Talk:List of best-selling albums/Archive 12

Michael Jackson BAD album sales.
I think wikipedia hasn't updated its database as regards the sales of Michael Jackson BAD album. According to Michael Jackson estate it has sold about 45 million units worldwide. Here are the sources - http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/21/entertainment-us-michaeljackson-bad-idUSBRE84K0Z120120521 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson_albums_discography
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: See this discussion and this previous discussion on why the 45 million claim is not used.-- Mαuri ’96 “  everything and nothing always haunts me…  ” 19:57, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

The Marshall Mathers LP
Here's the url saying the album has sold at least 21 million copies.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 12:09, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 August 2013
the information registered in sources [92] and [112] is wrong because according to the following sources I give you the album in source [92] has sold 30 million copies worldwide to date and the album in source [112] has sold 24 million copies worldwide to date. These data are cross-checked with other sources that's why I pray be recognized immediately.

79.131.149.18 (talk) 19:16, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Not done: Those sources do not seem to be related to one another and you haven't provided any other sources to dispute them (wikipedia articles are not reliable sources, but you can bring the reference they used here to make your point. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 21:42, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Vaughn Meader: The First Family
This is the ONLY non-musical album anywhere on this list. it was released in November 1962, and sold 7.5 million copies, far surpassing My Fair Lady (originally 2 million, eventually 5 million) and barely edged out by The Sound of Music five years later (8 million). http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/30/national/30meader.html?_r=0 "It has sold more than any other LP ever issued, more than 4,000,000 as of January 10., just about two months after it was first released" Billboard February 2, 1963 Will Sandberg (talk) 21:01, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 September 2013
This information has been changed and need to update the page with the changes: 1) ...Baby One More Time (album) has sold 30 millions copies worldwide 2) Oops!...I Did It Again! (album) has sold 24 millions copies worldwide These data are based on real sources in accordance with Wikipedia and I find the following link:

79.131.149.18 (talk) 12:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The sources on this page are more modern - the sources on the other page are the ones that need updating. -- Mdann 52   talk to me!  12:55, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Whitney Houston body guard vs Saturday night fever
Both claimed sales (45 million) and certificated sales (27.4 million) on the bodyguard soundtrack are higher then the Saturday night live soundtrack (40 million claimed and 18.9 million certificated) making the bodyguard the highest selling soundtrack album of all time. Meaning it sound be higher on the list then Saturday night fever and should be changed round. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.221.216.74 (talk) 14:35, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

BACKSTREET BOYS!!!!!
How have the 3 Backstreet Boys albums in this list decreased so rapidly???

Millennium sold 40 million. It at first decreased to 30 million, and now 24. There are plenty of sources out there claiming 40 million and they were on here not long ago.

The Backstreet Boys/Backstreets Back album is the one that sold 30 million and Black and Blue the one that sold 24 million.

The figures need restored — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.224.83.209 (talk) 20:01, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Shania twains Come on Over sales
Shania twain sold over 40 million copies in stead of the 39 mentioned:

http://tasteofcountry.com/shania-twains-come-on-over-turns-15/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luukiejj (talk • contribs) 00:50, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Goodbye Yellow Brick Road needs to be re-labeled
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road by Elton John is not a greatest hits or compilation album, but this article is saying it is. It should be changed to show that it is an original studio album.

72.196.111.69 (talk) 23:33, 4 December 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅.  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 00:41, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Thriller sales
With a boost from the video, Jackson's "Thriller" album became the biggest selling record in music history, with sales now reportedly topping more than 110 million. http://washingtoninformer.com/news/2013/dec/19/michael-jacksons-thriller-video-turns-30/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.179.131.105 (talk) 11:06, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Double Albums?
I'm confused by the paragraph: "As a result of the methodology that the American and Canadian certification-awarding bodies, the RIAA and Music Canada, use, each disc in a multi-disc set is counted as one unit toward certification, leading to many double albums on the list ... being certified with a number double the number of copies sold there. Such albums have the certifications for the number of copies, not discs, shipped indicated." Is a multi-disc album counted as a single unit in the list of sales in the article? It is stated that some certification bodies count the actual number of discs. Are those certified numbers halved for double albums in order to compile the lists in the articel? If so, how could this lead to many double albums in the lists? 49.181.236.148 (talk) 06:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Mariah Carey
Music Box is certified 12X Platinum in Australia -> http://www.aria.com.au/pages/httpwww.aria.com.aupageshttpwww.aria.com.aupageshttpwww.aria.com.auALBUMaccreds2011.htm - Thanks.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   16:26, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2014
For Meat Loafs number of albums of Bat out of hell has sold to 43 million: here is the source Meat loaf did sell, 35 milllion copies but during his 1980's touring he sold another 8 million which pushes it up to 43 million.

JoshwaaFilms (talk) 19:49, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ❌ I see what that source says, but it doesn't state where it gets the info from, and when I checked the official rating companies, it doesn't look like there was any significant changes that would warrant adding 9 million more records sold.

The Bodyguard soundtrack
According to Whitney Houston's official website The Bodyguard soundtrack has sold more than 42 million copies http://www.whitneyhouston.com/ca/biography — Preceding unsigned comment added by WhyHellWhy (talk • contribs) 21:07, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

elton john
Can someone please explain why elton johns greatest hits, which has sold more than 32 million copies is not on this list? Regards tony 203.184.55.78 (talk) 06:28, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2014
Cher's album Believe has certified sales of over 25 million copies, but is not included in the list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Believe_(Cher_album)

Spencalove (talk) 22:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. First, you can't use another Wikipedia article as a source. Second, the article you claim backs your story says "accumulated worldwide sales of 20 million copies.[2]" which does not back your claim of "over 25 million" — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 01:25, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Shania twains Come on Over sales
The claimed sales of Shania Twain come on over album are 40 million copies in stead of the 39 mentioned:

http://tasteofcountry.com/shania-twains-come-on-over-turns-15/

And the certified sales also aren't right:

20 million in the US (as stated) 2 million in Canada (as stated) 1.05 million in Australia (as stated) 100.000 in Japan (as stated) 100.000 in brazil (as stated) 100.000 in mexico (as stated) 120.000 in Argentina (as stated) 315.000 in New Zealand (as stated)

'''However 7 million in total in Europe (http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/plat2001.html)

Grand total of certified sales should be: 30.740.000 copies

/////////////////////////////////

Discrepancy in CERTIFICATIONS v ALBUM SALES for Beatles - 'The Beatles Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' album?

Sorry, but isn't there a HUGE discrepancy in the following: The Beatles Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 1967 Rock 13.1 certifications and 32 million sold. The certification amount does not seem to justify the claimed 32 million album sales...Isn't this a supposed wiki rule regarding album sales and certs? On wiki page that deals with this particular album, it states 'over 30 million' sold. Most sources say the exact same figure for Michael's 'Dangerous' and 'BAD' album, too.

So, how can it be calculated the way it is, when further down in same list, Michael Jackson has MORE certifications (for both the 'Dangerous' album at 16.3 Certifications and 'BAD' album at 18.4 Certifications - both stating 30 million sold), which is more than is shown for Beatles, above album - yet that Beatles album is shown as 32 million sold (with LESS certification = 13.1 Certification), regardless of the figure on a wiki page which specifically deals with same album and has it at 30 million, and regardless that the article used as a source for this page merely states "around" 32 million sold - which is more of an estimate than a solid figure? 86.42.75.140 (talk) 09:24, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2014
Green Day's album "Dookie" has sold over 20 million copies, and thus, should be included in that category. Thank you for making the change!

67.11.164.73 (talk) 03:44, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 13:51, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

laundry service shakira 20 million
http://top5000-rocketman5000.blogspot.com/2013/12/shakira-63-female-artist-of-rock-era.html........ .... http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/shakira-and-enrique-iglesias-join-line-up-for-live-earth-hamburg-58272932.html..... is reference, however I cant edit semi protected,,,thank you,,,,,,,,--65.8.188.36 (talk) 23:20, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

❌ - neither of the references you have given is what we would call a reliable source - one is a blog, which is definitely not reliable, the other is a promotional press release. Perhaps you can find a better source? - If it is true, there must be a good source. - Arjayay (talk) 16:30, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/singers/shakira-net-worth/......... is more concrete,--65.8.188.36 (talk) 23:02, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 13:53, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

shakira ,,,,,,,,,laundry service,,,,20 million
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/singers/shakira-net-worth/............. source is a credible article source, I cant edit semi protected pages can someone with such authority do so, thank you,,,,,,,,,,,,--65.8.188.36 (talk) 15:35, 27 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 22:58, 27 April 2014 (UTC

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/singers/shakira-net-worth/... the change would be to add this to the list since it is auto protected, and it is a reliable source,,,,,--65.8.188.36 (talk) 12:07, 29 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Add what to the list? You are still being unclear. 123chess456 (talk) 01:57, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

shakira laundry service  20 million
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/singers/shakira-net-worth/,,,,,, is a reliable reference so that anyone who can edit semi protected pages can add Shakiras "Laundry Service" to 20 million list of best selling albums thank you,,,,,,,,,,,--65.8.187.91 (talk) 21:07, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: The link does not appear to be working for me. I'll try again later. Note that reliable sources are sources that have a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. Just by looking at the URL "www.celebritynetworth.com", it looks like the reference may not have that repuation. But I'll leave the request open in case the link starts working again later. Mz7 (talk) 00:12, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Not a reliable source: per March 2014 Laundry Service had sold 3,526,000 units according to http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/5930276/ask-billboard-shakiras-biggest-hot-100-hits Sam Sailor Sing 07:22, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

UPI Reference,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Shakira 20 million  laundry service
http://www.upi.com/topic/Shakira/............. reference is from UPI (a reliable source) would someone with semi edit ability please add it to the 20 million list, Laundry Service, Shakira,,,thank you.....--65.8.187.91 (talk) 23:56, 11 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. UPI appears to be a wiki, and wikis are not considered reliable sources because there is no fact checking in place. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 15:06, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2014
!Artist !Album !Year of release !Shipments
 * Cyndi Lauper
 * Shes Unusual
 * 1983
 * 21,000,000
 * 1983
 * 21,000,000
 * 21,000,000
 * 21,000,000

112.198.90.65 (talk) 04:54, 16 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 07:00, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

shakira, reliable sources, 20 million laundry service
http://www.upi.com/topic/Shakira/...... ......http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/singers/shakira-net-worth/,,,,,, both are reliable sources, for any one with semi edit ability to place Shakira Laundry Service 20 million on list,,,,,,,thank you,,,,,--65.8.187.207 (talk) 18:11, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Not done: The album only has 9 million in certifications, not nearly enough to support a claim of 20 million.-- Mαuri ’96 “  everything and nothing always haunts me…  ” 05:45, 20 May 2014  (UTC)

I am asking an administrator to please look into this, since the necessary rules have been followed the references asked for are reliable and indicate, both , 20 million , if for any reason they are not clear I would be very happy to repost the sources (which are already in this section)..........--65.8.187.207 (talk) 09:38, 24 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: ... and will not be done unless reliable sources support the figure. Judging from the talk page archives this claim has been made as far back as 2010. Five different editors within the last month alone have rejected the request. Consider that a clear consensus against the change. Repeating the request from different IPs within the same range, citing the same poor sources is not constructive.  Sam Sailor Sing 11:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Anastacia
Anastacia by Anastacia and released in 2004 sold over 20,000,000 copies worldwide ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.224.244.91 (talk) 23:44, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

laundry service /shakira
http://realitytvmagazine.sheknows.com/2014/03/05/whos-the-hotter-latina-judge-shakira-or-jennifer-lopez/....... is yet another reliable source, I hope this one works, thank you,,,,,,,--65.8.187.207 (talk) 01:39, 28 May 2014 (UTC) Would you like to make a specific edit with this reference? Or would you simply like to add the reference? I would assume you wanted to add this article to link it to (a) specific piece(s) of information. --JustBerry (talk) 02:43, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

http://realitytvmagazine.sheknows.com/2014/03/05/whos-the-hotter-latina-judge-shakira-or-jennifer-lopez/....... yes I am requesting to use the aforemention source, to add Shakira "Laundry Service " at 20 million, to best selling list ,,, thank you,,,,,--65.8.187.207 (talk) 23:37, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Still not a reliable source, please read WP:IRS. Sam Sailor Sing 13:36, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Omission of Iron Butterfly on the best-selling albums article
Robert3892 (talk) 17:32, 30 May 2014 (UTC)In this article it is stated that In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida from the group Iron Butterfly sold 30 million copies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida_%28album%29Robert3892 (talk) 17:32, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Robert3892 (talk) 17:32, 30 May 2014 (UTC)However, I do not see Iron Butterfly listed on the best selling album list and surely it should be there if the info in the article above is correctRobert3892 (talk) 17:32, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The sales figure of 30 million copies in the article is unsourced. I have added a . Best, Sam Sailor Sing 13:45, 7 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Multiplatinum sales - RIAA. Multiplatinum sales - Merriam-dictionary. Krenakarore  TK 14:52, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

another source for,,,,,,,,,Shakira laundry Service
http://www.upi.com/topic/Shakira/,,,,,,,,,, source is from a highly reliable news organization, please use to place Shakira, Laundry Service, 20 million,,, thank you,,--65.8.187.2 (talk) 23:29, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

❌ the link you have given is NOT a reliable source. It clearly states "It uses material from the Wikipedia article "Shakira."" and Wikipedia is not a reliable source - it also looks as if it is an old version of our article, since the current Shakira article does not give a total sales figure for Laundry Service. - Arjayay (talk) 09:24, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

shakira laundry service   20   million
http://realitytvmagazine.sheknows.com/2014/03/05/whos-the-hotter-latina-judge-shakira-or-jennifer-lopez/....... this link should work, please add, this is reliable,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,--65.8.187.5 (talk) 23:49, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

I can only assume, by the number of blogs and other trivial references they keep providing, that there is no reliable source, and, therefore, that the claim is false. If there was such a reliable source, I am sure it would be already be included in the article Laundry Service, which does not make such a claim (and is on my watchlist).
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: This is the 8th edit request on "shakira laundry service 20 million" since 22 April, and obviously made by the same person. The source given here has been suggested before and is not reliable, yet the person does not WP:LISTEN. I don't find it very constructive that we have to go on in this way, and I ask other editors to give their opinion on the matter. Sam Sailor Sing 06:17, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I fully agree - we appear to have one besotted fan who thinks the way to get it included is to keep on asking, and repeatedly claim that clearly unreliable sources are reliable, rather than actually provide a reliable, independent, source.
 * Please don't ask again, unless you really do have a reliable, independent source.- Arjayay (talk) 15:28, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The album will most certainly not be included here. First off, its a post-2000s album (almost all certifications/sales are accounted for). We have here about 10 million at most. In spite of this, I've found sources from BET listing 13 million and Rolling Stone listing 15 million. That's about as high as I guarantee you'll find from a reliable (non fansite) source. I hope NOT to see this damn album posted again. Cheers.-- Peter Griffin  &bull;  Talk2Me   21:36, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Next time please delete the request without further adieu, this is complete misuse of talk page. — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat  ] 06:14, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

my, my Wikipedia is for all, not a select few (just get a reference),,--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 22:58, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

CELINE DION The Colour of My Love
Celine Dion's "The Colour of My Love" (1993) has cold over 20mln worldwide. http://canadianmusichalloffame.ca/this-week-in-history-december-12-to-18/ Alone Highway (talk) 00:29, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Added clarify tag
I'm not quite sure why this article has a list of albums that aren't included on this list, but I'm guessing it's the result of a consensus of some sort. I've edited at WP before. ;) Anyways, if it's to be there, it needs to be clarified for the reader -- it is not at all apparent (to me, at least) what those albums have in common, nor why they are not included in the list. The paragraph appears to connect to the previous paragraph, but the connection is not obvious. So I added a tag. While I'm sure the editors understand this information's relevance, I don't know if a reader will. I didn't get it, or I would have just added an explanation myself. Eaglizard (talk) 16:51, 28 August 2014 (UTC)


 * The albums are some of the ones which have been previously requested to be added but were not added (or removed) due to insufficient certification. The same is done at the List of best-selling music artists.
 * I also added Bolo Ta Ra Ra, A Voice on the Ocean, and The Sound of Music, which were massive sellers in India, China and the US/Europe respectively, but have no (online) available certifications.-- Mαuri ’96 “  everything and nothing always haunts me…  ” 22:58, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 August 2014
I saw that Nevermind by Nirvana is said to have only sold 26 million copies on this list. On the Nevermind Wikipedia page it says that Nevermind has sold over 30 million copies „The Recording Industry Association of America has certified the album Diamond (over 10 million copies shipped), and the album has sold over 30 million copies worldwide“, it also says on the Nirvana Discography Wikipedia page that the album has sold 30 million copies. I would like to see it change from 26 million to its actual number 30 million. Thank you.

Tinna Lárusdóttir (talk) 18:02, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Noticed WikiProject Albums members. -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 06:03, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Source per the album page. http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/470039/billboard-bits-nirvanas-nevermind-to-be-re-released-no-more-guest-stars-on-glee

Would do it myself but I'm too stupid to figure out these tables and how the 30-39 bracket has a confirmed sales section and the 20-20 doesn't Cannolis (talk) 10:21, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done
 * On a related note, feel free to edit this sandbox to familiarize yourself with the layout of the list.-- Mαuri ’96 “  everything and nothing always haunts me…  ” 23:35, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Thriller: 65M+
Thriller is still listed at 51-65M. It has over 42M in certs (even with under-certified Japanese numbers, the album is the 7th best seller there by a non-Japanese artist with 1.74M sold: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_in_Japan), why on earth is the range still as low as 51M? The album should be listed with 60M+ at the very least considering the record was released in 1982 and would require even less than 50% total certs to bump its estimate (though nobody is asking for an 84M estimate!) The album is underserved by well over 10M copies at 51M. On another note, does anyone know why the Japanese certs haven't been awarded/claimed for MJ's albums? They're stupidly low for Bad too, when you consider the Bad tour attendance there is 4-5 times what that album sold. Mc8755 (talk) 12:51, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Sweden: certification levels
Here are the Swedish certification levels for albums: until 09/1996 :: G 50,000 P 100,000, until 12/2001 :: G 40,000 P 80,000, until 10/2006 :: G 30,000 P 60,000, and since 11/2006 :: G 20,000 P 40,000. Max24 (talk) 17:51, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

The Colour of My Love
This are the basic numbers for The Colour of My Love: * US: 6 million * JPN: 600,000 * UK: 1.5 million * GER: 250,000 * FRA: 300,000 * CAN: 1 million * AUS: 560,000 * NLD: 300,000 * SWE: 100,000 * SPA: 100,000 * BEL: 100,000 * SWI: 50,000 * NOR: 150,000 * AUT: 25,000 * FIN: 40,289 * NZ: 90,000 If we add them, we get 11,165,289, which is ~11.2 million. So it meets the criteria. 20 million is 100% and 11.2 million is 56%. I can also provide sources for other numbers. The sales is sourced for way more than 11.2 million. (talk) 00:40, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Eminem and MJ
There's no way Eminem's MMLP sold 29 Million. MJ's Thriller is widely claimed to have sold over 100 Million.
 * It's widely claimed, but there's been wire-crossing along the way. It went from being estimate in the early sixty-millions to 100 million records then 100 million copies. I assume the records count was inclusive of the singles and video sales from the album - Thriller video sales and "The Making of Thriller" sales are huge so they could probably push the total up there. The current range is stupid for Thriller though, 51 is moronically low and 65 is probably a lower-end estimate of sales, not an upper one following posthumous sales. MMLP is listed at 21 million currently, which seems about right. Mc8755 (talk) 19:00, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2014
Hi there. With the recent release of U2's newest album on iTunes, Apple has said that it has been made given to over 500 million. Now if I am correct, that would make it the most popular album in the world. Please look into this and how accurate this is. you can find more information on this on the official apple website. Thanks.

71.171.115.176 (talk) 01:50, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

❌ This is a list of best-selling albums, whereas Songs of Innocence was issued "to all iTunes Store customers at no cost, having been automatically added to their iTunes music libraries" and many people "immediately deleted it" It might be the most "given-away" album of all time, but as, so far, no copies have been sold - it is possibly the "Worst-selling album of all time" ;-) - Arjayay (talk) 07:23, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

World Wide Defined
I think "World Wide hit" needs to be defined because many Eastern European, Russia, Chinese etc markets wern't open to western music until the 1990's. Maybe it isn't quite fair to compare records that primarily sold in 1975 to records that sold in 1995, but it hard to find sources that differentiate the difference. RomanGrandpa (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2014 (UTC)


 * You're right, it isn't fair to compare records sales from vastly different markets from different generations. In any case, in the current version of the article, the word "worldwide" is used sparingly.
 * Furthermore, I actually made a point of mentioning Daler Mehndi's Bolo Ta Ra Ra, The Sound of Music soundtrack, Fei Xiang's A Voice on the Ocean and In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida in the lead despite the fact that (to my knowledge) the first three have never actually been added to the list or even requested to be added.


 * Also, as always, any information on certifications from non-Western countries is welcome so the list can be more inclusive and objective.-- Mαuri ’96 “  everything and nothing always haunts me…  ” 00:09, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Britney Spears
BOMT sold most 30 million and Oops i did again sold most 25 million!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoreMoneyGomes (talk • contribs) 23:01, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

2010s sales
This list should extend with a next section from 10 to 19 million, because we won't see another massive seller like 21, according to some experts. The biggest acts sales like Justin Timberlake, Taylor Swift, Bruno Mars and One Direction just can sell a peak of 6 millions these days. Except for 21, just three or four albums has reached the 10 million mark since 2009 (5 years ago). Biagio2103 (talk) 13:45, 8 November 2014 (UTC)


 * The list of best-selling singles hasn't removed sections in light of download singles allowing for massive sales not seen since the 1970's, so it wouldn't make much sense to do the opposite for this list.-- Mαuri ’96 “  everything and nothing always haunts me…  ” 06:38, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2014
Please change the number of Bat Out of Hell copies sold to 43 million copies worldwide, according to references:

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/meat-loaf-bat-out-of-hell-released/

Internal link to wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Out_of_Hell

88.220.148.226 (talk) 11:20, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done  George Edward C –  Talk  –  Contributions  18:13, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

According to Mediatraffic, Lady Gaga The Fame Monster album sold more than eminem at 2009. Check it here: http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-2010.htm (+100.000 copies than Recovery by Eminem). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.156.153.162 (talk) 23:42, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2015
The Spice Girls sold over 20 million copies of their second album (Spiceworld). I don't know why it is not on the list of albums selling 20 million??????? Answer for the stupid mistake you have made.

92.22.252.20 (talk) 17:45, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —  18:25, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

I found this: "The Spice Girls were a global power and sold 20 million copies of their first album and 20 million copies of their second album across the world and were therefore a major selling act of the last 10 years." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-350502/Spice-Girls-dropped-Live-Aid-follow-up.html

GOODBYE YELLOW BRICK ROAD /ELTON JOHNS GREASTEST HITS
WHY ARE THESE TWO ALBUMS NOT ON THE BEST SELLING LISTS.GBYR AS BEEN LISTED AT OVER 30MILLION FOR AGES ON ELTONS PAGE YOU HAVE A REFERENCE FOR THE FIGURE SO WHY IS IT NOT THERE ?????? EJGH AS OVER 16 MILLION IN THE STATES I HAVE SEEN FIGURES AS HIGH AS 18 MIILION.YOU HAVE REPORTED IT AT OVER 32 MILLION AT ONE STAGE,WHICH I WOULD NOT DOUBT AND WHY DO YOU PEOPLE AT WIKI KEEP ON SAYING THAT MADONNAS GH IS THE BEST SELLING GH BY A SOLO ARTIST WHEN FOR START ITS AT LEAST 6 MILLION BEHIND ELTON GHS JUST IN THE US.ON MADOONA AIBUM PAGE IT SAYS 30 MILLION BUT THE BIGGEST CERTS BARELY EVEN ADD UP TO ELTONS SALES IN THE US.CERTS OF ELTONS ALBUMS AND SINGLES ARE POOR AT BEST BUT ITS CLEAR THAT EJGH IS THE BEST SELLING SINGLE COLLECTION OF GREATEST HITS, AND WHY IS GBYR NOT REGARDED AS SELLING 16 MILLION AS ITS A TWO DISC SET WHEN EVERY OTHER DOUBLE GETS THE CREDIT LIKE BIILY JOEL/ LED ZEPP124.197.38.72 (talk) 08:22, 11 March 2015 (UTC)    REGARDS TONY

Back In Black and Dark Side of The Moon
The album Back in Black Thiller must be behind the album. Back In Black bone must be in second position because I sold 50 million albums which is the second biggest selling album The album Back in Black Thiller must be behind the album. Back In Black bone must be in second position because I sold 50 million albums which is the second biggest selling album. and Back In Black has more platinum albums The Dark Side of the Moon

Aguila121 (talk) 05:45, 19 March 2015 (UTC) source. riaa https://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?content_selector=gold-platinum-searchable-database


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as your request contravenes the cited sources - the RIAA certification only covers US sales - some albums are far more, or less, popular in Europe, or elsewhere in the world, than in the US. - Arjayay (talk) 12:05, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Heads-up: Eagles (band)
Just a heads-up for a related issue: there is apparently a Rolling Stone article from 2000 which asserts that "The Eagles Greatest Hits" is the #1 album of all time. This ref has being used justify the claim to "#1 album of all time" on the Eagles (band) page. I've reverted the claim - even if the RS article did claim it to be true, there is abundant evidence it is not. Just mentioning it here for general attention of those monitoring this topic. Manning (talk) 22:19, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Bing Crosby Merry Christmas?
The wikipedia article itself says it's sold 15 million (RIAA certified it Gold, too), not counting the 1.975 mil that was sold in MCA's 1995 disc White Christmas, (later incarnation of the album) and the 4x Platinum sales award by RIAA, and Geffen's vinyl re-issue of Merry Christmas (duplicating the 1955 LP) just last holiday season. I think it should get a spot at the bottom at around 20 million. What do you guys think? (Utzdman55 (talk) 18:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC))

Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2015
The information given is wrong! Back in Black is the 2nd biggest selling album with an income of 45-48 million. It is then pink floyd the Whitney Houston then meat loaf

Frew3 (talk) 16:19, 25 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 18:03, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2015
Acording to Slovenian wikipedia https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seznam_najbolj_prodajanih_slovenskih_glasbenih_izvajalcev you have to edit artists 40 million copies or more. You have to include Slavko Avsenik from Slovenia with 31 Mio selling records.

Ivanlaharnar (talk) 20:46, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: If I'm translating that information correctly, Avsenik sold 31 million overall, not 31 million of an individual album. This is a list of best-selling albums, not best-selling musical artists - that's located here, and the minimum to be added to that list is 75 million. Thanks, &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 22:08, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Adele's 21 certified sales have increased
Certified sales for 21, by Adele have increased, notably in the US, where it has passed the 11 million mark ( http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?content_selector=gold-platinum-searchable-database / 11x platinum) Moreover, I can see that French sales are not taken into account, yet they are quite significant (1.7+ million: http://www.chartsinfrance.net/Adele/21-a110233759.html ). Plus, I'm quite sure the sales have significantly increased in most countries, but I must admit I can't find references to that in English-speaking websites/articles, except maybe for those used in the "certifications" section of the wikipedia page dedicated to the album itself. July 27, 2015. 6.20 pm

I would like to add a column for sales estimates from United World Chart: http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-album-chart.htm (The triangle represents 2 million albums; the number is the number of triangles. So, e.g., Thriller has estimated sales of >66 million, while Jagged Little Pill has estimated sales of 32 million.)

I think we can all agree that: 1) sales certifications are grossly inadequate and universally under estimate actual sales, and 2) "claimed sales" are complete BS, because they vary so wildly and frequently have no grounding in fact, and are nothing more than rumor. The problem used to be that we didn't have a serious charting organization in the past that actually produced reliable and neutral sales estimates for global album sales. But, now we do.

United World Chart has compiled data from essentially every music publication since the origin of Billboard in the 1950s. They provide global singles charts (75% sales, 25% airplay) for every single week of that time period. They utilize sales figures that do exist, and generate estimates based on chart position and market size/country where sales estimates don't exist. Overall, they have created what I would consider to be a fairly reliable and consistent global charting system, which conveniently includes (reasonably coherent) sales estimates for the 100 best-selling albums of all time, globally.

It is time to take these reasonably reliable sales estimates and share them with the world on this Wikipedia page. I can't add a column because wikipedia hates me. More likely, whoever added the charts to begin with just did something weird. Anyways, it is not easy to add a column to the charts, and I have other things to do today. So, if someone has any ideas about how the charts can be edited, please contact me, or just do it yourself.

Adieu. ~Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by MSZ372 (talk • contribs) 22:25, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2015 - formatting error for last item in each hidden country list
In the hidden national sales lists, in the sixth column, the last item in each list is not formatted with the other items, but appears outside the box as a separate line. This seems to affect every hidden list in the table. Except that for the Spice Girls' Spice at 11, the last two countries are anomalous; and for Nirvana's Nevermind at 30, only the first country is correct. I am not familiar with the template and can't easily experiment, but I suggest that it may be due to not correctly closing the hidden tag, possibly due to mismatched }}. Therefore one thing to try might be adding an extra pair of }} after each list, or look into how the hidden tag needs to be closed. Or perhaps there is a bug in the template. Hope this helps.
 * Having now read the help for the hidden template at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden, and looked more closely at the markup, as far as I can see, there do seem to be }} in the right places to close each list. However the hidden template seems to be stealing the }} from the last cite web template in each list.  In the Nirvana list, there is only one cite web used, so only the first line renders correctly.  Maybe there is a problem with using nested templates.  I can't suggest how to overcome this.
 * Just a thought. Should it be using Hidden begin and Hidden end? See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden_end

85.210.175.188 (talk) 13:12, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JustBerry (talk) 23:49, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Shakira's Laundry Service
The album has only certified 8 million copies. Why is it on the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.233.82.132 (talk) 02:04, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 September 2015
Whitney sophomore album sold over 25 million copies

112.198.77.138 (talk) 12:34, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 12:44, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

The number of copies sold of Nevermind is outdated
Dear friends, please, you can not update the numbers of Nevermind, but I realize they are wrong since 2013. The Nevermind surpassed 35 million copies. I have seen a report on TV talking about it (MTV). In written matter, I've read iso on the following links: http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2014/04/05/remembering_kurt_cobain.html and http://www.amazonfrontrow.com/post/89205247425/amazon-essentials-charles-r-cross-on-nirvanas. Taking advantage, please also update Nevermind sales in the United States. According to The Independent, are already 11.5 million records sold: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/number-one-in-heavenrock-1612917.html. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rr lithium (talk • contribs) 01:11, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Not shown in list, please include.
Janis Joplin's 1971 album, 'Pearl', is not in the list. I have checked this album for RIIA certification and it is true that 'Pearl' has sold over 4 x platinum as stated in the article about this album here at Wikipedia. Now, I don't know how to edit a protected list, so I ask that this be done by the administers of the list.

You can get the RIAA certification from http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?artist=%22Pearl%22# You have to use the Advanced function to name Janis Joplin as the artist. The result will show at the bottom of the page and confirm that the number of units sold makes it Platinum.

When the list has been updated, please notify me. (I'm not sure how this is done here at wikipedia, so if necessary, see my Facebook page:Len Goforth)

Thanks.

LenGoforth67 (talk) 20:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)LenGoforth67 LenGoforth67 (talk) 20:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)10/19/2015

Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2015
Please put Amy Winehouse's album 'Back To Black' in the best selling albums' list. It has sold 20 million copies around the world, and hence, deserves to be part of the list. Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/19/amy-winehouse-singers-father-details-cycle-addicti/

117.199.215.30 (talk) 13:30, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: There is a reason that that album has not been included and you can find that reason if you read the lead section. See [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_best-selling_albums/Archive_8#Certified_sales_column_response this previous discussion] for more information. --Stabila711 (talk) 00:13, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Media Traffic ?
I don't understand why Media Traffic's sales are included here, and with no source. According to WP:BADCHARTS, it is one of the websites to avoid. Minhhai 2000 (talk) 04:16, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Contradicting album position in table list!
'''Can someone explain the BIG discrepancy of the following, which is in the list box on main article page, as it doesn’t make an ounce of sense as to why Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - with the LEAST certifications and less claimed sales - is placed further up on list??

Beatles: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band = 13.1 Certifications > Estimated sales = 32 million / claimed sales = 32 million

Michael Jackson: BAD = 18.4 Certifications > Estimated sales = 34 million / claimed sales = 30-45 million

Michael Jackson: Dangerous = 16.3 Certifications > Estimated sales = 32 million / claimed sales = 30-45 million '''

78.17.194.191 (talk) 05:56, 29 December 2015 (UTC)