Talk:List of best-selling mobile phones

Motorola RAZR missing from chart
I'm not too familiar with editing wikipedia but it makes no sense that when you scroll down the page it says the Motorola RAZR V3, 130 million sold but such an important phone in history is not listed in the main table itself. It should be somewhere up there in the top 10 among the nokias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.83.77.239 (talk) 21:23, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Best-selling overall
Since when is 136 less then 130, I wonder?

Samsung Wine
This says the Wine line has sold over a million units, but I can't seem to find the article about it. Leaving here for future reference. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 02:06, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Source???????
Why, isn't this article even slightly sourced? Most announcements of sales ae e done online and are reported by numerous technological news sites. YuMaNuMa Talk Contributions 13:07, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Accuracy of the whole page?
This page does not seem useful to me. Just look at the 2011 numbers. Apple reported selling 37 million iPhones in the last quarter of the year. The iPhone numbers listed do not even reach 37 million.

Is it really the case that the best selling Nokia phone was the N9 with 2 million units (out of the reported 422 million units from the section above?) The best selling models of the year were all smartphones? 2010 seems a little bit more realistic, except there's so much missing data that I don't see how this can purport to be a list of the best selling mobile phones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KevinDangoor (talk • contribs) 15:20, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Original article has become a mess and is now full of inaccurate unreferenced data
This article started with a nice table format of referenced data. As others just tacked on text without reference below the original table it has become nothing more than a constantly inaccurate data set without anything external to back up the claims. All unreferenced data should be deleted to restore the integrity of the article. As mobile phone has become a hot topic in the world today, these outrageously bad sales numbers are being quoted on financial and tech websites. It is a disgrace to the telecommunications project as well as wikipedia. Bilton1 (talk) 00:23, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Very doubt-able information
Much of the data suggested in this article seems significantly implausible, such as a phone released this year selling 180 million? Especially with it being neither a high end, super-desired smartphone nor an extremely affordable and easy to access device. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.158.152 (talk) 10:42, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Evo 4g
Can anyone else verify why the sales for this phone are stated for 2011 instead of 2010, the year in which it was released (and presumably, sold the most units) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.250.65.69 (talk) 17:27, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Nokia 1110 vs 1100
The page has a picture of the Nokia 1100 and the caption for the picture states “The Nokia 1100 is the world's best-selling handset” But the Nokia 1100 is not even included in the list.

There seems to be a wide spread typo confusing things OR both phones have sold 250m units each. Because even on site:nokia.com you find both phones mentioned with the above stats.

I hope someone at Nokia with first hand knowledge can fix this mess and update this list and ALSO the pages for both these phones AND preferrably any errors on nokia.com pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.34.40.30 (talk) 13:23, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

In quarter.
I suggest to write the list of best-selling mobile phones in quarter replace in year. Manzzzz(talk) 01:25, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Should we go ahead and remove everything without a source?
That honestly seems like the easiest and best way to clean up this mess. Apeman2001 (talk) 09:25, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

2012 Numbers ZTE double counted?
From the way the text is written, it seems like ZTE is counted twice.

Jrhoadley (talk) 11:51, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Galaxy S4 - 160 million ?
160 million appears to be a gross error. That is apparently the figure for the total number of S series phones sold altogether ... not just for one model of them. From sources on the web, it would appear that the Galaxy S4 has sold about 40 million units, not 160 ... --Technofish (talk) 07:17, 12 November 2014 (UTC)


 * From what I can see, the 40 million figure is for the first six months (from launch to 23 October 2013). Presumably sales didn't fall off a cliff after that, so total lifetime sales would most likely be higher than that. Can't find any specific numbers, though. Indrek (talk) 19:22, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

2014 manufacturer sales accuracy
Even ignoring that the numbers are only for Q1, some big names are missing from the list, like Nokia(Microsoft). Taking a look at another source, statista.com (http://www.statista.com/statistics/270243/global-mobile-phone-sales-by-vendor-since-2009/), I found:

Others 629.36 million
 * 1) Samsung 392.55 million
 * 2) Apple 191.43 million
 * 3) Nokia / Microsoft 185.66 million
 * 4) Lenovo 84.03 million
 * 5) LG Electronics 76.1 million
 * 6) Huawei 70.5 million
 * 7) TCL Communication 64.03 million
 * 8) Xiaomi 56.53 million
 * 9) ZTE 53.91 million
 * 10) Sony / Sony Ericsson 37.79 million
 * 11) Micromax 37.09 million

Not sure what we can do about this since the good sources are usually behind pay walls. statista.com seems to limit multiple requests from the same IP in a short time.

If nobody has any objections, I'll replace the current information. Vnicolici (talk) 02:20, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

These are valid sources that the Samsung galaxy S5 sold 12 million and not 11 million?
1)http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s5-said-not-selling-as-well-as-s4/

2)http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-officially-flop-flagship-sells-4-million-fewer-handsets-galaxy-s4-1728452

3)http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/11/24/samsungs-sold-40-fewer-galaxy-s5-units-than-expected/

4)http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/11/24/unloved-unwanted-unsold-samsungs-failed-gamble-with-the-galaxy-s5/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.255.94.42 (talk) 20:30, 23 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Those look good. I've added the CNET one to the article.
 * For more information on using sources, please see WP:CITE and WP:RS. Indrek (talk) 05:30, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Samsung rarely provides firm numbers for actual smartphone sales
"Samsung rarely provides firm numbers for actual smartphone sales, nor does it regularly detail how many are 'high end' iPhone competitors and how many are simply basic camera-phones running an old version of Android 2.x, and sold at razor thin profit margins." Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 02:09, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

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Microsoft Lumia 532 information is unsupported in citation, highly dubious
The Microsoft Lumia, here listed as the 8th best selling phone of all time, is not even mentioned in the referenced citation. It is a smart phone from microsoft released in 2015 to mixed reviews. It does not appear in any of the annual sales records or anywhere else on this page for that matter. I was unable to find any news online referencing the extremely strong sales figures of 150 million. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:41:6630:600:3914:2D7D:6C9F:9C9E (talk) 17:49, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Recent Nokia best-sellers?
The present list mentions no Nokia phone after 2009, however it seems that the lowest-end Nokias continued to make such figures well into the 2010s: By 2013, Nokia announced the Nokia 1280 (released in 2010) went on to sell "over 100,000,000 units"

By 2015, Microsoft announced that "The original Nokia 105 has sold more than 80 million units" (it was introduced by Nokia in 2013, as the successor to the 1280) In 2017, HMD announced there were "well over 200 million Nokia 105 handsets sold to date", so about 120 million 2nd-generation Nokia 105. It has been two years and two more 105 iterations, so it is likely those numbers have gotten higher since.

Maybe these phones could make it into the table? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ΟυώρντΑρτ (talk • contribs) 14:34, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

iPhone 6 and 6s
The iPhone 6s is nowhere to be seen on the table, and the sales numbers of the 6/6 plus are extremely unusual for an iPhone (nearly 3 times that of the next best selling generation). Is there a possibility that the 6 and 6s have been combined on the table, and if so, shouldn't they be split for more accuracy? ΟυώρντΑρτ

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Apple 11 Contradictory Figures Corrected
Reference items (9) & (10) apply. The chart reflects iPhone 11 sales of 102 million. The lists further down the article for 2019 showed the iPhone 11 sales as over 1 billion units, more than the entire years smartphone shipments of all brands combined. I edited the list portion to match the 102 million in the referenced articles. As this is a minor correction I have done this without waiting on response on the Talk page Bilbo-2014 (talk) 20:12, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

IPhone 12 numbers in table are suspicious
I just deleted two of the references for the iPhone 12 numbers in the table since they didn't mention iPhone 12 and were published before iPhone 12 released. The remaining source is in Korean do I can't judge it very well, but I can't find anything other sources saying iPhone 12 sold 250 million units. I can find lots of articles from june/july 2021 saying iPhone 12 sales passed 100 millions, for example https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/30/iphone-12-crosses-100-million-unit-sales-marking-iphone-6-like-super-cycle/, but I can't find anything more recent. I did find an article with a graph of total iPhone sales (all models) per quarter in 2021 and it looks to add up to 250 million total iphones. https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/blog/apple-device-revenues-set-new-record-even-as-shipments-fall-2-2-yoy-in-q421 I think the real number is between 100 and 250 million, but I can't find anything more specific. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8080:2B00:924E:ACB9:C0C1:5D87:1014 (talk) 19:28, 11 February 2022 (UTC)