Talk:List of butterflies of India (Papilionidae)

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Have added redirect pages for Princeps - > Papilio. Need to check the latest in Papilionid taxonomy and decide what stands, also author names may be needed here. Shyamal 03:11, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Papilio genus
Interesting material here 

Suggests that Princeps group and the Main Papilio group are distinct enough ! Although the current following seems to be for a lumping of the genera into Papilio. Shyamal 17:32, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Checked from Krushnamegh. Says the consensus is for Papilio. Ouch! Will probably have to shift over once our other priority work is done. Sigh!!!16:43, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Changes in Parnassius
Changes in Parnassius family suggested by Dr Anton Chichvarkhin are being implemented. Summary of the changes. //unfortunately, the valley in Sikkim on northern slope of Himalaya from where this species is known, had been occupied by the Chinese long time ago. :( I never heard about its populations on southern slopes of Himalaya, including Bhutan. Please verify.Anton//
 * Dr Chichvarkin has stated that Large Keeled Apollo P. tianschianicus and Banded Apollo P. delphius do not occur in India. Hence links removed from the list.
 * Instead of P. delphius, correct species should read Karakoram Banded Apollo (P. hunza). So new page created.
 * Keeled Apollo P. jacquemontii - Only ssp. himalayensis Elwes, 1914 occurs in India hence page amended.
 * Parnassius actius - Only ssp. brutus Bryk, 1914 occurs in India hence page amended.
 * Hannyngton's Apollo P. hannyngtoni -

The page is being retained on semantic ;-) grounds. //BTW, can anybody say, has it been ever found in Sikkim? Some scholars consider augustus as separate species. Anton// The contributor is Anton Chichvarkhin, PhD.Lab. of Molecular Systematics, Institute of Biology and Soil Science, 100-letiya Vladivostoka, 159,Vladivostok 690022, Russia 
 * Misspelling of Parnassius imperator agustus corrected to Imperial Apollo Parnassius imperator augustus.
 * Some references have been added by Dr Chichvarkin.

Changes in Pachliopta
Ceylon Rose has been excised fron the list since it is NOT an Indian species. However if I find any material, I shall continue to maintain it. AshLin 12:12, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Ouch, down to 70 (84) species now
Realised P.paris and P.p.tamilana cannot be counted as two different taxon. Probably have to combine their wikis in the future (regretfully). My species count is down to 70 Papilioninae and 14 Parnassinae ie total 84 species of Papilionids only. Grrr AshLin 13:18, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Couple of species mentioned in Bingham
Papilio palinurus and P. caunus... I have typed in the descriptions. Let me know if it is needed. Shyamal 08:02, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Atrophaneura genus articles
The articles on all species of Atrophaneura have been done upto the data available wiyth me at present. AshLin 06:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Peacock ids please
4 images from Arif Siddiqui. I've been fighting to figure out which is which for lots of time now. Finally i've come to some conclusions. Need them verified though. First here is my homemade key to peacocks. based completely on the upperside hind wing. Cat say i fid this key useful

1.a. Green lines joining blue patch to tornal occellus
 * 2.a. sub terminal red lunules present - P.krishna
 * 2.b. sub terminal red lunules absent
 * 3.a. blue patch confined to costa - P.paris
 * 3.b. blue patch large and present on a large portion ofthe HW - P.p. tamilana

1.b. No green lines joining blue patch to tornal occellus
 * 2.a. green wavy line above the tornal occulus - P.arcturus(Blue)
 * 2.b. no green wavy line above the tornal occulus - P.polyctor(Common)

Here is Bingham's key Paris group
 * a. Fore wing underside : subterminal greyish-white hand sharply defined, narrow, of even width throughout P. krishna
 * b. Fore wing underside: subterminal greyish-white band not sharply defined, broad and gradually widened anteriorly.
 * a1 Hind wing upperside: without a subterminal series of claret-red lunules.
 * a2 Hind wing upperside: upper discal blue or green patch does not extend down to vein  P. paris
 * b2 Hind wing upperside: upper discal blue or   green   patch   larger, extends   down to vein 3 P. paris race tamilana
 * b1 Hind wing upperside with   a  prominent subterminal series of claret-red lunules P. arcturus

Bianor group
 * a. Fore wing upperside: with no trace of a sub-terminal glistening green band P. bianor
 * b. Fore wing upperside: with, a subterminal glistening green band, often more or less obsolescent anteriorly, but always indicated in the tornal region.
 * a1 Fore-wing underside: without any prominent internervular greyish-white streaks except just near tornus P. polyctor
 * b1 Fore wing underside: with very prominent internervular greyish-white streaks, short near tornus, but gradually longer towards costal margin P. polyctor race ganesa

Now the images

--Viren 13:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Unable to help ! Perhaps we should also use geography in addition to the morphology while keying out. And here is another tray full courtesy of Robert Nash. [[Image:Papparis_B8676.jpg|thumb|left]] Shyamal 16:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Missing images list
Here is the list of missing images for Indian swallowtails. Earnest request to all lepidopterans who have photos of any of these species to contribute so that we can have at least one image per butterfly at the very least. AshLin 11:16, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thie name of this list has been changed to Indian butterflies image inventory list (Papilionidae). Regards, AshLin 05:11, 1 July 2007 (UTC)