Talk:List of airlines banned in the European Union

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A note on the title: The European Community is a legal entity which is geographically identical with the European Union (but legally one of several distinguishable parts, or pillars of the EU), and since the latter is a more widely known and used title it seems more logical to use it. --Oden 20:08, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Questions

 * What are ther criterias of banning?
 * News needed about banning old Russaian planes —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikilangelo (talk • contribs) 14:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Six months later and there's still no clear explanation of why these carriers are banned from the EU. Seems like that would be an important part of the article. If any editors have an understanding of this, it'd be a helpful addition. 70.116.9.52 (talk) 16:27, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * bans can be based on concerns about safety, security, or basically whatever. One national authority (or the EU as a whole) can raise concerns and if enough people agree the airline or country gets banned, sometimes overnight. There is no set rules, sometimes the bans are seemingly purely political (like the current banning of all Russian and Belorussian airlines, and in the past the banning of Garuda Indonesia was largely economical (Germany complained because of strong competition between Garuda and Lufthansa on the profitable cargo routes to Asia, hiding the true motivation in concerns about safety of Indonesian aviation as a whole, when none of the accidents and incidents listed had any relations to operations of aircraft to and from Europe. I had contact with Garuda at the time, having just completed a contract for them to rebuild their cargo administration software, it came as a complete surprise to them). 2A02:A465:E6FB:1:D99D:D9AC:AC1C:2101 (talk) 06:40, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I have added an explanation under background. MilborneOne (talk) 18:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Information
The newest list is valid from April 11 2008: http://ec.europa.eu/transport/air-ban/pdf/list_en.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.214.122.25 (talk) 15:24, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Ariana
If Ariana is totally banned why does it have an A321 flight from Frankfurt? WhisperToMe (talk) 08:01, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to repeat my answer to the same question on Ariana Afghan Airlines for information - Ariana is using a Turkish-registered (TC-TUC) Bestair A321 on short lease. The eu document says Air carriers listed in Annex A could be permitted to exercise traffic rights by using wet-leased aircraft of an air-carrier which is not subject to an operating ban, provided that the relevant safety standards are complied with. MilborneOne (talk) 18:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Source
I just noticed this one Yahoo which might be helpful to the article. Afro Gold  - Afkatk 00:46, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of article as it currently is largely a mere list, not an encyclopedia article
The article should be re-written in terms suitable for an entry in an encyclopedia. It needs to give real information about the list and related topics, with citations, rather than really acting as a mirror for it, and a potentially permanently outdated one at that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.105.29.228 (talk) 16:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Syrianair?
Syrianair haven't flown to the EU since July 2012, and its not on the EU Airline Blacklist, how come it's not listed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.89.97.80 (talk) 02:18, 29 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Well probably as you just said it is not on the blacklist so it is not banned. MilborneOne (talk) 11:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

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Ukraine?
Why does the map show Ukraine as "Some airlines banned", when none are listed. Mirza Ahmed (talk) 09:19, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 12 October 2019

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move. Jerm (talk) 01:46, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

List of air carriers banned in the European Union → List of airlines banned in the European Union – This article lists airlines that are banned in the European Union, and the word 'airline' is used much more commonly than 'air carrier'. 64222368Z260O (talk) 04:09, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose not all the "air carriers" on the list are airlines. MilborneOne (talk) 08:23, 12 October 2019 (UTC)


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Consistent links
Why do some parts link to the list of airlines in a country, while other parts link to the country itself? Which link type is preferred, or are the links different on purpose? ElToAn123 (talk) 01:44, 2 December 2021 (UTC)