Talk:List of books about the Romanian Revolution

I made some corrections - Stoenescu didn't published a second edition in 2005 of "Istoria loviturilor de stat - Revoluţia din 1989 o tragedie românească", but a second volume. I wonder if Gallagher's book can be considered about the Romanian Revolution, it is about a broader subject.--MariusM 12:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. You are right on the Stoenescu matter - I guess it was not clear from the context,and I was a bit confused. You may also be right about the Gallagher book, and I had second thoughts myself: I decided to include it based on the assumption that it may also cover ground in the more specific area of 1989 (in turn, I was led to believe that the same argument could be made for books such as Revoluţie şi reformă); in case you think that this is awkward, feel free to remove it. Dahn 17:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Brucan
Brucan - Social Change in Russia and Eastern Europe, is it about Romanian Revolution? From the title I doubt, however I didn't read his book. I have some doubts also about the other book of Brucan, which also I didn't read.--MariusM 01:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe that they both belong on this list as much or as little as Iliescu's Revoluţie şi reformă and Frunză's book. Dahn 01:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I read Iliescu's Revoluţie şi reformă (there are 2 editions - a shorter one in 1993 and a longer one in 1994). Is the first book where Iliescu is giving some explanations about the revolution. In the first edition, more than half is about revolution (56 out of 96 pages), the rest is about events imediatelly after revolution (CPUN, Tg Mureş, Universităţii Square, first elections, "mineriadele"), which are still linked to the revolution. Second edition include other parts not directly linked to the revolution, however we still have 86 pages out of 280 directly linked to the revolution, or 140 pages if we include the events of 1990, which are direct consequence of revolution. Which is the situation with Brucan's books?--MariusM 01:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I have not read them, but I assume they allocate space to the Romanian Revolution (perhaps to the Revolution first and foremost - given their titles and presentations, it is unlikely that they don't do so approx. as much as Iliescu. I also have to wonder about your take on 1990 events: surely, the list would be much, much longer if we would be using them as criteria, and Gallagher's book would need to be brought back in there (not to mention that a potential "Books about the Mineriad[s]" list would be de-legitimized). Dahn 01:45, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Rules for inclusion
I propose some rules for the inclusion in this list:
 * At least one chaptle ("capitol" - did I spelt correctly in English?) should be about Romanian Revolution.
 * chapter - Jmabel | Talk 05:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * To debate: what about fiction books? In fact, the majority of books printed about Romanian Revolution are fiction, with a lot of theories and scenarios far from reality, but I am talking ab out books which overtly are saying there are fiction.--MariusM 02:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I would agree with the chapter guideline you propose, but consider that a book may either not be divided into chapters, or may not be divided into geographical chapters (for example, it may deal with Romania exhaustively, just not all in one place).
 * I like the fiction proposal very much. I propose that we divide this list into two major sections, each divided into subsections accordance to language. One would be "Commentary", the other "Fiction". What say you? Dahn 02:10, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * A chapter need to be about Romanian Revolution or, at least, one of important subjects of the book should be Romanian Revolution. A book about general Romanian history where there are one or two pages about Romanian Revolution will not qualify for this list. SOmebody should check Brucan's book, to see how much is about revolution. Actual list is only about commentaries or eye-witnesses accounts. Some of the comentaries are fiction in my POV, but their authors will not agree with that, they claim telling The Truth. I know that some movies were made on this subject, but I don't know about books which were the basis for those movies.--MariusM 02:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I have taken that into account, and guided myself after the fact that Brucan was an eyewitness. In case you think the point I make is problematic, I agree that you remove the Brucan titles pending verification. Dahn 10:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

BTW, there are some movies taken in the revolution available on internet, should we include such a section in this article, with links? The article can become a basis for researchers interested in the subject.--MariusM 02:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * How about starting a list of films about the Revolution instead? (It could have a section including repotage and various others available online.) Dahn 10:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That would be futile.
 * Er... Actually, I can name about 10 feature films dealing with the Revolution (there were three new ones just last year). Goodness knows how many documentaries there are. Dahn 10:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Please start a List of movies about Romanian Revolution of 1989, with a "fiction" and a "documentary" section and I will add what I know (some movies made in December 1989 which are available on the internet). We will link at movie's list through a "See also" section.--MariusM 12:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * "Movies" is a bit too colloquial. I'll start is as List of films about Romanian Revolution of 1989. Dahn 13:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

List of ...
I have a suggestion: Change the name of this article to List of books about the Romanian Revolution of 1989. Why? So it matches the title of List of films about the Romanian Revolution of 1989. Or else change the name of the other to just Films about the Romanian Revolution of 1989 so it matches this list. Ştefan44 06:55, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Ştefan44 is a sockpuppet of User:William Mauco who wikistalked me.--MariusM 19:32, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Petru Ilieşu. "Timişoara 1989 -No Comment". Planetarium. Timişoara,2004
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