Talk:List of automobile manufacturers of the United States

U.S. car?
What is the criterion to identify a car as a "U.S. car"? Toyota is made in USA, and so is Honda. Are these "U.S. cars"?

It is somewhat easier to say what is NOT included in this list. It does not include foreign brands that are currently owned by a U.S. company (such as Holden, Volvo, etc). It also does not include foreign brands that have manufacturing branches here (Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, BMW, formerly Rolls-Royce, etc). The trickier cases are when all the production is in Country A, but the brand is only sold in Country B (i.e. Merkur), or where production and headquarters are in 2 different countries (i.e. DeLorean). In these cases, marques have been placed on lists for where the production occurs, so as not to have the same marque on 2 different lists, as these lists are quite lengthy already. SimonX (talk) 16:48, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Propose the scope of this list be "brands with manufacturing plant in USA". The Toyota Sienna and Toyota Avalon are cars that are developed, made, and sold only in the US (sold in Canada too). Chrysler on the other hand is now a subsidiary of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles. Also the expectation of anyone coming to this list is that it's about actual cars produced in some quantity that can be licensed and driven on the public road. --Cornellier (talk) 02:13, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Duesenberg
Duesenberg is mentioned under the heading of minor current US automakers, with dates listed from 2007 to present.

However, following the link provided to its wiki page yields the following information in the summary: Duesenberg (Duesy) was an Auburn, Indiana based luxury automobile company active in various forms from 1913 to 1937, most famous for its high-quality, record-breaking roadsters. (Emphasis mine.)

I believe that the Duesenburg's mention, while certainly appropriate for a general list, should be moved out of current US automakers, and into a more appropriate list. MightyHunter9 (talk) 20:47, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

The Duesenberg included in the minor current U.S. automakers really only shares its name with the older one from the 20's and 30's. It is another attempt to revive the storied name. SimonX (talk) 16:48, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Date Corrections
I think the dates need to be corrected for some of these brands. I know for a fact that Jeep is incorrectly marked by 23 years. This is their 70th year that they are celebrating. That means that the brand was actually started in 1941 (as noted on available Jeep apparel). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.206.68.53 (talk • contribs) 21:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

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Tesla as a Major Automobile Manufacturer
Tesla shipped over 100,000 units last year, and also became one of the leading auto brands in the luxury car space. With production continuing to rise into the 100s of thouasands each year, shouldn’t Tesla be reclassified as a major automaker? If not, at what point does it become a major automaker? It’s odd to put a company shipping thousands of vehicles a week with Elio Motors that hasn’t shipped a single car. There ought to be some discussion on what a major and a minor automaker is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.144.210 (talk) 19:36, 22 February 2019 (UTC)


 * According to their articles, Ford sold 2.6 million vehicles in the US in 2016 for 14% of the US market, General Motors sold 9.6 million in 2017 and Chrysler sold 1.8 million in 2013. 0.1 million is 6% of the smallest of the big three. Tesla gets a lots of newspaper inches and might (or might not) be the way of the future but at the moment it can only be classified as the top of the minor players.  Stepho  talk 00:38, 23 February 2019 (UTC)


 * FCA's US sales were 2.2 million units, GM's was 2.9 million, and Ford's was about 2.5 million last year. Tesla's was 0.24 million, so it's obviously not in the same group. Besselfunctions (talk) 19:08, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Stellantis
Stellantis is not a US company. Should that preclude them on this list at all? Devinserpa (talk) 15:29, 11 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Bit of a grey area really. Stellantis is technically a multinational. But with a major part of it being formed from the Chrysler group of companies, it kind of counts as a US company. Aren't Chrysler vehicles still designed, built, marketed and sold in the same way as when they were purely a US company?  Stepho  talk 02:28, 12 September 2023 (UTC)