anything about regularly appearing on Raw, just that he could appear due to holding the MITB case.

We make note of the SD/ECW talent share because it has been made clear that those 2 brands are working together and guys could be on both shows.

All I'm saying is that CM Punk has the right to appear on Raw as well because it's part of the MITB gimmick that he could go to any show, anytime he wants, and cash in.

Vjmlhds May 14, 2008 21:10 (UTC)
 * For one night!, if he has the right to appear on all three brands, why don't I see him "appearing" regularly on Raw? Because, the MiTB is for a one night only appearance, followed by regular appearances after the cash-in. ~ S  R  X  ~  21:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

He doesn't have to be there all the time, having MITB just means he can if he wants to.

Also, just because the ECW and Smackdown guys can go back and forth, it doesn't mean that every guy does it all the time, it just means they can if they want to.

Vjmlhds May 14, 2008 21:21 (UTC)
 * No, the SD!/ECW deal just allows it. It is also to build up feuds, however, the MiTB appears regularly on one show, (exception with SD/ECW), if I remember correctly, when Edge won it in 2005, he never went to SD!. When RVD won it in 2006, he never went to SD!, he remained on Raw, because he made it clear that he wanted to challenge for the WWE Championship, (which is the exception, as it is clear that he wanted to challenge for a Raw-exclusive title). In 2007, Mr.Kennedy appeared on SD! but not on Raw, when he was drafted, he only appeared on Raw, when Edge won it back, he cashed it in on "one night" on SmackDown!. Same thing applies to Punk. ~ S  R  X  ~  21:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

You're wrong SRX, Kennedy appeared on Raw quite a bit when he had the MITB case, getting in Cena's face about being able to cash in anytime, anywhere, and boasting about cashing in at Wrestlemania. In fact it was on Raw where Edge beat Kennedy to win the case, and Edge then cashed it in the next night on Smackdown.

Kennedy got drafted to Raw after he came back from his injury, (which was the reason they took the MITB case from him to start with).

In '05 MITB was Raw exclusive, In '06 it became inter-promotional (RVD had the right to go to SD if he wanted to, he just never did), and in '07 ECW got added to the mix.

Vjmlhds May 14, 2008 21:54 (UTC)
 * Those were exceptions, however, this year there was no source that stated Punk could appear on all three brands, unless I missed it, but if there is one (reliable that is), it can be added, but if there isn't then the note shall not be added. ~ S  R  X  ~  22:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

SRX is indeed incorrect about the MITB siutation and the suggested change should have been made. MaskedSuperAgent (talk) 11:43, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Wrestling GMs
Before we get into an edit war, I have a compromise.

We have a separate category, for guys who wrestle along with another function.

For example:

Occasional Wrestlers

 * Jerry Lawler - Color Commentator
 * Roddy Piper - Makes Special Appearances
 * William Regal - General Manager
 * Ron Simmons - Makes Occasional Appearances

And we put non-wrestling talent in the "Other On-Air Talent" category.

What do you think?

Vjmlhds May 15, 2008 19:50 (UTC)
 * What's wrong with the current format? ~ S  R  X  ~  19:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

There's been some back and forth about whether guys like Regal and Estrada should be put as active wrestlers or other on air talent.

I'm just putting forth a compromise to stop an edit war.

Vjmlhds May 15, 2008 20:02 (UTC)
 * Ok, so that doesn't call for a new format. Adding more contents into the TOC makes the page longer than what it already is. I don't see what's wrong with just putting Occasional wrestler, next to the name under Other On air talent. Now however, if they both wrestler week by week, then general manager needs to be added next 2 the name under active wrestlers. -- ~ S  R  X  ~  20:06, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Like I said, going through the history page, there was a lot of back and forth, so I tried to find middle ground. Not trying to re-invent the wheel.

Vjmlhds May 15, 2008 20:11 (UTC)
 * Its appreciated that you wanted to find some middle ground, but IMO its unnecessary to add it, as this is a pretty long list as it is, and if it exceeds, the page will take forever to buffer. ~ S  R  X  ~  20:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Pay no attention to SRX. I agree that your suggestion makes the page that much more simpler and eliminates any possible confusion so feel free to keep up the good work. SRX isn't God so don't feel as if he's the end all, be all on anything. MaskedSuperAgent (talk) 11:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but assuming bad faith and making near-personal attacks dont make your arguments stronger. I feel the same way SRX does. — Κ aiba  22:18, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

No need for angry outbursts Kaiba. We're all civil people here. Your attitude isn't necessary mate. Mr.Krycek (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I think every body except Masked Super Hero (I hope i got your name right by the way *Sarcasm*) agree's with SRX! <b style="font-family:"Tahoma"> #1 Metallica  Fan </b> Your Hancock 23:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Who's angry? Saying what policy reflects is not an attitude, an angry outburst or incivil as your implying, I suggest you not push the agenda of the indefblocked editor.. — Κ aiba  04:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Agenda? A little paranoid aren't we? Heaven forbid someone disagrees with another user but agrees with another's helpful suggestion. Vjmlhds was right on the money but I suppose we can't let good ideas get in the way of kids running around with imaginary power on this website. (Mr.Krycek (talk) 16:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * We ALLWAY'S listen to ANYBODY that has idea's! And there are just as many adults as kids should I name some? Nikki311, LAX , Think Blue, Carribean HQ, Gavyn Sykes. I could go on for hour's. Beside's we are all established editor's here on Wikipedia no matter our age, it's not our view points It' Wikipedia's! <b style="font-family:"Tahoma"> #1 Metallica  Fan </b> Your Hancock 18:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes Metallica I got your point. You're not to be questioned and you want me to kill myself. It's been noted. Mr.Krycek (talk) 22:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggest Mr. Krycek, to remain civil and assume good-faith in discussions, as for MaskedSuperAgent, no one said I was god. I was simply explaining why the page should not contain any more sections that what it currently has, as this page is long as it is. S  R  X  22:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

You're right SRX. However you should also assume good faith in the additions I made to the Kofi Kingston page. Fair enough is it not? (Mr.Krycek (talk) 02:04, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * All I did was reword your sentence, which is thus, assuming good faith. Please read WP:AGF and WP:BF to distinguish good and bad faith. S R  X  02:07, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

big daddy v
what happend to him hes not been released and i cant find him on this page and every time this page is unlcoked its vanderlisde thanks KCDavis 172.189.235.59 (talk) 15:01, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for noticing, he has been re-added under inactive talent for ECW.-- S R  X  15:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

The reason why Big Daddy V is inactive is because wwe sent him home to loose weight. --80.2.51.38 (talk) 17:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)chrispowellathome

SCSA
austin hasent made a apperiance in iver 6 months it should just say public relations cuz be fair its missleading someone reads this page and think oh ausin is gonna make a guest apperance but he dont and its been like that for 6 months if he makes another apperance then put it back down but we could put rock there as makeing apperances cuz he made one last year and this year around wrestlmania so either add rock or take apperance bit off of steve austin 172.206.253.15 (talk) 12:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

yea good point ill do it KCDavis (talk) 17:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thats what "occasional" means. However, if Austin does not make an appearance in another couple of months, then it will be removed.-- S R  X  17:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)