Talk:List of anime series by episode count/Archive 1

Naruto
With regard to Naruto, the main series under that name is technically no longer in production; however if you are saying it is based on the continuation in Shipuuden, then I think you should include those episodes in the episode count. --Kraftlos (talk) 09:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. It is confusing at least to say Naruto is not in production any more. --Drizzd (talk) 20:17, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Similarly, if we're going to distinguish between seasons with a separate name and different characters; Pokemon should be split up into the five or six separate "Pokemon - subtitle of whatever the hell we're doing this year goes here" series since essentially those separations are roughly equivalent to naruto vs. naruto shippuden. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.55.51.24 (talk) 02:53, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The problem is that, at least insofar as anime is concerned, the distinction between seasons and sequels is rather hairy and often takes someone close to the series in question to clarify. That, and we haven't really figured out just how we're dealing with such cases here yet... (perhaps we should base it off of how the series is marketed - a continuation, or a separate series? But that still raises issues of its own...) 「ダイノ ガイ 千 ？！」(Dinoguy1000) 18:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * In Naruto's case, there is a clear definition between the two. Not only do they deal with different events, but there is a clear end and a clear beginning between the two. Shippuden is clearly marketed as a sequal, not the same as 'regular' Naruto Dandy Sephy (talk) 18:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, though, most series can't play ball like Naruto does, which leads to problems like how to treat Pokemon (with a bat, but I digress =D ). 「ダイノ ガイ 千 ？！」(Dinoguy1000) 18:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, totally agree. But those two examples name themselves 'series' 2. I can't speak for pokemon, but stuff like Geass and Gundam 00 are good examples of when to put both together. But its irrelevant really, neither of those examples would even make the list :p We definately need an experienced editor who is familiar with pokemon to give some input. Dandy Sephy (talk) 18:48, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, I know (about them not making the list), they're just the two I was thinking about at the time. 「ダイノ ガイ 千 ？！」(Dinoguy1000) 18:49, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Episode lists?
Should episode lists be linked to, when they exist? And if so, how should they be linked? (I'd be preferential towards linking from the number of episodes) — Dino guy  1000  17:51, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think so, and I agree with linking the number of episodes. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me, too. --Masamage ♫ 03:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * All right, then, I'll throw in some links in a minute. Feel free to add more if I happen to miss some... — Dino guy  1000  18:14, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

OVAs
We need some assistance fleshing-out this section. If you are aware of some lengthy OVAs, as well as sources for this information, please help out. Thanks! ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Do we want to include ONAs in this list, or create another one? ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:40, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I ask because Magical Play has 22 episodes. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Why not? I see no reason not to include them, and I seriously doubt there will be enough to support a stand-alone list, so I'd say create a new section for them here. — Dino guy  1000  17:26, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

What about manga?
Should we create a similar list for manga series, and if so, how should it work? — Dino guy  1000  17:41, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * About like this. --Masamage ♫ 19:14, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I was aware of that list, I was referring to a list of the longest[-running] manga series. ;) — Dino guy  1000  15:58, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I would support such a list. I believe Kochikame would top the list. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:51, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ...closely followed by Golgo 13 (can't believe I actually remembered that). *updates anime list with Kochikame* What should we call such a list? I'd suggest "List of longest-running manga series", but that's unnecessarily ambiguous, suggests the list covers span of publication when it would probably actually cover length (number of tankōbon, chapters or pages?), and doesn't match the naming of this list anyways. Perhaps, then, "List of manga series by [volume/chapter/page] count"? And what should the threshold for inclusion be? — Dino guy  1000  18:03, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and started the list at List of manga series by volume count, with the current cutoff at 35 volumes (I was debating 30 for a while, but decided to up it at the last minute; we can always adjust it later if need be). I'm currently debating whether it should also list [light] novels, any thoughts? (note that I'm cross-posting an announcement on the project talk page as well) — Dino guy  1000  21:45, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Nintama Rantarō
Hi, I stumbled across this list. It claims Nintama Rantarō to have over 1000 episodes. However, the only source is in Japanese, so I am unable to verify this. -- Goodraise (talk) 16:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The main article's infobox says it has 1,219 episodes as of November 13, 2008; I have the distinct feeling, though, that this is actually a vignette count, with each episode being comprised of 2 or more shorter vignettes. ANN would seem to confirm this, as they only list 683 titles (though it's worth pointing out that the last episode on their list is dated October 22, 2004, and based on the ep release/air dates given, it seems to be released on a daily schedule... so actually, these could be full half-hour episodes). Vignettes or no, though, this series is definitely long enough to make the list - it's just an issue of which episode count to use (I'm going to go with ANN's count for now, and if someone can point out a source for the >1000 count, we can update it as such). — Dino guy  1000  21:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The NHK site lists all the episodes by "series" (there are 16 "series" in the series), for a total of 1303 episodes. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * All right, cool. That should also make it pretty easy for a full episode list to be created here (and provide the perfect places to split the list into sublists), if anyone cares to undertake all the repetitive copy-paste work it would entail. — Dino guy  1000  18:39, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I've pasted a bunch of information to Talk:List of Nintama Rantarō episodes. I'll see when I can get to formatting, translating, and transliterating it unless someone else beats me to it. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:09, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Digimon episodes
While the series are somehow connected, they are different anime productions. Each series have commonly 50 episodes. Their relation is more of a spin-off and have different names, although the second anime is a direct sequel to the first. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 01:21, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree, they shouldn't be on the list as one series. I have removed it. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:58, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Look here though, Digimon seasons 1-4 were exclusively called only 'Digimon' outside of Japan. That would be at least 200 episodes. The fifth season, titled Digimon Data Squad outside of Japan, is the first two have a different title. No point in removing it for this reason, since Wikipedia does go on the names from the English version, and since all have the name 'Digimon', they should be included in this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.176.134.153 (talk) 00:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It doesn't matter what they were called outside of Japan for the purposes of this list, though. This list goes by the original production. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:31, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Ojamajo Doremi...?
I just gave this a quick glance, but it seems to be that the Ojamajo Doremi series isn't listed here. Unlike the Pretty Cure franchies, Ojamajo Doremi was a long on-going tv series that were interconnected. All 4 TV series and 1 OVA (Although, technically is now considered a "Tv" series due to airing first as such) are all related to each other and are not self contained. As a result, it's 201 episodes long. 214 if you include Na-i-sho, which takes place between Motto! and Dokkaan. Considering Sailor Moon was also listed here despite being divided up into several series, I think Doremi should also be listed here. I would've added it myself, but I thought I'd run it through here first. Mendinso (talk) 14:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * According to the article, you're right, and I'll add it in a minute. However, the OVA doesn't have enough episodes to list here (it has 13, 15 epsidoes are necessary). — Dino guy  1000  21:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know that Sailor Moon should be listed as each series is self-contained (though watching the other series certainly enhances the enjoyability). The same goes with Ojamajo Doremi. Each series has a self-contained story. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * They're not self contained, as they are directly linked to each other. I already explained this. If they were really self contained, they would not constantly reference the past series and wouldn't make notes of events that have happened, in which sometimes the events influence the next series. Infact, Ojamajo Doremi Sharp takes place about a day after the first series, the second and third series takes not long after each other (since the girls are upset over an issue that happened at the end of Sharp), and Motto's ending is what leads into Dokkaan~!. To say they're self contained is not true. If anything, Sailor Moon is slightly more self contained, but it's still an on going story. Mendinso (talk) 08:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, according to that logic, then, Naruto and Naruto: Shippuuden (and Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z) are also not self-contained, since they are even more closely linked to each other than the four seasons of Ojamajo Doremi. This is all rather confusing... =P — Dino guy  1000  19:27, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you are misunderstanding the meaning of "self-contained". "Self-contained" does not mean that the stories aren't related, or that they don't happen in close succession. What it does mean is that you could take any one of those series, watch them, and they would contain a story that stands on its own without requiring viewing of any of the others. Yes, viewing the others would certainly enhance your enjoyment and understanding of the each one, but it's certainly not required to understand any specific series.
 * What you need to understand is that they are separate series. Closely related series, but separate. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 08:16, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I want to reopen this discussion. Apparently the only reason for Sailor Moon not being listed is that each season is its own story. This is true, but they are still all part of one anime, and it has 200 episodes in total and therefore belongs on the list. In Azumanga Daioh every episode is its own self-contained story, but you wouldn't describe it as 26 distinct series containing one episode each, would you? 91.105.37.45 (talk) 21:42, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Was each season of Sailor Moon a separate production (a la InuYasha vs. InuYasha: Final Act), or did they lead into each other (a la Code Geass vs. Code Geass: R2, or Mobile Suit Gundam 00 season 1 vs. Mobile Suit Gundam 00 season 2) (and no, I'm not talking in terms of plot)? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 16:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * They were each a self-contained story, with little story crossover between series. They were separate productions, too, and are listed as separate series in all the Japanese reference materials I have. The main characters for each of them was the same (Usagi, Ami, Rei, Makoto, Minako, and Mamoru), with a couple new ones being added as things progressed. They are separate anime series, though. There's not really an equivalent I can think of outside of Japan for how they were set up. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:24, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Dragon Ball
drgon bll hd more episodes, plese chnge it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.139.96.8 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Dragon Ball didn't have more episodes, actually. There are three Dragon Ball TV series, and each one has a different episode count. They are not combined. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:36, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * In addition, Kai is an edited rerelease, so doesn't really qualify as a separate series (regardless of whether it has its own episode list) nor are its episodes counted in addition to DBZ. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 16:43, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If dragonball is seen as 3 seperate series, why is pokemon not seen as several different series? Taketa (talk) 18:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * See, below. -- as 72.251.164.58 (talk) 07:25, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Dragonball and Dragonball Z wernt seperate series though, uninterrupted production and airing, the 'Z' moniker was only added for the Western audience. WatcherZero (talk) 18:11, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Chi's Sweet Home
Chi's Sweet Home seems to currently have 208 episodes, counting both seasons (as discussed about Naruto and such above). Shouldn't it count? -- Shadikka 14:08, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Are both seasons considered to be parts of the same anime series? If so, feel free to add it. =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 19:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Pokemon
Why is the Pokemon series said to have over 600+ episodes when it is split into leagues? Aren't these simply different series? I'm asking becuase the Naruto franchise is not combined and the Pokemon episodes are. NarSakSasLee (talk) 20:06, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * From what I have seen of the Pokemon anime (which, admittedly, isn't much beyond the first two or three seasons), it all seems to be one series plot- and character-wise; the "leagues" that the series is split into mostly seem to correspond to major arcs or legs of Ash's travels. it probably needs further review regardless, though. On the other hand, Naruto is split because even the manga was split by the timeskip into two parts, and the anime series have always been treated separately from each other in all the media I've seen concerning them. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 17:26, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The anime is officially split into three series, "Pocket Monsters" (276 episodes), "Pocket Monsters Advanced Generation" (192 episodes) and "Pocket Monsters Diamond & Pearl" (171 episodes and currently running). Combining all three into one franchise isn't illogical, but doing so while keeping the different "Naruto", "Dragonball", "Ranma 1/2" and "Sailor Moon" series (and probably a couple others, too) separate makes no sense. The situation is exactly the same with these as the Pokemon anime.134.129.205.173 (talk) 07:54, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If this can be shown with reliable sources, I have no problem splitting it into three different entries. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 04:12, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Gurren Laggan
it is an anime series that is not on the list that has 27 episodes and a movie. why is it not on the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.64.116.102 (talk) 21:01, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * TV series must have 150 episodes to be on the list. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 23:26, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Where is Sailor Moon?
The series contains 200 episodes - granted, they are in different seasons, but so is Pokemon, which is also listed here. It has 200 episodes. And if someone is going to type INTO THE CODING 'please do not put sailor moon here' then please explain why here, so that other wiki=ers don't question their authority. 141.154.65.141 (talk) 04:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)Talk to akethy
 * See above. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 05:59, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sailor Moon is a weird show, the seasons, are really just the same thing, just labeled for different arcs. Kind of like a subtext of how DBZ likes to label it's arcs by 'Frieza, Namek, Android, Cell' ETC. I believe that the entire series should be considered to put as it's own thing, mainly because it seems like the actual 'seasons' are actually connected then them being stand alone. --173.29.89.118 (talk) 03:37, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Katanagatari
Is there any reason why this is listed as an OVA? The show aired on BS Fujii for it initial premiere. It just was aired on TV every month instead of every week. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.171.23.141 (talk) 03:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Absolutely no reason. Removed. LukaMillfy (talk) 10:45, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Why only top 56
why only top 56 anime's by episodes. has anyone considered expanding it to a top 100, it would be very useful--Misconceptions2 (talk) 17:16, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree. 56 is an odd number to base this article on. NarSakSasLee (talk) 20:13, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not a top 50, 100, etc. It's based on series that have at least 150 episodes. This keeps the article concise. ~ Hibana (talk) 03:03, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly. There is no set number of series for this list; the "membership" in the list is governed by the number of episodes the series has. Simple as that. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 07:04, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Hunter x Hunter
Why are the three Hunter x Hunter OVAs counted as one since others have separate entries for sequel series (Naruto, Galactic Heroes)? --Mika1h (talk) 23:26, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

The usefulness of this list
What is the purpose of separating franchises by series? It seems completely counter-intuitive and not very useful. For example, if you wanted to know what animes had a large number of episodes, you would expect the list to include ALL episodes for each anime. Why else would you view this page? At the very least, this should link to another page that actually includes this useful information... Doomsday31415 (talk) 03:17, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree, the list should be according to franchise not series or seasons. There is too much confusion what is considered a separate series. For example Hunter x Hunter OVAs and Gintama TV series' are counted as one but Naruto and Pokemon are listed as separate. --Mika1h (talk) 10:10, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I made a separate page for total episodes by franchise series. List of anime series by series total episode count. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 04:26, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Now THAT'S more like what I'd expect to see! Thank you!  Kinda funny that Sailor Moon only BARELY made it on the list, though. Doomsday31415 (talk) 01:07, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Reduce the number of series displayed to make it more manageable
As suggested Here. Why: Hei Liebrecht 09:44, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Shorter list would make it easier to maintain it.
 * It would be more accurate and up-to-date.
 * Will eliminate any disputable series that's listed here.
 * I agree that a shorter list would be better to handle. But, how shorter? The top 50 suggested by DragonZero or do you have any other suggestion? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 04:26, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * There is 160 entries for TV series. This could be shortened by counting only shows with over 200 or more episodes, thus cutting the list entries to mere 50-60 (counting Ongoing shows). Hei Liebrecht  04:35, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It's okay to raise the minimum to 200. However, it would be good to note in the prose of any series below 200 episodes that set some sort of record for number of episodes, well, before Sazae blew it out of the water. -AngusWOOF (talk) 16:49, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * With the general television episode count at 150, I'm rethinking this isn't necessary to trim more than that. -AngusWOOF (talk) 01:12, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * With just 160 entries and a fairly simple table, what specifically makes the list "hard to maintain". Most of the entries aren't going to change as they are no longer in production (only 15 entries are still active)? —Farix (t &#124; c) 18:27, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You didn't read the archived discussion, or you would see that I made this proposal especially because this list isn't very accurate, and thus not up-to-date. I used MyAnimeList's advance search option that time and found many shows that are missing in this list (not including Ongoing series). Note: MAL's advance search feature is currently having problems. Hei Liebrecht  23:33, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Ugh, why are we using MAL when it's on the WP:ANIME/RS as not reliable? They also do weird things like count omake chapters/episodes as full ones. -AngusWOOF (talk) 01:12, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * So the list isn't "hard to maintain" because it is "too long". It is more a matter that no one is maintaining it in the first place. Reducing the number of entries on the list isn't going to fix that problem. —Farix (t &#124; c) 11:11, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * P.S The only thing I saw that would make the list difficult to maintain was the "rankings" column, which I just removed. Not only would the column need to be updated when new entries are added, but they were often inaccurate to begin with. Specifically when there were multiple series that had the exact same episode count. —Farix (t &#124; c) 11:59, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * No reason to remove valid information from a list just because its long. Even if you reduced the list in size, it doesn't mean anyone is going to go through and update the episode numbers if they aren't doing it now.  Most of the things on the list aren't in production anymore, so the episode count isn't going to need updating anyway.   D r e a m Focus  00:01, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * As with List of television programs by episode count, I suggest adding start and end date columns, where current series can have the green shaded "present (as of 2014-07-24)". Also a reference column to the resource that shows the current count and/or footnotes to the calculation would be useful. -AngusWOOF (talk) 16:03, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I was thinking starting and ending dates would be useful, but I don't support a separate column for just references/footnotes. —Farix (t &#124; c) 18:09, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * That's true, it doesn't need the separate column, as that would require all episode counts to be referenced on that page instead of letting it just be the number with optional footnotes where it needs further explanation beyond what the article link would provide. -AngusWOOF (talk) 18:31, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

A good idea that went wrong
this was a good idea that went wrong; turning into a list of every anime on the planet. It also excluded anime with major significance (sailor moon mainly) under the sole reason of not liking sailor moon. Shows with multiple titles/seasons were often mistakenly labled as seperate shows (of which teh origional author's reasoning was quite laughable). THere was also no format determining which shows made the list and which didn't. All this resulted in people adding random shows that do not matter/removing shows that matter and adding overall incorrect information.

To correct his, i have reformatted the list. By merging shows with multiple seasons (expanding an origional storyline), removing shows that do not make the ANN top 500 in some way shape or form, and limiting the episode count to 48 (a regular anime season in japan) i hope to have corrected any problems with this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.50.42 (talk • contribs) 05:01, 1 February 2015

I am trying to make changes, and idiots keep reversing the page back to its garbage state. i have lodged a complaint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goshinkisfang (talk • contribs) 14:29, 1 February 2015


 * You do realize there is already a List of anime franchises by episode count -AngusWOOF (talk) 22:38, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

i realize that now, after painstakingly trying to edit the "list of anime franchise by episode count" that existed since last night. it was complete garbage and had lots of complaints. w/e. that other page seems to have done what i was trying to accomplish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goshinkisfang (talk • contribs) 22:59, 1 February 2015 ‎

this is a losing battle. people complain because you try to make page with every anime ever made in one list; then they complain when you try to fix it. w/e done caring. did my part; thanks for wasting hours of my time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goshinkisfang (talk • contribs) 23:11, 1 February 2015 ‎


 * Your concerns might be a taken more seriously if you didn't have such a terrible attitude and approached it properly. It's no wonder people would take your edits, and your attitude to be unhelpful SephyTheThird (talk) 02:02, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Concur, Goshinkisfang focus on the edits, not the editor per No personal attacks (WP:NPA). --220  of  Borg 17:51, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 01 February 2015

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The result of the move request was: page moved. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 06:23, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

List of Anime Series by Episode Count → List of anime series by episode count – Per WP:TITLEFORMAT. Disruptive editor has moved this page around multiple times and it is now impossible to fix without admin rights – —Farix (t &#124; c) 23:23, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). Landingdude13 (talk) 23:53, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Support. Hm, seems pretty obvious to me that it's the correct. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 01:37, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Close the article has already been moved.--65.94.252.196 (talk) 21:54, 2 February 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.