Talk:List of authors of names published under the ICZN

Steve Irwin
Would it be correct to list him among these people, or is there some difference between the zoologists listed here and the type of zoologist he was? Also, his wife Terry might be listed here as well. 86.45.103.251 (talk) 16:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * This is intended to be a list of authors of scientific names of animals, although the intro doesn't make that clear. If Steve or Terry described any new species, they should be here.--Curtis Clark (talk) 05:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Mysteries
I figure this is as good a place as any to post mysteries as I find them. Can we find these people?


 * Ablan -- initials GL, active 1930s, fish (Philippines)
 * Abramov - initials AA, active 1980s-1990s, fish (south Atlantic)
 * Akasaki - initial M, active 1960s-1990s, fish (Japan, New Caledonia)
 * Babu Rao - initial M, active 1960s-1970s, fish (India)
 * Carmichael -- initials DN?, active 1810s, fish (south Atlantic)
 * Dimick - initials MF, active 1940s, fish (United States)
 * Fedoryako -- initials BI, active 1970s, 1970s, fish (Russia)
 * Gratzianov -- initials VI or VJ?, active 1900s, fish (Russia)
 * Kulkarni - initials CV, active 1940s-1970s, fish (India)
 * Lovetsky - initial A, active 1820s, fish (Russia)
 * Penrith -- initials MJ, active 1960s, 1970s, marine life (South Africa)

Thanks! -- Miwa * talk * contribs ^_^ 06:27, 30 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll add mine too. Rivero, active 1960s, South American frog Atelopus ebenoides Anyone know his full name? Rmhermen 17:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks like it must be Juan A. Rivero who has a zoo is named after in Puerto Rico but has no article on Wikipedia - yet. Should he be added to this list? Rmhermen 18:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd say go ahead. Any idea on dates? -- Miwa * talk * contribs ^_^ 00:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

There seem to be two Tytlers, one listed here who worked on reptiles in the 1850s, and another one (might be Sir H.C. Tytler if Google did not mislead me) working on butterflies in the 1910s. Is the same abbreviation used for both? andy 13:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

What is this list?
These are not author abbreviations, so could you clarify on the article page what exactly it is about? These are surnames or family names. Author abbreviations are what are done in botany, and because the ICZN explicitly states that surnames or family names should not be abbreviated, having an article titled "list of zoologists by author abbreviation" which isn't such a list, is confusing. Please just add some sort of note explaining this is a list of surnames, with the given name abbreviated or anything that makes it clear what it is. Also, you link to binomial nomenclature without any explanation, and, again, as this has nothing to do ICZN, it's a confusing link. KP Botany 19:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I changed it to reflect what it actually is. I think it needs moved also, and the title changed, because these are not author abbreviations, but without the link to "author abbreviations," which aren't that, it might stand as is. KP Botany 18:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

It's nice that somebody has compiled this information, but who compiled it and what is the official source for this information? There seems to be overlap between this list and a list in wikispecies http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Catalog:Taxon_Authorities/A. The wikispecies list seems to combine botanists and zoologists and it seems to have some names that don't appear in either the botanist or zoologist list in wikipedia. The wikispecies catalog links back to wikipedia but wikipedia doesn't seem to link to wikispecies. It might be nice if there were some words and links that explained what is the more "official list" or maybe even better the lists should be combined. As an aside, I thought that a list might exist like this but I had a hard time finding it.Davefoc (talk) 01:34, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Unless someone can come up with (1) a rationale, and (2) references for this list in the next few days, I plan to take it to WP:AFD.--Curtis Clark (talk) 13:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Go for it. If you look at the very first edits here, it looks like it was intended to be a simple surname index.  Subsequently it may have morphed into something else using WP:OR.  –Moondyne 05:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * More sensible to move it as a WikiProject subpage for WikiProject Animals. This is a useful resource. No point deleting the information. Move it out of wiki namespace if you feel it doesn't belong there. Its not OR as its just a compilation of links. Plus its under an Indexing WikiProject. Make sure you discuss it there before deleting. See also User:VirenVaz/Taxonomists.AshLin (talk) 17:02, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Now placed under WPr Animals too. Please post there before AFD too. AshLin (talk) 17:17, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Title should be changed
There are no author abbreviations in the list, the title is incorrect.--FranciscoWelterSchultes (talk) 23:56, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Name change or AFD?
I think this article should be moved to List of authors of names published under the ICZN or some such. That's the only purpose of the article--otherwise it's just a random list of zoologists, and should be deleted.

Referencing the article is problematic; unlike List of botanists by author abbreviation, where there is a single reference, it would seem that each entry in this list needs a separate reference. I'll leave it to others to figure out how that would work in practice.--Curtis Clark (talk) 16:06, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Seeing no objection, I made the move.--Curtis Clark (talk) 16:29, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

about "Müllers"
Dear Editors!

I noticed that in enwiki articles (and therefore in other Wikipedias as well) in some of the infoboxes of animals not the proper zoologist's name is shown.

For example in the article List of authors of names published under the ICZN.

Salomon Müller (1804–1864) is shown as "S. Müller", while Johannes Peter Müller (1801–1858) is simply "Müller". However, in many articles the "Müller" link points to "Salomon Müller".

I think that the link "Müller" should refer to "Salomon Müller". There are two examples for it: Exilisciurus; Celebes Dwarf Squirrel.

The following zoologists can be found in their list:


 * Müller – Johannes Peter Müller (1801–1858) mainly fish
 * O.F.Müller – Otto Friedrich Müller (1730–1784) insects, fauna of Scandinavia
 * P.L.S.Müller, Müller – Philipp Ludwig Statius Muller (1725–1776) birds, insects, some mammals and others
 * S.Müller – Salomon Müller (1804–1864) mainly fauna of Indonesia

DenesFeri (talk) 07:53, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I see that no one cares. DenesFeri (talk) 08:56, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I care! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:57, 21 February 2018 (UTC).

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Pusch
Need a full name for this guy, author of Cebus albifrons trinitatis Pusch 1942. I think it's A. von Pusch, but I don't know if this is correct, nor the full name. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:02, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Found it! BHL has the reference. It's Botho von Pusch. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:38, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course, that only leads to questions like "ok, so who is he?" I find a Botho Hermann Siegfried von Pusch (1914-1945) on ancestry.com that could be a match, but this isn't conclusive. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:45, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The German wiki has a Botho von Pusch who is the grandfather of the Botho I found on ancestry. I left a query on the talk of that page to see if anyone can confirm that I have the right guy. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:27, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Kollman
Need the full name of this guy. Author of Microcebus griseorufus and Acomys chudeaui. UtherSRG (talk) 12:31, 7 November 2022 (UTC)