Talk:List of ambassadors of Serbia

Merger proposal
This list is almost the same as the one at the List of diplomatic missions of Serbia article. The only difference is that this one shows whether the ambassador is Chargé d'Affaires a.i. or ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary. This data can be transfered to the List of diplomatic missions of Serbia. There is no need for two such similar articles. See: WP:MergeOver. Vanjagenije (talk) 20:47, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * This is the difference between the main article that covers a few subjects lightly and the spin-off article that concentrates on one of the subjects in detail. Not to mention that this list includes the list of other diplomatic representatives.--Avala (talk) 21:00, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe You shoul see WP:AVOIDSPLIT. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * What about it? It doesn't refer to this situation as there is nothing unnecessary here. On a side not - spending your energy and the whole day in an attempt to delete something on Wikipedia is not forward thinking, you should direct it to creating new articles and expanding the current ones.--Avala (talk) 21:49, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The way I'm spending my day is certainly not an argument against merging pages. Vanjagenije (talk) 07:53, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It is if the proposals are made out of boredom and not based on real need.--Avala (talk) 10:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Tentative oppose (as in I oppose the merge)
 * There are two issues at play - do we keep List of Ambassadors from Serbia, or incorporate the information into [[Diplomatic missions of Serbia? We have similar lists of ambassadors for other countries, so I don't see why Serbia cannot have its own.
 * For Diplomatic missions of Serbia Avala is seeking to present data in a table format, which includes heads of mission. I am opposed to this format because:
 * (a) almost all the other diplomatic missions by sending country follow a different format
 * (b) I do not believe there is sufficient will to reformat 200+ articles just because a limited number of editors with narrow interests (in Avala's case, Serbia) and who have not contributed to the articles generally have a preferred style.
 * (c) the scope of these articles concern diplomatic missions, not their personel.
 * (d) it would be onerous on editors to ensure the details of every single head of mission is kept current.
 * (e) having duplicate styles would be contrary to the spirit, if not the letter, of WP:RETAIN. And it doesn't look nice either.
 * I have discussed this matter with Avala on Talk:List of diplomatic missions of Serbia, and while atmospherics are calm we are not much closer to resolving an outcome.
 * There may be value in starting a new category "List of Ambassadors by sending country", focussed on ambassadors and other representatives rather than missions. Already there is a mish-mash of related articles, such as List of heads of missions from the Dominican Republic and List of ambassadors to Angola.  The recently banned Russavia created a number of Russia-related articles like List of Ambassadors of Russia to the United States and List of Ambassadors of Singapore to Russia.  We just need the community to set some standards.  Kransky (talk) 11:45, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with You, and if your proposition is upheld, than there would be no need for merging those pages.Vanjagenije (talk) 16:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

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