Talk:List of cakes

Suggested additions
There is no Dundee cake here, and if we are to have Eccles cake, why can we not have Chorley cake? Also, if we have tea cakes, should we also have scones? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 23:41, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Or how about adding meringue? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 23:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

And as today is All Soul's Day, I must mention the Soul cake! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 12:06, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Good to see that at least one of the above comments is now out of date, as Dundee Cake is now in the list! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:16, 7 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Donauwelle - has its own article that calls it a cake, has a picture, tastes great :) --91.19.133.13 (talk) 14:46, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I would love to see Chantilly cake here, that stuff is *delicious*. According to the rules I guess somebody'd have to make an article for it too. :/ Inhahe (talk) 15:27, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Query about Swiss Roll
It says here that Swiss Roll originated in the United Kingdom, but the article on Swiss roll says that it originated in Central Europe, possibly in Austria or Hungary. Does any one know which is correct? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 23:46, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

This website:

http://www.null-hypothesis.co.uk/science//item/top_ten_british_swiss_roll

points out that it is only in Britain where these cakes are known as "Swiss rolls" (for example, in the United States, they are known as "jelly rolls") so perhaps this article is referring to origins of the name, not the cake. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 11:17, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Queen Elizabeth Cake
I deleted the reference to Queen Elizabeth Cake because to click on that only takes one to the article on Cake. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:52, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I undid your edit before seeing this talk page post, because you didn't delete the whole line leaving some markup behind. However, it does look like this is a valid cake, and it originally had a stub article. Restoring that stub and expanding it with some references would be better than deleting it from the list.- gadfium 01:50, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Getting this in alphabetical order
This list is not in alphabetical order. If you look at where whoopie pies are, they come just before the cakes beginning with "H", whereas to get this in alphabetical order, they should go at the bottom of the list. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 11:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I can run a macro on it and do it in 3 minutes. I'll get to it soon. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:08, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Query about Battenberg
Does battenberg really have apricot jam? It certainly has marzipan around it, but I am not sure that the jam is always apricot jam. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 08:23, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

We need to put a doughnut here
Having looked at the list, I am amazed to see that it does not include doughnut.This is truly amazing  - it should go in, and some one could then point out that not all doughnuts have a hole in the middle. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 19:37, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Nor does it have a currant bun. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 10:48, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Ginger cake
There does not appear to be ginger cake - there is ginger bread, but no ginger cake. Ginger cake and gingerbread are not the same tning - ginger cake is soft and spongy, whereas gingerbread is hard. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 10:37, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Query about fruit cake
Where does the information that fruit cake is of Caribbean origin come from? This is not something that I have ever heard before. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:57, 28 June 2012 (UTC) In fact, the article on the fruit cake says that the earliest recipe for fruit cake was in ancient Rome -  which is rather a long way from the Caribbean. (talk) 14:59, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I believe that this is the cake that is often referred to as "Genoa cake" - as if it comes from Genoa. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:49, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Eclairs
There should be eclairs added. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 12:57, 18 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I guess there should be some overlap, like donuts being in cake and bread. But, eclair? That's really a pastry, right? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:30, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

I have never ever thought of eclairs as pastries, especially not the chocolate eclairs - I have always regarded them as cakes. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I've never, ever thought of eclairs as cakes. I would guess 99% of people know them only as pastries. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Are muffins cakes?
There seems some dispute about whether muffins should be here, on the grounds that some claim they are, and some claim they are not, cakes. The Wikipedia article muffins does describe muffins as a "semi-sweet cake" - but it also describes them as quick bread. Looking at the recent history of the article, muffins were deleted and then added back -  it seems as if we need a discussion on this talk page about whether muffins should be included on this list. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:41, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

If you type both cake and muffin into Google you do get a few matching entries. However, this website:

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Cake_vs_Muffin

does claim that there is a difference between muffins and cakes, claiming that cakes are sweet and sometimes iced whereas muffins are sweet bread(not cakes) and are never ever iced. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Should we add flapjacks?
Should we add Flapjack_(oat_bar) to this list? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:47, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

About the Angel Cake
Looking at the history of the article, I see that there has been dispute about whether angel cake originated in the United Kingdom or the United States. It seems that it did originate in the United Kingdom - I wonder whether the person who made the edit which said it came from the U.S.A. was thinking of the angel food cake, a cake which did originate in the United States. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:29, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Photograph of angel cake
The photograph of the angel cake does not really look like the cakes that are sold in the United Kingdom known as angel cakes - they are slightly larger, and more likely to be yellow in colour. I wonder whether this photograph should be removed and replaced with a photograph of a different cake. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 09:24, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Changing name
I hope that no one mind, but I changed the name of what was formerly down here as a French fancy to a fondant fancy -  in the United Kingdom, where I live, these cakes are more commonly called fondant fancies than French fancies (and the list does have the United Kingdom down as the origin of this cakes). ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:50, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Having said that, I have noticed that lately (as of 2013), when supermarkets start to sell these cakes, they now normally do call them "French fancies" so I am happy if some one wishes to change the name back to its original name. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 13:50, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

It seems to be the cake company Mr_Kipling that has started to call them "French fancies - perhaps it could go in this article how this well-known cakes company calls them this name. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:26, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Suggestions for two new additions
I have suggestions for two new additions to this list -  marsh mallows, and syrup cake. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

How about polka dot cakes. One of my favourite. Basically, Victoria sponge mixed with polka dots. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.48.61.201 (talk) 14:20, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Suggested website for help
I have a suggestion for a website for help with this article:

http://allrecipes.com/Recipes/Desserts/Cakes/main.aspx

although I must say, a lot of cakes in it are already on the list, such as upside-down cake or cup cake. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 13:33, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

What defines a cake?
This article doesn't include many things that are considered "cakes" in one place, and not in the other, for example here in Vietnam hamburgers are considered cakes (Banh Hamburger), and so are hotdogs, baguettes, and bread general, meanwhile in some parts of China (Fujian) spring rolls and egg rolls are considered cakes (but saying that to a viet could get them to even get physically aggressive despite calling everything else a "cake"), and in the Netherlands there is no difference between a cake and a pie, what defines a cake? even the cake article gives no clear distinction, I think that we should just create a general page for baked and fried foods, "cake" is a really ambiguous term, if you'd call a hotdog a cake in Vietnam it's normal, but to call it a cake in Germany or English is laughable, but still I'd add hamburgers and lumpias to this list as they can regionally be considered "cakes". --42.113.73.178 (talk) 00:44, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * They might be considered cakes in the country of origin, but they do not meet the inclusion criteria for this list. The very first line of the introduction to the list says, "The following is a list of types of dessert cakes by country of origin and distinctive ingredients"  Since hot dogs, hamburgers and lumpia are not desserts, they do not belong.  -- GB fan 01:27, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Leches cake?
Somebody has added cuatro leches, cinco leches, and seis leches to the entry on tres leches cakes. Only the last of these is Wikilinked to a properly referenced article. Other than teaching how to count in Spanish, the other entries add no information, and are completely unreferenced. Until/unless they are backed by a source article, I propose to delete them as useless and possibly spurious. Reify-tech (talk) 14:03, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

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Removal of nondisctinct cakes
Can we remove the caterpillar cake, erotic cake, Halloween cake, sheet cake and wedding cake? The list is described as "by country of origin and distinctive ingredients", but these cakes are only unique in their shape, decoration or purpose. Caterpillar cake is covered by roll cakes in general, sheet cakes are only unique in that they're large and rectangular and the rest are just specific novelty decorations. 173.77.108.109 (talk) 16:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)