Talk:List of World Heritage Sites in Russia

Moscow, Moscow oblast
Is it normal to write "Moscow, Moscow oblast"? Moscow is a separate federal subject, not included in MO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.180.217.10 (talk) 09:39, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Bakhchysarai
Why is Bakhchysarai in this article? Even it's nomination is listed on UNESCO's site as Ukraine, and is listed as having been submitted by the Permanent Delegation of Ukraine to UNESCO on 24 October 2012. There is no mention of its being part of the Russian Federation, so where are the reliable sources for this claim?

I note that the article hasn't been updated to reflect what in on the tentative list, yet someone has found time to POV-push Bakhchysarai into the article. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:23, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Crimean sites
Whereas I believe they should not be included in the list, a note saying that Russia considers them a part of Russia whereas UNESCO lists them as located in Ukraine would be in order. I do not understand why it was removed.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:02, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to a link to the 'see also' section pointing to the List of World Heritage Sites in Ukraine and qualifying the Crimean sites as deemed to under the jurisdiction of the RF after the official annexation date... but not the two unnecessarily convoluted and misleading chunks of content that had been worked in here and here. Sorting the sites into chronological order is meaningless when the Crimean sites were submitted by Ukraine, and still stand as being Ukrainian submissions for UNESCO heritage sites recognised as being on Ukrainian sovereign territory. These are meant to be lists of "UNESCO World Heritage Sites" per TITLE.


 * I know that it's a headache trying to keep on top of facts on the ground vs. international recognition issues (how many articles do we have on Crimea alone by now?!), but I do think that information needs to be clearly separated and defined for the reader. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:32, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I just suggest a note saying about de factu/de jure administration, with a link to the World Heritage website to confirm they are consdered Ukrainian. If there is no opposition to this formulation, I will add it in a couple of days. I am not planning to add any new entries to the list.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:44, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * That's fine by me . The prior structure was convoluted, so just a straight forward section for Crimea qualifying the status (probably as the final section?) will serve as being encyclopaedic (that is, essentially informative) and neutral. My preference would simply be that the Crimean sites be listed separately rather than mixed together in chronological order in the tentative list. Ultimately, I'm happy to leave it to your discretion.--Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:33, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

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