Talk:List of Wii games/Archive 2

Splinter Cell 4
According to this GameSpot article, the official name of Splinter Cell 4 is Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent. I have changed it accordingly. I mention this only because I tried to make the change before when another source announced it and the change was immediately changed back. enbob89 01:38, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeh the new Game Informer magazine has a preview on it and that is where every site got the official name. Jedi6 17:40, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Legend of Zelda
Should we included The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess? THe game was recently announced to come out near the launch of the Revolution and be playable on both the Gamecube and Revolution. Also the game will use the Revolution control scheme on the Revolution. Nintendo will probably advertize it as a Revolution game too. So should we make a note of that? Jedi6 21:00, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * No. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess is a Nintendo GameCube game. The Revolution is simply compatible with GCN games much like the PlayStation 2 can play PlayStation games. Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ 23:11, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry I meant including a note about the game. I added one. Jedi6 01:32, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Looks good, hopefully anyone intent on changing the entry to Twilight Princess will see it and leave it alone. -- VederJuda 01:46, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Actually, LoZ - TP has been released as both a GC and a Wii game, on two different types of disk. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.19.173.27 (talk • contribs). <!--

Metronome
Though ClubSkill lists Metronome as a Revolution title, the sole article on the site regarding the game states that the platform is currently unknown. For this reason, I have removed the listing. --enbob89 03:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

No End Soon
I removed the entry No End Soon on the basis that its origins point to an extremely shady post on the GameSpot forums. Should links from unknown blogs and forum posts be accepted?--enbob89 01:54, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * No. If we did then the list would be filled with hundreds of fake games.  Just because someone posts, "!!! FINAL FANTASY BONUS MISSION 5 Green version is coming to the NIntendo Revolution!!!!!'''" doesn't  make it true. Jedi6 04:09, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Suda 51 game
The Suda 51 game is the Grasshopper Manufacture game, so please remove the recently added Suda 51 Game that cites IGN. --enbob89 15:52, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Silent Hill 5 not coming to Revolution
Sorry, but that rumor has been debunked.

Orb
In its current state, I don' think we should list Orb. It's not running on Revolution yet, it doesn't have a publisher and the developer doesn't have a history we can reference (as far as I know). But in the event that it finds a publisher and stuff, like NIBRIS did with Raid over the River, then we'll list it.

On a side note, I do think that there should be a category for these such games. --enbob89 04:12, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


 * My current opinion is to leave them in until proved/debunked - the page suggests we use a question mark for rumoured games in the listing. That seems to be enough. I had suggested somewhere else that the page should eventually be split into two sections - one for games released and the other for games in development. Clearly there's little point doing that just yet.HappyVR 14:39, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. --enbob89 01:01, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Trauma Center Revolution
Atus has denied the existence of a Trauma Center game for Revolution. 

IGN has confirmed that this game will be on this console & it will be at e3. IGN Podcast @ 8:50 min The last line of the link you provided says "Sometimes a denial is all we need to confirm our suspicions." As a result, this game should be listed (until e3) as Trauma Center Revolution (?). Lord Falcon 23:17, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

pilotwings not confirmed
it is just a rumor, so it should be removed


 * I don't think it should be removed but I'll add a (?) after it, as it is a rumour. also, it might be worth removing the (N) as, though it's likely to be a Nintendo-made game, that's not been confirmed. Corbo 20:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Red Steel link
I added this link to Red Steel, but then realized that there is only to be one reference per game, so I took it out (on another PC, hence the IP adress change). But, I still wonder whether my link (the official yet uninformative Red Steel site) or the GI link should stay. Your advice?

Vandalism
Thankyou to some immature person adding "Pokemon Group Sex" and "Someone is a fat hairy whatever".

I laughed myself a new one, you are incredibly witty. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.236.168.211 (talk • contribs).

Nintendo Talent Studio
I contacted N-Sider in regard to Nintendo Talent Sudio. It's only speculation. enbob89 23:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

--Is n-sider particularly reliable? I added Duck Hunt 2 with a link, but someone can take it down if the websites up to no good. So long and thanks for all the fish 71.112.43.219 01:36, 21 September 2006 (UTC)τнїѕοḶḍмαġę

Untitled Games?
I'm wondering if there should be two lists - one for games with actual titles and one for games that are untitled and only have a studio/developer attached (i.e.: "Unspecified Activision project"). It makes it more confusing to skim through the list and see "Title" "Title" "Something" "Title" "Something" "Something", etc... Just a thought. 71.244.170.75 17:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Perhaps it would be best to shift untitled games to the end of the list and alphabetize them by developer. Geekrecon 18:37, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I have made the suggested adjustment. I have moved all untitled games to the end of the list. I also put all "unspecified" titles in the same list, as I did not see sufficient distinction between them. — Aielyn 06:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


 * In this case, perhaps "Mario Kart Wii" should be moved to that list as well, as the source doesn't present a working title. -- Exitmoose 03:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

"Unspecified" titles
I think once a company announces a game, their "unspecified" listing should be removed as it is just a placeholder for whatever titles they haven't announced yet. --enbob89 21:57, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I think we ought to wait until E3, and then remove those "Unspecified" listings. In many cases those developers may be making multiple titles. Fro81 22:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Move
Do we move this to List of Nintendo Wii games? --Ryajinor 16:41, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Just from what I've read, it seems Nintendo doesn't want the Wii refered to as the "Nintendo Wii"; but rather simply "Wii". Just wondering if the title of this page should be revised, or if it's better to leave the "Nintendo" in there for those who don't know what Wii is. --Smashery
 * Likewise, is it List of Microsoft Xbox games or List of Xbox games? --Damian Yerrick (☎) 21:38, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It is fine here. Note List of GameCube games. -- ReyBrujo 23:00, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Godzilla?
I think we should delete the "Godzilla" entry, the citation is linked to an N-Sider story from December 31st 1969. Can anyone find another source? proath01 10:30, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

SOme fan siteshave said that it has been confirmed, but no official info. Delete it.

Let's go by Train!
That's translated from Taito's train game series, Densha de Go!. Just thought I add that little fact up there.

I updated the newest link, one which nearly confirms the existence of a Wii version of DMC4.

Need for Speed: Carbon
After http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1&product%5Fid=230022 this.

and IGN talking about it too, I am going to add it, unless anyone has something agaainst it.

Seiferalmas 16:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen 5
After hearing a rumor for the 5th instalment of the Gekitou Ninja Taisen series (also known as Clash of Ninja) for the Wii, I did a search on Google. I got quite a bit of results, but most were non-english sites and message boards so I couldn't confirm anything.

I got this page: http://www.n-planet.com.br/?view=article&article=4401

I would like someone to review this for me. I want to get this title confirmed before I add it to the page. Its possible that this game is the untitled Tomy battle action game — Gamespot planned for the Wii.--SwordKirby537 00:08, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Its actually Gekitou Ninja Taisen Ex. It is confirmed, keep it on the list.

Released games
I would like to see a separate list for alla released games and which region they are released in, for all systems that have these list. Not just a list with rumoured games or upcoming games among them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.226.64.211 (talk • contribs).
 * The system hasn't been released yet, so their aren't any "released games" yet. I don't see the point in listing which region. Unless this is converted to a table format it will just be clutter. 74.137.230.39 15:36, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Of course I know it hasn't been released. But you could prepare the list to show dates of games in multiple regions. It would be cool to have a list for some console where dates weren't lost. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.114.165.176 (talk • contribs).
 * Perhaps if they simply add a few tags to indicate which regions it has been released in, so {J} might mean "Japan only", while {JUA} might mean "Japan, USA, Australia". These tags would only be on released games.Aielyn 06:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Untitled Hideo Kojima Project
The link to the untitled Hideo Kojima project has either been moved or deleted. If someone can't find another site claiming that there is indeed a project being created, then we should probably take the project off of the list. --DevilSavior 22:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * While I am uncertain as to which article was being referred to by that link, I have found a wikipedia article that mentions, with sources, a proposed game to be made by Goichi Suda and Hideo Kojima. You can see this here - Project_'S'. I will modify the article to reflect this by changing "Hideo Kojima Project" to "Project by Hideo Kojima and Goichi Suda", with the source simply being "see Project_'S'". — Aielyn 16:10, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Shrek Smash N Crash
Another Shrek game for Wii planned for December 06. Source: Gamespot

nb: This is a racing game, different from Shrek the Third. Goatjuggler 22:02, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

2 more Wii games
Crash Dummy vs. the Evil D-Troit Source: Gamespot

Gottlieb vs. Williams Source: Gamespot nb: Gamespot doesn't list Gottlieb Pinball Classics, which may be just for PS2/PSP and/or Wii VC. 68.36.108.193 23:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Gottlieb Pinball Classics is a Wii title (not VC) being released in Australia and Europe. This can be confirmed for Europe by looking at Nintendo-Europe's launch lineup list - http://ms.nintendo-europe.com/wii/?site=pr_launchtitles.html&l=enGB — Aielyn 14:02, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

World Series of Poker 2
World Series of Poker: Tournament of Champions AKA: World Series of Poker 2 (US) Source: Gamespot Goatjuggler 00:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

World Series of Poker Link
The World Series of Poker title links to the wikipedia article about the real tournament, not the game. Is this appropriate? I can't find a wikipedia article about the game. I do not feel comfortable making the change myself, so I brought it up for discussion.
 * I've fixed the link. The name of the game is World Series of Poker: Tournament of Champions. TJ Spyke 05:58, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Bob Ross game
Enbob89 removed Bob Ross: The Joy of Painting from the list, claiming that AGFRAG is no longer developing it. However a search of the net provided no confirmation of this fact. As such, I reinstated it in the list.

Indeed, the AGFRAG site, http://www.agfrag.com/, links to the Myspace site, http://www.myspace.com/xhadoe, where the Bob Ross game is still listed as in development.

If it has, indeed, been cancelled, please provide proof of this. — Aielyn 14:11, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The game's official Yahoo Group, through which AGFRAG has made announcements in the past, indicates that "AGFRAG is no longer involved int he development of ANY Bob Ross Game. Please contact Bob Ross Inc. for further information." This information has actually been up for awhile. I believe they had a deadline to find a publisher and they were unable to find one. You may need to be a member of the group (as am I) to view it. On a side note, Joseph Hatcher of AGFRAG says the following in a comment further down on the page which indicates that the game may still happen.


 * "Email Bob Ross Inc. As far as I know, they still plan to get the game developed!


 * Submit your ideas and suggestions to them and they will gladly listen and respond to your questions, etc.


 * For those of you curious about what AGFRAG is up to, go to www.agfrag.com or check out my page at www.myspace.com/xhadoe


 * When Bob Ross Inc. contacts me about taking over this forum (or what they want me to do with it), I will then do whatever they need me to do.


 * We are in slow progress into our next project...


 * -Joseph"


 * I think the Bob Ross listing should be removed until there is another announcement by Bob Ross Inc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Enbob89 (talk • contribs) 01:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Crossbeam Studios
Whoever it is that has been removing the games from Crossbeam Studios, please stop - these games have been confirmed to be in planning for the Wii, which means they belong on the page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aielyn (talk • contribs).

Vandalism
There has been a dramatic increase in the rate of vandalism of this page recently, seemingly due to the Wii's release. Perhaps it is time to restrict the editing of this article to those with accounts, as all vandalism appears to be done by people without accounts. — Aielyn 05:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Pikmin 3
There is already an article on it on Wikipedia. So since we have it, I figured I'd put it on.--Rat235478693--

There was a article on Sonic Riders 2, so let the same happen to Pikmin 3. FullMetal Falcon 01:51, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

--Rat235478683--

Vandalism
Can we please make it so only registered users can edit this page? There's way too much vandalism from unregistered users. --enbob89 04:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Just about every post from an unregistered user is vandalism. Can we restrict editing to registered users?--enbob89 18:48, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Released Games
Currently there is no markings on games which have already been released. This can be valuable for those looking to research games to purchase. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 132.228.195.207 (talk) 13:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC).

NASCAR 07
I have noticed that NASCAR 07 has been added to the list on more than one occasion. It is sourced to a vague IGN article that doesn't specifically state that it will be available for the Wii. I don't think it should be listed on this page. Mearnhardtfan 02:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Mario Kart Wii
http://www.thewiire.com/news/128/1/Mario_Kart_Revolution_in_the_Works

This article cited to prove the existence of "Mario Kart Wii" seems like speculation at best. First of all, it's well over a year old, and there isn't even a working title for the game. I removed the wiki link since the article it links to has been deleted and protected, and I'd say that unless a better source can be found, the game itself should be removed from the list. --Exitmoose 03:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hideki Konno says it's in the pipeline and that warrants a listing labeled with a (?). There's no better source than one of the game's designers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Enbob89 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 11 January 2007 (UTC).


 * I suppose. It doesn't so much sound like the game is being announced as the interviewee is simply saying that they're considering it. In any case, it's probably coming out sometime, so it's nothing to fuss over.  Why was Mario Kart Wii deleted and protected? -- Exitmoose 00:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Mario Kart Wii was deleted and protected because there was no proof the game is in development. It says at the top of the page games CONFIRMED FOR DEVELOPMENT.  Mario Kart Wii does not meet that criteria and should be removed, whether or not it's "nothing to fuss over". 199.126.137.209 04:52, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Prince of Persia
Seriously, you guys. It's a frickin' port of The Two Thrones, so it might as well be called The Two Thrones. I read in Nintendo Power about it, and it was NOT called Rival Swords. Link 486 8:47 AM, 1-11-07
 * Rival Swords is a port of Two Thrones. Read the article. Your Nintendo Power article came before Ubisoft made the official announcement.

Ah, whatever. I'm not gonna do anything to it anymore.

Winning Eleven?
I'm pretty sure Konami canceled this game with a few other games for the Wii/PS3. This is awful news. :( --Tristam 04:36, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Nope. Besides, Winning Eleven wasn't included in the games that were thought to be canceled anyway. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Enbob89 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC).


 * Maybe it should be listed as PES6. After all, the article only talks about PES, not WE, which are technically different games. I guess there will most likely be a WE then, but I think PES should be listed as well. Militiaman 06:26, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I really have no idea. Aren't Pro Evolution Soccer and Winning Eleven the same games with different names for different regions? --enbob89 17:51, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Butterfly Garden
Add Butterfly Garden to the list. JAF1970 16:49, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Fire Emblem
Goddess of Dawn is the game's Japanese name; Nintendo even said so themselves. Until the English name is released, do not address it as Goddess of Dawn. Link 486 @ 8:18 AM on January 31st, 2007.

Titles vs games (article name discussion)
I noticed the article name was changed to titles because Wii Music isn't a game. But when I looked at that article: I see games announced as part of it. Shouldn't the article be changed back due to this? RobJ1981 00:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Sakaguchi developing a Wii IP?
Hironobu Sakaguchi's page states that he is developing a new IP for the Wii (although there is no source). Can anyone confirm or deny this with a source? (It'd be great if it is true :P ). --Tristam 04:27, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Mario kart wii
I deleted this because the source didnt even mention mario kart for the wii. I also added manhunt for the wii. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mattyatty (talk • contribs) 20:04, 6 February 2007 (UTC).

Lucas Arts Project
The source for this untitles game simply states that they will be supporting the system, and does not say that there is a game in development, so should this be removed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mattyatty (talk • contribs) 12:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC).
 * When a publisher says they're supporting a system, it means they're making games for it. --enbob89 21:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It means they wil be making games for it. This is a page for games confirmed to be in development. If this is the only source, then as far as we know they might not be acualy developing a game for it, they just will be in the future. Mattyatty 13:17, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

A Couple Suggestions
First, I would like to thank all the users who so diligently update and format this Wikipedia page to provide everyone with the most updated facts in the most presentable manner. I do believe, however, that some improvement can still be made.

A primary concern of mine is the number of 'crosses' and 'checks' found throughout the page. In comparing this particular list to the lists of games on other gaming consoles, I've realized that the 'List of Wii Games' is the only such list to have columns concerning the exclusivity of games, to which I ask: is this column necessary? Perhaps I am missing something, but I would imagine that the goal is to have a unified format between all such lists. Additionally, I believe that the 'Released' column could benefit from using the same format seen in the List of Nintendo DS games, in which a release date (or approximation) is given if available. I believe that the column listing whether a title is online should be kept, and should be the only column to utilize the 'crosses' and 'checks' icons.

Please note the following example, a modified version of the current list of Wii games with these suggestions implemented.

{| class="wikitable"
 * colspan="7"|

A
!Title!!Released!!Developer!!Publisher!!Online!!''Source February 9, 2007 🇦🇺February 8, 2007||THQ Studio Australia||THQ||||THQ
 * Animal Crossing (Wii)||TBA||Nintendo EAD||Nintendo||||Go Nintendo
 * Avatar: The Last Airbender||🇺🇸November 19, 2006
 * Avatar: The Last Airbender||🇺🇸November 19, 2006
 * Avatar: The Last Airbender||🇺🇸November 19, 2006
 * colspan="7"|
 * }

Presenting the list of Wii games in such a manner will, I believe, make the list extremely accessible and easy to understand. Perhaps some rearranging of columns is necessary, but the basic idea is there. I look forward to your thoughts and comments about this.-Digiwrld1 06:49, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I like what you are saying and I think that most people seem to be in agreement on the general principles. I have only two things that I would like to see added to your table.  The first is separate columns for each of the regions.  One of the major criticisms of the current layout is that it is very hard to tell what has been released where.  The Wii is a little odd in that different games are tending to have wildly different release dates in different areas of the world.


 * The second point is to make the list sortable. As the number of titles increase, a non sortable list will become less and less of a useful resource.  The point of this isn't just to list the games but to make finding information about them as easy as possible.  Take a look at what I posted at the end of the 'format as table' section above for my take on the problem.Telvin 3d 07:51, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Talk Page Cleanup
A number of topics in the this Talk:List of Wii games have been resolved and can be removed to focus the discussion on more present matters. Many of these topics dealt with the removal of rumored games and the addition of newly announced games leading up to the Wii launch.

The following topics have been resolved/no longer as relevant (Subject/Headline listed only): Splinter Cell 4, Metronome, No End Soonr, Suda 51 Game, Silent Hill 5 Not Coming to Revolution, Trauma Center Revolution, Pilotwings Not Confirmed, Red Steel Link, Vandalism, Nintendo Talent Studio, "Unspecified" titles, Move, Godzilla?, Let's go by Train!, Need for Speed: Carbon, Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen 5, Untitled Hideo Kojima Project, Shrek Smash N Crash, 2 more Wii games, World Series of Poker 2, World Series of Poker Link, Vandalism, Pikmin 3, NASCAR 07, Butterfly Garden, Mario kart wii

Some of these topics can be streamlined into each other (i.e. Vandalism and Rumored Games). Digiwrld1 07:19, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * All of those look good to go to me. For that matter, almost anything that hasn't been updated or commented on in the past month or two could likely go.  If it becomes important again int he future it will make a reappearance.  this is a talk page after all, not a resource.Telvin 3d 07:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response, Telvin. I will begin deleting these topics from the Talk: Page.