Talk:List of beaches in Hawaii

Oahu beaches
This list is NOT-complete There are at least 179 distinct beaches on Oahu.
 * Find me a source. I predict that the beaches you suggest are missing are merely subsets and synonyms of and for the larger beaches on the list.  There are 139 listed, so you are claiming that 40 aren't listed.  Can you provide a few names?  I'll bet they are landforms that are already classified under the current list. Viriditas (talk) 23:50, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, after reviewing this, I'm convinced I nailed the problem. There are probably more beaches, but the ones missing would indeed be subsets of the ones on the list.  It is perfectly acceptable, however, for those entries to have separate articles.  For this reason, I'm considering removing the "this list is complete" from all entries. Viriditas (talk) 14:33, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Notability tag
On 13:47, 20 April 2009, User:Jmcnamera added a notability tag to the article with the edit summary, "How is this notable? Most of these don't have wiki articles of their own."  Although this list is incomplete, all of the entries are found in the references at the bottom, and most (if not all) have extensive entries in their respective books. Perhaps Jmcnamera isn't familiar with Hawaiian geography, but every entry is a notable landform with a detailed history and cultural significance. Although they do not require actual articles on Wikipedia to qualify for inclusion, redlinks lacking articles can be redirected to larger landforms in their area. This works in some cases, but for most it does not. If Jmcnamera has any quesitons about the "notability" of these landforms, I would be happy to provide him with more information from the sources in the reference section. Viriditas (talk) 02:59, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Perhaps someone should probably add some text talking about how tourism is a large part of the economy, and the primary people come is for the beaches. And as I found out, several do have articles, just not the right titles, or linked. W Nowicki (talk) 04:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Beach names, locations and default order
How are the locations chosen? They seem to be a mixed bag of towns, moku, and neighborhoods. Perhaps we should add a column and put current terminology there, retaining traditional names in the existing location. Since many beaches have multiple names, should we include them all? Lfstevens (talk) 04:06, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely sure the location changes are helpful, so I'm considering reverting to the locations used by Clark. While they may be mixed, there is a reason for the mixture, usually because of rural areas that lie outside towns or neighborhoods, or some other reason.  I've removed the links you added because one of them was not allowed by the spam filter and they were both non-RS and didn't really help the article.  Column expansion to include multiple names is fine. Have at it.  If you want to take this article under your wing and make it your special project, let me know, and I'll help with whatever you need. Viriditas (talk) 10:32, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The article would be much more useful if it had online refs that allowed users to learn more. Since you rejected the couple I came up with, do you have any others that would serve? There's so much info online about Maui, I'd think there'd be something wp-ready. Lfstevens (talk) 14:44, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Some of Clark's material is available on Google Books. The examiner link you added tripped the spam filter.  When I added the reflist tag to show the refs you added, the filter screen came on, and removal was necessary. The second link you added didn't seem to help.  If you can tell me what kind of info you are trying to add, I can help. The Clark books already support it. Viriditas (talk) 21:30, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd like people to be able to jump to more info about the beaches. We have few articles on them, therefore lacking photos, maps, directions, history, restrictions, dangers, and amenities. Lfstevens (talk) 06:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Clark's books are fairly easy to get a hold of, and they have all the information you need except for good photos. County websites have good information on selected beaches, so be sure and check those out too.  You can start with Google Books. Viriditas (talk) 10:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)