Talk:List of art schools in Europe

Cross linking to fr wikipedia, etc
This seems a little odd. We have Académie Julian in English, why are we linking to French Wikipedia? -- Kendrick7talk 02:34, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Inclusion criteria?
Without some clearly agreed inclusion criteria, this list needs some severe pruning to remove redlinks and external links to websites per WP:EL and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. See also WP:HD.--ukexpat (talk) 13:34, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Removal of entries
I see that a large number of entries have been removed from this list by. I haven't seen, and can't guess at, any reason for doing that. Has there been any discussion of the proposed changes? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:34, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, there have been some red link entries which have been deleted. Most, however, have been moved to (merged with) List of art universities and colleges in Europe. Both articles needed much to work. Now at least the latter is in a little bit more coherent state. Chicbyaccident (talk) 12:39, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

This page lists schools at or above higher (tertiary) undergraduate education, despite claims to the contrary.
At the top of the page it says "This is a list of art schools in Europe, containing art schools below higher (tertiary) undergraduate education." When I follow the link to see what "higher (tertiary)" education means, I read "Higher education is tertiary education leading to award of an academic degree. Higher education, also called post-secondary education, third-level or tertiary education, is an optional final stage of formal learning that occurs after completion of secondary education" If this list is to contain schools *below* that level, then it follows that it is referring to "secondary" education or even lower, which is not for a degree and, following the link for "secondary" education extends no further than 19 years of age. But I took a not so random sampling of schools in this list: I followed the link to *every* school listed in the Netherlands (that have links); and as far as I can tell they all appear to be universities for degrees or higher education with no mention of any secondary or "below higher" education offered at any of them.

Further, this page also says "However, it does exclude (1) institutions of (tertiary) higher education (instead listed in List of art universities and colleges in Europe)" but if I go to this link 10 out of the 16 links on this page for the Netherlands also appear on that page as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.194.248.92 (talk) 03:22, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The text in the lead section specifying pre-tertiary schools was introduced by in this edit, who had earlier added an equivalent hatnote here. These changes were not discussed here, and they do not reflect the earlier content of the list.
 * The criterion may have been added to distinguish this list from List of art universities and colleges in Europe. It is reasonable to have separate lists for pre-tertiary and tertiary institutions, but the name of this article does not indicate this. The Art school and List of art schools articles include university-level institutions.
 * We should either merge this article with List of art universities and colleges in Europe, or rename this article to make clear what it represents. 'List of pre-tertiary art schools in Europe' is awkward and jargony.
 * My preferred solution is to rename the article to 'List of secondary-level art schools in Europe', delete the primary-level art schools (if there are any), and to merge the tertiary-level schools into the other list. To do this we would have to delete any unlinked and unsourced schools. Verbcatcher (talk) 22:36, 14 December 2021 (UTC)