Talk:List of YouTubers/Archive 7

Edit request on 8 February 2012
Please include Derek (Deek) Jackson to the list of YouTube personalities: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_YouTube_personalities

Derek (Deek) Jackson is the creator of FKN NEWZ, which is a weekly production out of the UK and can be found at: http://fknnewz.com/

Submitted by Mike Fatah (Muratib S. Fatah, 02-09-2012)

Mfatah281 (talk) 10:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 10:53, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Bulk removal
(was Miss Hannah Minx)

What is the point of having it redirect to this list, and then not having her [Hannah Minx] on the list? 85.217.46.172 (talk) 06:21, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thats a good question, can somone clear this up? thanks.Millertime246 (talk) 17:19, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hannah Minx was added using two references in May 2010: and removed last month:.
 * That edit removed Allen "Fluffee" Buckle (FLuffeetalks, FLuffee4thewin, ThisisFLuffee), Conor Maynard (skillzaisherebooya), Craig Benzine (wheezywaiter), Davin Tong (pyrobooby, PeterChaoTime, MrChaoNation), Hannah Minx (MissHannahMinx), Jemma Pixie Hixon (jemmahixon), Jonathan Paula, Jory Caron, Riley McIlwain (JPizzle1122), Josh Chomik (thecomputernerd01, JoshRocksGuitarHero), Jorge and Alexa Narvaez (realitychangers), KassemG (kassemg, kassemgtwo), Kate Elliott (Katers17, Katersoneseven), Kristina Horner (italktosnakes), Lankan Man (lankanman), Lindy Tsang (bubzbeauty, bubbisoity), Mitchell Davis (livelavalive), Natalie Di Luccio (nataliedi2), Skyy John (The Skyy John Show, SkyyJohn2, TipsyBartender), Stevie Ryan (stevieryan), Stuart Ashen (ashens), Tyler Ward (TylerWardMusic).
 * If you want to add Hannah Minx back, you will need to show sufficient substantial coverage in multiple reliable sources such that they can be considered to be notable. Although all had some mention in various news media, the level of coverage and reliability of the sources was questionable according to the editor who removed those entries. Fences  &amp;  Windows  20:27, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It is a problem, if all above mentioned have a redirect to this page. 85.217.20.33 (talk) 16:31, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * There are people far more notable than multiple people listed. But they pass because of one article presented.  But the level of coverage needed to be considered truly notable is not enough to include them in this list.   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 04:04, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


 * The point is, I think, that: when something is redirected, then it should be covered in that article. Some redirects are just synonym names, but this clearly is not. 85.217.42.126 (talk) 03:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 February 2012
Please may I have permission to edit this article

Hibye12345678910 (talk) 14:37, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This template is for requesting specific changes to the article, if you want to edit it yourself you need to become autoconfirmed-- Jac 16888 Talk 14:42, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 March 2012
Mike Lamond, known on Youtube as Huskystarcraft, is well known for producing Starcraft 2 commentary videos. He is trying to get E-sports to be as mainstream a sport as any. He has, as of March 2012, over 600,000 subscribers and over 280,000,000 video views (http://www.youtube.com/user/huskystarcraft). He can often been seen at MLG events casting along side other casters such as Ben "MrBitter" Nichol, Marcus 'djWHEAT' Graham, and Sean 'Day9' Plott (http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/16264-mlg-anaheim-schedule-and-caster-line-up).

Couchwood (talk) 06:28, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: I don't think that meets the requirement for notability. Sorry, Celestra (talk) 19:12, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 20 March 2012
There are no Gaming Commentators (Syndicate, Machinima, etc.) On the list of Youtube Personalities.

166.252.181.197 (talk) 11:21, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 11:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

FPSRussia...?
i don't know why FPSRussia's article was deleted. I also don't know why he is not on this list. At nearly 2.2 million subscribers, nearly 400 million video views, and being ranked 14th in the world in video views, he's quite noteworthy. http://vidstatsx.com/FPSRussia/youtube-channel http://www.youtube.com/user/FPSRussia

--Mark0528 (talk) 02:58, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 06:25, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, just read the "following requirements" thing. I didn't realize that subscriber and view count weren't sufficient. I'll reply back if I find something reliable and noteworthy. --Mark0528 (talk) 17:00, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The account could be the 10th most viewed channel in the world, for all we care - if there are no reliable sources to corroborate their channel, it won't be added in. If you want it in, I suggest finding some reliable sources that make it noteworthy. Thank you, -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 07:41, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 April 2012
Dom Mazzetti
 * Dom O. Mazzetti
 * Satirical character of Mike & Gian comedy.
 * http://www.youtube.com/user/DomMazzetti

Merolla87 (talk) 01:38, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 03:23, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Craig Benzine
Is this enough to put Wheezy Waiter on the list? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3439278/ http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-37441597/when-success-doesnt-come-fast-enough/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.114.81.227 (talk) 19:56, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * IMDB, no. The second link, yes.  Yes check.svg Done   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 13:30, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

The Crazy Nastyass Honey Badger
Yeah, I know that Honey Badger don't give a shit, but it sure seems like everyone else I know does. If you're telling me there are no RSes for THIS, that may speak volumes as to which direction information is headed in the future.RadioKAOS (talk) 04:16, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 21 april 2012
Would Kassem G be considered notable enough? He has his own wikipedia page with several references. I found these two as well from sources I would call reliable:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/11/business/media/11youtube.html?_r=1&src=busln http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelhumphrey/2011/12/28/interviewing-kassemg-about-youtube-adult-actresses-and-interviewing/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Choppish (talk • contribs) 20:02, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 May 2012
Alex Day- famous for 2 top 20 hits and the first unsigned artist to reach the top 5 in the UK charts. Lady godiva got to number 15 and Forever number 4. He has been offered to many record labels but says he is staying independent.

Evetta123 (talk) 13:16, 6 May 2012 (UTC)


 * No need to put the link in a reference tag. So I fixed that for you.  The intro to the interview states how he is notable.  I give this a pass and an entry.  Yes check.svg Done   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 00:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Yogscast/BlueXephos/Simon and Lewis
The Yogscast should be added, for they have made news as of late (and they have also accrued over a million YouTube subscribers):

http://www.justpushstart.com/2012/05/yogscast-kickstarter-project-yogventures-is-225-successful/

http://www.justpushstart.com/2012/04/yogventures-gets-funding-on-kickstarter/

Thank you for your time.

PokeHomsar (talk) 09:26, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. And please note that a high number of views and/or subscribers is not a valid reason for inclusion on this list. Thank you, -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 09:43, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

alphabetizing
I don't think I've ever seen an encyclopedic publication organize peoples' names by their first name. I'm interested in knowing why it was decided to use the first name to alphabetize. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.235.130 (talk) 14:30, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 May 2012

 * Jasmeet Singh
 * JusReign
 * JusVlogs

Known for making videos based on life of a typical Indian/Sikh child. 114.76.186.41 (talk) 15:54, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didn't see this when I responded to the request below. The same rationale applies; list article entries are normally of those with Wikipedia articles already. Dru of Id (talk) 03:19, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Cimorelli
A singing group consisting of 6 sisters popularized through YouTube

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/257007/showbiz/cimorelli-band-one-of-the-latest-sensations-on-youtube (Article from May 2012) http://malibutimes.net/articles/2011/05/11/malibu_life/art1.txt (Article from May 2011) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.52.216.35 (talk) 18:31, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 May 2012

 * Cassandra Croft
 * NerdzRL
 * Female Canadian Vlogger
 * Female Canadian Vlogger

Olivinedream (talk) 00:04, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Per the edit notice: "All new entries must be for artists who have received significant coverage in one or more reliable sources". The source you provided does not provide the sort of substantive coverage required under that standard. What you need to do is provide a reliable source (preferably 2 or more) that provides substantive coverage of the subject, not just statistics on subscribers etc. Monty  845  04:26, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Spanish famous in youtube
This list has only english speakers famous. Spanish very famous are: Wendy Sulca, Tigresa del Oriente, Delfín hasta el fin, Isasaweis, The boy of "La caída de Edgar", Señorita Antioquia, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.117.200.32 (talk) 00:25, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Daxflame
I've no wish to edit this article, but I was looking for Daxflame. There's a redirect here and he's not mentioned. Now, I know he was a troll, but he was certainly notable at the time, is there a reason he's no longer referred to on here - or has the encyclopedia's definition of Youtube personalities changed? 62.255.248.225 (talk) 11:14, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm a little conflicted on this one. Daxflame was definitely a well known character in his day. According to the bullet list here on Wikipedia, there needs to be a significant coverage from reliable sources in order for a personality to be added to this page. I'm guessing that's why he was removed. His lack of media coverage, however, is because he was an invented character and the actor that plays the character intentionally didn't seek media coverage. It's similar to Boxxy in this regard. At the end of the day, though, Dax still doesn't even rank in the top 100 most subscribed or most viewed channels, which is why I say I'm conflicted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsfj50pa (talk • contribs) 12:11, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * That's surprising, I did presume there must have been a lot of articles back in the day - or perhaps not, see below.


 * Perhaps the bullet list requires a look at. Whilst I appreciate your average fake-celeb/singer would require a raft of articles about them to prove their notability, much on YouTube is popular from a grotesque curiosity/fly-on-the-wall aspect.  In Daxflame's case you had (ostensibly) a look in to a damaged adolescent's life.  The truth is most people watched his videos in order to be entertained, to laugh at him.  It'd be very hard to find a journalist who'd admit to that, but does that make it any less notable, given how many views he had during his golden period?  I'm very aware that YT used to have problems with scammed page views, but it seems to me that if you're going to do an article on YT's 100 most popular people, perhaps you should actually list those people as per YT's ranking instead of an arbitrary system of your own design.  Alternatively, rename the page "List of YT personalities as per Wikipedia's speshul rools"


 * I'm not picking at you here, btw, I just find it odd that a WP ranking goes above the article subject's own ranking. Although I'm assuming he'd be in a YT top 100, I could be totally wrong ofc. 62.255.248.225 (talk) 13:25, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Consensus changes all the time unfortunately, and at the end of the day, we follow Wikipedia's rules on no original research; notability etc. - not YouTube's. -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 14:11, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Here you go http://www.wired.com/table_of_malcontents/2007/02/why_i_love_yout_1/ 62.255.248.225 (talk) 14:52, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Josh Chomik
Is Josh Chomik (thecomputernerd01) notable enough to be on this list? --Fladoodle (talk) 08:02, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 08:06, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/04/youtube_channel_earns_college.html --Fladoodle (talk) 08:07, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Gamers
This page does not have many real gamers. Most of the gaming channels listed are just side channels for youtubers, which are not their main channels. May I suggest a few:

Ksiolajidebt Here is an article http://kotaku.com/5897574/hes-a-video-game-video-star-and-he-wants-out

Thesyndicateproject http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/the-syndicate-project-teenager-quits-school-773613

Bluexephos http://www.edge-online.com/news/yogscast-credit-us-minecrafts-success

219.92.218.90 (talk) 10:35, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Chester See
Makes comedy/music videos. Part of Ryan Higas YTF Crew.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2520235/ 114.76.186.41 (talk) 15:59, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * See the guideline Red link and the essay Write the article first. Also, IMDb is not considered a Reliable Source (RS). Dru of Id (talk) 16:08, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * As good as he'd be on the list, if you've spent any amount of time searching for an article on Chester See, than you'd know it's quite hard to find stuff. Yes, you can search him, just harder to find articles.   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 13:46, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * While I think the argument above was valid at the time it was made, now that he is a part of the YOMYOMF channel he has become far more talked about, considering YOMYOMF has been the subject of major news companies' articles with Chester being mention in them and such.


 * http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/youtube-channel-yomyomf-launches-focus-on-asian-american-pop-culture/2012/06/15/gJQAhEbKfV_story.html)


 * Schwebz (talk) 05:28, 11 July 2012 (UTC) Schwebz

SeaNanners?
Can we put SeaNanners on this list? He has become a symbol of the community of game commentators as well as the gaming community in general. http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/04/tech/gaming-gadgets/adam-montoya-seananners/index.html --Dragonite1997 (talk) 02:02, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Rooster Teeth
Rooster Teeth Productions is widely known on youtube for it's popular web series like Red vs Blue and it's gaming Channel Achievement Hunters. It has recently passed one billion views on youtube, and has one of the longest running web shows of all time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.207.50.27 (talk) 22:57, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Toby Turner's own Wikipedia page and suggestion?
I was wondering, shouldn't Toby Turner get his own Wikipedia page? He is a great comedian, and is also featured in the Annoying Orange TV series. Also, I want to suggest GeekSlayer73, he is an Indian-American comedian, and has created a popular webseries, Indian House. Thank you for taking my requests into consideration. --Hello, I&#39;m a Wikipedian! (talk) 01:41, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * If the subject has multiple reliable secondary sources that corroborate his notability over the years, an article can be created on him. However, the sources must be about him and not about his accounts on YouTube. Hope that helps, -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 03:42, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

CaptainSparklez?
Can we add CaptainSparklez (Jordan Maron)? --Hello, I&#39;m a Wikipedian! (talk) 16:58, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Dave Days
I noticed Dave Days isn't on this list yet I feel he is very notable, for instance, he has an interview with forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/04/04/indie-musician-dave-days-talks-about-life-as-a-youtube-star/) and is mentioned here (http://watch.accesshollywood.com/video/twitter-fan-question:-miley-explains-dave-days-youtube-cameo/1312875594001). Also, he is part of the digitour, was on Disney Channels "so random" for a song he has on youtube, and has been in the billboard uncharted top 10. Also, there seem to be many other reliable sources on his wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Days). Also, sorry if anything seems odd here as I am fairly new to the Wikipedia community. Schwebz (talk) 07:04, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Gamers? Whiteboy7thst? Pewdiepie? etc... Music add on's?
What about gamers such as Whiteboy7thst? Pewdiepie? WoodysGamertag, etc... Whiteboy has over 1.3 million subs, as well as Pewdiepie. Woody has over 800,000 and they all have hundred's of millions of views... I think there worth adding. Maybe also add Tyler ward music, or Boyce Avenue? just some ideas? Missoulian (talk) 04:10, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Not done: Insufficient reasons for change provided. Please remember that a high number of views and/or subscribers is not a valid reason for inclusion on this list. -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 04:40, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

I added Pewdiepie the other day, by the way. But I only added him because I had a news article that was discussing him to a significant extent. If you want find such news articles for other people, such as Whiteboy, then they can be added. Silver seren C 06:27, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 7 August 2012
I would like Bill Petersen to be listed in the YouTube personalities page, his channel AlChestBreach has been gaining rapid attention from people interested in comedy, The Fallout series and TESV: Skyrim, he also has his own wikipedia made by fans, several Fallout: New Vegas mods dedicated to him, and references to him in several mods. His other channel, Billtcm has not been so successful compared to AlChestBreach, mainly because he hasn't announced it even being on YouTube the other reason is that he doesn't show his face on AlChestBreach, but he does on Billtcm. He is also working on a Minecraft server with his close but less popular friends, "PaladinV0ci", "JusticeManJoe", "Darziak", and Twar97. Also his face should not be shown on the Wikipedia Page, should one be made, because if a fan looks up "AlChestBreach" on Wikipedia and see's his face than the mystique of Al will definitely be ruined.

142.167.185.251 (talk) 01:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Topher385 (talk) 17:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request: Cimorelli
They are a popular YouTube girl band comprised of sisters. They are currently signed to Universal Records (Universal Island Records) in the US and have charted on iTunes music charts worldwide. Sources: http://ryanseacrest.com/2011/12/07/youtube-girl-group-cimorelli-makes-big-debut-on-itunes-charts-audio/ and also here: http://www.teen.com/2012/07/18/celebrities/the-new-star/cimorelli-band-bio-facts-photos/. Thanks, Threeperfectdays (talk) 13:52, 15 August 2012 (UTC).

Edit request on 19 August 2012
In the ctfxc box you forgot to put alli grippy too

174.95.10.232 (talk) 04:55, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. &mdash; Deontalk 05:04, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Chuggaaconroy
Shouldn't people like Chuggaaconroy or NintendoCapriSun be on this list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.190.254.46 (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Seconded.
I agree. 71.192.117.233 (talk) 04:32, 21 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Much as I like them, they haven't really got significant coverage on reliable sources. A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  16:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 August 2012
Steve Zaragoza and Meg Turney should be added to the Sourcefed list as both have become full time hosts of 20 Mins Or Less.

Meg Turney Proof: Steve Proof: http://newmediarockstars.com/2012/08/youtubes-philip-defranco-sourcefed-cast-talk-500000-subscriber-milestone/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevin Sivadas (talk • contribs) 18:14, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Kevin Sivadas (talk) 16:20, 23 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  16:45, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Still ❌, as the link above says, they need reliable sources, i.e. not youtube links-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:42, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 31 August 2012
I've noticed that PewDiePie has a spot in the list, but UberHaxorNova doesn't. Could he possibly be added to the list?

MrSlendington (talk) 15:51, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * We need coverage in reliable sources, but I wouldn't imagine it'd be too hard for Nova. A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  05:34, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 September 2012
The Youtube personality Pewdiepie now has over 2 million subscribers rather than 1 million, as the article states. Here is a link to his channel with the subscriber count: http://www.youtube.com/user/PewDiePie and here is the link to the video where he discusses the milestone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIuLxsAvYi8&feature=plcp

I'm assuming this is enough evidence. I can't think of another way of proving this. He and all of his fans would appreciate it if this was updated. Thanks in advance.

Mtbkr24 (talk) 01:50, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Done.  Kyle  1278  00:43, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Where's Ashens?
Stuart Ashen. Enough said. Cacolantern 14:05, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 10:37, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 September 2012
Please change the name "Jenna Marbles" to "Jenna Maury," as I see that most of the other youtubers are listed by their real names. It can be seen that her real name is Jenna Maury on her official Facebook page.

68.42.71.85 (talk) 05:28, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 10:37, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 September 2012
Earlier, in my request to change Jenna Marbles' name to her real one, I misspelled her name. It is Jenna Mourey. That was my mistake.

68.42.71.85 (talk) 05:54, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 10:37, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 September 2012
Broken Pixels

OfficialBrokenPixels, nfamoustv, featured on Machinima - Well known for video game rap reviews and official Saints Row song.

Duff, Jeremy "Saints Row: The Third- How Did You Celebrate All Saints Day?"

Nuyoriquena (talk) 17:45, 19 September 2012
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kyle  1278  21:00, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Zinnia Jones
Shouldn't Zinnia Jones (ZJemptv) off YouTube be on the list? She does have tens of thousands of subscribers, she is a YouTube partner, and her channel touches on many different subjects - namely atheism, LGBT issues, feminism etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.192.12 (talk) 01:22, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kyle  1278  21:00, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

CaptainSparklez and ThePianoGuys?
I think CaptainSparklez (Jordan Maron) and ThePianoGuys (John Schmidt and Steven Sharp Nelson) should be added to the list.

Why?

- CaptainSparklez
 * 1.7 million subscribers
 * Very famous for gamers
 * Videos are watched over 457 million times

-ThePianoGuys
 * 859000 subscribers
 * Very famous for it's music
 * Videos are watched over 157 million times

And there are people on the list with less subscribers and viewers. Like Alexis Jordan, she has only 52000 subscribers. What do you think about it? (Zaflow (talk) 20:37, 10 October 2012 (UTC))
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kyle  1278  04:05, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Piano_Guys http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePianoGuys

http://www.youtube.com/user/CaptainSparklez — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaflow (talk • contribs) 17:30, 12 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I have added The Piano Guys since they have a wiki article and cited sources but can not add CaptinSparklez because there needs to be sources outside of YouTube to demonstrate notability video views and subscribers dose not make someone notable on this list.  Kyle  1278  19:53, 12 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, is his Facebook and Twitter good enough to add him?


 * http://twitter.com/CaptainSparklez
 * http://www.facebook.com/CptSparklez (Zaflow (talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 13:08, 13 October 2012 (UTC)


 * No they don't help read please RS news article about the person would be the best references to get him on the list.  Kyle  1278  22:16, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

PSY
Who doesn't know Psy for it's world famous song Gangnam Style. The most liked video on Youtube and Gangnam Style were in several countries the number 1 hit. He also was in the show Ellen with where he teached Britney Spears how to Gangnam. He has also his own Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psy_(rapper)

(Zaflow (talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 20:08, 13 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I've added him to the list, its mainly his YouTube video that got him famous -A1candidate (talk) 21:15, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Vsauce
I believe Vsauce(Michael Stevens) should be added since he has more than 1,000,000 subscribers and his videos are plain awesome. Anyone agree??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chennyalan (talk • contribs) 11:47, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also, please remember that a high number of views and/or subscribers is not a valid reason for inclusion on this list -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 11:55, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 October 2012
I am one of the critics on YouTube, and there is a YouTube user that should be added.

AirbusA380 (talk) 19:44, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Please be specific about what change you are requesting ("change X to Y") and provide a reliable source RudolfRed (talk) 20:38, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Update of top ten list?
realannoyingorange isn't number 10 anymore. Pewdiepie is number 10 as he has 2.724 million subs and realannoyingorange only has 2.574 million. Link to Pewdiepie's channel here: http://www.youtube.com/user/pewdiepie?feature=results_main and realannoyingorange's here: http://www.youtube.com/user/realannoyingorange?feature=results_main

also, the subscribers for the top ten have changed and it's probably beneficial that we update them to how many they actually have. For example EpicMealTime doesn't have 2.800 million subscribers anymore. He now has 2.861 million subs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheDamox (talk • contribs) 05:04, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Zefrank?
I think Ze Frank should be added in here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RedRad (talk • contribs) 01:43, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on CaptainSparklez
Done

That the CaptianSparklez be removed from the C category, and instead be placed in J under his true name, Jordan Maron with the same credentials as before because his true name is not CaptainSparklez.

86.131.13.67 (talk) 19:01, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Pictogram voting question.svg Question: - The edit requests higher on this page indicate that the addition of CaptainSparklez was rejected for lack of a reliable source. The entry as it stands has no reference.
 * Do you have a reliable source for this entry? Without one, it's likely to simply be removed. Begoon &thinsp; talk  10:25, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You should've checked to see if he had an article first: Jordan Maron. Look at the refs there. - M0rphzone (talk) 09:46, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, I would certainly have done so before altering the entry. I'm still waiting for an answer to my question to the original requester. I do notice another editor removed the entry in the meantime, though:.
 * Now that you have so helpfully answered on his behalf we can kill two birds with one stone. I've reinserted the entry, adding the reference the removing editor requested, and made the amendment from above at the same time. Thank you. Begoon &thinsp; talk  11:09, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 7 December 2012
Addition of the VigilantSpectre Operations channel to the list. User name: VigilantSpectre Identity: do not disclose Know for his firearms videos which engage viewers with a 360 degree range, and run-and-gun format. Made famous by his Glock failure video that caused outrage in te glock ownership community. Has been featured in multiple blogs and forums including ENDO Blog, AR-15.com, OhioCCW to name a few.

174.231.12.26 (talk) 17:03, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: We need WP:Reliable sources for his inclusion onto the list please post links to the sources you claim.  Kyle  1278  20:38, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Mistake needs fixing
2 people are listed as the most subscribed female on Youtube...thats just silly right? 78.148.138.81 (talk) 17:06, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds silly, doesn't it? Assuming you are referring to Jenna Mourey and Michelle Phan, which one do you think deserves the description? Or maybe neither of them, because there's a higher "number" which can be found in a source for someone else? How does just removing that part of the description(s) sound to you? After all, it's a "List of YouTube personalities" - not an up to the minute "league table" edited whenever a monthly stat changes... Just some thoughts. Make of them what you will. Begoon &thinsp; talk  18:07, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 December 2012
Hi. I'm Zennie Abraham, and my YouTube Channel Zennie62 has been a YT Partner since 200, generating over 44 million video views since 2006.. I'm writing to be included in the list. In 2011, Megan O'Neill featured me in this article: http://socialtimes.com/zennie-abraham_b68441. Although there are others, that's the one I prefer to use. Thank you for your time.

Zenniewiki (talk) 01:16, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol declined.svg|16px]] Declined One article in a non-notable publication will not cut it. Also see WP:COI. OhNo itsJamie Talk 02:31, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Weebl
Where is Mr. Weebl? He heas even his wikipedia page! --90.177.34.146 (talk) 18:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 10:37, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Red links mean nothing exists, not even a redirect...  Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 20:25, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

John Bain/TotalBiscuit
John Bain is a fairly popular YouTube personality and gaming commentator that has received over 320-million views on his primary channel alone (http://www.youtube.com/totalhalibut), notable among some of the personalities listed here (i.e., Yogscast), hosted gaming tournaments, given awards, etc. His own page here on Wikipedia covers more sources than I can give (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TotalBiscuit). I think he meets the requirements to be on this list.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volkov127 (talk • contribs) 14:49, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Popularity means nothing. If your popularity doesn't translate outside of YouTube, than you are not notable.  The references in that article don't seen notable.  Get a notable third party reference, than we can look at this again.   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 20:22, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Psy Shouldn't Be Listed?
According to what I've been reading on Psy, he has been around since 1999 in the music business and has released five full length albums, one EP, and soon to be second EP. Just because "Gangnam Style" made him a big superstar this year, this doesn't mean he should be listed. It's not like he was discovered on YouTube like Justin Bieber. Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 20:18, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 December 2012
Sam Tsui has his own youtube channel now: http://www.youtube.com/user/thesamtsui Please change this.

Furthermore, I'm surprised that wikipedia has not included Boyce Avenue (Channel link: http://www.youtube.com/user/boyceavenue) into this list - they are like the first few singers/bands to utilise Youtube to share their music. I'm sure you would agree with me that the number of subscribers and views give enough of an excuse for them to be a major Youtube personality. -- sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyce_Avenue and http://boyceavenue.com/

Lastly, there are several new people/bands on youtube that has made a name for themselves. Perhaps, once you've checked them out, you may consider including them and their channel into this list: 1. Paradise Fears (Channel link: http://www.youtube.com/user/paradisefears) - A rock band, sources: http://www.paradisefears.com/; http://www.paradisefearscentral.com/ 2. Wellington (Channel link: http://www.youtube.com/user/wellingtonband) - A new band with 2 original songs under their belt. This band was created via the combination of several talented Youtubers such as Ricky Ficarelli (Channel link: http://www.youtube.com/user/RickyFicarelli), David Michael Frank (Channel link: http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidMichaelFrank), Troy Romzek (Channel link: http://www.youtube.com/user/TroyRomzek) and Jose 3. Symphony of Science (Channel link: http://www.youtube.com/user/melodysheep) - he creates amazing remixes using scientific documentaries and autotune

Aveyn (talk) 12:42, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Not done: Insufficient reasons for change provided. Please remember that a high number of views and/or subscribers is not a valid reason for inclusion on this list. -- MST  ☆  R   (Merry Christmas!) 12:50, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Firstly, I think you might have missed this from my previous post, but Sam Tsui no longer share Youtube channel with Kurt Schneider - he has his own Youtube Channel now at http://www.youtube.com/user/thesamtsui. Please change 'KurtHugoSchneider' to 'TheSamTsui'.

I've edited some sources into my previous post when you replied (Sorry!) - Anyway, I'll repost them below. Please recheck and see whether they are valid. Some of them have wikipedia pages about them, but then they are not included in this list. This seems weird to me. Thanks!

Here are some of the sources for Symphony of Science:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_of_Science; http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/tag/symphony-of-science/#.UMSJu4NQFWY; http://www.symphonyofscience.com/

Sources for Boyce Avenue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyce_Avenue and http://boyceavenue.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aveyn (talk • contribs) 12:56, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * All you did was link a Wikipeida page and Boyce Avenue's official website. You seem like you aren't grasping the concept of sources.  We need third party reliable sources.  No what you tried to pass off as a source...  Oh and blogs are generally not used for a source because they can be WP:POV.   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 23:22, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

James Rolfe
I removed the "Angry Video Game Nerd" James Rolfe due two things being the citation needed tag has been up for eight months and the dispute over where his videos were first uploaded. Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 23:10, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

KSIOlajidebt
http://www.youtube.com/user/KSIOlajidebt - he has over 700k subscribers at the moment and this amount is significantly rising. He's by far the most popular Youtuber, who dedicated his channel to FIFA series. 176.106.110.78 (talk) 15:37, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also, please remember that a high number of views and/or subscribers is not a valid reason for inclusion on this list -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 00:18, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

I actually suggested KSIOLAJIDEBT before this guy together with two other youtubers and provided like 3 news articles as sources on an old version of this talk page, but you guys just ignored me. No one said if the sources were unreliable or anything, I just got ignored. You wikipedians ask people to provide sources, but when we do you just ignore us. You lock the page and don't let us edit, but you ignore the suggestions you don't feel like doing. (Redacted). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_YouTube_personalities/Archive_7#Gamers 210.186.240.106 (talk) 13:05, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll leave this request to another editor to format - those three news articles appear to be reliable. I'll see what I can do. -- MST  ☆  R   (Happy New Year!) 13:18, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 7 January 2013
I want to add one more youtuber who is very famous i.e. HIKAKIN - he is famous for his music technique called beatboxing, through which he plays music from his mouth he has 2 channels - HIKAKIN and HIKAKINTV, SOURCE - http://www.youtube.com/user/HIKAKIN?feature=watch ..... THNQUE BROS... he has 509,763 subscribers 160,435,260 video views

Arjunkhan1999 (talk) 09:58, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also, please remember that a high number of views and/or subscribers is not a valid reason for inclusion on this list. -- MST  ☆  R   (Happy New Year!) 10:05, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Someone needs to update the list. Smosh just passed RayWilliamJohnson for subscribers, as of January 12. 70.135.35.66 (talk) 02:14, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 January 2013
Peter Nalitch was discovered following his 2007 upload to YouTube of "Guitar" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOzkN8dHnjk). He his popular in Russia and represented Russia in 2010 at the Eurovision Song Contest. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Nalitch for this information. It would be great if he could be added to the 'List of YouTube personalities' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_YouTube_personalities) Peter Nalitch / hanurpriehal / Discovered 2007 after uploading the song Guitar. Represented Russia at Eurovision Contest 2010 / References see above

Rubberduckieandgoose (talk) 05:34, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Popularity means nothing. No source indicating notability no dice.   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 06:55, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Pol430   talk to me  23:03, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

SeaNanners
He is awesome AND recognized. add him. now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.54.217.136 (talk) 04:21, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 05:00, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 January 2013: Felix Kjellberg
Felix Kjellberg also known as "PewDiePie" has just breached 4 million subscribers where as your Youtube Personalalities page says around 3 million.

173.73.141.89 (talk) 17:30, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Thank you! Vaca  tion  9  18:15, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

SeaNanners
I noticed someone felt Seananners should be included on the list but didn't have any reliable sources so I went ahead and found one. http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/04/tech/gaming-gadgets/adam-montoya-seananners BTW sorry if this is the completely wrong format, new to the whole wikipedia editing thing.Schwebz (talk) 02:04, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Chris Smoove
Shouldn't be Chris Smoove here? I mean he has more subs than Chuggaa and nobody added Chris Smoove? He has 600k subs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EncycloAgainstWiki (talk • contribs) 01:16, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. More subscribers mean nothing. If you can't translate outside of YouTube, than you are not notable. Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 20:24, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Here is my reliable source :D http://www.youtube.com/user/smoove7182954
 * Had you actually read WP:RS, you'd know that doesn't qualify as a reliable source. OhNo itsJamie Talk 21:59, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Josh Chomik
Is Josh Chomik (thecomputernerd01) notable enough to be on this list? --Fladoodle (talk) 02:38, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Just asking a question doesn't help anyone to deduce if he is or not. Some background information on this person and reliable third party sources would help to determine notability.   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 23:01, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/04/youtube_channel_earns_college.html

Fladoodle (talk) 03:04, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Pewdiepie
http://www.youtube.com/user/PewDiePie Pewidepie has over 5.1 million subscribers, on this list, he doesn't even have 4.7 million. I would be pleased if this was changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.80.119.104 (talk) 01:04, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 13:38, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

RoosterTeeth
My apologies if this was already addressed, I searched the archives and the current page for any discussion on Rooster Teeth. Is there a reason they're omitted? Even going by the 2/16/13 date from the charts (using the SocialBlade.com source), they had 3,197,190 subs on that date, qualifying for 15th on the top 30 list. I noted that Gavin Free is listed, but it seems more for his part in The Slow Mo Guys.

If Rooster Teeth is included, the following should be considered for addition: The following do the bulk of the videos currently being uploaded to the channel, via the Achievement Hunter
 * Burnie Burns
 * Geoff Ramsey
 * Matt Hullum
 * Joel Heyman
 * Gus Sorola
 * Jack Pattillo
 * Michael Jones
 * Ray Narvaez, Jr
 * Brandon Light
 * Caleb Denecour
 * Ryan Haywood

Its debatable if all these names should be included, and under what criteria. If its by how often they appear in videos, then Sorola, Heyman, and Hullum do not appear in many videos. They do, however, do voicework on the popular Red Vs Blue series, which is also uploaded to this channel.

Xeroproject (talk) 03:10, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Chris Pirillo?
Chris Pirillo on his various YT accounts has done over 5000 YT videos, mainly based on the tech subject matter, and is fairly well known for it I'd have thought — inclusion? If so please feel free to add. Jimthing (talk) 01:15, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sources are needed showing notability. Just doing videos and being "well known" is not enough."   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 13:08, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 March 2013
Add Boogie with the channel Boogie2988 to the list of YouTube personalities. Famous YouTuber with over a third of a million of subscribers on YouTube.

Johansunden (talk) 01:21, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Please provide reliable sources with significant coverage of the YouTuber. A large number of subscribers is, by itself, not a reason to include an entry.  — daranz [ t ] 01:57, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

More youtubers!
Please add kickthepj, amazingphil, danisnotonfire, crabstickz, alexandercarpenter, theoliwhitetv, meekakitty, jacksg and randomprodinc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Funkypopok (talk • contribs) 08:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * No sources showing notability, no dice.  Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 02:32, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Pewdiepie
Just hit 6 million subs. 0xg0ldpk3rx0 (talk) 21:44, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Devinsupertramp A.K.A. Devin Graham
He has been very popular on youtube and there are many notable sources to back him up. A few include: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504784_162-57563925-10391705/no-pants-subway-ride-2013-and-worlds-largest-snowball-fight/, http://now.msn.com/face-team-pulls-off-awesome-trampoline-dunks-in-viral-video and http://nerdreactor.com/2013/01/31/rc-airplane-dogfight-with-splinter-cells-sam-fisher/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schwebz (talk • contribs) 03:45, 7 February 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/user/devinsupertramp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.197.77.53 (talk) 22:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 April 2013
Caspar Lee http://www.standard.co.uk/news/techandgadgets/youtube-inspires-the-video-stars-8549467.html

209.105.209.143 (talk) 00:45, 6 April 2013 (UTC) Not done: More info needed - Channel name etc. Mdann52 (talk) 13:04, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 April 2013
Please add GloZell Green to the list she is most known for her cinnamon challenge video. Her channels are glozell1 and GloZellGreen

24.118.11.193 (talk) 03:05, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Insufficient reasons for change provided. Please remember that a high number of views and/or subscribers is not a valid reason for inclusion on this list. Mdann52 (talk) 13:04, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 April 2013
Please add VenusAngelic to the list of famous youtube users, because she has 45,000,000 views at the moment, She went viral as "Living Doll". Source: www.youtube.com/venusangelic References: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2136332/Venus-Palermo-The-truth-15-year-old-human-Barbie-South-London.html http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4251638/Venus-Palermo-news-The-teenage-girl-who-spends-120-a-month-to-live-like-a-real-life-doll.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/20/teenager-venus-angelic-living-doll_n_1365798.html

Maggie.7537 (talk) 13:47, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Mdann52 (talk) 13:04, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Tiffany Alvord
https://www.youtube.com/user/TiffanyAlvord Tiffany Alvord has 1,3 Million subscribers and 288.659.485 Views --79.197.77.53 (talk) 21:57, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Insufficient reasons for change provided. Please remember that a high number of views and/or subscribers is not a valid reason for inclusion on this list. Mdann52 (talk) 13:04, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

The Syndicate Project
TheSyndicateProject has 3.58 million subscribers and isn't on these lists. Can he be added? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.213.217 (talk) 21:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

"most subscribed female youtube personality"
According to the list there seems to be a small zoo of those:
 * Jenna Mourey, probably the actual one according to the numbers shown on youtube (>8M),
 * Jodie Rivera, supposedly former number one, who number of subscribers is not even close to it (<1M) and
 * Michelle Phan with less than 4M subscribers as of now.

Someone might want to clean this up.

--Horas (talk) 16:09, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Tyler Oakley
ok, so I was wondering if Tyler Oakley has his own page here on Wikipedia, than is that enough to add him to this list 99.119.191.97 (talk) 20:41, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 May 2013
I think that the following entries should be added to the list:


 * Nick
 * MisterEpicMann
 * Notable for creating the viral video, "How Animals Eat Their Food", among several others.
 * Notable for creating the viral video, "How Animals Eat Their Food", among several others.


 * Jordan, Josh, and Kelli Taylor
 * Blimey Cow
 * Notable for their series Messy Mondays, many episodes of which have gone viral, most notably, "Seven Lies About Homeschoolers"
 * Notable for their series Messy Mondays, many episodes of which have gone viral, most notably, "Seven Lies About Homeschoolers"

DaJoezenOne (talk) 19:29, 22 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: Blimey Cow is already in the article. I added MisterEpicMann. -- El Hef  ( Meep? ) 16:52, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

TheSyndicateProject/ProSyndicate
Has over 4 million subscribers, should be on the list.

http://youtube.com/user/thesyndicateproject — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericwall (talk • contribs) 14:29, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 June 2013
An Edit for Jacksgap: The Channel on Youtube is from Jack and Finn, what means, the two of them should be in the list, not only Jack. Jack had runned the Channel first and Finn hadn't wanted to join, but he changed his mind and now they run the channel together. And they have now 2 Million subscribers on 12.6.13 or a few days later or a few days before..

91.115.65.138 (talk) 11:32, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Bring a source that proves this with you then make the request again and i'll change it. MM (Report findings)  (Past espionage) 11:04, 18 June 2013 (UTC)