Talk:List of World War I aces credited with 5 victories

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Consolidate sublists of aces with 5 victories into single sublist.

Georgejdorner (talk) 16:17, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

How new cites will improve this list
Hello, all,

A perusal of the References and Bibliography to this article shows a considerable possibility of confusion by either editor(s) or readers. A small coterie of aviation historians have written a series of useful books with near-identical titles. The present cites listing sources are rendered well-nigh useless by this duplication. To add to the chaos, cites for the same book are repeated in stupefying quantities to cite the page(s) for each ace's listing.

I propose to revamp the Reference section by swapping in multi-refs telling users to look for the individual ace under his listing in alphabetic order by last name within the verifying text. I foresee the end result will be a much shorter, much more functional, and more elegant Reference section.

I also propose to relist the Bibliography by book title rather than author name to allay confusion there.

When done, I believe this list will be a great deal more user friendly.

Georgejdorner (talk) 18:50, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

The above approach, which cut cites to about a dozen, was rejected on the grounds that readers are incapable of alphabetizing. The assessors' insistence was that every entry had to have its own cite giving page number(s). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Assessment/List_of_World_War_I_aces_credited_with_10_victories for details of how Be timid has become the credo of assessment.

Georgejdorner (talk) 19:50, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Aces with inadequate sourcing
The following aces are not listed due to a paucity of reliable secondary sources per WP:Verifiability. Information about them may be accessed via their biographical links below"


 * James Victor Gascoyne
 * Arthur William Hammond
 * James McKinley Hargreaves
 * William Drummond Matheson
 * John Russell (aviator)