Talk:List of bills sponsored by Barack Obama in the United States Senate

Bills opposed?
Perhaps it would be a good idea (if possible) to implement a list of bills opposed, as this would be as useful as a list of bills supported.Jamesflomonosoff (talk) 00:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Should we keep article?
I don't know who marked this for deletion, but I believe it should not only be kept, but that similar pages should be generated for all the members of the House and Senate.Westrim (talk) 19:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. There should be easy access to politicians' records, especially federal officials and presidential candidates. Perhaps there is/should be a way to organize it in such a way that each article about a politician has a link to a bills sponsored page, alongside a short review of their major achievements. Surely, there are enough political geeks on wiki to create and fill such pages :). Don't delete. MisplacedFate1313 (talk) 20:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

The article should definitely be kept.COGITO ERGO SUM 20:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajcheema (talk • contribs)

This "article" seems to be nothing more than an advertisement for the Obama campaign. Delete. 68.177.12.38 (talk) 20:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC) ted it seems to me that it would be in the public interest to know what the leading presidential candidates have been up to in their actual jobs, so someone should create an analogous page for john Mccain. don't delete --Prunetucky (talk) 22:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not if a similar article is made for McCain. Jamesflomonosoff (talk) 00:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That does not seem to have occured. It's shocking really, but it didn't occur.--T. Anthony (talk) 08:56, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't see how this could be construed as an advertisement for the Obama campaign any more than the wikipedia page on Barack Obama is. Actually this page could hurt his campaign as much as help it, since anyone who comes here could easily disagree with bills he has sponsored. Since the content of this page is pure information with no commentary, I don't see how it could have anything but a neutral point of view. The page should unequivocally be kept, and I agree that similar pages should be created for as many congresspersons as possible. Locke9k (talk) 22:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)Locke9k

One more note - after looking extra carefully at the list of reasons to delete an article, I cannot see how this article meets any one of them. Considering that the person who listed the article for deletion doesnt seem to have said why, I almost wonder if it was just an act of vandalism. Locke9k (talk) 22:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)Locke9k

Sponsored vs. Introduced
There should at least be a clarification of the difference between "sponsored" and "introduced" in the US Congress. Sponsoring a bill is almost meaningless, it's like saying that you'd vote for it if it came to the floor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.134.240.8 (talk) 22:11, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I inherited this terminology from thomas.loc.gov, which lists one "sponsor" for each bill. Often bills are described in the press as having multiple "sponsors", of which one is then the "primary sponsor", but these are listed as "cosponsors" on THOMAS. Mike Serfas (talk) 01:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

There seems to have been a recent non-NPOV addition to the summary section, including the "According to Factcheck.org" bit and the "An accurate comparison" bit. The first reads like an attack on his co-sponsorship and the second doesn't even make sense: in comparison to what? The goal of this page is to set out factual information as to what legislation Obama supported. Whether the bills went through or not does not affect his support. Whether he was sponsor or co-sponsor does not affect his support. I will remove those bits unless someone explains why they are pertinent to knowing what "bills [were] sponsored by Barrack Obama", per the title of this page. Rotundo (talk) 20:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I concur. "An accurate comparison" that counts only those bills which were signed into law by President Bush? Please. Obama could well have written the best non-partisan bills in the entire history of the U.S. Senate, but in today's fractious political climate they would have all been shot down by Bush purely for political point-scoring. Slowgenius (talk) 17:02, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I concur and have removed those segments. Westrim (talk) 17:40, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

No information about what each bill actually means
I think it's a good idea in theory, but without explanation of what each bill means, the information is worthless. Politicians tend to title their bill as to provide the best spin on the actual meaning. Mikieminnow (talk) 22:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, there should be a column to include short summaries for every bill.Jamesflomonosoff (talk) 00:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The Govtrack link from the bill status leads to information which includes both summary and full text of the bills ... but I should have pointed that out! Sorry. Mike Serfas (talk) 01:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

up to date?
i'm far from expert on these matters so i will be less than bold, but i will ask how up to date is this? when i click on the RS link for bill 2125 it appears that pres bush signed it into law in dec. 2006; should it still be rs then? or ats? haven't looked at any others because, as i said, i'm not entirely sure i'm interpreting things correctly.Gzuckier (talk) 18:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

only two sponsored bills became law
The article says the following: "Obama has sponsored 136 bills since Jan 4, 2005. Two have become law. "

Am I missing something, or does the citation not say anything about the statement? I am looking for a reliable source that lists the bills that Obama sponsored that became law and just a list of the bills he sponsored. Has anyone found cites like these? If not, shouldn't we remove this claim from the article?LedRush (talk) 17:18, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I found this site that says that Obama passed 6 resolutions. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d110&querybd=@BANDNOT%28@FIELD%28FLD003+@1%2801763%29%29+@FIELD%28FLD008+%28m%29%29%29

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