Talk:List of agglomerations by population

Chicago
It is inappropriate to include Chicago so high on the list, it seems like a North American viewpoint to list an area that spreads beyond a 500 mile width with obvious areas of zero population as Chicago to Toronto is. There is a certain separation between the Chicago and Toronto areas. These two areas fit into separate agglomerations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.7.29 (talk) 23:03, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

It's pretty ridiculous, I agree. That is a huge region, made up of some urban areas and some rural ones. 209.160.124.218 (talk) 14:11, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Istanbul
It is a common misconception that Turks do things properly, so when you get figures from Turkish Bureau of Statistics (TUIK)’s Address-Based Population Recording System (ADNKS) you would think that is a proper estimate of population. Here are the problems with that: our current official definition of a metropolitan area is simply the entire province, including rural areas sometimes over 100km away from the actual metro area (this was done recently as a gerrymandering tactic by the current government which gets more votes from rural areas). This usually results in overestimation of metro areas. However, in the case of Istanbul there is another problem: Istanbul’s urban sprawl has spilled over to the neighboring provinces decades ago, but those bits don’t count in the official figures. This makes Istanbul underestimated. (plus I think the figure here are 2014, so that adds to the underestimation)

The data I provide below are the official Dec.2015 figures (in thousands) from Turkish Bureau of Statistics’ ADNKS as well, but I am using county-level data under the guidance of GoogleEarth as well as first hand knowledge.

Istanbul province 14657 (i.e. official figure for metropolitan municipality). Substract rural Şile and Adalar from this to get 14608.

Uninterrupted urbanization that conects to this: Çayırova, Darıca, Dilovası, Gebze counties of Kocaeli province and MarmaraEreğlisi county of Tekirdağ province. Total population 720, bringing the total of Istanbul “urban area” or “urban agglomeration” (as defined in the respective wiki pages of these terms) to 15328.

In addition to these, there are towns that have daily commuter relations with Istanbul: Başiskele, Derince, Gölcük, İzmit, Kartepe and Körfez counties of Kocaeli province; Çerkezköy and Çorlu counties of Tekirdağ province. Total population 1375, bringing the total of Istanbul “metropolitan area” (as defined in the wiki page of this term) to 16703.

So the correct figure is 15.3 million at the end of 2015.

Note: I'll post a copy of this to talk pages of other population lists in Wikipedia. Nkt777 (talk) 23:07, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Single source problems
Same single source problems as the other articles. We can do better than this. Greater Jakarta, Jabodetabek "including Bekasi, Bogor, Depok, Tangerang, Tangerang Selatan" is 28 million - they even form a census unit, so the figure is hardly in doubt (the agglomeration actually goes south of there, but this is sufficient for most purposes). You've just left off 10 million people.

Come on, people. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia which synthesises information from all reliable sources, not cutting and pasting somebody else's problematic list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.63.145 (talk) 22:35, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

The Hague
Number 144 is Rotterdam (including The Hague). Number 327 is The Hague (including Leiden). So shouldn't that be all one agglomeration then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.213.229.93 (talk) 10:08, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Question about the number of different world city lists
See post at. If you have any comments please post there. Eldumpo (talk) 09:45, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Article problems
This article takes its data from a single source. Given all the other world city lists (see above) is this article necessary. In any case isn't there a Copyright issue of so much of the source data being copied here? If the article is regarded as being notable, should it not be cut right down to have a more appropriate number of entries? An 'agglomeration' is indicating a large urban area so 1 million for a cut-off is really low. Eldumpo (talk) 07:31, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

does mexico city include cuernavaca and toluca?
nice to see a list based on real cities for once, or at least close to it.

i have seem sources unclude these two areas on top of mexico city, i forget where i see it now im sure its a good site. the above definition for mexico city seems slightly too small to me, im thinking it should include at leasyt one of these metro areas. i know about the single source problems but im just wondering what mexicans or others familiar with the city think.

would people put san diego and tijuana together? again, theyre apart on the list but im siure theres some official-looking sources that have them together — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flapski (talk • contribs) 19:33, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Newcastle upon Tyne
Newcastle upon Tyne appears twice... -- Gl ou mo u t h 1 13:52, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * fixed. leaving the one that agrees with the article on Newcastle. Apuldram (talk) 15:19, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Length of list
I think the list is too long, and that there is no need to reproduce everything from the Citypopulation page. How about limiting the article to the top 75/ 5 million, as per the current break? Eldumpo (talk) 13:53, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Merger with List of urban areas by population
Should this article, List of agglomerations by population be merged with List of urban areas by population? The two articles appear to cover the same subject. Batternut (talk) 12:22, 2 November 2017 (UTC)


 * support merge. Batternut (talk) 15:07, 3 November 2017 (UTC)


 * support Propositum (talk) 10:58, 20 November 2017 (UTC)


 * support merge. Eldumpo (talk) 09:19, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * support merge. 174.92.70.237 (talk) 21:41, 18 January 2018 (UTC)